The patriotic thing

[takoma]

As two of the most disliked people in the country, Clinton and Trump split this country apart just by being the nominees. If they had any concern for the welfare of their country, they would get together in a joint resignation and leave us with a normal election. Whether the parties promoted Kaine and Pence, or went for their ideal candidates (Biden and Ryan, perhaps), I think we might actually be having sane discussions, here on DCUM and throughout the country, about the issues, rather than about how awful the other candidate and her/his supporters are.

[Anonymous]

OP... when has there EVER been a sane discussion on this forum? I have been a regular reader of DCUM since 2012 and I could probably count on my two hands the number of reasonable, substantive discussions I have seen on this particular forum.

And also, Clinton and Trump are the candidates we deserve. We have vilified politicians to the point that at best only slightly deranged people enter public service. Our civil institutions are slowly dying. People are less and less involved in their communities. Until we snap out of it, this is how things are going to be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP... when has there EVER been a sane discussion on this forum? I have been a regular reader of DCUM since 2012 and I could probably count on my two hands the number of reasonable, substantive discussions I have seen on this particular forum.

And also, Clinton and Trump are the candidates we deserve. We have vilified politicians to the point that at best only slightly deranged people enter public service. Our civil institutions are slowly dying. People are less and less involved in their communities. Until we snap out of it, this is how things are going to be.

Well said, pp.
And, it will be a cold day in hell before Clinton and Trump agree on anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP... when has there EVER been a sane discussion on this forum? I have been a regular reader of DCUM since 2012 and I could probably count on my two hands the number of reasonable, substantive discussions I have seen on this particular forum.

And also, Clinton and Trump are the candidates we deserve. We have vilified politicians to the point that at best only slightly deranged people enter public service. Our civil institutions are slowly dying. People are less and less involved in their communities. Until we snap out of it, this is how things are going to be.

Well said, pp.
And, it will be a cold day in hell before Clinton and Trump agree on anything.

IDK, they were pretty cozy with each other in the past.

[takoma]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP... when has there EVER been a sane discussion on this forum? I have been a regular reader of DCUM since 2012 and I could probably count on my two hands the number of reasonable, substantive discussions I have seen on this particular forum.

And also, Clinton and Trump are the candidates we deserve. We have vilified politicians to the point that at best only slightly deranged people enter public service. Our civil institutions are slowly dying. People are less and less involved in their communities. Until we snap out of it, this is how things are going to be.

Well said, pp.
And, it will be a cold day in hell before Clinton and Trump agree on anything.

IDK, they were pretty cozy with each other in the past.

I confess that I don't think there is any hope of it. but it seems like it would be such a blessing for the country that I figured I'd toss out the idea and hope it would float around the internet and gather support.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP... when has there EVER been a sane discussion on this forum? I have been a regular reader of DCUM since 2012 and I could probably count on my two hands the number of reasonable, substantive discussions I have seen on this particular forum.

And also, Clinton and Trump are the candidates we deserve. We have vilified politicians to the point that at best only slightly deranged people enter public service. Our civil institutions are slowly dying. People are less and less involved in their communities. Until we snap out of it, this is how things are going to be.

There goes Mr doom and gloom. So long Mr

[Anonymous]

takoma wrote:As two of the most disliked people in the country, Clinton and Trump split this country apart just by being the nominees. If they had any concern for the welfare of their country, they would get together in a joint resignation and leave us with a normal election. Whether the parties promoted Kaine and Pence, or went for their ideal candidates (Biden and Ryan, perhaps), I think we might actually be having sane discussions, here on DCUM and throughout the country, about the issues, rather than about how awful the other candidate and her/his supporters are.

What??? The people have chosen their candidates. The idea that you think some poll believes they don't trust them and so they should step aside is highly undemocratic. We have had MUCH more volatile campaigns in this countries history. I enjoy the messiness that all democracies have. Perhaps they are not tearing the country apart, we are seeing just how far apart many of us have always been.

[Anonymous]

I seem to recall a lot of divisive rhetoric, principally from the right, in Bush v. Gore, Bush v. Kerry and Obama v. Romney.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I seem to recall a lot of divisive rhetoric, principally from the right, in Bush v. Gore, Bush v. Kerry and Obama v. Romney.

You are tone deaf if your think the divisive talk was primarily from the right. Gore and his supporters were insufferable.

Everyone treated Obama with kid gloves the first go around (not the second).

Both sides are equally guilty of this.

[Anonymous]

I don't understand people who think this way. Clinton and Trump were nominated in perfectly fair, hotly contested and hard won campaigns. They are the choice of their parties.

Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they should step down. It means you should fight harder next time for your preferred candidate and then participate whatever the outcome.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I seem to recall a lot of divisive rhetoric, principally from the right, in Bush v. Gore, Bush v. Kerry and Obama v. Romney.

You are tone deaf if your think the divisive talk was primarily from the right. Gore and his supporters were insufferable.

Everyone treated Obama with kid gloves the first go around (not the second).

Both sides are equally guilty of this.

I agree. It's actually worse in the House and state level with primary challenges from their own party. Gerrymandering by both parties has ensured that most primaries are the only real battle. Any compromise is seen as weakness so candidates are driven farther to the left and right.

[Anonymous]

Everyone treated Obama with kid gloves the first go around (not the second).

Oh yeah, Sarah Palin TOTALLY took it easy on Obama.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I seem to recall a lot of divisive rhetoric, principally from the right, in Bush v. Gore, Bush v. Kerry and Obama v. Romney.

You are tone deaf if your think the divisive talk was primarily from the right. Gore and his supporters were insufferable.

Everyone treated Obama with kid gloves the first go around (not the second).

Both sides are equally guilty of this.

What were you smoking in 2007-2008?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I seem to recall a lot of divisive rhetoric, principally from the right, in Bush v. Gore, Bush v. Kerry and Obama v. Romney.

You are tone deaf if your think the divisive talk was primarily from the right. Gore and his supporters were insufferable.

Everyone treated Obama with kid gloves the first go around (not the second).

Both sides are equally guilty of this.

I guess being called a Muslim terrorist who hates America=kid gloves

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I seem to recall a lot of divisive rhetoric, principally from the right, in Bush v. Gore, Bush v. Kerry and Obama v. Romney.

You are tone deaf if your think the divisive talk was primarily from the right. Gore and his supporters were insufferable.

Everyone treated Obama with kid gloves the first go around (not the second).

Both sides are equally guilty of this.

I guess being called a Muslim terrorist who hates America=kid gloves

Excuse me? It's SOCIALIST Kenyan Muslim terrorist who hates America, thank you.