Jesus Christ MLS
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Anonymous
| After so much COPA and EURO and then watching MLS, specifically, DC United and Houston MLS is such a joke |
Anonymous
| There is no hope for anything that equates to US and soccer. Other than the women's team which who knows how long that's going to last. As long As the rich kids and politiciAn of parents run youth soccer it's going to be shit for the future |
Anonymous
| Yah, the soccer does not compare. I actually stayed in a Toronto hotel with DC United. I was on the same floor as the players and regret not having my pic taking with them. Some major hubba hubba. |
Anonymous
| Italy is going to regret not taking Giovinco, though. |
Anonymous
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How can you compare MLS and Copa America? Or Eurocup? MLS is comprised of the best players that managed to get placed on teams in the US. This means they didn't get placed on teams in countries where soccer really pays (England, Spain, Italy, etc.).
Copa America and Eurocup draw on the best from each country. That's how you have Messi playing for Argentina and Ronaldo playing for Portugal. Without Ronaldo, watch Portugal's equivalent of MLS. They're not any better than DC United. Ecuador is doing great in Copa America. But their best players don't play for Ecuadorian clubs. They play for Barcelona, Manchester United, etc. |
Anonymous
This is just nonsense. Portugal's Primeira features teams such as Porto and Benfica that are both former European Champions and are always competitive in the Champions League. The business model for most Portuguese clubs to to scout the best South American, Portuguese and other European talent and blood them to sell on for higher fees and good profits. MLS has maybe five players in total that could compete at this level. The level of MLS is mid-table and lower of the English Championship. |
Anonymous
I made a mistake. It was the Chicago Fire that was at my hotel. I love the connection to the Great Fire of 1871. David Beckham was in the MLS for a bit. The NA league provides players, such as Beckham, the last kick of the can. |
Anonymous
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MLS does not have promotion/relegation, and this is a major reason why the level of play is generally not on par with other leagues throughout the world. In MLS, what's really at stake if you loose? And if it were open, just imagine the motivation to find and develop players, and to improve and compete, when your very existence and viability as a club depended on it. In the broader sense, these teams are not independent soccer clubs but rather franchises in MLS.
Wake up U.S. Take off the kid gloves. Unleash the full potetential of the U.S. player pool and create an open system with promotion/relegation. And then turbo-charge the new system by following existing FIFA rules for training compensation to youth clubs. |
Anonymous
Training compensation, yes. The rest of this is nonsense. Pro/rel is a symptom of a thriving soccer culture. Not the cause. The stakes in MLS are missing the playoffs. Without the threat of relegation, D.C. United was able to give a lot of time to younger players a couple of years ago. It paid off the next year with a good run. It's all fallen apart since then because United is lagging behind other MLS clubs in getting its stadium built (thanks, D.C.) and is still flushing a ton of money into rent at RFK. Pro/rel has pros and cons. The pros are that it adds a bit of interest farther down the pyramid. The cons are that the clubs end up losing a ton of money -- Aston Villa has laid off 500 employees. And most clubs in the current lower divisions here don't want to (or simply can't) move up. In fact, many have "self-relegated" from Division 2 to Division 3 or from the pro ranks to the amateur PDL. Much more sustainable. We're not to the point yet at which we could do this. But that's OK. Pro/rel doesn't magically make soccer better. If pro/rel and population were all that was required to have a great soccer league, China would dominate. It does not. And it doesn't necessarily make for more entertaining soccer. Teams threatened with relegation are more likely to play older players who know how to grind out results, not youngsters who have something interesting to offer. MLS has some bad games and good games. Like a lot of leagues. Even the mighty EPL has some games that are like watching paint dry -- often between a couple of clubs in mid-table or hovering above the relegation zone. You'll see a handful of former European stars, most of them coming over at an earlier age than they did in the past. Lothar Matthaus was in his upper 30s and finished by the time he came over for what he treated as a vacation. Thierry Henry and Robbie Keane have been much better. But you'll also see a lot of young stars. FC Dallas has built a tremendous academy. D.C. United's academy isn't bad -- Bill Hamid and Andy Najar are among the players who've come into the club via the academy. DeAndre Yedlin and Matt Miazga have moved from MLS academy to MLS first team to the EPL. |
Anonymous
| I tend to agree, OP. But I have to say, I watched a La Liga game when I was in Spain between Valencia and Majorca and it suuuuucked. I couldn't believe this was the same tier as Barca and Madrid. I don't think anything beats the EPL. |
Anonymous
| Is this a new musical that is coming to the Kennedy Center next year with Hamilton? |
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Anonymous
| How much of this is that the US has a TERRIBLE system for youth soccer that locks out low-income kids? |
Anonymous
Yes - you have to buy a load of MLS tickets to be eligible to buy the Hamilton tickets. |
Anonymous
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Relevant given the US loss and this discussion...
https://thesefootballtimes.co/2015/01/15/can-mls-produce-its-own-lionel-messi-no-it-cant/ |