Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

[Anonymous]

Times MTD will be granted, 100%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Times MTD will be granted, 100%

Yeah, no.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Regarding Flaa, it really does look like there's no connection between her and Baldoni's team. Barring some kind of smoking gun that hasn't been unearthed yet, I think the implication that she posted the interview back in August as part of a conspiracy is dead in the water.

That's said, I will say that I have severely soured on Flaa since she posted the interview. I was fully on her side when she posted it and still think Lively's behavior was pretty abhorrent. But it's pretty obvious at this point that Flaa just rides a gravy train of attaching herself to controversial celebrity topics and then milking them. The "JusticeforJonny" thing is gross (Depp was an abuser, sorry) and Flaa is STILL milking the Lively thing, since she obviously figured out her rather minor involvement in it could become a source of income. But she's not a real journalist. I tried watching one of her videos and it's just influencer drivel. I never had a problem with her posting that video but I've lost respect for her now that I know more about her.

Her quality as a journalism is totally irrelevant except to point out that the criticism of Bl was organic and the NYT shit the bed when it ran this story

Exactly.

I don’t see the BL and NYT defenders as posting organically and without particular motives. I have not made that specific suggestion ever before in either the locked thread or this one. At this point, I have serious doubts. Anyway.

A few podcasts have the audio of Ari Emmanuel on Freakanomics; someone leaked it and it included the insults of Baldoni and some extra stuff that makes him sound like a vengeful T. Rex. Powerful and pissy and a dinosaur.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Regarding Flaa, it really does look like there's no connection between her and Baldoni's team. Barring some kind of smoking gun that hasn't been unearthed yet, I think the implication that she posted the interview back in August as part of a conspiracy is dead in the water.

That's said, I will say that I have severely soured on Flaa since she posted the interview. I was fully on her side when she posted it and still think Lively's behavior was pretty abhorrent. But it's pretty obvious at this point that Flaa just rides a gravy train of attaching herself to controversial celebrity topics and then milking them. The "JusticeforJonny" thing is gross (Depp was an abuser, sorry) and Flaa is STILL milking the Lively thing, since she obviously figured out her rather minor involvement in it could become a source of income. But she's not a real journalist. I tried watching one of her videos and it's just influencer drivel. I never had a problem with her posting that video but I've lost respect for her now that I know more about her.

Her quality as a journalism is totally irrelevant except to point out that the criticism of Bl was organic and the NYT shit the bed when it ran this story

Exactly.

I don’t see the BL and NYT defenders as posting organically and without particular motives. I have not made that specific suggestion ever before in either the locked thread or this one. At this point, I have serious doubts. Anyway.

A few podcasts have the audio of Ari Emmanuel on Freakanomics; someone leaked it and it included the insults of Baldoni and some extra stuff that makes him sound like a vengeful T. Rex. Powerful and pissy and a dinosaur.

I don't really get why the Ari stuff matters. He's not a party to the lawsuit. No one has alleged he did anything wrong? It's no surprise that Lively and Reynolds have their defenders -- they've been in the business a long time. I just don't get why it matters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Times MTD will be granted, 100%

Wishful thinking. On what basis? Curious to hear your analysis

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Regarding Flaa, it really does look like there's no connection between her and Baldoni's team. Barring some kind of smoking gun that hasn't been unearthed yet, I think the implication that she posted the interview back in August as part of a conspiracy is dead in the water.

That's said, I will say that I have severely soured on Flaa since she posted the interview. I was fully on her side when she posted it and still think Lively's behavior was pretty abhorrent. But it's pretty obvious at this point that Flaa just rides a gravy train of attaching herself to controversial celebrity topics and then milking them. The "JusticeforJonny" thing is gross (Depp was an abuser, sorry) and Flaa is STILL milking the Lively thing, since she obviously figured out her rather minor involvement in it could become a source of income. But she's not a real journalist. I tried watching one of her videos and it's just influencer drivel. I never had a problem with her posting that video but I've lost respect for her now that I know more about her.

Her quality as a journalism is totally irrelevant except to point out that the criticism of Bl was organic and the NYT shit the bed when it ran this story

Exactly.

I don’t see the BL and NYT defenders as posting organically and without particular motives. I have not made that specific suggestion ever before in either the locked thread or this one. At this point, I have serious doubts. Anyway.

A few podcasts have the audio of Ari Emmanuel on Freakanomics; someone leaked it and it included the insults of Baldoni and some extra stuff that makes him sound like a vengeful T. Rex. Powerful and pissy and a dinosaur.

I don't really get why the Ari stuff matters. He's not a party to the lawsuit. No one has alleged he did anything wrong? It's no surprise that Lively and Reynolds have their defenders -- they've been in the business a long time. I just don't get why it matters.

DAMAGES

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Regarding Flaa, it really does look like there's no connection between her and Baldoni's team. Barring some kind of smoking gun that hasn't been unearthed yet, I think the implication that she posted the interview back in August as part of a conspiracy is dead in the water.

That's said, I will say that I have severely soured on Flaa since she posted the interview. I was fully on her side when she posted it and still think Lively's behavior was pretty abhorrent. But it's pretty obvious at this point that Flaa just rides a gravy train of attaching herself to controversial celebrity topics and then milking them. The "JusticeforJonny" thing is gross (Depp was an abuser, sorry) and Flaa is STILL milking the Lively thing, since she obviously figured out her rather minor involvement in it could become a source of income. But she's not a real journalist. I tried watching one of her videos and it's just influencer drivel. I never had a problem with her posting that video but I've lost respect for her now that I know more about her.

Her quality as a journalism is totally irrelevant except to point out that the criticism of Bl was organic and the NYT shit the bed when it ran this story

Exactly.

I don’t see the BL and NYT defenders as posting organically and without particular motives. I have not made that specific suggestion ever before in either the locked thread or this one. At this point, I have serious doubts. Anyway.

A few podcasts have the audio of Ari Emmanuel on Freakanomics; someone leaked it and it included the insults of Baldoni and some extra stuff that makes him sound like a vengeful T. Rex. Powerful and pissy and a dinosaur.

I don't really get why the Ari stuff matters. He's not a party to the lawsuit. No one has alleged he did anything wrong? It's no surprise that Lively and Reynolds have their defenders -- they've been in the business a long time. I just don't get why it matters.

DAMAGES

Could you expand? Again, Ari isn't being sued. He's allowed to have an opinion. How does this have anything to do with damages?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Regarding Flaa, it really does look like there's no connection between her and Baldoni's team. Barring some kind of smoking gun that hasn't been unearthed yet, I think the implication that she posted the interview back in August as part of a conspiracy is dead in the water.

That's said, I will say that I have severely soured on Flaa since she posted the interview. I was fully on her side when she posted it and still think Lively's behavior was pretty abhorrent. But it's pretty obvious at this point that Flaa just rides a gravy train of attaching herself to controversial celebrity topics and then milking them. The "JusticeforJonny" thing is gross (Depp was an abuser, sorry) and Flaa is STILL milking the Lively thing, since she obviously figured out her rather minor involvement in it could become a source of income. But she's not a real journalist. I tried watching one of her videos and it's just influencer drivel. I never had a problem with her posting that video but I've lost respect for her now that I know more about her.

Her quality as a journalism is totally irrelevant except to point out that the criticism of Bl was organic and the NYT shit the bed when it ran this story

Exactly.

I don’t see the BL and NYT defenders as posting organically and without particular motives. I have not made that specific suggestion ever before in either the locked thread or this one. At this point, I have serious doubts. Anyway.

A few podcasts have the audio of Ari Emmanuel on Freakanomics; someone leaked it and it included the insults of Baldoni and some extra stuff that makes him sound like a vengeful T. Rex. Powerful and pissy and a dinosaur.

I don't really get why the Ari stuff matters. He's not a party to the lawsuit. No one has alleged he did anything wrong? It's no surprise that Lively and Reynolds have their defenders -- they've been in the business a long time. I just don't get why it matters.

DAMAGES

Could you expand? Again, Ari isn't being sued. He's allowed to have an opinion. How does this have anything to do with damages?

Damages in Baldonis claims against the Lively side, including the NYT. He was defamed by them and suffered harm, including but not limited to being dumped by his agency

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Times MTD will be granted, 100%

Wishful thinking. On what basis? Curious to hear your analysis

the basis identified in the motion--fair report privilege, the only identified defamatory statement ("smear campaign") is opinion. There's a high bar to state a defamation claim by a public figure and the complaint against the times aint it. It was filed just to get the counter narrative out there ASAP and on that basis it was a success. As a legal claim against the NYT not so much (I doubt they care much)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Times MTD will be granted, 100%

Wishful thinking. On what basis? Curious to hear your analysis

the basis identified in the motion--fair report privilege, the only identified defamatory statement ("smear campaign") is opinion. There's a high bar to state a defamation claim by a public figure and the complaint against the times aint it. It was filed just to get the counter narrative out there ASAP and on that basis it was a success. As a legal claim against the NYT not so much (I doubt they care much)

Unfortunately the NYT lost their best defense- FR- by making the article read more like a metoo expose, bringing in Flaa and also alleging they’d gone through hundreds of text messages etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Regarding Flaa, it really does look like there's no connection between her and Baldoni's team. Barring some kind of smoking gun that hasn't been unearthed yet, I think the implication that she posted the interview back in August as part of a conspiracy is dead in the water.

That's said, I will say that I have severely soured on Flaa since she posted the interview. I was fully on her side when she posted it and still think Lively's behavior was pretty abhorrent. But it's pretty obvious at this point that Flaa just rides a gravy train of attaching herself to controversial celebrity topics and then milking them. The "JusticeforJonny" thing is gross (Depp was an abuser, sorry) and Flaa is STILL milking the Lively thing, since she obviously figured out her rather minor involvement in it could become a source of income. But she's not a real journalist. I tried watching one of her videos and it's just influencer drivel. I never had a problem with her posting that video but I've lost respect for her now that I know more about her.

Her quality as a journalism is totally irrelevant except to point out that the criticism of Bl was organic and the NYT shit the bed when it ran this story

Exactly.

I don’t see the BL and NYT defenders as posting organically and without particular motives. I have not made that specific suggestion ever before in either the locked thread or this one. At this point, I have serious doubts. Anyway.

A few podcasts have the audio of Ari Emmanuel on Freakanomics; someone leaked it and it included the insults of Baldoni and some extra stuff that makes him sound like a vengeful T. Rex. Powerful and pissy and a dinosaur.

I don't really get why the Ari stuff matters. He's not a party to the lawsuit. No one has alleged he did anything wrong? It's no surprise that Lively and Reynolds have their defenders -- they've been in the business a long time. I just don't get why it matters.

DAMAGES

Could you expand? Again, Ari isn't being sued. He's allowed to have an opinion. How does this have anything to do with damages?

Damages in Baldonis claims against the Lively side, including the NYT. He was defamed by them and suffered harm, including but not limited to being dumped by his agency

But doesn't what Ari said actually negate that? Ari makes it sound like he barely knew who Baldoni was before all this, not like a valued client. It sounds like Ari would have taken Lively/Reynolds side regardless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Regarding Flaa, it really does look like there's no connection between her and Baldoni's team. Barring some kind of smoking gun that hasn't been unearthed yet, I think the implication that she posted the interview back in August as part of a conspiracy is dead in the water.

That's said, I will say that I have severely soured on Flaa since she posted the interview. I was fully on her side when she posted it and still think Lively's behavior was pretty abhorrent. But it's pretty obvious at this point that Flaa just rides a gravy train of attaching herself to controversial celebrity topics and then milking them. The "JusticeforJonny" thing is gross (Depp was an abuser, sorry) and Flaa is STILL milking the Lively thing, since she obviously figured out her rather minor involvement in it could become a source of income. But she's not a real journalist. I tried watching one of her videos and it's just influencer drivel. I never had a problem with her posting that video but I've lost respect for her now that I know more about her.

Her quality as a journalism is totally irrelevant except to point out that the criticism of Bl was organic and the NYT shit the bed when it ran this story

Exactly.

I don’t see the BL and NYT defenders as posting organically and without particular motives. I have not made that specific suggestion ever before in either the locked thread or this one. At this point, I have serious doubts. Anyway.

A few podcasts have the audio of Ari Emmanuel on Freakanomics; someone leaked it and it included the insults of Baldoni and some extra stuff that makes him sound like a vengeful T. Rex. Powerful and pissy and a dinosaur.

I don't really get why the Ari stuff matters. He's not a party to the lawsuit. No one has alleged he did anything wrong? It's no surprise that Lively and Reynolds have their defenders -- they've been in the business a long time. I just don't get why it matters.

lol. Why does retaliation and making it known a talent is persona non grata IE blackballing someone in Hollywood matter? It’s totally no big deal. And it’s so not a big deal, they moved heaven and earth to make the podcast disappear!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Regarding Flaa, it really does look like there's no connection between her and Baldoni's team. Barring some kind of smoking gun that hasn't been unearthed yet, I think the implication that she posted the interview back in August as part of a conspiracy is dead in the water.

That's said, I will say that I have severely soured on Flaa since she posted the interview. I was fully on her side when she posted it and still think Lively's behavior was pretty abhorrent. But it's pretty obvious at this point that Flaa just rides a gravy train of attaching herself to controversial celebrity topics and then milking them. The "JusticeforJonny" thing is gross (Depp was an abuser, sorry) and Flaa is STILL milking the Lively thing, since she obviously figured out her rather minor involvement in it could become a source of income. But she's not a real journalist. I tried watching one of her videos and it's just influencer drivel. I never had a problem with her posting that video but I've lost respect for her now that I know more about her.

Her quality as a journalism is totally irrelevant except to point out that the criticism of Bl was organic and the NYT shit the bed when it ran this story

Exactly.

I don’t see the BL and NYT defenders as posting organically and without particular motives. I have not made that specific suggestion ever before in either the locked thread or this one. At this point, I have serious doubts. Anyway.

A few podcasts have the audio of Ari Emmanuel on Freakanomics; someone leaked it and it included the insults of Baldoni and some extra stuff that makes him sound like a vengeful T. Rex. Powerful and pissy and a dinosaur.

I don't really get why the Ari stuff matters. He's not a party to the lawsuit. No one has alleged he did anything wrong? It's no surprise that Lively and Reynolds have their defenders -- they've been in the business a long time. I just don't get why it matters.

Do you really think Ari's talent agency dropped Justin on their own, without any influence from blake and ryan

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t follow all these mud slinging but from what I gather:

— Blake was baiting Justin with sexual innuendo texts about blow jobs and coming by to see her pump her breasts

— Ryan was baiting Justin with creepy sexual innuendo texts about his anus

— Blake bragged her husband Ryan wrote a pivotal scene

— Super agent Ari publicly bullied and bragged he sacked Justin to appease Ryan and Blake (then the podcast he did this on disappeared)

— Ryan and Blake show up at SNL 50th and Ryan forced a joke into the broadcast about his wife’s allegedly traumatic sexual harassment drama

These are not serious people.

— Unbeknownst to Taylor Swift, Blake was using her name and music to muscle and strong arm the studio and Justin (Taylor is no longer friends with Blake)

— Blake’s image in the dumps and her lifestyle brand aspirations were DOA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Regarding Flaa, it really does look like there's no connection between her and Baldoni's team. Barring some kind of smoking gun that hasn't been unearthed yet, I think the implication that she posted the interview back in August as part of a conspiracy is dead in the water.

That's said, I will say that I have severely soured on Flaa since she posted the interview. I was fully on her side when she posted it and still think Lively's behavior was pretty abhorrent. But it's pretty obvious at this point that Flaa just rides a gravy train of attaching herself to controversial celebrity topics and then milking them. The "JusticeforJonny" thing is gross (Depp was an abuser, sorry) and Flaa is STILL milking the Lively thing, since she obviously figured out her rather minor involvement in it could become a source of income. But she's not a real journalist. I tried watching one of her videos and it's just influencer drivel. I never had a problem with her posting that video but I've lost respect for her now that I know more about her.

Her quality as a journalism is totally irrelevant except to point out that the criticism of Bl was organic and the NYT shit the bed when it ran this story

Exactly.

I don’t see the BL and NYT defenders as posting organically and without particular motives. I have not made that specific suggestion ever before in either the locked thread or this one. At this point, I have serious doubts. Anyway.

A few podcasts have the audio of Ari Emmanuel on Freakanomics; someone leaked it and it included the insults of Baldoni and some extra stuff that makes him sound like a vengeful T. Rex. Powerful and pissy and a dinosaur.

I don't really get why the Ari stuff matters. He's not a party to the lawsuit. No one has alleged he did anything wrong? It's no surprise that Lively and Reynolds have their defenders -- they've been in the business a long time. I just don't get why it matters.

DAMAGES

Could you expand? Again, Ari isn't being sued. He's allowed to have an opinion. How does this have anything to do with damages?

Is his opinion the same in terms of impact on Baldoni’s career as yours? Is this really so confusing?

His “opinion” was a public brag about firing Baldoni as a client and when the seeming public sentiment was still acidic towards BL and RR, all of a sudden for the first time ever in the history of an extremely popular and successful podcast, the episode with him doing this disappears. Maybe losing representation and having awards taken away and having productions kick him out are of a piece?