Gaza War, Part 3

[Anonymous]

In their often shambolic and occasionally hysterical appearance before the International Court of Justice last Friday, at no point did the lawyers representing Israel give concrete arguments or convincing evidence that Israel’s three-month siege of Gaza should not be considered an act of genocide. Faced with a credible accusation of a crime one of their own called the “epitome and zenith of evil,” “the crime of crimes,” “the ultimate in wickedness,” they produced no proof they were not guilty.

Though they trumpeted the aid Israel is allegedly allowing into Gaza, Israel’s lawyers could not answer how it came to be that more than a million Palestinians will soon face outright famine. The Israel Defense Forces have to confront Hamas wherever they find its fighters, the lawyers insisted. But that cannot explain why a full 45 percent of Gaza’s housing stock is now a gray ruin or why entire city blocks are dynamited long after the area is cleared of the enemy; why indeed some of the oldest churches and mosques in the world are now husks. Proclaiming the high moral goal of rescuing hostages and insisting at every turn that the IDF obeys the rules of war, the lawyers gave no account for why Israeli soldiers felt able and entitled to shoot their own on sight: three men, shirtless, speaking Hebrew, waving a white flag. The leaflet drops, the text messages, the voicemails: This strategy of forewarning Gaza’s civilians was held up as an example of the army’s duty to international law, though no rebuttal was offered for why unguided “dumb” bombs are dropped on the very towns and villages and camps Palestinians were told were safe from strike—the same places those leaflets informed them would guarantee their lives.
Instead, Israel’s lawyers and agents complained. The charge of genocide brought by South Africa in The Hague was “a libel” designed to “delegitimize” the Israeli state and society. South Africa, which gave its submission to the court on Thursday, was seeking to “weaponize” the Genocide Convention in a “concerted and cynical attempt to pervert” the law’s true purpose. The lawyers, each in their turn, performed the usual acts of contrition and hand-wringing for the victims of so-called collateral damage: the “tragic … heartbreaking … terrible” civilian death toll that it attributed not to the designs and intent of the military but to the “harsh realities” of urban combat.

https://newrepublic.com/article/178174/israels-subtle-threats-international-court-justice

Israel is so lucky this has not been covered in the media here. Guess it is just a coincidence!

[Anonymous]

Dynamiting whole blocks after the area was cleared? Why won’t the Israel address this? Oh must be rogue elements within the IDF or maybe just civilians Israelis doing their thing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

In their often shambolic and occasionally hysterical appearance before the International Court of Justice last Friday, at no point did the lawyers representing Israel give concrete arguments or convincing evidence that Israel’s three-month siege of Gaza should not be considered an act of genocide. Faced with a credible accusation of a crime one of their own called the “epitome and zenith of evil,” “the crime of crimes,” “the ultimate in wickedness,” they produced no proof they were not guilty.

Though they trumpeted the aid Israel is allegedly allowing into Gaza, Israel’s lawyers could not answer how it came to be that more than a million Palestinians will soon face outright famine. The Israel Defense Forces have to confront Hamas wherever they find its fighters, the lawyers insisted. But that cannot explain why a full 45 percent of Gaza’s housing stock is now a gray ruin or why entire city blocks are dynamited long after the area is cleared of the enemy; why indeed some of the oldest churches and mosques in the world are now husks. Proclaiming the high moral goal of rescuing hostages and insisting at every turn that the IDF obeys the rules of war, the lawyers gave no account for why Israeli soldiers felt able and entitled to shoot their own on sight: three men, shirtless, speaking Hebrew, waving a white flag. The leaflet drops, the text messages, the voicemails: This strategy of forewarning Gaza’s civilians was held up as an example of the army’s duty to international law, though no rebuttal was offered for why unguided “dumb” bombs are dropped on the very towns and villages and camps Palestinians were told were safe from strike—the same places those leaflets informed them would guarantee their lives.
Instead, Israel’s lawyers and agents complained. The charge of genocide brought by South Africa in The Hague was “a libel” designed to “delegitimize” the Israeli state and society. South Africa, which gave its submission to the court on Thursday, was seeking to “weaponize” the Genocide Convention in a “concerted and cynical attempt to pervert” the law’s true purpose. The lawyers, each in their turn, performed the usual acts of contrition and hand-wringing for the victims of so-called collateral damage: the “tragic … heartbreaking … terrible” civilian death toll that it attributed not to the designs and intent of the military but to the “harsh realities” of urban combat.

https://newrepublic.com/article/178174/israels-subtle-threats-international-court-justice

Israel is so lucky this has not been covered in the media here. Guess it is just a coincidence!

They are "THE BEST!" military in the world, they say.

We all know that the U.S. provides them with the latest and greatest weaponry.

But the facts have repeatedly shown that they can't hit the broad side of a barn.

What should we believe? What they say, or what they do?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

In their often shambolic and occasionally hysterical appearance before the International Court of Justice last Friday, at no point did the lawyers representing Israel give concrete arguments or convincing evidence that Israel’s three-month siege of Gaza should not be considered an act of genocide. Faced with a credible accusation of a crime one of their own called the “epitome and zenith of evil,” “the crime of crimes,” “the ultimate in wickedness,” they produced no proof they were not guilty.

Though they trumpeted the aid Israel is allegedly allowing into Gaza, Israel’s lawyers could not answer how it came to be that more than a million Palestinians will soon face outright famine. The Israel Defense Forces have to confront Hamas wherever they find its fighters, the lawyers insisted. But that cannot explain why a full 45 percent of Gaza’s housing stock is now a gray ruin or why entire city blocks are dynamited long after the area is cleared of the enemy; why indeed some of the oldest churches and mosques in the world are now husks. Proclaiming the high moral goal of rescuing hostages and insisting at every turn that the IDF obeys the rules of war, the lawyers gave no account for why Israeli soldiers felt able and entitled to shoot their own on sight: three men, shirtless, speaking Hebrew, waving a white flag. The leaflet drops, the text messages, the voicemails: This strategy of forewarning Gaza’s civilians was held up as an example of the army’s duty to international law, though no rebuttal was offered for why unguided “dumb” bombs are dropped on the very towns and villages and camps Palestinians were told were safe from strike—the same places those leaflets informed them would guarantee their lives.
Instead, Israel’s lawyers and agents complained. The charge of genocide brought by South Africa in The Hague was “a libel” designed to “delegitimize” the Israeli state and society. South Africa, which gave its submission to the court on Thursday, was seeking to “weaponize” the Genocide Convention in a “concerted and cynical attempt to pervert” the law’s true purpose. The lawyers, each in their turn, performed the usual acts of contrition and hand-wringing for the victims of so-called collateral damage: the “tragic … heartbreaking … terrible” civilian death toll that it attributed not to the designs and intent of the military but to the “harsh realities” of urban combat.

https://newrepublic.com/article/178174/israels-subtle-threats-international-court-justice

Israel is so lucky this has not been covered in the media here. Guess it is just a coincidence!

They are "THE BEST!" military in the world, they say.

We all know that the U.S. provides them with the latest and greatest weaponry.

But the facts have repeatedly shown that they can't hit the broad side of a barn.

What should we believe? What they say, or what they do?

The m-m-moralest!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Sources say IDF had no idea medicine shipment for Gaza was exempt from security check
Today, 2:25 pm
Military sources tell Channel 12 that the Israel Defense Forces had no idea that a shipment of medicine for Gaza civilians and the hostages was to be exempted from security checks.

The comments come after Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu denied a report that said he had authorized the move.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/sources-say-idf-had-no-idea-medicine-shipment-for-gaza-was-exempt-from-security-check/

What a bunch of f ups. The clown car that is Israel and the IDF. I bet the IDF is taking payments and looting
.

Where is DCUM's Count von Count (shout out to Sesame Street!) to label you "pro-Hamas", "anti-semitic", and whatever else he can think of to distract from the subject at hand?

Someone abscond with his numbers?

I love how you cite ToI when it serves your agenda, but when it doesn’t serve your agenda it’s Zionist propaganda loudspeaker.

[Anonymous]

lol making the world safe for democracy. or whatever.

[Anonymous]

hey Arab Israelis are equal and are not discriminated against at all, like evah.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:lol making the world safe for democracy. or whatever.

Better than Guantanamo bay detainees waiting to see a lawyer for 5 years plus lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:hey Arab Israelis are equal and are not discriminated against at all, like evah.

She is not Jewish why would she represent a Jewish Religious Holiday of Shavuot?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:lol making the world safe for democracy. or whatever.

Better than Guantanamo bay detainees waiting to see a lawyer for 5 years plus lol

The bar is limbo low at this point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:hey Arab Israelis are equal and are not discriminated against at all, like evah.

She is not Jewish why would she represent a Jewish Religious Holiday of Shavuot?

Because the organizers saw it fit? The woman was good enough to light a torch on Israel Independence Day but not good enough for this? ok.

This is very typical Israeli discourse though. They love to talk about how "Arab Israelis are equal! we have Arab this and Arab that!". Then you show them all the instances of inequality in law and practice, and they are like, well, this is all right and proper, because Arabs! What did you expect! Is this a Jewish state or what!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:hey Arab Israelis are equal and are not discriminated against at all, like evah.

She is not Jewish why would she represent a Jewish Religious Holiday of Shavuot?

The objection is not that she's not Jewish, that would be fact.

"The woman who represents mixed marriage cannot represent Jewish culture."

okay.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:hey Arab Israelis are equal and are not discriminated against at all, like evah.

She is not Jewish why would she represent a Jewish Religious Holiday of Shavuot?

Because the organizers saw it fit? The woman was good enough to light a torch on Israel Independence Day but not good enough for this? ok.

This is very typical Israeli discourse though. They love to talk about how "Arab Israelis are equal! we have Arab this and Arab that!". Then you show them all the instances of inequality in law and practice, and they are like, well, this is all right and proper, because Arabs! What did you expect! Is this a Jewish state or what!

Please tell us how Jews are treated in Arab countries, which arab country has a Jewish supreme court justice or Jewish ambassadors?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:hey Arab Israelis are equal and are not discriminated against at all, like evah.

She is not Jewish why would she represent a Jewish Religious Holiday of Shavuot?

Because the organizers saw it fit? The woman was good enough to light a torch on Israel Independence Day but not good enough for this? ok.

This is very typical Israeli discourse though. They love to talk about how "Arab Israelis are equal! we have Arab this and Arab that!". Then you show them all the instances of inequality in law and practice, and they are like, well, this is all right and proper, because Arabs! What did you expect! Is this a Jewish state or what!

Please tell us how Jews are treated in Arab countries, which arab country has a Jewish supreme court justice or Jewish ambassadors?

Bahrain. Iran (MP).