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Anonymous wrote:DS reports no subs, presentations and exams this week. A few parties on Thursday and Friday. He as at least one essay due in class on Friday.

Teachers being in class is always variable. It has been rare for DS to have subs during this week over the 9 years he has been in school but that could be an anomaly. The data shows that this is a week where there are lots of subs and lots of absences. Do your thing, just don’t expect that the teachers are required to get your kid caught up. I think most make an effort to get missed work to kids but they don’t have to.

I remember being in school in the 80’s and asking friends to let me know what the assignments were and to give me copy of notes when I missed school for some reason. The teacher wasn’t providing that info, I called and asked a friend. I am not sure why things would be different today.

Parents should write the board and request the number of subs this week. They should send it to the principal as well as gatehouse to discourage further rude and badly received communication.

For what, exactly? Do you want the schools to be closed all of December? Then another group of parents would be upset. Teachers are professionals that are allowed to take vacation days off also.

Yes, teachers can take vacations, and so can parents. If a principal is going to say “our teachers will be teaching” he should have more respect for the parent body that to lie.

Yup. They are most definitely not teaching right up until break. They are administering tests or bs group projects to kill time or have subs. lol.

My entire grade-level subject area is giving a short quiz AND teaching an entire lesson tomorrow/Friday.

My son will be absent from 2nd period on Friday because he has a cardiologist appointment, so he spoke with his teacher about what he will be missing in his class. He is missing a quiz, notes on a new concept, and classwork related to that new concept, during which his teacher always pulls small groups for reteaching. That sounds like teaching is occurring.

As a secondary school teacher, I can 100% guarantee you that no secondary teacher is "killing time." There is no flexibility in the curriculum that would allow for "killing time." We can barely get through our curriculum as it is.

But some of you can have your classes taught by a sub all week so clearly the time pressure is not acute on all of you. Again, I don’t see anything wrong with this. But a principal shouldn’t be saying Teachers will be in the classroom when they will not.

As a teacher, I can assure you that there’s not more than one teacher out in the whole school for the entire week. I don’t even think there’s one teacher out for the entire week.

And yet there are parents on this thread with more than one.

There’s nothing wrong with teachers being out, but its quite a look to send a scolding email to parents when the people who work for you were on a plane last Friday.

There’s email wasn’t “scolding” and teachers didn’t send it. Move on. If you want to take a vacation, take a vacation. Nobody cares about this as much as you do.

You’re right, the teachers didn’t send it, but it makes commitments on their behalf.

And since you’re on page 37 it seems like you really care.

I call out nonsense where I see it. You've spent 37 pages whining about teachers because a principal sent a letter stated that attendance is important.

Write an angry letter to the principal and call out all those horrible teachers for taking their leave. Come back and let us know what response you get.

I think you’re mixing up posters. I’ve been clear this whole thread I think teachers should take their vacation and everyone else should too.

+1 the principal shouldn’t be calling out families for going on vacation…when they have plenty of teachers out…on vacation.

Why are teachers being held to the same standard as kids?

Because their principal sent an email saying they’d be in the classroom. You’ll have to ask the principal why he didn’t limit his statement to students.

Its a dumb email, disrespectful of parents and lying on behalf of teachers.

There are always 5-10 teachers out at anytime at the HS level and 2-3 at ES. The teachers are there.

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Anonymous wrote:DS reports no subs, presentations and exams this week. A few parties on Thursday and Friday. He as at least one essay due in class on Friday.

Teachers being in class is always variable. It has been rare for DS to have subs during this week over the 9 years he has been in school but that could be an anomaly. The data shows that this is a week where there are lots of subs and lots of absences. Do your thing, just don’t expect that the teachers are required to get your kid caught up. I think most make an effort to get missed work to kids but they don’t have to.

I remember being in school in the 80’s and asking friends to let me know what the assignments were and to give me copy of notes when I missed school for some reason. The teacher wasn’t providing that info, I called and asked a friend. I am not sure why things would be different today.

Parents should write the board and request the number of subs this week. They should send it to the principal as well as gatehouse to discourage further rude and badly received communication.

For what, exactly? Do you want the schools to be closed all of December? Then another group of parents would be upset. Teachers are professionals that are allowed to take vacation days off also.

Yes, teachers can take vacations, and so can parents. If a principal is going to say “our teachers will be teaching” he should have more respect for the parent body that to lie.

Yup. They are most definitely not teaching right up until break. They are administering tests or bs group projects to kill time or have subs. lol.

My entire grade-level subject area is giving a short quiz AND teaching an entire lesson tomorrow/Friday.

My son will be absent from 2nd period on Friday because he has a cardiologist appointment, so he spoke with his teacher about what he will be missing in his class. He is missing a quiz, notes on a new concept, and classwork related to that new concept, during which his teacher always pulls small groups for reteaching. That sounds like teaching is occurring.

As a secondary school teacher, I can 100% guarantee you that no secondary teacher is "killing time." There is no flexibility in the curriculum that would allow for "killing time." We can barely get through our curriculum as it is.

But some of you can have your classes taught by a sub all week so clearly the time pressure is not acute on all of you. Again, I don’t see anything wrong with this. But a principal shouldn’t be saying Teachers will be in the classroom when they will not.

As a teacher, I can assure you that there’s not more than one teacher out in the whole school for the entire week. I don’t even think there’s one teacher out for the entire week.

And yet there are parents on this thread with more than one.

There’s nothing wrong with teachers being out, but its quite a look to send a scolding email to parents when the people who work for you were on a plane last Friday.

There’s email wasn’t “scolding” and teachers didn’t send it. Move on. If you want to take a vacation, take a vacation. Nobody cares about this as much as you do.

You’re right, the teachers didn’t send it, but it makes commitments on their behalf.

And since you’re on page 37 it seems like you really care.

I call out nonsense where I see it. You've spent 37 pages whining about teachers because a principal sent a letter stated that attendance is important.

Write an angry letter to the principal and call out all those horrible teachers for taking their leave. Come back and let us know what response you get.

I think you’re mixing up posters. I’ve been clear this whole thread I think teachers should take their vacation and everyone else should too.

+1 the principal shouldn’t be calling out families for going on vacation…when they have plenty of teachers out…on vacation.

Why are teachers being held to the same standard as kids?

Because their principal sent an email saying they’d be in the classroom. You’ll have to ask the principal why he didn’t limit his statement to students.

Its a dumb email, disrespectful of parents and lying on behalf of teachers.

There are always 5-10 teachers out at anytime at the HS level and 2-3 at ES. The teachers are there.

We know two who were on planes last week. Exactly what the principal was yelling at the parents about. Its a bad look that the principal either thinks parents are idiots and don’t know the teachers are traveling OR can’t even convince the teachers of the importance of the “gift of attendance”

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Anonymous wrote:The school did not send that message because of racism or discrimination. They sent it for 2 reasons, 1: Attendance rate is a part of a schools accreditation. FCPS wants to ensure all of its schools are accredited. 2. Their is a direct correlation between attendance and gpa. Sure there are some outliers but the majority of students need to be in school to do well and missing school creates gaps in their learning.

This is what strains credibility. There’s no educational justification for our calendar, kids at the younger, critical ages don’t benefit from lack of repetition and routine. So to say missing school creates gaps— while potentially true— ignores the gaps the school creates and considers just fine.

Take it up with the state the the federal govt. No child left behind (Bush and Obama) forced states to create standards. Virginia included attendance in its standards. None of this is FCPS's fault. Wanting you to be in school is forced on FCPS by the state. The standards do not include exceptions, this is why students who go out for a while receive homebound services. Sure the calendar sucks but that is our fault. We (the residents of fairfax county) voted a bunch of people into the school board who put activism before children. Now we have a terrible calendar with the same standards.

This, although it was Youngkin and one (or more) of his three state superintendents that actually tied attendance to funding as well as accreditation.

Also, the mental gymnastics on this thread of the people still mad about COVID closures...you hated that your children weren't in school, so you're sticking it to the school system by...not sending them to school?

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Anonymous wrote:DS reports no subs, presentations and exams this week. A few parties on Thursday and Friday. He as at least one essay due in class on Friday.

Teachers being in class is always variable. It has been rare for DS to have subs during this week over the 9 years he has been in school but that could be an anomaly. The data shows that this is a week where there are lots of subs and lots of absences. Do your thing, just don’t expect that the teachers are required to get your kid caught up. I think most make an effort to get missed work to kids but they don’t have to.

I remember being in school in the 80’s and asking friends to let me know what the assignments were and to give me copy of notes when I missed school for some reason. The teacher wasn’t providing that info, I called and asked a friend. I am not sure why things would be different today.

Parents should write the board and request the number of subs this week. They should send it to the principal as well as gatehouse to discourage further rude and badly received communication.

For what, exactly? Do you want the schools to be closed all of December? Then another group of parents would be upset. Teachers are professionals that are allowed to take vacation days off also.

Yes, teachers can take vacations, and so can parents. If a principal is going to say “our teachers will be teaching” he should have more respect for the parent body that to lie.

Yup. They are most definitely not teaching right up until break. They are administering tests or bs group projects to kill time or have subs. lol.

My entire grade-level subject area is giving a short quiz AND teaching an entire lesson tomorrow/Friday.

My son will be absent from 2nd period on Friday because he has a cardiologist appointment, so he spoke with his teacher about what he will be missing in his class. He is missing a quiz, notes on a new concept, and classwork related to that new concept, during which his teacher always pulls small groups for reteaching. That sounds like teaching is occurring.

As a secondary school teacher, I can 100% guarantee you that no secondary teacher is "killing time." There is no flexibility in the curriculum that would allow for "killing time." We can barely get through our curriculum as it is.

But some of you can have your classes taught by a sub all week so clearly the time pressure is not acute on all of you. Again, I don’t see anything wrong with this. But a principal shouldn’t be saying Teachers will be in the classroom when they will not.

As a teacher, I can assure you that there’s not more than one teacher out in the whole school for the entire week. I don’t even think there’s one teacher out for the entire week.

And yet there are parents on this thread with more than one.

There’s nothing wrong with teachers being out, but its quite a look to send a scolding email to parents when the people who work for you were on a plane last Friday.

There’s email wasn’t “scolding” and teachers didn’t send it. Move on. If you want to take a vacation, take a vacation. Nobody cares about this as much as you do.

You’re right, the teachers didn’t send it, but it makes commitments on their behalf.

And since you’re on page 37 it seems like you really care.

I call out nonsense where I see it. You've spent 37 pages whining about teachers because a principal sent a letter stated that attendance is important.

Write an angry letter to the principal and call out all those horrible teachers for taking their leave. Come back and let us know what response you get.

I think you’re mixing up posters. I’ve been clear this whole thread I think teachers should take their vacation and everyone else should too.

+1 the principal shouldn’t be calling out families for going on vacation…when they have plenty of teachers out…on vacation.

Why are teachers being held to the same standard as kids?

Because their principal sent an email saying they’d be in the classroom. You’ll have to ask the principal why he didn’t limit his statement to students.

Its a dumb email, disrespectful of parents and lying on behalf of teachers.

It wasn’t a dumb email, and (as a parent) I didn’t see it as disrespectful.

I’m also a teacher. Saying teachers are teaching wasn’t lying. They are! You think every class was filled with subs? Nonsense.

Put it to rest.

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Anonymous wrote:DS reports no subs, presentations and exams this week. A few parties on Thursday and Friday. He as at least one essay due in class on Friday.

Teachers being in class is always variable. It has been rare for DS to have subs during this week over the 9 years he has been in school but that could be an anomaly. The data shows that this is a week where there are lots of subs and lots of absences. Do your thing, just don’t expect that the teachers are required to get your kid caught up. I think most make an effort to get missed work to kids but they don’t have to.

I remember being in school in the 80’s and asking friends to let me know what the assignments were and to give me copy of notes when I missed school for some reason. The teacher wasn’t providing that info, I called and asked a friend. I am not sure why things would be different today.

Parents should write the board and request the number of subs this week. They should send it to the principal as well as gatehouse to discourage further rude and badly received communication.

For what, exactly? Do you want the schools to be closed all of December? Then another group of parents would be upset. Teachers are professionals that are allowed to take vacation days off also.

Yes, teachers can take vacations, and so can parents. If a principal is going to say “our teachers will be teaching” he should have more respect for the parent body that to lie.

Yup. They are most definitely not teaching right up until break. They are administering tests or bs group projects to kill time or have subs. lol.

My entire grade-level subject area is giving a short quiz AND teaching an entire lesson tomorrow/Friday.

My son will be absent from 2nd period on Friday because he has a cardiologist appointment, so he spoke with his teacher about what he will be missing in his class. He is missing a quiz, notes on a new concept, and classwork related to that new concept, during which his teacher always pulls small groups for reteaching. That sounds like teaching is occurring.

As a secondary school teacher, I can 100% guarantee you that no secondary teacher is "killing time." There is no flexibility in the curriculum that would allow for "killing time." We can barely get through our curriculum as it is.

But some of you can have your classes taught by a sub all week so clearly the time pressure is not acute on all of you. Again, I don’t see anything wrong with this. But a principal shouldn’t be saying Teachers will be in the classroom when they will not.

As a teacher, I can assure you that there’s not more than one teacher out in the whole school for the entire week. I don’t even think there’s one teacher out for the entire week.

And yet there are parents on this thread with more than one.

There’s nothing wrong with teachers being out, but its quite a look to send a scolding email to parents when the people who work for you were on a plane last Friday.

There’s email wasn’t “scolding” and teachers didn’t send it. Move on. If you want to take a vacation, take a vacation. Nobody cares about this as much as you do.

You’re right, the teachers didn’t send it, but it makes commitments on their behalf.

And since you’re on page 37 it seems like you really care.

I call out nonsense where I see it. You've spent 37 pages whining about teachers because a principal sent a letter stated that attendance is important.

Write an angry letter to the principal and call out all those horrible teachers for taking their leave. Come back and let us know what response you get.

I think you’re mixing up posters. I’ve been clear this whole thread I think teachers should take their vacation and everyone else should too.

+1 the principal shouldn’t be calling out families for going on vacation…when they have plenty of teachers out…on vacation.

Why are teachers being held to the same standard as kids?

Because their principal sent an email saying they’d be in the classroom. You’ll have to ask the principal why he didn’t limit his statement to students.

Its a dumb email, disrespectful of parents and lying on behalf of teachers.

There are always 5-10 teachers out at anytime at the HS level and 2-3 at ES. The teachers are there.

We know two who were on planes last week. Exactly what the principal was yelling at the parents about. Its a bad look that the principal either thinks parents are idiots and don’t know the teachers are traveling OR can’t even convince the teachers of the importance of the “gift of attendance”

Those two were probably married to each other.

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Anonymous wrote:DS reports no subs, presentations and exams this week. A few parties on Thursday and Friday. He as at least one essay due in class on Friday.

Teachers being in class is always variable. It has been rare for DS to have subs during this week over the 9 years he has been in school but that could be an anomaly. The data shows that this is a week where there are lots of subs and lots of absences. Do your thing, just don’t expect that the teachers are required to get your kid caught up. I think most make an effort to get missed work to kids but they don’t have to.

I remember being in school in the 80’s and asking friends to let me know what the assignments were and to give me copy of notes when I missed school for some reason. The teacher wasn’t providing that info, I called and asked a friend. I am not sure why things would be different today.

Parents should write the board and request the number of subs this week. They should send it to the principal as well as gatehouse to discourage further rude and badly received communication.

For what, exactly? Do you want the schools to be closed all of December? Then another group of parents would be upset. Teachers are professionals that are allowed to take vacation days off also.

Yes, teachers can take vacations, and so can parents. If a principal is going to say “our teachers will be teaching” he should have more respect for the parent body that to lie.

Yup. They are most definitely not teaching right up until break. They are administering tests or bs group projects to kill time or have subs. lol.

My entire grade-level subject area is giving a short quiz AND teaching an entire lesson tomorrow/Friday.

My son will be absent from 2nd period on Friday because he has a cardiologist appointment, so he spoke with his teacher about what he will be missing in his class. He is missing a quiz, notes on a new concept, and classwork related to that new concept, during which his teacher always pulls small groups for reteaching. That sounds like teaching is occurring.

As a secondary school teacher, I can 100% guarantee you that no secondary teacher is "killing time." There is no flexibility in the curriculum that would allow for "killing time." We can barely get through our curriculum as it is.

But some of you can have your classes taught by a sub all week so clearly the time pressure is not acute on all of you. Again, I don’t see anything wrong with this. But a principal shouldn’t be saying Teachers will be in the classroom when they will not.

As a teacher, I can assure you that there’s not more than one teacher out in the whole school for the entire week. I don’t even think there’s one teacher out for the entire week.

And yet there are parents on this thread with more than one.

There’s nothing wrong with teachers being out, but its quite a look to send a scolding email to parents when the people who work for you were on a plane last Friday.

There’s email wasn’t “scolding” and teachers didn’t send it. Move on. If you want to take a vacation, take a vacation. Nobody cares about this as much as you do.

You’re right, the teachers didn’t send it, but it makes commitments on their behalf.

And since you’re on page 37 it seems like you really care.

I call out nonsense where I see it. You've spent 37 pages whining about teachers because a principal sent a letter stated that attendance is important.

Write an angry letter to the principal and call out all those horrible teachers for taking their leave. Come back and let us know what response you get.

I think you’re mixing up posters. I’ve been clear this whole thread I think teachers should take their vacation and everyone else should too.

+1 the principal shouldn’t be calling out families for going on vacation…when they have plenty of teachers out…on vacation.

Why are teachers being held to the same standard as kids?

Because their principal sent an email saying they’d be in the classroom. You’ll have to ask the principal why he didn’t limit his statement to students.

Its a dumb email, disrespectful of parents and lying on behalf of teachers.

There are always 5-10 teachers out at anytime at the HS level and 2-3 at ES. The teachers are there.

We know two who were on planes last week. Exactly what the principal was yelling at the parents about. Its a bad look that the principal either thinks parents are idiots and don’t know the teachers are traveling OR can’t even convince the teachers of the importance of the “gift of attendance”

Those two were probably married to each other.

Lol if so, it’s an incredibly well kept secret from their respective spouses.

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Anonymous wrote:DS reports no subs, presentations and exams this week. A few parties on Thursday and Friday. He as at least one essay due in class on Friday.

Teachers being in class is always variable. It has been rare for DS to have subs during this week over the 9 years he has been in school but that could be an anomaly. The data shows that this is a week where there are lots of subs and lots of absences. Do your thing, just don’t expect that the teachers are required to get your kid caught up. I think most make an effort to get missed work to kids but they don’t have to.

I remember being in school in the 80’s and asking friends to let me know what the assignments were and to give me copy of notes when I missed school for some reason. The teacher wasn’t providing that info, I called and asked a friend. I am not sure why things would be different today.

Parents should write the board and request the number of subs this week. They should send it to the principal as well as gatehouse to discourage further rude and badly received communication.

For what, exactly? Do you want the schools to be closed all of December? Then another group of parents would be upset. Teachers are professionals that are allowed to take vacation days off also.

Yes, teachers can take vacations, and so can parents. If a principal is going to say “our teachers will be teaching” he should have more respect for the parent body that to lie.

Yup. They are most definitely not teaching right up until break. They are administering tests or bs group projects to kill time or have subs. lol.

My entire grade-level subject area is giving a short quiz AND teaching an entire lesson tomorrow/Friday.

My son will be absent from 2nd period on Friday because he has a cardiologist appointment, so he spoke with his teacher about what he will be missing in his class. He is missing a quiz, notes on a new concept, and classwork related to that new concept, during which his teacher always pulls small groups for reteaching. That sounds like teaching is occurring.

As a secondary school teacher, I can 100% guarantee you that no secondary teacher is "killing time." There is no flexibility in the curriculum that would allow for "killing time." We can barely get through our curriculum as it is.

But some of you can have your classes taught by a sub all week so clearly the time pressure is not acute on all of you. Again, I don’t see anything wrong with this. But a principal shouldn’t be saying Teachers will be in the classroom when they will not.

As a teacher, I can assure you that there’s not more than one teacher out in the whole school for the entire week. I don’t even think there’s one teacher out for the entire week.

And yet there are parents on this thread with more than one.

There’s nothing wrong with teachers being out, but its quite a look to send a scolding email to parents when the people who work for you were on a plane last Friday.

There’s email wasn’t “scolding” and teachers didn’t send it. Move on. If you want to take a vacation, take a vacation. Nobody cares about this as much as you do.

You’re right, the teachers didn’t send it, but it makes commitments on their behalf.

And since you’re on page 37 it seems like you really care.

I call out nonsense where I see it. You've spent 37 pages whining about teachers because a principal sent a letter stated that attendance is important.

Write an angry letter to the principal and call out all those horrible teachers for taking their leave. Come back and let us know what response you get.

I think you’re mixing up posters. I’ve been clear this whole thread I think teachers should take their vacation and everyone else should too.

+1 the principal shouldn’t be calling out families for going on vacation…when they have plenty of teachers out…on vacation.

Why are teachers being held to the same standard as kids?

Because their principal sent an email saying they’d be in the classroom. You’ll have to ask the principal why he didn’t limit his statement to students.

Its a dumb email, disrespectful of parents and lying on behalf of teachers.

It wasn’t a dumb email, and (as a parent) I didn’t see it as disrespectful.

I’m also a teacher. Saying teachers are teaching wasn’t lying. They are! You think every class was filled with subs? Nonsense.

Put it to rest.

I’m sorry you’re not permitted to dictate to others how they feel about an email, or what they’re permitted to talk about. Do you try to exert this level of control another area areas of your life?

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Anonymous wrote:DS reports no subs, presentations and exams this week. A few parties on Thursday and Friday. He as at least one essay due in class on Friday.

Teachers being in class is always variable. It has been rare for DS to have subs during this week over the 9 years he has been in school but that could be an anomaly. The data shows that this is a week where there are lots of subs and lots of absences. Do your thing, just don’t expect that the teachers are required to get your kid caught up. I think most make an effort to get missed work to kids but they don’t have to.

I remember being in school in the 80’s and asking friends to let me know what the assignments were and to give me copy of notes when I missed school for some reason. The teacher wasn’t providing that info, I called and asked a friend. I am not sure why things would be different today.

Parents should write the board and request the number of subs this week. They should send it to the principal as well as gatehouse to discourage further rude and badly received communication.

For what, exactly? Do you want the schools to be closed all of December? Then another group of parents would be upset. Teachers are professionals that are allowed to take vacation days off also.

Yes, teachers can take vacations, and so can parents. If a principal is going to say “our teachers will be teaching” he should have more respect for the parent body that to lie.

Yup. They are most definitely not teaching right up until break. They are administering tests or bs group projects to kill time or have subs. lol.

My entire grade-level subject area is giving a short quiz AND teaching an entire lesson tomorrow/Friday.

My son will be absent from 2nd period on Friday because he has a cardiologist appointment, so he spoke with his teacher about what he will be missing in his class. He is missing a quiz, notes on a new concept, and classwork related to that new concept, during which his teacher always pulls small groups for reteaching. That sounds like teaching is occurring.

As a secondary school teacher, I can 100% guarantee you that no secondary teacher is "killing time." There is no flexibility in the curriculum that would allow for "killing time." We can barely get through our curriculum as it is.

But some of you can have your classes taught by a sub all week so clearly the time pressure is not acute on all of you. Again, I don’t see anything wrong with this. But a principal shouldn’t be saying Teachers will be in the classroom when they will not.

As a teacher, I can assure you that there’s not more than one teacher out in the whole school for the entire week. I don’t even think there’s one teacher out for the entire week.

And yet there are parents on this thread with more than one.

There’s nothing wrong with teachers being out, but its quite a look to send a scolding email to parents when the people who work for you were on a plane last Friday.

There’s email wasn’t “scolding” and teachers didn’t send it. Move on. If you want to take a vacation, take a vacation. Nobody cares about this as much as you do.

You’re right, the teachers didn’t send it, but it makes commitments on their behalf.

And since you’re on page 37 it seems like you really care.

I call out nonsense where I see it. You've spent 37 pages whining about teachers because a principal sent a letter stated that attendance is important.

Write an angry letter to the principal and call out all those horrible teachers for taking their leave. Come back and let us know what response you get.

I think you’re mixing up posters. I’ve been clear this whole thread I think teachers should take their vacation and everyone else should too.

+1 the principal shouldn’t be calling out families for going on vacation…when they have plenty of teachers out…on vacation.

Why are teachers being held to the same standard as kids?

Because their principal sent an email saying they’d be in the classroom. You’ll have to ask the principal why he didn’t limit his statement to students.

Its a dumb email, disrespectful of parents and lying on behalf of teachers.

There are always 5-10 teachers out at anytime at the HS level and 2-3 at ES. The teachers are there.

The sub data suggests that many of them are, in fact, not there.

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Anonymous wrote:DS reports no subs, presentations and exams this week. A few parties on Thursday and Friday. He as at least one essay due in class on Friday.

Teachers being in class is always variable. It has been rare for DS to have subs during this week over the 9 years he has been in school but that could be an anomaly. The data shows that this is a week where there are lots of subs and lots of absences. Do your thing, just don’t expect that the teachers are required to get your kid caught up. I think most make an effort to get missed work to kids but they don’t have to.

I remember being in school in the 80’s and asking friends to let me know what the assignments were and to give me copy of notes when I missed school for some reason. The teacher wasn’t providing that info, I called and asked a friend. I am not sure why things would be different today.

Parents should write the board and request the number of subs this week. They should send it to the principal as well as gatehouse to discourage further rude and badly received communication.

For what, exactly? Do you want the schools to be closed all of December? Then another group of parents would be upset. Teachers are professionals that are allowed to take vacation days off also.

Yes, teachers can take vacations, and so can parents. If a principal is going to say “our teachers will be teaching” he should have more respect for the parent body that to lie.

Yup. They are most definitely not teaching right up until break. They are administering tests or bs group projects to kill time or have subs. lol.

My entire grade-level subject area is giving a short quiz AND teaching an entire lesson tomorrow/Friday.

My son will be absent from 2nd period on Friday because he has a cardiologist appointment, so he spoke with his teacher about what he will be missing in his class. He is missing a quiz, notes on a new concept, and classwork related to that new concept, during which his teacher always pulls small groups for reteaching. That sounds like teaching is occurring.

As a secondary school teacher, I can 100% guarantee you that no secondary teacher is "killing time." There is no flexibility in the curriculum that would allow for "killing time." We can barely get through our curriculum as it is.

But some of you can have your classes taught by a sub all week so clearly the time pressure is not acute on all of you. Again, I don’t see anything wrong with this. But a principal shouldn’t be saying Teachers will be in the classroom when they will not.

As a teacher, I can assure you that there’s not more than one teacher out in the whole school for the entire week. I don’t even think there’s one teacher out for the entire week.

And yet there are parents on this thread with more than one.

There’s nothing wrong with teachers being out, but its quite a look to send a scolding email to parents when the people who work for you were on a plane last Friday.

There’s email wasn’t “scolding” and teachers didn’t send it. Move on. If you want to take a vacation, take a vacation. Nobody cares about this as much as you do.

You’re right, the teachers didn’t send it, but it makes commitments on their behalf.

And since you’re on page 37 it seems like you really care.

I call out nonsense where I see it. You've spent 37 pages whining about teachers because a principal sent a letter stated that attendance is important.

Write an angry letter to the principal and call out all those horrible teachers for taking their leave. Come back and let us know what response you get.

I think you’re mixing up posters. I’ve been clear this whole thread I think teachers should take their vacation and everyone else should too.

+1 the principal shouldn’t be calling out families for going on vacation…when they have plenty of teachers out…on vacation.

But do they? Really?

I know of ONE teacher who left early to visit family. I’d hardly call her situation a “vacation.” And I know many teachers.

I’d love to know which school has “plenty” of teachers on vacation. Can a poster here name just ONE school with “plenty” of teachers on vacation?

I know this is DCUM and we love sensationalism. But, just for once, let’s be realistic. Who has real proof of “plenty” of teachers from one school on vacation?

This is knowable data without doxxing teachers. Just look at the sub lists for multiple days that started monday/tuesday of this week. Those are the vacations vs. sick.

Not necessarily. My coworker was sick Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday. Her students thought she was on vacation, but that's because it's not anyone's place to share why someone is out.[b] She's free to share it when she returns.

Does that apply to everyone or just teachers?

I also don't share with students why another student is out.

What matters is her supervisor knew why she was out. And I knew because she chose to share it with me.

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Teachers do get a certain amount of any purpose (personal) leave. It is not a lot of leave. A substitute is in the classroom.

It is not a justification for taking your child out for weeks.
Schools receive funds based on average daily attendance. If your child is out for weeks, you are damaging the bottom line.

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Anonymous wrote:DS reports no subs, presentations and exams this week. A few parties on Thursday and Friday. He as at least one essay due in class on Friday.

Teachers being in class is always variable. It has been rare for DS to have subs during this week over the 9 years he has been in school but that could be an anomaly. The data shows that this is a week where there are lots of subs and lots of absences. Do your thing, just don’t expect that the teachers are required to get your kid caught up. I think most make an effort to get missed work to kids but they don’t have to.

I remember being in school in the 80’s and asking friends to let me know what the assignments were and to give me copy of notes when I missed school for some reason. The teacher wasn’t providing that info, I called and asked a friend. I am not sure why things would be different today.

Parents should write the board and request the number of subs this week. They should send it to the principal as well as gatehouse to discourage further rude and badly received communication.

For what, exactly? Do you want the schools to be closed all of December? Then another group of parents would be upset. Teachers are professionals that are allowed to take vacation days off also.

Yes, teachers can take vacations, and so can parents. If a principal is going to say “our teachers will be teaching” he should have more respect for the parent body that to lie.

Yup. They are most definitely not teaching right up until break. They are administering tests or bs group projects to kill time or have subs. lol.

My entire grade-level subject area is giving a short quiz AND teaching an entire lesson tomorrow/Friday.

My son will be absent from 2nd period on Friday because he has a cardiologist appointment, so he spoke with his teacher about what he will be missing in his class. He is missing a quiz, notes on a new concept, and classwork related to that new concept, during which his teacher always pulls small groups for reteaching. That sounds like teaching is occurring.

As a secondary school teacher, I can 100% guarantee you that no secondary teacher is "killing time." There is no flexibility in the curriculum that would allow for "killing time." We can barely get through our curriculum as it is.

But some of you can have your classes taught by a sub all week so clearly the time pressure is not acute on all of you. Again, I don’t see anything wrong with this. But a principal shouldn’t be saying Teachers will be in the classroom when they will not.

As a teacher, I can assure you that there’s not more than one teacher out in the whole school for the entire week. I don’t even think there’s one teacher out for the entire week.

And yet there are parents on this thread with more than one.

There’s nothing wrong with teachers being out, but its quite a look to send a scolding email to parents when the people who work for you were on a plane last Friday.

There’s email wasn’t “scolding” and teachers didn’t send it. Move on. If you want to take a vacation, take a vacation. Nobody cares about this as much as you do.

You’re right, the teachers didn’t send it, but it makes commitments on their behalf.

And since you’re on page 37 it seems like you really care.

I call out nonsense where I see it. You've spent 37 pages whining about teachers because a principal sent a letter stated that attendance is important.

Write an angry letter to the principal and call out all those horrible teachers for taking their leave. Come back and let us know what response you get.

I think you’re mixing up posters. I’ve been clear this whole thread I think teachers should take their vacation and everyone else should too.

+1 the principal shouldn’t be calling out families for going on vacation…when they have plenty of teachers out…on vacation.

Why are teachers being held to the same standard as kids?

Because their principal sent an email saying they’d be in the classroom. You’ll have to ask the principal why he didn’t limit his statement to students.

Its a dumb email, disrespectful of parents and lying on behalf of teachers.

It wasn’t a dumb email, and (as a parent) I didn’t see it as disrespectful.

I’m also a teacher. Saying teachers are teaching wasn’t lying. They are! You think every class was filled with subs? Nonsense.

Put it to rest.

I’m sorry you’re not permitted to dictate to others how they feel about an email, or what they’re permitted to talk about. Do you try to exert this level of control another area areas of your life?

When I’m upset about something, I take action.

You seem very upset about that email, so much so that you’ve complained for many pages.

Have you emailed the principal? Have you called out those teachers for using their leave?

If not, then you’re simply spewing negativity into the universe. Do something or hush.

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Anonymous wrote:DS reports no subs, presentations and exams this week. A few parties on Thursday and Friday. He as at least one essay due in class on Friday.

Teachers being in class is always variable. It has been rare for DS to have subs during this week over the 9 years he has been in school but that could be an anomaly. The data shows that this is a week where there are lots of subs and lots of absences. Do your thing, just don’t expect that the teachers are required to get your kid caught up. I think most make an effort to get missed work to kids but they don’t have to.

I remember being in school in the 80’s and asking friends to let me know what the assignments were and to give me copy of notes when I missed school for some reason. The teacher wasn’t providing that info, I called and asked a friend. I am not sure why things would be different today.

Parents should write the board and request the number of subs this week. They should send it to the principal as well as gatehouse to discourage further rude and badly received communication.

For what, exactly? Do you want the schools to be closed all of December? Then another group of parents would be upset. Teachers are professionals that are allowed to take vacation days off also.

Yes, teachers can take vacations, and so can parents. If a principal is going to say “our teachers will be teaching” he should have more respect for the parent body that to lie.

Yup. They are most definitely not teaching right up until break. They are administering tests or bs group projects to kill time or have subs. lol.

My entire grade-level subject area is giving a short quiz AND teaching an entire lesson tomorrow/Friday.

My son will be absent from 2nd period on Friday because he has a cardiologist appointment, so he spoke with his teacher about what he will be missing in his class. He is missing a quiz, notes on a new concept, and classwork related to that new concept, during which his teacher always pulls small groups for reteaching. That sounds like teaching is occurring.

As a secondary school teacher, I can 100% guarantee you that no secondary teacher is "killing time." There is no flexibility in the curriculum that would allow for "killing time." We can barely get through our curriculum as it is.

But some of you can have your classes taught by a sub all week so clearly the time pressure is not acute on all of you. Again, I don’t see anything wrong with this. But a principal shouldn’t be saying Teachers will be in the classroom when they will not.

As a teacher, I can assure you that there’s not more than one teacher out in the whole school for the entire week. I don’t even think there’s one teacher out for the entire week.

And yet there are parents on this thread with more than one.

There’s nothing wrong with teachers being out, but its quite a look to send a scolding email to parents when the people who work for you were on a plane last Friday.

There’s email wasn’t “scolding” and teachers didn’t send it. Move on. If you want to take a vacation, take a vacation. Nobody cares about this as much as you do.

You’re right, the teachers didn’t send it, but it makes commitments on their behalf.

And since you’re on page 37 it seems like you really care.

I call out nonsense where I see it. You've spent 37 pages whining about teachers because a principal sent a letter stated that attendance is important.

Write an angry letter to the principal and call out all those horrible teachers for taking their leave. Come back and let us know what response you get.

I think you’re mixing up posters. I’ve been clear this whole thread I think teachers should take their vacation and everyone else should too.

+1 the principal shouldn’t be calling out families for going on vacation…when they have plenty of teachers out…on vacation.

Why are teachers being held to the same standard as kids?

Because their principal sent an email saying they’d be in the classroom. You’ll have to ask the principal why he didn’t limit his statement to students.

Its a dumb email, disrespectful of parents and lying on behalf of teachers.

It wasn’t a dumb email, and (as a parent) I didn’t see it as disrespectful.

I’m also a teacher. Saying teachers are teaching wasn’t lying. They are! You think every class was filled with subs? Nonsense.

Put it to rest.

I’m sorry you’re not permitted to dictate to others how they feel about an email, or what they’re permitted to talk about. Do you try to exert this level of control another area areas of your life?

When I’m upset about something, I take action.

You seem very upset about that email, so much so that you’ve complained for many pages.

Have you emailed the principal? Have you called out those teachers for using their leave?

If not, then you’re simply spewing negativity into the universe. Do something or hush.

Again, literally no one needs to “hush” because you say so.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers do get a certain amount of any purpose (personal) leave. It is not a lot of leave. A substitute is in the classroom.

It is not a justification for taking your child out for weeks.
Schools receive funds based on average daily attendance. If your child is out for weeks, you are damaging the bottom line.

If the principal doesn’t care to treat the families with respect and Gatehouse doesn’t care to use the tools they have which could improve overall attendance, why should I care more than they do?

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Anonymous wrote:DS reports no subs, presentations and exams this week. A few parties on Thursday and Friday. He as at least one essay due in class on Friday.

Teachers being in class is always variable. It has been rare for DS to have subs during this week over the 9 years he has been in school but that could be an anomaly. The data shows that this is a week where there are lots of subs and lots of absences. Do your thing, just don’t expect that the teachers are required to get your kid caught up. I think most make an effort to get missed work to kids but they don’t have to.

I remember being in school in the 80’s and asking friends to let me know what the assignments were and to give me copy of notes when I missed school for some reason. The teacher wasn’t providing that info, I called and asked a friend. I am not sure why things would be different today.

Parents should write the board and request the number of subs this week. They should send it to the principal as well as gatehouse to discourage further rude and badly received communication.

For what, exactly? Do you want the schools to be closed all of December? Then another group of parents would be upset. Teachers are professionals that are allowed to take vacation days off also.

Yes, teachers can take vacations, and so can parents. If a principal is going to say “our teachers will be teaching” he should have more respect for the parent body that to lie.

Yup. They are most definitely not teaching right up until break. They are administering tests or bs group projects to kill time or have subs. lol.

My entire grade-level subject area is giving a short quiz AND teaching an entire lesson tomorrow/Friday.

My son will be absent from 2nd period on Friday because he has a cardiologist appointment, so he spoke with his teacher about what he will be missing in his class. He is missing a quiz, notes on a new concept, and classwork related to that new concept, during which his teacher always pulls small groups for reteaching. That sounds like teaching is occurring.

As a secondary school teacher, I can 100% guarantee you that no secondary teacher is "killing time." There is no flexibility in the curriculum that would allow for "killing time." We can barely get through our curriculum as it is.

But some of you can have your classes taught by a sub all week so clearly the time pressure is not acute on all of you. Again, I don’t see anything wrong with this. But a principal shouldn’t be saying Teachers will be in the classroom when they will not.

As a teacher, I can assure you that there’s not more than one teacher out in the whole school for the entire week. I don’t even think there’s one teacher out for the entire week.

And yet there are parents on this thread with more than one.

There’s nothing wrong with teachers being out, but its quite a look to send a scolding email to parents when the people who work for you were on a plane last Friday.

There’s email wasn’t “scolding” and teachers didn’t send it. Move on. If you want to take a vacation, take a vacation. Nobody cares about this as much as you do.

You’re right, the teachers didn’t send it, but it makes commitments on their behalf.

And since you’re on page 37 it seems like you really care.

I call out nonsense where I see it. You've spent 37 pages whining about teachers because a principal sent a letter stated that attendance is important.

Write an angry letter to the principal and call out all those horrible teachers for taking their leave. Come back and let us know what response you get.

I think you’re mixing up posters. I’ve been clear this whole thread I think teachers should take their vacation and everyone else should too.

+1 the principal shouldn’t be calling out families for going on vacation…when they have plenty of teachers out…on vacation.

Why are teachers being held to the same standard as kids?

Because their principal sent an email saying they’d be in the classroom. You’ll have to ask the principal why he didn’t limit his statement to students.

Its a dumb email, disrespectful of parents and lying on behalf of teachers.

It wasn’t a dumb email, and (as a parent) I didn’t see it as disrespectful.

I’m also a teacher. Saying teachers are teaching wasn’t lying. They are! You think every class was filled with subs? Nonsense.

Put it to rest.

I’m sorry you’re not permitted to dictate to others how they feel about an email, or what they’re permitted to talk about. Do you try to exert this level of control another area areas of your life?

When I’m upset about something, I take action.

You seem very upset about that email, so much so that you’ve complained for many pages.

Have you emailed the principal? Have you called out those teachers for using their leave?

If not, then you’re simply spewing negativity into the universe. Do something or hush.

Again, literally no one needs to “hush” because you say so.

Well, then know your efforts are wasted. The vast majority of people will send their kids to school. The vast majority of teachers will be teaching. The Earth will keep spinning.

A couple families will pull their kids for vacations, in spite of the letter. A couple teachers will use the leave that is theirs to use. The Earth will keep on spinning.

And you’ll still be angry and unable to direct that anger in a constructive direction. No resolution for you.

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Anonymous wrote:DS reports no subs, presentations and exams this week. A few parties on Thursday and Friday. He as at least one essay due in class on Friday.

Teachers being in class is always variable. It has been rare for DS to have subs during this week over the 9 years he has been in school but that could be an anomaly. The data shows that this is a week where there are lots of subs and lots of absences. Do your thing, just don’t expect that the teachers are required to get your kid caught up. I think most make an effort to get missed work to kids but they don’t have to.

I remember being in school in the 80’s and asking friends to let me know what the assignments were and to give me copy of notes when I missed school for some reason. The teacher wasn’t providing that info, I called and asked a friend. I am not sure why things would be different today.

Parents should write the board and request the number of subs this week. They should send it to the principal as well as gatehouse to discourage further rude and badly received communication.

For what, exactly? Do you want the schools to be closed all of December? Then another group of parents would be upset. Teachers are professionals that are allowed to take vacation days off also.

Yes, teachers can take vacations, and so can parents. If a principal is going to say “our teachers will be teaching” he should have more respect for the parent body that to lie.

Yup. They are most definitely not teaching right up until break. They are administering tests or bs group projects to kill time or have subs. lol.

My entire grade-level subject area is giving a short quiz AND teaching an entire lesson tomorrow/Friday.

My son will be absent from 2nd period on Friday because he has a cardiologist appointment, so he spoke with his teacher about what he will be missing in his class. He is missing a quiz, notes on a new concept, and classwork related to that new concept, during which his teacher always pulls small groups for reteaching. That sounds like teaching is occurring.

As a secondary school teacher, I can 100% guarantee you that no secondary teacher is "killing time." There is no flexibility in the curriculum that would allow for "killing time." We can barely get through our curriculum as it is.

But some of you can have your classes taught by a sub all week so clearly the time pressure is not acute on all of you. Again, I don’t see anything wrong with this. But a principal shouldn’t be saying Teachers will be in the classroom when they will not.

As a teacher, I can assure you that there’s not more than one teacher out in the whole school for the entire week. I don’t even think there’s one teacher out for the entire week.

And yet there are parents on this thread with more than one.

There’s nothing wrong with teachers being out, but its quite a look to send a scolding email to parents when the people who work for you were on a plane last Friday.

There’s email wasn’t “scolding” and teachers didn’t send it. Move on. If you want to take a vacation, take a vacation. Nobody cares about this as much as you do.

You’re right, the teachers didn’t send it, but it makes commitments on their behalf.

And since you’re on page 37 it seems like you really care.

I call out nonsense where I see it. You've spent 37 pages whining about teachers because a principal sent a letter stated that attendance is important.

Write an angry letter to the principal and call out all those horrible teachers for taking their leave. Come back and let us know what response you get.

I think you’re mixing up posters. I’ve been clear this whole thread I think teachers should take their vacation and everyone else should too.

+1 the principal shouldn’t be calling out families for going on vacation…when they have plenty of teachers out…on vacation.

Why are teachers being held to the same standard as kids?

Because their principal sent an email saying they’d be in the classroom. You’ll have to ask the principal why he didn’t limit his statement to students.

Its a dumb email, disrespectful of parents and lying on behalf of teachers.

It wasn’t a dumb email, and (as a parent) I didn’t see it as disrespectful.

I’m also a teacher. Saying teachers are teaching wasn’t lying. They are! You think every class was filled with subs? Nonsense.

Put it to rest.

I’m sorry you’re not permitted to dictate to others how they feel about an email, or what they’re permitted to talk about. Do you try to exert this level of control another area areas of your life?

When I’m upset about something, I take action.

You seem very upset about that email, so much so that you’ve complained for many pages.

Have you emailed the principal? Have you called out those teachers for using their leave?

If not, then you’re simply spewing negativity into the universe. Do something or hush.

Again, literally no one needs to “hush” because you say so.

Well, then know your efforts are wasted. The vast majority of people will send their kids to school. The vast majority of teachers will be teaching. The Earth will keep spinning.

A couple families will pull their kids for vacations, in spite of the letter. A couple teachers will use the leave that is theirs to use. The Earth will keep on spinning.

And you’ll still be angry and unable to direct that anger in a constructive direction. No resolution for you.

And you’ll still be here, trying to be the hall monitor on an internet message board.