Can brexit be undone?

Anonymous
I know it's going to take time to even start the process, and once it starts it will take two years. That's a long time. Could they go back on it? Say, if a new election were called, and labour won on a campaign to do a new referendum?
Anonymous
Can they have a new referendum and take it all back? Yes, I think so. Can they petition to join up again in 4 years or 10 years? Yes, I think so. Brussels will make lots of noise about it, but it would be crazy of them to say No to the UK (or to just Britain).
Anonymous
The majority of Brits voted to leave the EU, in a record turnout election.

Elections have consequences.
Anonymous
Really? You don't like how "the people" voted, so you have a re-vote?

Can we do that to?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Really? You don't like how "the people" voted, so you have a re-vote?

Can we do that to?


Not op, but the people seem to be having second thoughts. The already apparent consequence (Scotland and Ireland possibly leaving UK, pound losing value) are more than they anticipated. Of course the worse is yet to come.
jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:The majority of Brits voted to leave the EU, in a record turnout election.

Elections have consequences.


Apparently some voters were not aware of the consequences and now have buyers remorse. The fact that some of the Leave leaders are now taking back their promises, is adding to that. But, to respond to the OP's question, my understanding is that the referendum doesn't actually require anything. The government could simply decide not to withdraw if it wanted. Cameron has already pushed the invoking of Article 50 back to October and Boris Johnson is suggesting taking things slowly. At a minimum, the Government could request a vote by Parliament and Parliament could vote against leaving or vote to hold a second referendum. Some of the Leave leadership are acting like the dog who caught the car and they might be happy to find a way out.
Anonymous
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The majority of Brits voted to leave the EU, in a record turnout election.

Elections have consequences.


Apparently some voters were not aware of the consequences and now have buyers remorse. The fact that some of the Leave leaders are now taking back their promises, is adding to that. But, to respond to the OP's question, my understanding is that the referendum doesn't actually require anything. The government could simply decide not to withdraw if it wanted. Cameron has already pushed the invoking of Article 50 back to October and Boris Johnson is suggesting taking things slowly. At a minimum, the Government could request a vote by Parliament and Parliament could vote against leaving or vote to hold a second referendum. Some of the Leave leadership are acting like the dog who caught the car and they might be happy to find a way out.
Buyers remorse is exactly why it's critical that Trump voters understand that their primary vote reasoning cannot be because they dislike immigrants and building a wall. There is no doubt that a Trump presidency would cause world concern.

Now, many Brits are having remorse because there vote was solely based on the immigrant situation and no financial forethought what would happen with an economic secession. Trump voters need to think past the obsession with the Wall.
Anonymous
Legally the referendum has no consequences. Parliament is sovereign inthe UK. Politically it is kind of hard to ignore..
Anonymous
I was surprised that they didn't have some kind of two-thirds majority rule built in for a significant change like this, but it is what it is. Britain's exit will actually be easier than most other countries -- they kept their money out and never joined Schengen.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I know it's going to take time to even start the process, and once it starts it will take two years. That's a long time. Could they go back on it? Say, if a new election were called, and labour won on a campaign to do a new referendum?


Actually, it does not take time to start. the UK needs to declares that it intends to withdraw from the Union under article 50 of the Lisbon treaty, and this can just take days. the declaration triggers a countdown of two years. During this time the UK does not have a voice in EU's decisions and the UK and the EU can negotiate the terms of the separation and the terms of the future relationship between the UK and the EU, and these negotiations are likely to last several years. But under the treaty after two years from the art. 50 declaration of withdrawal the UK ceases to be a member regardless of whether negotiations are over.

the trick is that the idiots who promoted the vote now do not have the guts to face the consequences (now they suddenly realized that after all they will not have 350M a week for their health system after stopping giving money to the EU, and they probably know very well that the UK will not be able to have free access to the EU market and no immigration, and that any deal they will be able to get will be worse of what the YK had before), so nobody wants to declare the art. 50 withdrawal because that would trigger the two years period after which the UK is out. so Cameron is buying 4 months, both Farage and Johnson say that there is no rush, the UK can start negotiations now and then, maybe next year, declare the withdrawal. This strategy obviously does not sit well with the EU, that at this point wants a clear cut and as little uncertainty as possible in a very messy situation, and even less wants to give Farage-like parties in other EU countries the idea that you can pretend to leave and then somehow stay with all the advantages and no disadvantages. The head of the EU commission, and the foreign ministers of the EU six founding countries, said yesterday and today that Cameron should simply take note of the vote and declare the withdrawal as soon as next week.

People cannot say they did not understand what they were voting. if you read only Murdoch's tabloids then it's your fault when you get screwed.
Anonymous
They can though. They are voters. They can change their minds if they want.
Anonymous
Why do you want the bite reversed OP?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Really? You don't like how "the people" voted, so you have a re-vote?

Can we do that to?


Yup we do it every four years.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Really? You don't like how "the people" voted, so you have a re-vote?

Can we do that to?


Yup we do it every four years.


This was not an election, this was a referendum to leave the EU and people voted yes. I cant's see how the Brit's government can ignore the vote and fail to claim art 50. Once they do that, in two years they are out, they like it or not. The voters cannot simply vote to go back in, they need to reapply to the EU and the EU countries needs to vote to let them in. If some voters did not realize that a referendum like this was not exactly the place for a protest vote, too bad for them.
Anonymous
The EU already said the voters' voices should be respected and Britian should immediately start the process of withdrawing. I guess they don't want people doing test votes and if things work out leave and if things go south do a revote. I agree with them. I'm guessing the impact so far will make others think first.
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