South Arlington and North Arlington Schools

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Anonymous wrote:Living options at $500k in north arlington? Not with 2 kids.

Seriously. That poster needs to stfu. They don't have a clue... And yes - they are the reason the older generation hates all of us.

It's called a small apartment. You can tell me to stfu, but it's exactly what we did on a modest budget. I'm a parent with kids in aps, two of them, in fact. We made huge housing compromises. I know exactly what I'm talking about. You may not consider that a reasonable compromise or option and that's your choice. Not sure why the older generation would hate me for doing that.

Everyone else hates you because you're a sanctimonious ass.

Speak for yourself. PP is totally right that you can make sacrifices on living space to get a better school. Why so much hate for her because she did -- is she wrecking your story that it's not possible?

Because people have made sacrifices to live even in south Arlington. It's shockingly out of touch and entitled to not realize that. That includes all of the single parents, and hard working immigrants that are desperately trying to make a better life for their kids. I'm sure there is a very small percentage of people living south of 50 , around the pike, that opted for new construction and square footage. it's likely smaller than the people you see on these threads gloating over "'buying into"' science focus and now discovery.
Parents make the best choice they can wih the resources they've got. This thread has basically turned into a forum about APS and CB policy. The county as a whole has taken a bit of a laissez faire approach to planning in regards to affordable housing, density, and schools. It's a good thing that there are more well educated, middle class voices rising up from other parts of the county. It's necessary to point out disparities in allotted resources - from all sides. Certainly when you concentrate poverty and English language learners, you are creating an even more expensive school to educate. These decisions ( or lack there of) effect us all.
It's wonderful that pp had the means to live in north Arlington. It's terribly out of touch to assume with just a bit of adjustment everyone else could do the same. It's astounding to hear a north Arlington apt referred to as a sacrifice. I would have loved to afford that. We rented an apt in south arl...
Imagining you made a superior real estate decision doesn't add to this conversation. It's a distraction. There is a forum for that. Please take those remarks there.

Wow. It looks like someone struck a nerve. I think the post about making compromises assumed the ability to own a home in the $500k range. I don't think that poster suggested that someone without some means could do it, or was so "out of touch" to think that everyone can just move to N. Arlington. She's probably assuming that someone who has the time and inclination to have this fight on DCUM probably falls into the category of someone with at least some resources. And if she's wrong then it's just another person wrong on the internet. And that's ok. There are a lot of posters who complain that they bought a nice house in a nice neighborhood in S. Arlington, only to be surprised that the schools don't measure up to their N. Arlington counterparts. Presumably that was her audience.

Well, I think a lot of posters on here have been talking about those children in our community who would stand to benefit most from socioeconomically integrated schools and neighborhoods, and those are not children of families who can afford to buy a home in the $500,000 range. Also, you can't get into my neighborhood here in the South for that amount unless you're looking at a total tear down, not even a town home in that range.

Lastly, I am of the opinion that public education should be equitable. You should not be able to buy your child's way into a special program through your ability to afford a certain neighborhood, nor should any child be relegated to school that struggles to meet the minimum standards and struggles to raise PTA funds to provide enrichment activities and field trips, because your family cannot. If you want the ability to "buy" a better school, you have the freedom to do so at a private school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^^ follow the thread. People bought in nice south Arlington neighborhoods, with nice schools, that are now no longer nice. That isn't the same as not doing due diligence, and kinda gross to be a little pleased about it, as it appears in some of the above posts.

Those neighborhoods are still really nice, if not getting nicer. It's just that people are concerned about concentrating affordable housing, and too many children in one place without extra resources.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ follow the thread. People bought in nice south Arlington neighborhoods, with nice schools, that are now no longer nice. That isn't the same as not doing due diligence, and kinda gross to be a little pleased about it, as it appears in some of the above posts.

Those neighborhoods are still really nice, if not getting nicer. It's just that people are concerned about concentrating affordable housing, and too many children in one place without extra resources.

Yeah- that wasn't clear. The neighborhoods are lovely. The schools are getting overwhelmed.

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Anonymous wrote:Living options at $500k in north arlington? Not with 2 kids.

Seriously. That poster needs to stfu. They don't have a clue... And yes - they are the reason the older generation hates all of us.

It's called a small apartment. You can tell me to stfu, but it's exactly what we did on a modest budget. I'm a parent with kids in aps, two of them, in fact. We made huge housing compromises. I know exactly what I'm talking about. You may not consider that a reasonable compromise or option and that's your choice. Not sure why the older generation would hate me for doing that.

Everyone else hates you because you're a sanctimonious ass.

Speak for yourself. PP is totally right that you can make sacrifices on living space to get a better school. Why so much hate for her because she did -- is she wrecking your story that it's not possible?

Because people have made sacrifices to live even in south Arlington. It's shockingly out of touch and entitled to not realize that. That includes all of the single parents, and hard working immigrants that are desperately trying to make a better life for their kids. I'm sure there is a very small percentage of people living south of 50 , around the pike, that opted for new construction and square footage. it's likely smaller than the people you see on these threads gloating over "'buying into"' science focus and now discovery.
Parents make the best choice they can wih the resources they've got. This thread has basically turned into a forum about APS and CB policy. The county as a whole has taken a bit of a laissez faire approach to planning in regards to affordable housing, density, and schools. It's a good thing that there are more well educated, middle class voices rising up from other parts of the county. It's necessary to point out disparities in allotted resources - from all sides. Certainly when you concentrate poverty and English language learners, you are creating an even more expensive school to educate. These decisions ( or lack there of) effect us all.
It's wonderful that pp had the means to live in north Arlington. It's terribly out of touch to assume with just a bit of adjustment everyone else could do the same. It's astounding to hear a north Arlington apt referred to as a sacrifice. I would have loved to afford that. We rented an apt in south arl...
Imagining you made a superior real estate decision doesn't add to this conversation. It's a distraction. There is a forum for that. Please take those remarks there.

Wow. It looks like someone struck a nerve. I think the post about making compromises assumed the ability to own a home in the $500k range. I don't think that poster suggested that someone without some means could do it, or was so "out of touch" to think that everyone can just move to N. Arlington. She's probably assuming that someone who has the time and inclination to have this fight on DCUM probably falls into the category of someone with at least some resources. And if she's wrong then it's just another person wrong on the internet. And that's ok. There are a lot of posters who complain that they bought a nice house in a nice neighborhood in S. Arlington, only to be surprised that the schools don't measure up to their N. Arlington counterparts. Presumably that was her audience.

Well, I think a lot of posters on here have been talking about those children in our community who would stand to benefit most from socioeconomically integrated schools and neighborhoods, and those are not children of families who can afford to buy a home in the $500,000 range. Also, you can't get into my neighborhood here in the South for that amount unless you're looking at a total tear down, not even a town home in that range.

Lastly, I am of the opinion that public education should be equitable. You should not be able to buy your child's way into a special program through your ability to afford a certain neighborhood, nor should any child be relegated to school that struggles to meet the minimum standards and struggles to raise PTA funds to provide enrichment activities and field trips, because your family cannot. If you want the ability to "buy" a better school, you have the freedom to do so at a private school.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Lastly, I am of the opinion that public education should be equitable. You should not be able to buy your child's way into a special program through your ability to afford a certain neighborhood, nor should any child be relegated to school that struggles to meet the minimum standards and struggles to raise PTA funds to provide enrichment activities and field trips, because your family cannot. If you want the ability to "buy" a better school, you have the freedom to do so at a private school.

Most people I know feel that way. Why doesn't the board understand this? Is this b/c the SB members are politicians?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ follow the thread. People bought in nice south Arlington neighborhoods, with nice schools, that are now no longer nice. That isn't the same as not doing due diligence, and kinda gross to be a little pleased about it, as it appears in some of the above posts.

Those neighborhoods are still really nice, if not getting nicer. It's just that people are concerned about concentrating affordable housing, and too many children in one place without extra resources.

That's why McMenamin is appealing to so many democrats. Mike's support for mixed income housing should be desired by residents in all of Arlington. 100% affordable may make the non profit developers money, but it concentrates poverty and segregates our schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Living options at $500k in north arlington? Not with 2 kids.

Seriously. That poster needs to stfu. They don't have a clue... And yes - they are the reason the older generation hates all of us.

It's called a small apartment. You can tell me to stfu, but it's exactly what we did on a modest budget. I'm a parent with kids in aps, two of them, in fact. We made huge housing compromises. I know exactly what I'm talking about. You may not consider that a reasonable compromise or option and that's your choice. Not sure why the older generation would hate me for doing that.

People who have lived here happily for decades get offended when new people moving in consider it a sacrifice.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Living options at $500k in north arlington? Not with 2 kids.

Seriously. That poster needs to stfu. They don't have a clue... And yes - they are the reason the older generation hates all of us.

It's called a small apartment. You can tell me to stfu, but it's exactly what we did on a modest budget. I'm a parent with kids in aps, two of them, in fact. We made huge housing compromises. I know exactly what I'm talking about. You may not consider that a reasonable compromise or option and that's your choice. Not sure why the older generation would hate me for doing that.

Everyone else hates you because you're a sanctimonious ass.

Speak for yourself. PP is totally right that you can make sacrifices on living space to get a better school. Why so much hate for her because she did -- is she wrecking your story that it's not possible?

Because people have made sacrifices to live even in south Arlington. It's shockingly out of touch and entitled to not realize that. That includes all of the single parents, and hard working immigrants that are desperately trying to make a better life for their kids. I'm sure there is a very small percentage of people living south of 50 , around the pike, that opted for new construction and square footage. it's likely smaller than the people you see on these threads gloating over "'buying into"' science focus and now discovery.
Parents make the best choice they can wih the resources they've got. This thread has basically turned into a forum about APS and CB policy. The county as a whole has taken a bit of a laissez faire approach to planning in regards to affordable housing, density, and schools. It's a good thing that there are more well educated, middle class voices rising up from other parts of the county. It's necessary to point out disparities in allotted resources - from all sides. Certainly when you concentrate poverty and English language learners, you are creating an even more expensive school to educate. These decisions ( or lack there of) effect us all.
It's wonderful that pp had the means to live in north Arlington. It's terribly out of touch to assume with just a bit of adjustment everyone else could do the same. It's astounding to hear a north Arlington apt referred to as a sacrifice. I would have loved to afford that. We rented an apt in south arl...
Imagining you made a superior real estate decision doesn't add to this conversation. It's a distraction. There is a forum for that. Please take those remarks there.

Wow. It looks like someone struck a nerve. I think the post about making compromises assumed the ability to own a home in the $500k range. I don't think that poster suggested that someone without some means could do it, or was so "out of touch" to think that everyone can just move to N. Arlington. She's probably assuming that someone who has the time and inclination to have this fight on DCUM probably falls into the category of someone with at least some resources. And if she's wrong then it's just another person wrong on the internet. And that's ok. There are a lot of posters who complain that they bought a nice house in a nice neighborhood in S. Arlington, only to be surprised that the schools don't measure up to their N. Arlington counterparts. Presumably that was her audience.

Well, I think a lot of posters on here have been talking about those children in our community who would stand to benefit most from socioeconomically integrated schools and neighborhoods, and those are not children of families who can afford to buy a home in the $500,000 range. Also, you can't get into my neighborhood here in the South for that amount unless you're looking at a total tear down, not even a town home in that range.

Lastly, I am of the opinion that public education should be equitable. You should not be able to buy your child's way into a special program through your ability to afford a certain neighborhood, nor should any child be relegated to school that struggles to meet the minimum standards and struggles to raise PTA funds to provide enrichment activities and field trips, because your family cannot. If you want the ability to "buy" a better school, you have the freedom to do so at a private school.

LOL umm ok, the issue is not that you dope. There are minimum standards that all public schools should meet, and even the lowest one's meet that. If you want something that exceeds the standard you go to a richer area. Not that hard, ECON 101

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Living options at $500k in north arlington? Not with 2 kids.

Seriously. That poster needs to stfu. They don't have a clue... And yes - they are the reason the older generation hates all of us.

It's called a small apartment. You can tell me to stfu, but it's exactly what we did on a modest budget. I'm a parent with kids in aps, two of them, in fact. We made huge housing compromises. I know exactly what I'm talking about. You may not consider that a reasonable compromise or option and that's your choice. Not sure why the older generation would hate me for doing that.

Everyone else hates you because you're a sanctimonious ass.

Speak for yourself. PP is totally right that you can make sacrifices on living space to get a better school. Why so much hate for her because she did -- is she wrecking your story that it's not possible?

Because people have made sacrifices to live even in south Arlington. It's shockingly out of touch and entitled to not realize that. That includes all of the single parents, and hard working immigrants that are desperately trying to make a better life for their kids. I'm sure there is a very small percentage of people living south of 50 , around the pike, that opted for new construction and square footage. it's likely smaller than the people you see on these threads gloating over "'buying into"' science focus and now discovery.
Parents make the best choice they can wih the resources they've got. This thread has basically turned into a forum about APS and CB policy. The county as a whole has taken a bit of a laissez faire approach to planning in regards to affordable housing, density, and schools. It's a good thing that there are more well educated, middle class voices rising up from other parts of the county. It's necessary to point out disparities in allotted resources - from all sides. Certainly when you concentrate poverty and English language learners, you are creating an even more expensive school to educate. These decisions ( or lack there of) effect us all.
It's wonderful that pp had the means to live in north Arlington. It's terribly out of touch to assume with just a bit of adjustment everyone else could do the same. It's astounding to hear a north Arlington apt referred to as a sacrifice. I would have loved to afford that. We rented an apt in south arl...
Imagining you made a superior real estate decision doesn't add to this conversation. It's a distraction. There is a forum for that. Please take those remarks there.

Wow. It looks like someone struck a nerve. I think the post about making compromises assumed the ability to own a home in the $500k range. I don't think that poster suggested that someone without some means could do it, or was so "out of touch" to think that everyone can just move to N. Arlington. She's probably assuming that someone who has the time and inclination to have this fight on DCUM probably falls into the category of someone with at least some resources. And if she's wrong then it's just another person wrong on the internet. And that's ok. There are a lot of posters who complain that they bought a nice house in a nice neighborhood in S. Arlington, only to be surprised that the schools don't measure up to their N. Arlington counterparts. Presumably that was her audience.

Well, I think a lot of posters on here have been talking about those children in our community who would stand to benefit most from socioeconomically integrated schools and neighborhoods, and those are not children of families who can afford to buy a home in the $500,000 range. Also, you can't get into my neighborhood here in the South for that amount unless you're looking at a total tear down, not even a town home in that range.

Lastly, I am of the opinion that public education should be equitable. You should not be able to buy your child's way into a special program through your ability to afford a certain neighborhood, nor should any child be relegated to school that struggles to meet the minimum standards and struggles to raise PTA funds to provide enrichment activities and field trips, because your family cannot. If you want the ability to "buy" a better school, you have the freedom to do so at a private school.

LOL umm ok, the issue is not that you dope. There are minimum standards that all public schools should meet, and even the lowest one's meet that. If you want something that exceeds the standard you go to a richer area. Not that hard, ECON 101

Why does a ferrari cost more than a civic?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Living options at $500k in north arlington? Not with 2 kids.

Seriously. That poster needs to stfu. They don't have a clue... And yes - they are the reason the older generation hates all of us.

It's called a small apartment. You can tell me to stfu, but it's exactly what we did on a modest budget. I'm a parent with kids in aps, two of them, in fact. We made huge housing compromises. I know exactly what I'm talking about. You may not consider that a reasonable compromise or option and that's your choice. Not sure why the older generation would hate me for doing that.

People who have lived here happily for decades get offended when new people moving in consider it a sacrifice.

You're calling it a sacrifice, the poster was calling it a compromise. A compromise with respect to the amount of space one can obtain for the same money N vs S of Rt 50. But feel free to get offended by your own mischaracterization of what was said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Living options at $500k in north arlington? Not with 2 kids.

Seriously. That poster needs to stfu. They don't have a clue... And yes - they are the reason the older generation hates all of us.

It's called a small apartment. You can tell me to stfu, but it's exactly what we did on a modest budget. I'm a parent with kids in aps, two of them, in fact. We made huge housing compromises. I know exactly what I'm talking about. You may not consider that a reasonable compromise or option and that's your choice. Not sure why the older generation would hate me for doing that.

People who have lived here happily for decades get offended when new people moving in consider it a sacrifice.

You're calling it a sacrifice, the poster was calling it a compromise. A compromise with respect to the amount of space one can obtain for the same money N vs S of Rt 50. But feel free to get offended by your own mischaracterization of what was said.

It's the same to the older residents.

[Anonymous]

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Lastly, I am of the opinion that public education should be equitable. You should not be able to buy your child's way into a special program through your ability to afford a certain neighborhood, nor should any child be relegated to school that struggles to meet the minimum standards and struggles to raise PTA funds to provide enrichment activities and field trips, because your family cannot. If you want the ability to "buy" a better school, you have the freedom to do so at a private school.

LOL umm ok, the issue is not that you dope. There are minimum standards that all public schools should meet, and even the lowest one's meet that. If you want something that exceeds the standard you go to a richer area. Not that hard, ECON 101

I don't think PP is talking about regular neighborhood schools. This sounds like the PP is calling out the asburd ASFS/Key boundary. ATS and HB are choice, so the whole county can opt-in to the lottery. ASFS is also "choice", but not really. ASFS is a special school for kids whose parents can afford Key boundaries. Although, when you read this board long enough and talk to parents who have experience with that school, you start to realize it isn't all that they wanted you to believe.

[Anonymous]

... And a very productive thread is high jacked by a couple of north Arlington jerks.
Pity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Living options at $500k in north arlington? Not with 2 kids.

Seriously. That poster needs to stfu. They don't have a clue... And yes - they are the reason the older generation hates all of us.

It's called a small apartment. You can tell me to stfu, but it's exactly what we did on a modest budget. I'm a parent with kids in aps, two of them, in fact. We made huge housing compromises. I know exactly what I'm talking about. You may not consider that a reasonable compromise or option and that's your choice. Not sure why the older generation would hate me for doing that.

Everyone else hates you because you're a sanctimonious ass.

Speak for yourself. PP is totally right that you can make sacrifices on living space to get a better school. Why so much hate for her because she did -- is she wrecking your story that it's not possible?

Because people have made sacrifices to live even in south Arlington. It's shockingly out of touch and entitled to not realize that. That includes all of the single parents, and hard working immigrants that are desperately trying to make a better life for their kids. I'm sure there is a very small percentage of people living south of 50 , around the pike, that opted for new construction and square footage. it's likely smaller than the people you see on these threads gloating over "'buying into"' science focus and now discovery.
Parents make the best choice they can wih the resources they've got. This thread has basically turned into a forum about APS and CB policy. The county as a whole has taken a bit of a laissez faire approach to planning in regards to affordable housing, density, and schools. It's a good thing that there are more well educated, middle class voices rising up from other parts of the county. It's necessary to point out disparities in allotted resources - from all sides. Certainly when you concentrate poverty and English language learners, you are creating an even more expensive school to educate. These decisions ( or lack there of) effect us all.
It's wonderful that pp had the means to live in north Arlington. It's terribly out of touch to assume with just a bit of adjustment everyone else could do the same. It's astounding to hear a north Arlington apt referred to as a sacrifice. I would have loved to afford that. We rented an apt in south arl...
Imagining you made a superior real estate decision doesn't add to this conversation. It's a distraction. There is a forum for that. Please take those remarks there.

Wow. It looks like someone struck a nerve. I think the post about making compromises assumed the ability to own a home in the $500k range. I don't think that poster suggested that someone without some means could do it, or was so "out of touch" to think that everyone can just move to N. Arlington. She's probably assuming that someone who has the time and inclination to have this fight on DCUM probably falls into the category of someone with at least some resources. And if she's wrong then it's just another person wrong on the internet. And that's ok. There are a lot of posters who complain that they bought a nice house in a nice neighborhood in S. Arlington, only to be surprised that the schools don't measure up to their N. Arlington counterparts. Presumably that was her audience.

Well, I think a lot of posters on here have been talking about those children in our community who would stand to benefit most from socioeconomically integrated schools and neighborhoods, and those are not children of families who can afford to buy a home in the $500,000 range. Also, you can't get into my neighborhood here in the South for that amount unless you're looking at a total tear down, not even a town home in that range.

Lastly, I am of the opinion that public education should be equitable. You should not be able to buy your child's way into a special program through your ability to afford a certain neighborhood, nor should any child be relegated to school that struggles to meet the minimum standards and struggles to raise PTA funds to provide enrichment activities and field trips, because your family cannot. If you want the ability to "buy" a better school, you have the freedom to do so at a private school.

LOL umm ok, the issue is not that you dope. There are minimum standards that all public schools should meet, and even the lowest one's meet that. If you want something that exceeds the standard you go to a richer area. Not that hard, ECON 101

...ummm property tax is the same on 500,000 no matter where you live in Arlington.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Lastly, I am of the opinion that public education should be equitable. You should not be able to buy your child's way into a special program through your ability to afford a certain neighborhood, nor should any child be relegated to school that struggles to meet the minimum standards and struggles to raise PTA funds to provide enrichment activities and field trips, because your family cannot. If you want the ability to "buy" a better school, you have the freedom to do so at a private school.

LOL umm ok, the issue is not that you dope. There are minimum standards that all public schools should meet, and even the lowest one's meet that. If you want something that exceeds the standard you go to a richer area. Not that hard, ECON 101

I don't think PP is talking about regular neighborhood schools. This sounds like the PP is calling out the asburd ASFS/Key boundary. ATS and HB are choice, so the whole county can opt-in to the lottery. ASFS is also "choice", but not really. ASFS is a special school for kids whose parents can afford Key boundaries. Although, when you read this board long enough and talk to parents who have experience with that school, you start to realize it isn't all that they wanted you to believe.

Yes, this is what they are referring to. It's happening in the south also. Claremont is basically becoming a neighborhood school. Very hard to get in. I would be interested to see if the homes zoned for it have made a substantial increase in value over the next couple of years. I don't think this a good way to organize the school system. Maybe we are too small for choice programs.