FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Anonymous wrote:I walked it yesterday. 240 steps from my front door to entrance 3 at Marshall, but sure, bring another bus into an already congested area at 7:30am to bus these kids to McLean.

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Anonymous wrote:Lets talk Timberlane. Is there any realistic chance it stays with McLean? Or gets transitioned into Marshall? Or is it ultimately bound for Falls Church High School?

I will give you my perspective, and it's mine only.

Timber Lane has been bouncing around in the Thru proposals. It's caught in the crossfire for two reasons: (1) it's an attendance island now at Longfellow/McLean and (2) Graham Road ES currently lies within the Timber Lane boundary south of Route 29.

The BRAC slides had them both keeping Timber Lane north of Route 29 at Longfellow/McLean, except for the area off Route 29 west of Hollywood Road, which they were proposing to move to Kilmer but keep at McLean. And then they had Timber Lane south of Route 29 moving to Longfellow but not McLean. The proposals required them to move part of Shrevewood from Marshall to McLean to bridge the island.

The proposals in the tool deal with some of the obvious flaws. They don't have kids going to Kilmer and then McLean any longer, or kids going to Longfellow and then Falls Church. By any reasonable measure, those are improvements. But they now propose to move all of Timber Lane north of Route 29 to Jackson/Falls Church, except for the area west of Hollywood Road, which they'd continue to move to Kilmer, but then also move to Marshall rather than keep it at McLean.

... This alternative would not take advantage of the additional seats at Falls Church, but they aren't proposing to do anything to move kids into expanded Herndon right now, either. So it's not like they have a consistent approach to making sure they are doing something at every high school that's been expanded recently to take advantage of additional seats.

TLDR version - sure, everything is going to remain in play for months, and it's possible they could revert to keeping most of Timber Lane north of Route 29 at Longfellow/McLean or entertain requests to move to Kilmer/Marshall instead. Area west of Hollywood Road is likely to move to Shrevewood since they've boxed themselves into making other changes to Timber Lane's boundaries south of Route 29 that will increase Timber Lane's enrollment.

A PP poster wrote that 38% of Spring Hill is now the island. Now it has about 10 legal description sites as seen on the Mclean/Langley boundary process. New builds prior commercial zoning. Nobody looked at this stuff.

Decrease in membership over 20 years without significant boundary changes [Middleton and Blueberry Hill to CRES were small adds from Westbriar Island to Colvin Run]:

VDOE 2004-2005 difference from 2024-2025:
Forestville + Great Falls + Colvin Run (401) - new SFH+empty nesters+ some SINKS/DINKS
Spring Hill Elementary 207 - projected at 105% capacity CIPSY29-30

We attempted to reconcile Thru slides to current :
Falls Church: slides 0 + tool 190=190 is larger than what appears to be Timber Lane Island
Mclean: slides -142 + tool - 205 = diff -63 extra out of Mclean is Timber Lane Island?

Somebody needs to take a video of the walk to Marshall from Dominion Way to George C Marshall Drive. A bus to Mclean HS? No way. Another video to display is the walk to Westgate. Any other gems needed?

240 steps to Marshall entrance 3. Thank you! I am absolutely shocked at this incompetency. To be blunt this thng is at the point where the media should be contacted. Film crew out for the walk. Quick hop to Westgate and it would take the pros 30 minutes. But imagine the viewer count.

I’m shocked the Westgate proposal survived the post-BRAC draft. The Marshall one I can understand since they obviously slapped that part together very quickly after the decision was made to run the scenarios with Timber Lane at Falls Church.

I doubt Thru paid any attention to the fact that Frisch’s school in Dunn Loring is going to reshuffle the boundaries for many of the Marshall ES feeders in a few years. Best to leave that part of Lemon Road at Marshall and not worry about a split feeder for a few more years when it’s probably going to get moved later anyway.

I like my news film crew out to film the walks. Maybe a nice stop at Falls Church HS to preview the new capacity that was omitted for BRAC and a final at the Mclean trailer park.

What do you actually want other than to embarrass FCPS staff and Thru for some of their least sensible proposals?

McLean has 4 trailers now, not 21 like it had before they moved the Colvin Run kids to Langley and put in the modular.

A modular is like a super charged trailer- it’s not like the need for more space disappeared.

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Anonymous wrote:I do think this process is necessary. We almost certainly won’t be affected (other than my kids losing friends,) but we went through a recent smaller boundary thing and I was still on board even if it meant a non-preferred solution for us.

The county isn’t doing everything well, but they need to be able adjust things to improve the overall logistics of the county.

No. THIS process is not necessary. From where I sit, this is not improving things at all.

I still don't see where they are addressing the immediate and serious need for Coates, and maybe others, that need attention now.

Coates and park lawn boundary changes were delayed for the comprehensive boundary review. They delayed making changes to address actual needs at those schools to allow themselves to make unnecessary changes.

You can’t make this stuff up. Rank incompetence.

That is looking at something strategically and for a longer term rather than just fixing a pocket of need.

Except they are only using old enrollment numbers for September 2024, and are NOT looking at enrollment of the 5th through 10th graders, who will be the middle and high school students in fall 2026 when rezoning is implemented.

The only membership numbers that THRU should be using to determine if schools are too overcrowded over the next 5 year cycle (fall 2026- spring 2031) are the enrollment numbers for current 1st-6th grade for middle school rezoning, and the current 5th grade-10th grade rezoning for high school.

Any enrollment numbers that include current juniors and seniors are completely flawed, as those large classes will be long gone when rezoning is implemented. Thru should only use the membersip numbers for grades below class of 2026.

Not only are they using old enrollment numbers, they fail to recognize the coming, massive impact of all the RIFs, the ripple-effect layoffs in the private sector in FFX, and the number of families either self-deporting outside the U.S. or moving to other parts of the U.S. they consider “safer” from ICE.

This whole process needs to be tabled for at least the 2025/26 school year.

When FCPS builds up a head of steam, they never back down. They changed school boundaries during Covid, when they were so uncertain as to the impact of Covid on school enrollments that they didn't bother including five-year projections in the 2022-26 CIP published in December 2020. People asked them to pause the changes until they had a better handle on the post-Covid enrollments and were ignored.

They have already scaled back what they hope to accomplish with these changes, but don't expect them to table them entirely.

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Anonymous wrote:Ricardy Anderson must be having a meltdown right now.

Ricardy has asked for a boundary study at Glasgow MS for years. It's not seriously overcrowded based on program capacity, but it's big and chaotic, and parents have been asking to reduce the number of students there for years. Ricardy keeps requesting a boundary study, and her colleagues keep denying her requests and saying it will be taken care of as part of the comprehensive boundary review.

Thru's proposals would not move anyone out of Glasgow, and 2 of the 3 scenarios would add another 14 kids to the school, pushing it up to 103%. Nearby Holmes and Poe would still have extra capacity under Thru's scenarios, but moving kids out of Glasgow to those schools likely would create the type of split feeder to high schools that Thru has prioritized eliminating.

She can't be happy.

I started poking around the Mason District recommendations and they’re a mess! There’s a recommendation to move an SPA from Weyanoke across I-395 to Bren Mark Park. A bus would have to meander through the City of Alexandria to get these kids to school.

This has to be a mistake, because that same SPA is later sent to Edison HS, but it’s baked into all of their capacity projections and would likely domino their elementary school tweaks. Weyanoke ES and Columbia ES are the key to their Parklawn solution, and it only worked because they magically got rid of 100 kids through a misplaced SPA.

On its own FCPS redistricted the Edsall Park neighborhood to Edison years ago, and those kids had to cross both 395 and 495 to get to Edison. I don't think it's insane if a different SPA has to cross 395 to get to Bren Mar Park (Thru proposes to move the Edsall Park area to North Springfield ES). They could go through the City of Alexandria but they wouldn't have to. They could go down Chowan Avenue to Cherokee Avenue and then get on Edsall Road.

The weird thing is that that area is coded in the HS map as if it's going to Edison, which can't have been the intent. It's at Weyanoke/Holmes/Annandale now, and they proposed to move Bren Mar Park back to Annandale, so they can't have intended this one SPA to go to Edison. If it's miscoded, it seems like it could result in under-projecting the number of kids at Annandale under Thru's proposals and over-projecting the number of kids at Edison.

It’s what Edison is at 112% capacity for their first scenario. If you add the 100 kids back to Annandale, it’s at 98% instead of 95%. Still, I think it’s a mistake. It would make sense to keep some of the area currently zoned to Bren Mar Park off Edsall Rd at Bren Mar Park than to pick up that Lincolnia Park SPA. Their current recommendation is creating an attendance island. The boundary is only connected by a point, and that intersection is I-395. Not even an interchange. Just I-395.

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Anonymous wrote:I walked it yesterday. 240 steps from my front door to entrance 3 at Marshall, but sure, bring another bus into an already congested area at 7:30am to bus these kids to McLean.

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Anonymous wrote:Lets talk Timberlane. Is there any realistic chance it stays with McLean? Or gets transitioned into Marshall? Or is it ultimately bound for Falls Church High School?

I will give you my perspective, and it's mine only.

Timber Lane has been bouncing around in the Thru proposals. It's caught in the crossfire for two reasons: (1) it's an attendance island now at Longfellow/McLean and (2) Graham Road ES currently lies within the Timber Lane boundary south of Route 29.

The BRAC slides had them both keeping Timber Lane north of Route 29 at Longfellow/McLean, except for the area off Route 29 west of Hollywood Road, which they were proposing to move to Kilmer but keep at McLean. And then they had Timber Lane south of Route 29 moving to Longfellow but not McLean. The proposals required them to move part of Shrevewood from Marshall to McLean to bridge the island.

The proposals in the tool deal with some of the obvious flaws. They don't have kids going to Kilmer and then McLean any longer, or kids going to Longfellow and then Falls Church. By any reasonable measure, those are improvements. But they now propose to move all of Timber Lane north of Route 29 to Jackson/Falls Church, except for the area west of Hollywood Road, which they'd continue to move to Kilmer, but then also move to Marshall rather than keep it at McLean.

... This alternative would not take advantage of the additional seats at Falls Church, but they aren't proposing to do anything to move kids into expanded Herndon right now, either. So it's not like they have a consistent approach to making sure they are doing something at every high school that's been expanded recently to take advantage of additional seats.

TLDR version - sure, everything is going to remain in play for months, and it's possible they could revert to keeping most of Timber Lane north of Route 29 at Longfellow/McLean or entertain requests to move to Kilmer/Marshall instead. Area west of Hollywood Road is likely to move to Shrevewood since they've boxed themselves into making other changes to Timber Lane's boundaries south of Route 29 that will increase Timber Lane's enrollment.

A PP poster wrote that 38% of Spring Hill is now the island. Now it has about 10 legal description sites as seen on the Mclean/Langley boundary process. New builds prior commercial zoning. Nobody looked at this stuff.

Decrease in membership over 20 years without significant boundary changes [Middleton and Blueberry Hill to CRES were small adds from Westbriar Island to Colvin Run]:

VDOE 2004-2005 difference from 2024-2025:
Forestville + Great Falls + Colvin Run (401) - new SFH+empty nesters+ some SINKS/DINKS
Spring Hill Elementary 207 - projected at 105% capacity CIPSY29-30

We attempted to reconcile Thru slides to current :
Falls Church: slides 0 + tool 190=190 is larger than what appears to be Timber Lane Island
Mclean: slides -142 + tool - 205 = diff -63 extra out of Mclean is Timber Lane Island?

Somebody needs to take a video of the walk to Marshall from Dominion Way to George C Marshall Drive. A bus to Mclean HS? No way. Another video to display is the walk to Westgate. Any other gems needed?

240 steps to Marshall entrance 3. Thank you! I am absolutely shocked at this incompetency. To be blunt this thng is at the point where the media should be contacted. Film crew out for the walk. Quick hop to Westgate and it would take the pros 30 minutes. But imagine the viewer count.

I’m shocked the Westgate proposal survived the post-BRAC draft. The Marshall one I can understand since they obviously slapped that part together very quickly after the decision was made to run the scenarios with Timber Lane at Falls Church.

I doubt Thru paid any attention to the fact that Frisch’s school in Dunn Loring is going to reshuffle the boundaries for many of the Marshall ES feeders in a few years. Best to leave that part of Lemon Road at Marshall and not worry about a split feeder for a few more years when it’s probably going to get moved later anyway.

I like my news film crew out to film the walks. Maybe a nice stop at Falls Church HS to preview the new capacity that was omitted for BRAC and a final at the Mclean trailer park.

What do you actually want other than to embarrass FCPS staff and Thru for some of their least sensible proposals?

McLean has 4 trailers now, not 21 like it had before they moved the Colvin Run kids to Langley and put in the modular.

A modular is like a super charged trailer- it’s not like the need for more space disappeared.

No, but most people view modulars more favorably than trailers. Still don't know what you want out of this process, only that you enjoy pointing out Thru's least sensible proposals.

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Anonymous wrote:Ricardy Anderson must be having a meltdown right now.

Ricardy has asked for a boundary study at Glasgow MS for years. It's not seriously overcrowded based on program capacity, but it's big and chaotic, and parents have been asking to reduce the number of students there for years. Ricardy keeps requesting a boundary study, and her colleagues keep denying her requests and saying it will be taken care of as part of the comprehensive boundary review.

Thru's proposals would not move anyone out of Glasgow, and 2 of the 3 scenarios would add another 14 kids to the school, pushing it up to 103%. Nearby Holmes and Poe would still have extra capacity under Thru's scenarios, but moving kids out of Glasgow to those schools likely would create the type of split feeder to high schools that Thru has prioritized eliminating.

She can't be happy.

I started poking around the Mason District recommendations and they’re a mess! There’s a recommendation to move an SPA from Weyanoke across I-395 to Bren Mark Park. A bus would have to meander through the City of Alexandria to get these kids to school.

This has to be a mistake, because that same SPA is later sent to Edison HS, but it’s baked into all of their capacity projections and would likely domino their elementary school tweaks. Weyanoke ES and Columbia ES are the key to their Parklawn solution, and it only worked because they magically got rid of 100 kids through a misplaced SPA.

On its own FCPS redistricted the Edsall Park neighborhood to Edison years ago, and those kids had to cross both 395 and 495 to get to Edison. I don't think it's insane if a different SPA has to cross 395 to get to Bren Mar Park (Thru proposes to move the Edsall Park area to North Springfield ES). They could go through the City of Alexandria but they wouldn't have to. They could go down Chowan Avenue to Cherokee Avenue and then get on Edsall Road.

The weird thing is that that area is coded in the HS map as if it's going to Edison, which can't have been the intent. It's at Weyanoke/Holmes/Annandale now, and they proposed to move Bren Mar Park back to Annandale, so they can't have intended this one SPA to go to Edison. If it's miscoded, it seems like it could result in under-projecting the number of kids at Annandale under Thru's proposals and over-projecting the number of kids at Edison.

It’s what Edison is at 112% capacity for their first scenario. If you add the 100 kids back to Annandale, it’s at 98% instead of 95%. Still, I think it’s a mistake. It would make sense to keep some of the area currently zoned to Bren Mar Park off Edsall Rd at Bren Mar Park than to pick up that Lincolnia Park SPA. Their current recommendation is creating an attendance island. The boundary is only connected by a point, and that intersection is I-395. Not even an interchange. Just I-395.

Or, FCPS could just mive the popular autoshop academy from Edison to Lewis, solving 2 problems with one program move that would not require rezoning a single student

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Anonymous wrote:Ricardy Anderson must be having a meltdown right now.

Ricardy has asked for a boundary study at Glasgow MS for years. It's not seriously overcrowded based on program capacity, but it's big and chaotic, and parents have been asking to reduce the number of students there for years. Ricardy keeps requesting a boundary study, and her colleagues keep denying her requests and saying it will be taken care of as part of the comprehensive boundary review.

Thru's proposals would not move anyone out of Glasgow, and 2 of the 3 scenarios would add another 14 kids to the school, pushing it up to 103%. Nearby Holmes and Poe would still have extra capacity under Thru's scenarios, but moving kids out of Glasgow to those schools likely would create the type of split feeder to high schools that Thru has prioritized eliminating.

She can't be happy.

I started poking around the Mason District recommendations and they’re a mess! There’s a recommendation to move an SPA from Weyanoke across I-395 to Bren Mark Park. A bus would have to meander through the City of Alexandria to get these kids to school.

This has to be a mistake, because that same SPA is later sent to Edison HS, but it’s baked into all of their capacity projections and would likely domino their elementary school tweaks. Weyanoke ES and Columbia ES are the key to their Parklawn solution, and it only worked because they magically got rid of 100 kids through a misplaced SPA.

On its own FCPS redistricted the Edsall Park neighborhood to Edison years ago, and those kids had to cross both 395 and 495 to get to Edison. I don't think it's insane if a different SPA has to cross 395 to get to Bren Mar Park (Thru proposes to move the Edsall Park area to North Springfield ES). They could go through the City of Alexandria but they wouldn't have to. They could go down Chowan Avenue to Cherokee Avenue and then get on Edsall Road.

The weird thing is that that area is coded in the HS map as if it's going to Edison, which can't have been the intent. It's at Weyanoke/Holmes/Annandale now, and they proposed to move Bren Mar Park back to Annandale, so they can't have intended this one SPA to go to Edison. If it's miscoded, it seems like it could result in under-projecting the number of kids at Annandale under Thru's proposals and over-projecting the number of kids at Edison.

It’s what Edison is at 112% capacity for their first scenario. If you add the 100 kids back to Annandale, it’s at 98% instead of 95%. Still, I think it’s a mistake. It would make sense to keep some of the area currently zoned to Bren Mar Park off Edsall Rd at Bren Mar Park than to pick up that Lincolnia Park SPA. Their current recommendation is creating an attendance island. The boundary is only connected by a point, and that intersection is I-395. Not even an interchange. Just I-395.

I think it's 103 kids being overcounted at Edison and undercounted at Annandale due to the miscoding. I think Scenario #1 for Edison should be 2282 students or 107% (current enrollment) and Scenarios ## 2 and 3 would put Edison at 1938 students or 91%. In Annandale's case, Scenario #1 should be 2126 or 86% (current enrollment) and Scenarios ## 2 and 3 would put Annandale at 2440 students or 99%.

I agree this Lincolnia Park SPA is awkward. But they can't just kick it back to Weyanoke without making other changes to the boundaries of Weyanoke and other schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Ricardy Anderson must be having a meltdown right now.

Ricardy has asked for a boundary study at Glasgow MS for years. It's not seriously overcrowded based on program capacity, but it's big and chaotic, and parents have been asking to reduce the number of students there for years. Ricardy keeps requesting a boundary study, and her colleagues keep denying her requests and saying it will be taken care of as part of the comprehensive boundary review.

Thru's proposals would not move anyone out of Glasgow, and 2 of the 3 scenarios would add another 14 kids to the school, pushing it up to 103%. Nearby Holmes and Poe would still have extra capacity under Thru's scenarios, but moving kids out of Glasgow to those schools likely would create the type of split feeder to high schools that Thru has prioritized eliminating.

She can't be happy.

I started poking around the Mason District recommendations and they’re a mess! There’s a recommendation to move an SPA from Weyanoke across I-395 to Bren Mark Park. A bus would have to meander through the City of Alexandria to get these kids to school.

This has to be a mistake, because that same SPA is later sent to Edison HS, but it’s baked into all of their capacity projections and would likely domino their elementary school tweaks. Weyanoke ES and Columbia ES are the key to their Parklawn solution, and it only worked because they magically got rid of 100 kids through a misplaced SPA.

On its own FCPS redistricted the Edsall Park neighborhood to Edison years ago, and those kids had to cross both 395 and 495 to get to Edison. I don't think it's insane if a different SPA has to cross 395 to get to Bren Mar Park (Thru proposes to move the Edsall Park area to North Springfield ES). They could go through the City of Alexandria but they wouldn't have to. They could go down Chowan Avenue to Cherokee Avenue and then get on Edsall Road.

The weird thing is that that area is coded in the HS map as if it's going to Edison, which can't have been the intent. It's at Weyanoke/Holmes/Annandale now, and they proposed to move Bren Mar Park back to Annandale, so they can't have intended this one SPA to go to Edison. If it's miscoded, it seems like it could result in under-projecting the number of kids at Annandale under Thru's proposals and over-projecting the number of kids at Edison.

It’s what Edison is at 112% capacity for their first scenario. If you add the 100 kids back to Annandale, it’s at 98% instead of 95%. Still, I think it’s a mistake. It would make sense to keep some of the area currently zoned to Bren Mar Park off Edsall Rd at Bren Mar Park than to pick up that Lincolnia Park SPA. Their current recommendation is creating an attendance island. The boundary is only connected by a point, and that intersection is I-395. Not even an interchange. Just I-395.

I think it's 103 kids being overcounted at Edison and undercounted at Annandale due to the miscoding. I think Scenario #1 for Edison should be 2282 students or 107% (current enrollment) and Scenarios ## 2 and 3 would put Edison at 1938 students or 91%. In Annandale's case, Scenario #1 should be 2126 or 86% (current enrollment) and Scenarios ## 2 and 3 would put Annandale at 2440 students or 99%.

I agree this Lincolnia Park SPA is awkward. But they can't just kick it back to Weyanoke without making other changes to the boundaries of Weyanoke and other schools.

Where do you find the SPA"s?

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Anonymous wrote:Ricardy Anderson must be having a meltdown right now.

Ricardy has asked for a boundary study at Glasgow MS for years. It's not seriously overcrowded based on program capacity, but it's big and chaotic, and parents have been asking to reduce the number of students there for years. Ricardy keeps requesting a boundary study, and her colleagues keep denying her requests and saying it will be taken care of as part of the comprehensive boundary review.

Thru's proposals would not move anyone out of Glasgow, and 2 of the 3 scenarios would add another 14 kids to the school, pushing it up to 103%. Nearby Holmes and Poe would still have extra capacity under Thru's scenarios, but moving kids out of Glasgow to those schools likely would create the type of split feeder to high schools that Thru has prioritized eliminating.

She can't be happy.

I started poking around the Mason District recommendations and they’re a mess! There’s a recommendation to move an SPA from Weyanoke across I-395 to Bren Mark Park. A bus would have to meander through the City of Alexandria to get these kids to school.

This has to be a mistake, because that same SPA is later sent to Edison HS, but it’s baked into all of their capacity projections and would likely domino their elementary school tweaks. Weyanoke ES and Columbia ES are the key to their Parklawn solution, and it only worked because they magically got rid of 100 kids through a misplaced SPA.

On its own FCPS redistricted the Edsall Park neighborhood to Edison years ago, and those kids had to cross both 395 and 495 to get to Edison. I don't think it's insane if a different SPA has to cross 395 to get to Bren Mar Park (Thru proposes to move the Edsall Park area to North Springfield ES). They could go through the City of Alexandria but they wouldn't have to. They could go down Chowan Avenue to Cherokee Avenue and then get on Edsall Road.

The weird thing is that that area is coded in the HS map as if it's going to Edison, which can't have been the intent. It's at Weyanoke/Holmes/Annandale now, and they proposed to move Bren Mar Park back to Annandale, so they can't have intended this one SPA to go to Edison. If it's miscoded, it seems like it could result in under-projecting the number of kids at Annandale under Thru's proposals and over-projecting the number of kids at Edison.

It’s what Edison is at 112% capacity for their first scenario. If you add the 100 kids back to Annandale, it’s at 98% instead of 95%. Still, I think it’s a mistake. It would make sense to keep some of the area currently zoned to Bren Mar Park off Edsall Rd at Bren Mar Park than to pick up that Lincolnia Park SPA. Their current recommendation is creating an attendance island. The boundary is only connected by a point, and that intersection is I-395. Not even an interchange. Just I-395.

I think it's 103 kids being overcounted at Edison and undercounted at Annandale due to the miscoding. I think Scenario #1 for Edison should be 2282 students or 107% (current enrollment) and Scenarios ## 2 and 3 would put Edison at 1938 students or 91%. In Annandale's case, Scenario #1 should be 2126 or 86% (current enrollment) and Scenarios ## 2 and 3 would put Annandale at 2440 students or 99%.

I agree this Lincolnia Park SPA is awkward. But they can't just kick it back to Weyanoke without making other changes to the boundaries of Weyanoke and other schools.

Where do you find the SPA"s?

In general, you can't find the SPAs (School Planning Areas), as FCPS doesn't make them generally available (and hasn't made them available to the BRAC members in connection with the county-wide review).

FCPS has released maps in connection with some smaller boundary studies, including the Parklawn ES study in the Justice pyramid. The maps released in connection with the Parklawn study indicate that the particular area near Lincolnia Park that Thru is proposing to reassigning from Weyanoke ES to Bren Mar Park ES is SPA 7219.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/Parklawn-Area-Boundary-Maps.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:Ricardy Anderson must be having a meltdown right now.

Ricardy has asked for a boundary study at Glasgow MS for years. It's not seriously overcrowded based on program capacity, but it's big and chaotic, and parents have been asking to reduce the number of students there for years. Ricardy keeps requesting a boundary study, and her colleagues keep denying her requests and saying it will be taken care of as part of the comprehensive boundary review.

Thru's proposals would not move anyone out of Glasgow, and 2 of the 3 scenarios would add another 14 kids to the school, pushing it up to 103%. Nearby Holmes and Poe would still have extra capacity under Thru's scenarios, but moving kids out of Glasgow to those schools likely would create the type of split feeder to high schools that Thru has prioritized eliminating.

She can't be happy.

I started poking around the Mason District recommendations and they’re a mess! There’s a recommendation to move an SPA from Weyanoke across I-395 to Bren Mark Park. A bus would have to meander through the City of Alexandria to get these kids to school.

This has to be a mistake, because that same SPA is later sent to Edison HS, but it’s baked into all of their capacity projections and would likely domino their elementary school tweaks. Weyanoke ES and Columbia ES are the key to their Parklawn solution, and it only worked because they magically got rid of 100 kids through a misplaced SPA.

I was looking at the Mason Diestrict recommendations as well and saw all these proposed ES adjustments. Thru is proposing some big changes at some of those schools. For example, I was looking at Sleepy Hollow ES and thought at first that they were going to make it the most affluent feeder to Justice HS by reassigning a bunch of garden apartments near Seven Corners to Bailey's ES and Glen Forest ES and moving more of Lake Barcroft to Sleepy Hollow. But the small area north of Courtland Park that would move from Bailey's to Sleepy Hollow is part of Culmore, and would account for roughly 70% of Sleepy Hollow's adjusted enrollment under all three of Thru's proposals. When you have access to the SPA data, you can see how some large areas of single-family houses have relatively few students, whereas some garden apartment complexes can have hundreds of kids, and how some "tweaks" can result in major changes to a school's enrollment and demographics.

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Anonymous wrote:Ricardy Anderson must be having a meltdown right now.

Ricardy has asked for a boundary study at Glasgow MS for years. It's not seriously overcrowded based on program capacity, but it's big and chaotic, and parents have been asking to reduce the number of students there for years. Ricardy keeps requesting a boundary study, and her colleagues keep denying her requests and saying it will be taken care of as part of the comprehensive boundary review.

Thru's proposals would not move anyone out of Glasgow, and 2 of the 3 scenarios would add another 14 kids to the school, pushing it up to 103%. Nearby Holmes and Poe would still have extra capacity under Thru's scenarios, but moving kids out of Glasgow to those schools likely would create the type of split feeder to high schools that Thru has prioritized eliminating.

She can't be happy.

I started poking around the Mason District recommendations and they’re a mess! There’s a recommendation to move an SPA from Weyanoke across I-395 to Bren Mark Park. A bus would have to meander through the City of Alexandria to get these kids to school.

This has to be a mistake, because that same SPA is later sent to Edison HS, but it’s baked into all of their capacity projections and would likely domino their elementary school tweaks. Weyanoke ES and Columbia ES are the key to their Parklawn solution, and it only worked because they magically got rid of 100 kids through a misplaced SPA.

I was looking at the Mason Diestrict recommendations as well and saw all these proposed ES adjustments. Thru is proposing some big changes at some of those schools. For example, I was looking at Sleepy Hollow ES and thought at first that they were going to make it the most affluent feeder to Justice HS by reassigning a bunch of garden apartments near Seven Corners to Bailey's ES and Glen Forest ES and moving more of Lake Barcroft to Sleepy Hollow. But the small area north of Courtland Park that would move from Bailey's to Sleepy Hollow is part of Culmore, and would account for roughly 70% of Sleepy Hollow's adjusted enrollment under all three of Thru's proposals. When you have access to the SPA data, you can see how some large areas of single-family houses have relatively few students, whereas some garden apartment complexes can have hundreds of kids, and how some "tweaks" can result in major changes to a school's enrollment and demographics.

The shifts in demographics was a huge point of contention during the recent elementary school realignment. Imagine going through all that just to have another round of sweeping changes blindly pushed through.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm getting lost in all these different discussions. Are there any communities who truly think their school is overcrowded and boundaries should be changed or are unhappy with a split feeder/attendance island and like the idea of realigning? Any at all?

Emerald Chase parent here. We were actually hoping for changes. We’re not pleased with how FCPS is doing any of this process, but still hoping they’ll fix our double split feeder appropriately. Right now our kids leave all their friends and go to middle school with just our neighborhood, then leave all their friends and go to a really far away high school down 28 (Westfield). This is our chance to get in an actual pyramid so our kids can have stable friend relationships.

You are not even close to the only neighborhood in this situation, Emerald Chase parent. Look at Crossfield - the exact same situation but you don't see Franklin Farm going and causing the kind of drama that you are.

They should! Every neighborhood with concerns should utilize the tools FCPS has provided for us to use to be heard. All meetings are open to everyone and are not restricted by region, especially with the new virtual option.

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Top comment from tonight's meeting.

Revisit Policy 8130. It's so clear after attending the first three community meetings that no one wants this, it's creating more problems than it solves and it's an inequitable process. Address issues on a case-by-case basis and get over the idea of making the lines pretty.

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And shocked to read in comments that there is one restroom for the 400 students outside the building!

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Emerald chase is not in fact taking over the comments!

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Anonymous wrote:Emerald chase is not in fact taking over the comments!

Yeah, the blowback after the Friday meeting clearly had an impact. That was so rude. I'm glad they stopped. No one needs to be doing that to other neighborhoods at these meetings.