FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Anonymous wrote:Looking at the leaked map information posted on previous thread - what do people think are the chances of entire Wakefield Elementary School getting 5zoned to Poe and Annandale?

This is not on the BRAC agenda. Someone is screwing with you. There are no pre-planned maps. DCUM is good for fake news and angry Republicans. Don't take the bait.

Hate to inform you--but Democrats also want their kids to stay in their present schools.

I think that's what he's in-line with. The Republicans keep bringing up the DEI card as a motivation for rezoning and make that a plan to turn Fairfax Red. Langley/Herndon is an easy fire for them to light.

It's just bus routes and capacity.

It's documented that the Democrat-run school board began planning a county-wide boundary review/redraw due to the commitment to One Fairfax. The point of redoing Policy 8130 was to put a "One Fairfax Lens" on the way boundaries are drawn. "Equity" is at the center of this and it is unreasonable that the Democrats don't stand behind this principle. It is also wild that in a majority blue county anyone would think that the politicians acting according to their party's principles would make the people that voted for them because they are democrats change their votes to republican.

Here is the example - of the DEI card; This is the worse way to mix rich + poor kids is to bus them across county especially with Fairfax traffic. Please show your sources where the Dems explicitly stated that they are redistricting to mix rich + poor kids. Or is it one of those "they wont say that's what they are doing"?

The boundary rezoning has always been with capacity https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/opinions/more-space-for-fcps-students-policy-8130-for-redistricting-under-consideration/article_5e5f73fc-6634-11ef-9af9-b707b04d85e1.html The lone DEI officer is to maintain that one school isn't left behind somehow.

https://youtu.be/iM4AfGQqTWE?si=hwRTnBGDPN2HSoML&t=90

Stop it. That's a series of clips stitched together.

And people are welcome to watch the entire work sessions on youtube if they don't believe the conclusions reached in the video.

The 5+ year old video quoting people from 7+ years ago who aren’t even on the school board anymore? That video?

No wonder republicans around fairfax get wiped out every election. No one is buying it.

The biggest great fear of the Langley types is that the School Board has waited just long enough before executing on these plans to refine their message to focus on things like efficiency and transportation costs that will survive judicial scrutiny.

Because, really, there obviously is no right to attend economically segregated public schools with only rich kids, although that’s what they’ve gotten away with for decades. In their world, equity is a dirty word and diversity is for the little people.

There's Langley, and there's "Langley types."

And of course in tweedle Dee and tweedle dumb’s view it’s best to drive these types of families out of public school altogether.

You cut off your nose to spite your face. I feel like we see you two on the other side of the political spectrum at the national level. Cut from the same cloth though equally destructive to our communities.

Chill out.

You've got your undies twisted so far up your behind that it didn't even occur to you that this was in fact a sarcastic response from a Langley-zoned poster.

Pull that wedgie out and pour yourself a drink.

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People got used to FCPS adjusting school boundaries in ways that concentrated poverty at certain schools or widened demographic gaps between nearby schools. The fact this happened for over a decade with Democratic School Board members often leading the charged convinced the wealthier that this was the natural order of things. Now it looks like things may swing in the opposite direction, hence the predictable hissy fits from those used to always getting their way.

I don't know where this has happened. MT Vernon/W Potomac?

Can you give examples where this was deliberately done? I think it is more a case of changing demographics rather than deliberately doing this.

WSHS and Lewis

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Those stuck-up Langley folks really don’t like poor brown kids.

Your comment isn't witty or funny. Pretty classless, honestly. Parents not wanting their kids to be moved to a lower performing school is in no way a sign of racism. Whether the move is deemed logical or necessary in the end, it is perfectly reasonable for good, non-racist people to have the desire for their children to stay at (or be moved to) the better performing school.

You are throwing insults just because you aren't smart enough to make a post that actually contributes to the conversation.

Truth hurts. Schools don’t “perform.” Kids do.

There are plenty of high performing kids at Herndon, but Langley parents don’t want their kids around poor brown kids, even if it would shorten their bus rides.

7 creates an artificial geographic boundary between neighborhoods. Langley servers all side streets on one part and Herndon on the other part. The Langley buses already come down Georgetown Pike whereas the Herndon buses need to go out of their way to get to Georgetown Pike.

And Langley is on Georgetown Pike. People also work either in DC or Tysons which makes Langley convenient.

Both schools are under capacity - so why start a race war?

The first paragraph is factually incorrect. There are a number of areas on the “Herndon” side of Route 7 in Herndon, Reston, and Vienna that currently go to Langley.

Moving these or other areas to Herndon or other schools wouldn’t start a race war, unless you assume the Langley parents would launch one.

I'm talking about the boundary between Langley and Herndon and nope no Langley bus goes past 7 on Georgetown Pike. Move some (or a lot of) Herndon kids to Langley. Wouldn't that solve everyone's problems? Then I don't care - my commute and routine is in-tact. You can start a race war somewhere else.

There are Langley buses that go down Route 7.

No one is going to move more Herndon kids to Langley given Herndon's recent expansion. The converse is more likely given the growth in Tysons, which is closer to Langley than many other areas now at that school.

Your repeated references to a "race war" are telling. It says more about how Langley would react to redistricting than how anyone else would react.

Look at Chantilly and Centerville - they are way above capacity. Let's move Herndon kids. My position was on my commute and nothing else.

FCPS has committed to expanding Centreville, so no. No one cares about your commute.

Which won’t be done for over 5 years. These reviews are supposed to happen every 5. So it’s ok to leave schools busting at the seams but move kids from under enrolled schools to just cover up test scores. Because that’s all this is about

Langley parents would rather ensure that Chantilly and Centreville get rezoned twice within five years than take a chance that they might get moved into Herndon once.

Chantilly has far more compact boundaries than Langley and they should be preserved as long as possible.

I don’t disagree with you. I just don’t see how leaving one of if not the most overcrowded school as is for something that will happen 5+ years down the road is ok if you’re moving kids from under enrolled schools to balance numbers. Chantilly was brought up by the school board multiple times at boundary meetings i went to (both for passing of 8130 and at boundary review meetings)

Once more: Chantilly population is dropping over next year's. No one at Chantilly is near Herndon boundary.

Chantilly is near Westfield. And Westfield is near Herndon.

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Anonymous wrote:Looking at the leaked map information posted on previous thread - what do people think are the chances of entire Wakefield Elementary School getting 5zoned to Poe and Annandale?

This is not on the BRAC agenda. Someone is screwing with you. There are no pre-planned maps. DCUM is good for fake news and angry Republicans. Don't take the bait.

Hate to inform you--but Democrats also want their kids to stay in their present schools.

I think that's what he's in-line with. The Republicans keep bringing up the DEI card as a motivation for rezoning and make that a plan to turn Fairfax Red. Langley/Herndon is an easy fire for them to light.

It's just bus routes and capacity.

It's documented that the Democrat-run school board began planning a county-wide boundary review/redraw due to the commitment to One Fairfax. The point of redoing Policy 8130 was to put a "One Fairfax Lens" on the way boundaries are drawn. "Equity" is at the center of this and it is unreasonable that the Democrats don't stand behind this principle. It is also wild that in a majority blue county anyone would think that the politicians acting according to their party's principles would make the people that voted for them because they are democrats change their votes to republican.

Here is the example - of the DEI card; This is the worse way to mix rich + poor kids is to bus them across county especially with Fairfax traffic. Please show your sources where the Dems explicitly stated that they are redistricting to mix rich + poor kids. Or is it one of those "they wont say that's what they are doing"?

The boundary rezoning has always been with capacity https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/opinions/more-space-for-fcps-students-policy-8130-for-redistricting-under-consideration/article_5e5f73fc-6634-11ef-9af9-b707b04d85e1.html The lone DEI officer is to maintain that one school isn't left behind somehow.

Maybe I’m not following you, but your post seems to attempt to make One Fairfax out to be a SES policy, rather than a racial equity policy. I get why you would want to make that argument, but it just isn’t accurate, if that is what you are trying to do.

If the boundary changes have always been about capacity, please inform us why the BRAC contains many special interest groups, including race-based special interest groups.

And can you also let us know why Mateo Dunne at the publicly-available October 8, 2024 meeting, around 4:02 indicated that he wanted the chief equity officer on certain committees because “One Fairfax”?

You all keep asserting that this isn’t equity-based redistricting and then we provide you with our receipts to show that it is.

Your receipts are - interest groups and a chief equity officer are present. This is circumstantial and not proof - they are there so no future complaints cannot be made such as: what you are implying. I'm looking for a document or meeting minutes that says that the boundary adjustment is about equity and not capacity. So far the meeting slides keep talking about capacity. And I hear the other side repeatedly say it's all about equity. Which is it? Show me the slides or meeting minutes.

Circumstantial and not proof? Wtf are you talking about? Look at policy 8130. At some point it’s less about you not seeing the evidence and more about you not wanting to believe it.

Items not in 8130: equity, race, or one fairfax.

Items in 8130: access to programming, proximity, capacity, transportation, minimizing disruption, minimizing transportation costs, aligning pyramids and eliminating split feeders, and supporting family involvement.

So, yes, I agree with what you said. “At some point it’s less about you not seeing evidence and more about you not wanting to believe it.”

Did you read “access to programming”? I’m guessing not?

Also, One Fairfax is policy for FCPS. They don’t need to cite to it in 8130.

Womp womp.

Per the Oxford dictionary:

“Equitable”: an adjective meaning fair and impartial.

You either don’t understand the English language, or you’re big mad that a public resource will be fairly distributed to everyone.

The school board can legally, and should, fairly distribute tax dollars to the schools and make sure to hire competent principals, teachers, staff, etc. They should make sure that all schools have textbooks, equipment and facilities in good repair, etc.

"rich" kids, white/asian kids, "rich" black kids, middle class hispanic kids, upper-class english language learners, middle class half persian/half german kids ---CHILDREN--are not a public resource to be distributed.

Your last paragraph may reflect your preferences, but it's not the law. School systems can and still do adjust school boundaries based on the economic characteristics of different neighborhoods.

People got used to FCPS adjusting school boundaries in ways that concentrated poverty at certain schools or widened demographic gaps between nearby schools. The fact this happened for over a decade with Democratic School Board members often leading the charged convinced the wealthier that this was the natural order of things. Now it looks like things may swing in the opposite direction, hence the predictable hissy fits from those used to always getting their way.

This seems like the Republican view - the lines were drawn under Republican rule. The whole equity thing came about when people complained that the rich kids were getting tutors for classes and tests. The idea was to give help to anyone that wanted it no one would get ahead simply because they had money in fcps anyways. Somehow this became a rally cry and spread fear, division, and mis-information. Agree or disagree - equity is to give everyone the same opportunity. Equity is not churni a melting pot.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Those stuck-up Langley folks really don’t like poor brown kids.

Your comment isn't witty or funny. Pretty classless, honestly. Parents not wanting their kids to be moved to a lower performing school is in no way a sign of racism. Whether the move is deemed logical or necessary in the end, it is perfectly reasonable for good, non-racist people to have the desire for their children to stay at (or be moved to) the better performing school.

You are throwing insults just because you aren't smart enough to make a post that actually contributes to the conversation.

Truth hurts. Schools don’t “perform.” Kids do.

There are plenty of high performing kids at Herndon, but Langley parents don’t want their kids around poor brown kids, even if it would shorten their bus rides.

7 creates an artificial geographic boundary between neighborhoods. Langley servers all side streets on one part and Herndon on the other part. The Langley buses already come down Georgetown Pike whereas the Herndon buses need to go out of their way to get to Georgetown Pike.

And Langley is on Georgetown Pike. People also work either in DC or Tysons which makes Langley convenient.

Both schools are under capacity - so why start a race war?

The first paragraph is factually incorrect. There are a number of areas on the “Herndon” side of Route 7 in Herndon, Reston, and Vienna that currently go to Langley.

Moving these or other areas to Herndon or other schools wouldn’t start a race war, unless you assume the Langley parents would launch one.

I'm talking about the boundary between Langley and Herndon and nope no Langley bus goes past 7 on Georgetown Pike. Move some (or a lot of) Herndon kids to Langley. Wouldn't that solve everyone's problems? Then I don't care - my commute and routine is in-tact. You can start a race war somewhere else.

There are Langley buses that go down Route 7.

No one is going to move more Herndon kids to Langley given Herndon's recent expansion. The converse is more likely given the growth in Tysons, which is closer to Langley than many other areas now at that school.

Your repeated references to a "race war" are telling. It says more about how Langley would react to redistricting than how anyone else would react.

Look at Chantilly and Centerville - they are way above capacity. Let's move Herndon kids. My position was on my commute and nothing else.

FCPS has committed to expanding Centreville, so no. No one cares about your commute.

Which won’t be done for over 5 years. These reviews are supposed to happen every 5. So it’s ok to leave schools busting at the seams but move kids from under enrolled schools to just cover up test scores. Because that’s all this is about

Langley parents would rather ensure that Chantilly and Centreville get rezoned twice within five years than take a chance that they might get moved into Herndon once.

Chantilly has far more compact boundaries than Langley and they should be preserved as long as possible.

I don’t disagree with you. I just don’t see how leaving one of if not the most overcrowded school as is for something that will happen 5+ years down the road is ok if you’re moving kids from under enrolled schools to balance numbers. Chantilly was brought up by the school board multiple times at boundary meetings i went to (both for passing of 8130 and at boundary review meetings)

Once more: Chantilly population is dropping over next year's. No one at Chantilly is near Herndon boundary.

Chantilly is near Westfield. And Westfield is near Herndon.

The neighborhoods off of Lees Corner / Springhaven Drive go to Chantilly (via Lees Corner ES and Franklin). They could easily go to Westfields or Herndon.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Those stuck-up Langley folks really don’t like poor brown kids.

Your comment isn't witty or funny. Pretty classless, honestly. Parents not wanting their kids to be moved to a lower performing school is in no way a sign of racism. Whether the move is deemed logical or necessary in the end, it is perfectly reasonable for good, non-racist people to have the desire for their children to stay at (or be moved to) the better performing school.

You are throwing insults just because you aren't smart enough to make a post that actually contributes to the conversation.

Truth hurts. Schools don’t “perform.” Kids do.

There are plenty of high performing kids at Herndon, but Langley parents don’t want their kids around poor brown kids, even if it would shorten their bus rides.

7 creates an artificial geographic boundary between neighborhoods. Langley servers all side streets on one part and Herndon on the other part. The Langley buses already come down Georgetown Pike whereas the Herndon buses need to go out of their way to get to Georgetown Pike.

And Langley is on Georgetown Pike. People also work either in DC or Tysons which makes Langley convenient.

Both schools are under capacity - so why start a race war?

The first paragraph is factually incorrect. There are a number of areas on the “Herndon” side of Route 7 in Herndon, Reston, and Vienna that currently go to Langley.

Moving these or other areas to Herndon or other schools wouldn’t start a race war, unless you assume the Langley parents would launch one.

I'm talking about the boundary between Langley and Herndon and nope no Langley bus goes past 7 on Georgetown Pike. Move some (or a lot of) Herndon kids to Langley. Wouldn't that solve everyone's problems? Then I don't care - my commute and routine is in-tact. You can start a race war somewhere else.

There are Langley buses that go down Route 7.

No one is going to move more Herndon kids to Langley given Herndon's recent expansion. The converse is more likely given the growth in Tysons, which is closer to Langley than many other areas now at that school.

Your repeated references to a "race war" are telling. It says more about how Langley would react to redistricting than how anyone else would react.

Look at Chantilly and Centerville - they are way above capacity. Let's move Herndon kids. My position was on my commute and nothing else.

FCPS has committed to expanding Centreville, so no. No one cares about your commute.

Which won’t be done for over 5 years. These reviews are supposed to happen every 5. So it’s ok to leave schools busting at the seams but move kids from under enrolled schools to just cover up test scores. Because that’s all this is about

Langley parents would rather ensure that Chantilly and Centreville get rezoned twice within five years than take a chance that they might get moved into Herndon once.

Chantilly has far more compact boundaries than Langley and they should be preserved as long as possible.

I don’t disagree with you. I just don’t see how leaving one of if not the most overcrowded school as is for something that will happen 5+ years down the road is ok if you’re moving kids from under enrolled schools to balance numbers. Chantilly was brought up by the school board multiple times at boundary meetings i went to (both for passing of 8130 and at boundary review meetings)

Once more: Chantilly population is dropping over next year's. No one at Chantilly is near Herndon boundary.

Chantilly is near Westfield. And Westfield is near Herndon.

Chantilly does not need to lose anyone. The population is dropping. And, there are three high school boundaries between Chantilly High and Herndon.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Those stuck-up Langley folks really don’t like poor brown kids.

Your comment isn't witty or funny. Pretty classless, honestly. Parents not wanting their kids to be moved to a lower performing school is in no way a sign of racism. Whether the move is deemed logical or necessary in the end, it is perfectly reasonable for good, non-racist people to have the desire for their children to stay at (or be moved to) the better performing school.

You are throwing insults just because you aren't smart enough to make a post that actually contributes to the conversation.

Truth hurts. Schools don’t “perform.” Kids do.

There are plenty of high performing kids at Herndon, but Langley parents don’t want their kids around poor brown kids, even if it would shorten their bus rides.

7 creates an artificial geographic boundary between neighborhoods. Langley servers all side streets on one part and Herndon on the other part. The Langley buses already come down Georgetown Pike whereas the Herndon buses need to go out of their way to get to Georgetown Pike.

And Langley is on Georgetown Pike. People also work either in DC or Tysons which makes Langley convenient.

Both schools are under capacity - so why start a race war?

The first paragraph is factually incorrect. There are a number of areas on the “Herndon” side of Route 7 in Herndon, Reston, and Vienna that currently go to Langley.

Moving these or other areas to Herndon or other schools wouldn’t start a race war, unless you assume the Langley parents would launch one.

I'm talking about the boundary between Langley and Herndon and nope no Langley bus goes past 7 on Georgetown Pike. Move some (or a lot of) Herndon kids to Langley. Wouldn't that solve everyone's problems? Then I don't care - my commute and routine is in-tact. You can start a race war somewhere else.

There are Langley buses that go down Route 7.

No one is going to move more Herndon kids to Langley given Herndon's recent expansion. The converse is more likely given the growth in Tysons, which is closer to Langley than many other areas now at that school.

Your repeated references to a "race war" are telling. It says more about how Langley would react to redistricting than how anyone else would react.

Look at Chantilly and Centerville - they are way above capacity. Let's move Herndon kids. My position was on my commute and nothing else.

FCPS has committed to expanding Centreville, so no. No one cares about your commute.

Which won’t be done for over 5 years. These reviews are supposed to happen every 5. So it’s ok to leave schools busting at the seams but move kids from under enrolled schools to just cover up test scores. Because that’s all this is about

Langley parents would rather ensure that Chantilly and Centreville get rezoned twice within five years than take a chance that they might get moved into Herndon once.

Chantilly has far more compact boundaries than Langley and they should be preserved as long as possible.

I don’t disagree with you. I just don’t see how leaving one of if not the most overcrowded school as is for something that will happen 5+ years down the road is ok if you’re moving kids from under enrolled schools to balance numbers. Chantilly was brought up by the school board multiple times at boundary meetings i went to (both for passing of 8130 and at boundary review meetings)

Once more: Chantilly population is dropping over next year's. No one at Chantilly is near Herndon boundary.

Chantilly is near Westfield. And Westfield is near Herndon.

The neighborhoods off of Lees Corner / Springhaven Drive go to Chantilly (via Lees Corner ES and Franklin). They could easily go to Westfields or Herndon.

I don't think you are familiar with that area. They are five minutes from Chantilly. Herndon would likely be 30 minutes at rush hour. There are a lot of Chantilly students much closer to Westfield.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Those stuck-up Langley folks really don’t like poor brown kids.

Your comment isn't witty or funny. Pretty classless, honestly. Parents not wanting their kids to be moved to a lower performing school is in no way a sign of racism. Whether the move is deemed logical or necessary in the end, it is perfectly reasonable for good, non-racist people to have the desire for their children to stay at (or be moved to) the better performing school.

You are throwing insults just because you aren't smart enough to make a post that actually contributes to the conversation.

Truth hurts. Schools don’t “perform.” Kids do.

There are plenty of high performing kids at Herndon, but Langley parents don’t want their kids around poor brown kids, even if it would shorten their bus rides.

7 creates an artificial geographic boundary between neighborhoods. Langley servers all side streets on one part and Herndon on the other part. The Langley buses already come down Georgetown Pike whereas the Herndon buses need to go out of their way to get to Georgetown Pike.

And Langley is on Georgetown Pike. People also work either in DC or Tysons which makes Langley convenient.

Both schools are under capacity - so why start a race war?

The first paragraph is factually incorrect. There are a number of areas on the “Herndon” side of Route 7 in Herndon, Reston, and Vienna that currently go to Langley.

Moving these or other areas to Herndon or other schools wouldn’t start a race war, unless you assume the Langley parents would launch one.

I'm talking about the boundary between Langley and Herndon and nope no Langley bus goes past 7 on Georgetown Pike. Move some (or a lot of) Herndon kids to Langley. Wouldn't that solve everyone's problems? Then I don't care - my commute and routine is in-tact. You can start a race war somewhere else.

There are Langley buses that go down Route 7.

No one is going to move more Herndon kids to Langley given Herndon's recent expansion. The converse is more likely given the growth in Tysons, which is closer to Langley than many other areas now at that school.

Your repeated references to a "race war" are telling. It says more about how Langley would react to redistricting than how anyone else would react.

Look at Chantilly and Centerville - they are way above capacity. Let's move Herndon kids. My position was on my commute and nothing else.

FCPS has committed to expanding Centreville, so no. No one cares about your commute.

Which won’t be done for over 5 years. These reviews are supposed to happen every 5. So it’s ok to leave schools busting at the seams but move kids from under enrolled schools to just cover up test scores. Because that’s all this is about

Langley parents would rather ensure that Chantilly and Centreville get rezoned twice within five years than take a chance that they might get moved into Herndon once.

Chantilly has far more compact boundaries than Langley and they should be preserved as long as possible.

DP. Is it just you who has this obsession with Langley, or are there other posters who are equally rude? You know there are parents from schools all over FCPS (WSHS, Lewis, McLean, etc.) who are ALSO concerned about boundaries? If you continue to invoke "Langley" in all of your rants, I guess it'll be time to report you as a troll.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Those stuck-up Langley folks really don’t like poor brown kids.

Your comment isn't witty or funny. Pretty classless, honestly. Parents not wanting their kids to be moved to a lower performing school is in no way a sign of racism. Whether the move is deemed logical or necessary in the end, it is perfectly reasonable for good, non-racist people to have the desire for their children to stay at (or be moved to) the better performing school.

You are throwing insults just because you aren't smart enough to make a post that actually contributes to the conversation.

Truth hurts. Schools don’t “perform.” Kids do.

There are plenty of high performing kids at Herndon, but Langley parents don’t want their kids around poor brown kids, even if it would shorten their bus rides.

7 creates an artificial geographic boundary between neighborhoods. Langley servers all side streets on one part and Herndon on the other part. The Langley buses already come down Georgetown Pike whereas the Herndon buses need to go out of their way to get to Georgetown Pike.

And Langley is on Georgetown Pike. People also work either in DC or Tysons which makes Langley convenient.

Both schools are under capacity - so why start a race war?

The first paragraph is factually incorrect. There are a number of areas on the “Herndon” side of Route 7 in Herndon, Reston, and Vienna that currently go to Langley.

Moving these or other areas to Herndon or other schools wouldn’t start a race war, unless you assume the Langley parents would launch one.

I'm talking about the boundary between Langley and Herndon and nope no Langley bus goes past 7 on Georgetown Pike. Move some (or a lot of) Herndon kids to Langley. Wouldn't that solve everyone's problems? Then I don't care - my commute and routine is in-tact. You can start a race war somewhere else.

There are Langley buses that go down Route 7.

No one is going to move more Herndon kids to Langley given Herndon's recent expansion. The converse is more likely given the growth in Tysons, which is closer to Langley than many other areas now at that school.

Your repeated references to a "race war" are telling. It says more about how Langley would react to redistricting than how anyone else would react.

Look at Chantilly and Centerville - they are way above capacity. Let's move Herndon kids. My position was on my commute and nothing else.

FCPS has committed to expanding Centreville, so no. No one cares about your commute.

Which won’t be done for over 5 years. These reviews are supposed to happen every 5. So it’s ok to leave schools busting at the seams but move kids from under enrolled schools to just cover up test scores. Because that’s all this is about

Langley parents would rather ensure that Chantilly and Centreville get rezoned twice within five years than take a chance that they might get moved into Herndon once.

Chantilly has far more compact boundaries than Langley and they should be preserved as long as possible.

I don’t disagree with you. I just don’t see how leaving one of if not the most overcrowded school as is for something that will happen 5+ years down the road is ok if you’re moving kids from under enrolled schools to balance numbers. Chantilly was brought up by the school board multiple times at boundary meetings i went to (both for passing of 8130 and at boundary review meetings)

Once more: Chantilly population is dropping over next year's. No one at Chantilly is near Herndon boundary.

Chantilly is near Westfield. And Westfield is near Herndon.

The neighborhoods off of Lees Corner / Springhaven Drive go to Chantilly (via Lees Corner ES and Franklin). They could easily go to Westfields or Herndon.

I don't think you are familiar with that area. They are five minutes from Chantilly. Herndon would likely be 30 minutes at rush hour. There are a lot of Chantilly students much closer to Westfield.

Well, I drive it every day. Takes me about 15 minutes at rush hour, maybe 20 to come home around 5 p.m. Seems it shouldn't be that long at 3 p.m.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Those stuck-up Langley folks really don’t like poor brown kids.

Your comment isn't witty or funny. Pretty classless, honestly. Parents not wanting their kids to be moved to a lower performing school is in no way a sign of racism. Whether the move is deemed logical or necessary in the end, it is perfectly reasonable for good, non-racist people to have the desire for their children to stay at (or be moved to) the better performing school.

You are throwing insults just because you aren't smart enough to make a post that actually contributes to the conversation.

Don't feed the troll.

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Better yet, report the troll. Every time.
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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Those stuck-up Langley folks really don’t like poor brown kids.

Your comment isn't witty or funny. Pretty classless, honestly. Parents not wanting their kids to be moved to a lower performing school is in no way a sign of racism. Whether the move is deemed logical or necessary in the end, it is perfectly reasonable for good, non-racist people to have the desire for their children to stay at (or be moved to) the better performing school.

You are throwing insults just because you aren't smart enough to make a post that actually contributes to the conversation.

Truth hurts. Schools don’t “perform.” Kids do.

There are plenty of high performing kids at Herndon, but Langley parents don’t want their kids around poor brown kids, even if it would shorten their bus rides.

7 creates an artificial geographic boundary between neighborhoods. Langley servers all side streets on one part and Herndon on the other part. The Langley buses already come down Georgetown Pike whereas the Herndon buses need to go out of their way to get to Georgetown Pike.

And Langley is on Georgetown Pike. People also work either in DC or Tysons which makes Langley convenient.

Both schools are under capacity - so why start a race war?

The first paragraph is factually incorrect. There are a number of areas on the “Herndon” side of Route 7 in Herndon, Reston, and Vienna that currently go to Langley.

Moving these or other areas to Herndon or other schools wouldn’t start a race war, unless you assume the Langley parents would launch one.

I'm talking about the boundary between Langley and Herndon and nope no Langley bus goes past 7 on Georgetown Pike. Move some (or a lot of) Herndon kids to Langley. Wouldn't that solve everyone's problems? Then I don't care - my commute and routine is in-tact. You can start a race war somewhere else.

There are Langley buses that go down Route 7.

No one is going to move more Herndon kids to Langley given Herndon's recent expansion. The converse is more likely given the growth in Tysons, which is closer to Langley than many other areas now at that school.

Your repeated references to a "race war" are telling. It says more about how Langley would react to redistricting than how anyone else would react.

Look at Chantilly and Centerville - they are way above capacity. Let's move Herndon kids. My position was on my commute and nothing else.

FCPS has committed to expanding Centreville, so no. No one cares about your commute.

Which won’t be done for over 5 years. These reviews are supposed to happen every 5. So it’s ok to leave schools busting at the seams but move kids from under enrolled schools to just cover up test scores. Because that’s all this is about

Langley parents would rather ensure that Chantilly and Centreville get rezoned twice within five years than take a chance that they might get moved into Herndon once.

Chantilly has far more compact boundaries than Langley and they should be preserved as long as possible.

I don’t disagree with you. I just don’t see how leaving one of if not the most overcrowded school as is for something that will happen 5+ years down the road is ok if you’re moving kids from under enrolled schools to balance numbers. Chantilly was brought up by the school board multiple times at boundary meetings i went to (both for passing of 8130 and at boundary review meetings)

Once more: Chantilly population is dropping over next year's. No one at Chantilly is near Herndon boundary.

Chantilly is near Westfield. And Westfield is near Herndon.

The neighborhoods off of Lees Corner / Springhaven Drive go to Chantilly (via Lees Corner ES and Franklin). They could easily go to Westfields or Herndon.

I don't think you are familiar with that area. They are five minutes from Chantilly. Herndon would likely be 30 minutes at rush hour. There are a lot of Chantilly students much closer to Westfield.

Well, I drive it every day. Takes me about 15 minutes at rush hour, maybe 20 to come home around 5 p.m. Seems it shouldn't be that long at 3 p.m.

More concerned about the morning commute. Traffic going towards DTR and then through Herndon. Lots longer. Chantilly is close and if your kid has after school activities, pick up is easier--or it is a healthy walk.

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I was just looking at different boundaries on the CIP. Not familiar with this area but why is Katherine Johnson’s boundaries split with frost? It seems like rocky run is close to Katherine Johnson’s boundary and much lower enrollment than KJ. Do they all go to the same HS?

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I see this thread is still alive and well 😄

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Those stuck-up Langley folks really don’t like poor brown kids.

Your comment isn't witty or funny. Pretty classless, honestly. Parents not wanting their kids to be moved to a lower performing school is in no way a sign of racism. Whether the move is deemed logical or necessary in the end, it is perfectly reasonable for good, non-racist people to have the desire for their children to stay at (or be moved to) the better performing school.

You are throwing insults just because you aren't smart enough to make a post that actually contributes to the conversation.

Truth hurts. Schools don’t “perform.” Kids do.

There are plenty of high performing kids at Herndon, but Langley parents don’t want their kids around poor brown kids, even if it would shorten their bus rides.

7 creates an artificial geographic boundary between neighborhoods. Langley servers all side streets on one part and Herndon on the other part. The Langley buses already come down Georgetown Pike whereas the Herndon buses need to go out of their way to get to Georgetown Pike.

And Langley is on Georgetown Pike. People also work either in DC or Tysons which makes Langley convenient.

Both schools are under capacity - so why start a race war?

The first paragraph is factually incorrect. There are a number of areas on the “Herndon” side of Route 7 in Herndon, Reston, and Vienna that currently go to Langley.

Moving these or other areas to Herndon or other schools wouldn’t start a race war, unless you assume the Langley parents would launch one.

I'm talking about the boundary between Langley and Herndon and nope no Langley bus goes past 7 on Georgetown Pike. Move some (or a lot of) Herndon kids to Langley. Wouldn't that solve everyone's problems? Then I don't care - my commute and routine is in-tact. You can start a race war somewhere else.

There are Langley buses that go down Route 7.

No one is going to move more Herndon kids to Langley given Herndon's recent expansion. The converse is more likely given the growth in Tysons, which is closer to Langley than many other areas now at that school.

Your repeated references to a "race war" are telling. It says more about how Langley would react to redistricting than how anyone else would react.

Look at Chantilly and Centerville - they are way above capacity. Let's move Herndon kids. My position was on my commute and nothing else.

FCPS has committed to expanding Centreville, so no. No one cares about your commute.

Which won’t be done for over 5 years. These reviews are supposed to happen every 5. So it’s ok to leave schools busting at the seams but move kids from under enrolled schools to just cover up test scores. Because that’s all this is about

Langley parents would rather ensure that Chantilly and Centreville get rezoned twice within five years than take a chance that they might get moved into Herndon once.

Chantilly has far more compact boundaries than Langley and they should be preserved as long as possible.

I don’t disagree with you. I just don’t see how leaving one of if not the most overcrowded school as is for something that will happen 5+ years down the road is ok if you’re moving kids from under enrolled schools to balance numbers. Chantilly was brought up by the school board multiple times at boundary meetings i went to (both for passing of 8130 and at boundary review meetings)

Once more: Chantilly population is dropping over next year's. No one at Chantilly is near Herndon boundary.

Chantilly is near Westfield. And Westfield is near Herndon.

Chantilly does not need to lose anyone. The population is dropping. And, there are three high school boundaries between Chantilly High and Herndon.

Exactly this. Makes no sense to move neighborhoods out of Chantilly now. Those who keep bringing it up seem to have ulterior motives.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Those stuck-up Langley folks really don’t like poor brown kids.

Your comment isn't witty or funny. Pretty classless, honestly. Parents not wanting their kids to be moved to a lower performing school is in no way a sign of racism. Whether the move is deemed logical or necessary in the end, it is perfectly reasonable for good, non-racist people to have the desire for their children to stay at (or be moved to) the better performing school.

You are throwing insults just because you aren't smart enough to make a post that actually contributes to the conversation.

Truth hurts. Schools don’t “perform.” Kids do.

There are plenty of high performing kids at Herndon, but Langley parents don’t want their kids around poor brown kids, even if it would shorten their bus rides.

7 creates an artificial geographic boundary between neighborhoods. Langley servers all side streets on one part and Herndon on the other part. The Langley buses already come down Georgetown Pike whereas the Herndon buses need to go out of their way to get to Georgetown Pike.

And Langley is on Georgetown Pike. People also work either in DC or Tysons which makes Langley convenient.

Both schools are under capacity - so why start a race war?

The first paragraph is factually incorrect. There are a number of areas on the “Herndon” side of Route 7 in Herndon, Reston, and Vienna that currently go to Langley.

Moving these or other areas to Herndon or other schools wouldn’t start a race war, unless you assume the Langley parents would launch one.

I'm talking about the boundary between Langley and Herndon and nope no Langley bus goes past 7 on Georgetown Pike. Move some (or a lot of) Herndon kids to Langley. Wouldn't that solve everyone's problems? Then I don't care - my commute and routine is in-tact. You can start a race war somewhere else.

There are Langley buses that go down Route 7.

No one is going to move more Herndon kids to Langley given Herndon's recent expansion. The converse is more likely given the growth in Tysons, which is closer to Langley than many other areas now at that school.

Your repeated references to a "race war" are telling. It says more about how Langley would react to redistricting than how anyone else would react.

Look at Chantilly and Centerville - they are way above capacity. Let's move Herndon kids. My position was on my commute and nothing else.

FCPS has committed to expanding Centreville, so no. No one cares about your commute.

Which won’t be done for over 5 years. These reviews are supposed to happen every 5. So it’s ok to leave schools busting at the seams but move kids from under enrolled schools to just cover up test scores. Because that’s all this is about

Langley parents would rather ensure that Chantilly and Centreville get rezoned twice within five years than take a chance that they might get moved into Herndon once.

Chantilly has far more compact boundaries than Langley and they should be preserved as long as possible.

I don’t disagree with you. I just don’t see how leaving one of if not the most overcrowded school as is for something that will happen 5+ years down the road is ok if you’re moving kids from under enrolled schools to balance numbers. Chantilly was brought up by the school board multiple times at boundary meetings i went to (both for passing of 8130 and at boundary review meetings)

Once more: Chantilly population is dropping over next year's. No one at Chantilly is near Herndon boundary.

Chantilly is near Westfield. And Westfield is near Herndon.

The neighborhoods off of Lees Corner / Springhaven Drive go to Chantilly (via Lees Corner ES and Franklin). They could easily go to Westfields or Herndon.

I don't think you are familiar with that area. They are five minutes from Chantilly. Herndon would likely be 30 minutes at rush hour. There are a lot of Chantilly students much closer to Westfield.

Well, I drive it every day. Takes me about 15 minutes at rush hour, maybe 20 to come home around 5 p.m. Seems it shouldn't be that long at 3 p.m.

To Herndon HS? You must drive a helicopter.