Common Core's epic fail: Special Education

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At this point it has become clear that the greatest opposition to Common Core standards comes from parents of learning disabled children

Duh. Read the title of the thread. There are plenty of other complaints on other threads.

Not really. It mostly seems to be the one parent of the 7th grade learning disabled child with receptive language issues.

Yes, she solely accounts for the 70 percent of people now against Common Core.

What percent of those supposed 70 percent actually know what the Common Core standards are? Not a very high proportion, I'm guessing. But that doesn't stop them from being against it anyway.

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What percent of those supposed 70 percent actually know what the Common Core standards are? Not a very high proportion, I'm guessing. But that doesn't stop them from being against it anyway.

Far more than you think.

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At this point it has become clear that the greatest opposition to Common Core standards comes from parents of learning disabled children. I'd say let ANY parent opt their child out of meeting the standards, as long as that child qualifies as learning disabled. That would allow the rest of our kids to be taught under common core standards and prepared for college, and parents of children with LDs who WANT their children helped to these standards can also have that happen. But parents who feel it is inappropriate can design their own standards for their kids, or use whatever standards the state used in past years if they feel that was better.

No, the greatest opposition to the Common Core standards comes from people whose political position is, "If Obama supports it, I'm against it."

I'm the OP. I voted for Obama twice, but Common Core is a bipartisan disaster.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Has it occurred to anyone on this thread that those of us with children who have LDs already have enough of an uphill battle on our hands. Introducing a new set of "Not-well thought-out, Not-well-executed, Exclusionary Standards" - and by Exclusionary I mean that the standards do not take into account that many of our kids are poor critical thinkers - for the time being that is - and introducing THAT requirement as part of the math curricuulum is a crime! The ones who do not understand this are the ones who's kids are floating through school without any major or even minor hiccups.

These standards are SEGREGATING our children even more than they already are!! Yes - SEGREGATION, I said it!!

I think many people have posted on here that perhaps for those LD kids, a watered down set of standards would be beneficial.

I disagree. Watering down curriculum for most children with LD does them a gross disservice and has been and continues to be a problem in education.

But most of the posts on here from parents of LD kids don't seem to feel that way. I think there are varying degrees of LDs, and some kids might be ok with a curriculum based on CC standards, but perhaps a lot are not. I don't know. I don't have a kid with an LD.

I have a child with profound LD and watering down the curriculum is not the answer. The problem is that the way to teach children with LD costs more than school systems are willing to pay, so they snooker parents into thinking their children are not capable of successfully learning the curriculum. Children with LDs need two types of education, the curriculum and intense remediation for their LD. It takes more time and more resources, nether of which school systems are willing to provide.

PP - We are in the same exact boat, which is why I am suing the county to pay for my DS' private education. Every SpEd teacher will tell you that CC is an epic fail, they are all frustrated by it.

[Anonymous]

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At this point it has become clear that the greatest opposition to Common Core standards comes from parents of learning disabled children. I'd say let ANY parent opt their child out of meeting the standards, as long as that child qualifies as learning disabled. That would allow the rest of our kids to be taught under common core standards and prepared for college, and parents of children with LDs who WANT their children helped to these standards can also have that happen. But parents who feel it is inappropriate can design their own standards for their kids, or use whatever standards the state used in past years if they feel that was better.

No, the greatest opposition to the Common Core standards comes from people whose political position is, "If Obama supports it, I'm against it."

I'm the OP. I voted for Obama twice, but Common Core is a bipartisan disaster.

And I never voted for Obama and agree with you. It is a huge bipartisan disaster - its embarrassing honestly.

[Anonymous]

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What percent of those supposed 70 percent actually know what the Common Core standards are? Not a very high proportion, I'm guessing. But that doesn't stop them from being against it anyway.

Far more than you think.

Given that NOBODY has yet actually put forward a legitimate, cogent or fact-based argument against Common Core and that all of their arguments fall apart when asked to cite a specific standard, I'd agree that most who are opposed to Common Core haven't the foggiest idea what they are talking about and that 99.9% of the opposition is based on sketchy viral chain emails, facebook posts and other nonsense that are either pure fiction or which grossly mischaracterize and misrepresent Common Core.

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Common Core was created to support corporations who are selling their ipads and crap to schools. That's it 100%

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

At this point it has become clear that the greatest opposition to Common Core standards comes from parents of learning disabled children. I'd say let ANY parent opt their child out of meeting the standards, as long as that child qualifies as learning disabled. That would allow the rest of our kids to be taught under common core standards and prepared for college, and parents of children with LDs who WANT their children helped to these standards can also have that happen. But parents who feel it is inappropriate can design their own standards for their kids, or use whatever standards the state used in past years if they feel that was better.

No, the greatest opposition to the Common Core standards comes from people whose political position is, "If Obama supports it, I'm against it."

I'm the OP. I voted for Obama twice, but Common Core is a bipartisan disaster.

"I voted for Obama twice, but..." sets my bullshit detector off every time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Common Core was created to support corporations who are selling their ipads and crap to schools. That's it 100%

Then I don't understand why those corporations (which corporations, exactly?) went to such trouble, given that, if the Common Core standards went poof tomorrow, schools would still buy electronics, and the educational publishing industry would continue to sell materials of varying quality to the schools, just as it did before the Common Core standards.

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I have a child with profound LD and watering down the curriculum is not the answer. The problem is that the way to teach children with LD costs more than school systems are willing to pay, so they snooker parents into thinking their children are not capable of successfully learning the curriculum. Children with LDs need two types of education, the curriculum and intense remediation for their LD. It takes more time and more resources, nether of which school systems are willing to provide.

PP - We are in the same exact boat, which is why I am suing the county to pay for my DS' private education. Every SpEd teacher will tell you that CC is an epic fail, they are all frustrated by it.

I honestly don't understand. Why do you blame the Common Core standards for the county not providing the education to your son that you believe the law requires? Especially since (as I understand it) MCPS was notorious for not providing the education to children that their parents believed the law requires, long before the Common Core standards?

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At this point it has become clear that the greatest opposition to Common Core standards comes from parents of learning disabled children. I'd say let ANY parent opt their child out of meeting the standards, as long as that child qualifies as learning disabled. That would allow the rest of our kids to be taught under common core standards and prepared for college, and parents of children with LDs who WANT their children helped to these standards can also have that happen. But parents who feel it is inappropriate can design their own standards for their kids, or use whatever standards the state used in past years if they feel that was better.

No, the greatest opposition to the Common Core standards comes from people whose political position is, "If Obama supports it, I'm against it."

I'm the OP. I voted for Obama twice, but Common Core is a bipartisan disaster.

And I never voted for Obama and agree with you. It is a huge bipartisan disaster - its embarrassing honestly.

What specific aspect of the Common Core standards do you consider a huge disaster?

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What specific aspect of the Common Core standards do you consider a huge disaster?

Go read the other threads. This question has been asked before--and answered repeatedly.

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What specific aspect of the Common Core standards do you consider a huge disaster?

Go read the other threads. This question has been asked before--and answered repeatedly.

Are you the PP? I'm not asking the question in general. I'm asking the PP, specifically, what specific aspect of the Common Core standards the PP considers a huge disaster. We are all anonymous here. If you are the PP, and you have answered the question before, on another thread, there is no way for me to know this.

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Are you the PP? I'm not asking the question in general. I'm asking the PP, specifically, what specific aspect of the Common Core standards the PP considers a huge disaster. We are all anonymous here. If you are the PP, and you have answered the question before, on another thread, there is no way for me to know this.

Told you where you can find the answers. Pages and pages of answers.

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Are you the PP? I'm not asking the question in general. I'm asking the PP, specifically, what specific aspect of the Common Core standards the PP considers a huge disaster. We are all anonymous here. If you are the PP, and you have answered the question before, on another thread, there is no way for me to know this.

Told you where you can find the answers. Pages and pages of answers.

So, just to be clear -- you're the PP, and you're purposely not answering the question?

I have read all of those other threads, to my sorrow, and the answer to the question of what specific aspect of the Common Core standards is a huge disaster is apparently EVERYTHING, down to the words "the" and "and" in "CCSS.ELA-Literacy.L.K.2 Demonstrate command of the conventions of standard English capitalization, punctuation, and spelling when writing." -- and if two opponents of the Common Core standard have two different answers that are mutually contradictory and cannot both be true, that is just further proof of the badness of the Common Core standards.