Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up

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Anonymous wrote:The Rosemary Hills/Chevy Chase Elementary schools already have a mix of students from affluent and less affluent homes and a mix of races from Chevy Chase and Silver Springs. Under option 3, instead of these kids attending the same middle school (Silver Creek) and high school (BCC) they will divide this
cohort of students, who have been together for 6 years, so that they can increase diversity rates at Whitman and Blair. The BCC cluster schools already has diversity. Option 3 has Silver Spring kids being bussed past BCC to get to Whitman and Chevy Chase kids who live within 1-2 miles from BCC bussed 6 miles to Blair.

Rosemary Hills students split into two elementary schools (North Bethesda and Chevy. Chase), and option 3 ends up splitting students again.

Agree for this particular group of Rosemary Hills kids, it is completely unfair and their cluster needs to be taken off the table. They were the first and only bussed students for years and deserve stability. The diversity by bussing is already there and has been for decades. Pick on someone else.

This has been happening for many years to other families.

Rosemary Hills among was the very first (in the country) to do cross county bussing. Those familes have been dealing with this since 1983. Kingergartners in Chevy Chase have been bussed miles away from home to Silver Spring and then split away from their friends in 2nd grade for diversity purposes. Then the opposite happens for the Silver Spring kids when they are bussed out of theiir neighborhoods to CCES in third grade. My kids bus ride was 45 minutes each way every day. They’d get off the bus with motion sickness. The bus driver also lost my kindergartener and other kids when they all got off on the wrong stop in Silver Spring. They were found walking down the road. You all think MCPS isn’t serious about option 3? Think again! Rosemary Hills is their model.

I live in Rosemary Hills. There's no part of the CCES area that takes 45 minutes to get to RHPS. Maybe on a very rare occasion if there was an accident somewhere on the way, but not as the norm. And it's a very small slice of the Silver Spring kids who get bused to CCES, the poorest kids from a particular apartment complex, who are bused just to make wealthy CCES families feel better that there's diversity at their school. The rest go to NCC like my kids did. Stop being such a martyr.

The buses stop multiple times at multiple bus stops along the way. It isn’t a straight shot. You aren’t taking that into account. By the time they get they get to the last stop in Chevy Chase, it’s been 45 minutes! Obviously you didn’t live this but I DID!!!!

And you are right it’s only a small slice of the poorest kids sent to CCES, the rest go to NCC which is much closer. It’s like one school bus of kids leaving CCES for Rosemary Hills/Silver Spring to one location (the apartments) so one stop whereas there are multiple buses leaving RHPS for Chevy Chase every day with multiple stops. Your experience was cushy and as you sit on your progressive throne looking down, good for you!

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Anonymous wrote:The Rosemary Hills/Chevy Chase Elementary schools already have a mix of students from affluent and less affluent homes and a mix of races from Chevy Chase and Silver Springs. Under option 3, instead of these kids attending the same middle school (Silver Creek) and high school (BCC) they will divide this
cohort of students, who have been together for 6 years, so that they can increase diversity rates at Whitman and Blair. The BCC cluster schools already has diversity. Option 3 has Silver Spring kids being bussed past BCC to get to Whitman and Chevy Chase kids who live within 1-2 miles from BCC bussed 6 miles to Blair.

Rosemary Hills students split into two elementary schools (North Bethesda and Chevy. Chase), and option 3 ends up splitting students again.

Agree for this particular group of Rosemary Hills kids, it is completely unfair and their cluster needs to be taken off the table. They were the first and only bussed students for years and deserve stability. The diversity by bussing is already there and has been for decades. Pick on someone else.

This has been happening for many years to other families.

Rosemary Hills among was the very first (in the country) to do cross county bussing. Those familes have been dealing with this since 1983. Kingergartners in Chevy Chase have been bussed miles away from home to Silver Spring and then split away from their friends in 2nd grade for diversity purposes. Then the opposite happens for the Silver Spring kids when they are bussed out of theiir neighborhoods to CCES in third grade. My kids bus ride was 45 minutes each way every day. They’d get off the bus with motion sickness. The bus driver also lost my kindergartener and other kids when they all got off on the wrong stop in Silver Spring. They were found walking down the road. You all think MCPS isn’t serious about option 3? Think again! Rosemary Hills is their model.

I live in Rosemary Hills. There's no part of the CCES area that takes 45 minutes to get to RHPS. Maybe on a very rare occasion if there was an accident somewhere on the way, but not as the norm. And it's a very small slice of the Silver Spring kids who get bused to CCES, the poorest kids from a particular apartment complex, who are bused just to make wealthy CCES families feel better that there's diversity at their school. The rest go to NCC like my kids did. Stop being such a martyr.

The buses stop multiple times at multiple bus stops along the way. It isn’t a straight shot. You aren’t taking that into account. By the time they get they get to the last stop in Chevy Chase, it’s been 45 minutes! Obviously you didn’t live this but I DID!!!!

The RHES situation is very different from “bus the county all over the place.” At non-rush hour, every home is 12 minutes away from the school tops.

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Anonymous wrote:The Rosemary Hills/Chevy Chase Elementary schools already have a mix of students from affluent and less affluent homes and a mix of races from Chevy Chase and Silver Springs. Under option 3, instead of these kids attending the same middle school (Silver Creek) and high school (BCC) they will divide this
cohort of students, who have been together for 6 years, so that they can increase diversity rates at Whitman and Blair. The BCC cluster schools already has diversity. Option 3 has Silver Spring kids being bussed past BCC to get to Whitman and Chevy Chase kids who live within 1-2 miles from BCC bussed 6 miles to Blair.

Rosemary Hills students split into two elementary schools (North Bethesda and Chevy. Chase), and option 3 ends up splitting students again.

Agree for this particular group of Rosemary Hills kids, it is completely unfair and their cluster needs to be taken off the table. They were the first and only bussed students for years and deserve stability. The diversity by bussing is already there and has been for decades. Pick on someone else.

This has been happening for many years to other families.

Rosemary Hills among was the very first (in the country) to do cross county bussing. Those familes have been dealing with this since 1983. Kingergartners in Chevy Chase have been bussed miles away from home to Silver Spring and then split away from their friends in 2nd grade for diversity purposes. Then the opposite happens for the Silver Spring kids when they are bussed out of theiir neighborhoods to CCES in third grade. My kids bus ride was 45 minutes each way every day. They’d get off the bus with motion sickness. The bus driver also lost my kindergartener and other kids when they all got off on the wrong stop in Silver Spring. They were found walking down the road. You all think MCPS isn’t serious about option 3? Think again! Rosemary Hills is their model.

I live in Rosemary Hills. There's no part of the CCES area that takes 45 minutes to get to RHPS. Maybe on a very rare occasion if there was an accident somewhere on the way, but not as the norm. And it's a very small slice of the Silver Spring kids who get bused to CCES, the poorest kids from a particular apartment complex, who are bused just to make wealthy CCES families feel better that there's diversity at their school. The rest go to NCC like my kids did. Stop being such a martyr.

The buses stop multiple times at multiple bus stops along the way. It isn’t a straight shot. You aren’t taking that into account. By the time they get they get to the last stop in Chevy Chase, it’s been 45 minutes! Obviously you didn’t live this but I DID!!!!

And you are right it’s only a small slice of the poorest kids sent to CCES, the rest go to NCC which is much closer. It’s like one school bus of kids leaving CCES for Rosemary Hills/Silver Spring to one location (the apartments) so one stop whereas there are multiple buses leaving RHPS for Chevy Chase every day with multiple stops. Your experience was cushy and as you sit on your progressive throne looking down, good for you!

So let me get this straight: there is a single bus of kids taking a long bus ride to go to an ostensibly better school in order to increase that school’s FARMS rate? And the PP thinks that because this occurs, that MCPS will find it acceptable to bus many many many more children across the county , some to ostensibly worse schools? These two scenarios differ in significant ways.

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Anonymous wrote:The Rosemary Hills/Chevy Chase Elementary schools already have a mix of students from affluent and less affluent homes and a mix of races from Chevy Chase and Silver Springs. Under option 3, instead of these kids attending the same middle school (Silver Creek) and high school (BCC) they will divide this
cohort of students, who have been together for 6 years, so that they can increase diversity rates at Whitman and Blair. The BCC cluster schools already has diversity. Option 3 has Silver Spring kids being bussed past BCC to get to Whitman and Chevy Chase kids who live within 1-2 miles from BCC bussed 6 miles to Blair.

Rosemary Hills students split into two elementary schools (North Bethesda and Chevy. Chase), and option 3 ends up splitting students again.

Agree for this particular group of Rosemary Hills kids, it is completely unfair and their cluster needs to be taken off the table. They were the first and only bussed students for years and deserve stability. The diversity by bussing is already there and has been for decades. Pick on someone else.

This has been happening for many years to other families.

Rosemary Hills among was the very first (in the country) to do cross county bussing. Those familes have been dealing with this since 1983. Kingergartners in Chevy Chase have been bussed miles away from home to Silver Spring and then split away from their friends in 2nd grade for diversity purposes. Then the opposite happens for the Silver Spring kids when they are bussed out of theiir neighborhoods to CCES in third grade. My kids bus ride was 45 minutes each way every day. They’d get off the bus with motion sickness. The bus driver also lost my kindergartener and other kids when they all got off on the wrong stop in Silver Spring. They were found walking down the road. You all think MCPS isn’t serious about option 3? Think again! Rosemary Hills is their model.

I live in Rosemary Hills. There's no part of the CCES area that takes 45 minutes to get to RHPS. Maybe on a very rare occasion if there was an accident somewhere on the way, but not as the norm. And it's a very small slice of the Silver Spring kids who get bused to CCES, the poorest kids from a particular apartment complex, who are bused just to make wealthy CCES families feel better that there's diversity at their school. The rest go to NCC like my kids did. Stop being such a martyr.

The buses stop multiple times at multiple bus stops along the way. It isn’t a straight shot. You aren’t taking that into account. By the time they get they get to the last stop in Chevy Chase, it’s been 45 minutes! Obviously you didn’t live this but I DID!!!!

And you are right it’s only a small slice of the poorest kids sent to CCES, the rest go to NCC which is much closer. It’s like one school bus of kids leaving CCES for Rosemary Hills/Silver Spring to one location (the apartments) so one stop whereas there are multiple buses leaving RHPS for Chevy Chase every day with multiple stops. Your experience was cushy and as you sit on your progressive throne looking down, good for you!

My progressive throne is the actually diverse Rosemary Hills neighborhood. CCES families tend to be big Democratic donors who don't walk the walk, other than the big sacrifice you make to send your kids on the bus to RHPS for 3 years.

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Anonymous wrote:The Rosemary Hills/Chevy Chase Elementary schools already have a mix of students from affluent and less affluent homes and a mix of races from Chevy Chase and Silver Springs. Under option 3, instead of these kids attending the same middle school (Silver Creek) and high school (BCC) they will divide this
cohort of students, who have been together for 6 years, so that they can increase diversity rates at Whitman and Blair. The BCC cluster schools already has diversity. Option 3 has Silver Spring kids being bussed past BCC to get to Whitman and Chevy Chase kids who live within 1-2 miles from BCC bussed 6 miles to Blair.

Rosemary Hills students split into two elementary schools (North Bethesda and Chevy. Chase), and option 3 ends up splitting students again.

Agree for this particular group of Rosemary Hills kids, it is completely unfair and their cluster needs to be taken off the table. They were the first and only bussed students for years and deserve stability. The diversity by bussing is already there and has been for decades. Pick on someone else.

This has been happening for many years to other families.

Rosemary Hills among was the very first (in the country) to do cross county bussing. Those familes have been dealing with this since 1983. Kingergartners in Chevy Chase have been bussed miles away from home to Silver Spring and then split away from their friends in 2nd grade for diversity purposes. Then the opposite happens for the Silver Spring kids when they are bussed out of theiir neighborhoods to CCES in third grade. My kids bus ride was 45 minutes each way every day. They’d get off the bus with motion sickness. The bus driver also lost my kindergartener and other kids when they all got off on the wrong stop in Silver Spring. They were found walking down the road. You all think MCPS isn’t serious about option 3? Think again! Rosemary Hills is their model.

I live in Rosemary Hills. There's no part of the CCES area that takes 45 minutes to get to RHPS. Maybe on a very rare occasion if there was an accident somewhere on the way, but not as the norm. And it's a very small slice of the Silver Spring kids who get bused to CCES, the poorest kids from a particular apartment complex, who are bused just to make wealthy CCES families feel better that there's diversity at their school. The rest go to NCC like my kids did. Stop being such a martyr.

The buses stop multiple times at multiple bus stops along the way. It isn’t a straight shot. You aren’t taking that into account. By the time they get they get to the last stop in Chevy Chase, it’s been 45 minutes! Obviously you didn’t live this but I DID!!!!

And you are right it’s only a small slice of the poorest kids sent to CCES, the rest go to NCC which is much closer. It’s like one school bus of kids leaving CCES for Rosemary Hills/Silver Spring to one location (the apartments) so one stop whereas there are multiple buses leaving RHPS for Chevy Chase every day with multiple stops. Your experience was cushy and as you sit on your progressive throne looking down, good for you!

So let me get this straight: there is a single bus of kids taking a long bus ride to go to an ostensibly better school in order to increase that school’s FARMS rate? And the PP thinks that because this occurs, that MCPS will find it acceptable to bus many many many more children across the county , some to ostensibly worse schools? These two scenarios differ in significant ways.

Are you new here? Like in MoCo? Of course they will...means justify the ends.

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Those of you who are opposed to these plans should look into what Crofton HS parents in Anne Arundel County did. They are a good model for what a well-organized and effective bunch against redistricting looks like. They formed the "One Crofton" group and made their talking points off of diversity, distance, and community rather than property values and I think it swayed a lot of board members. They were a very powerful bunch.

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Anonymous wrote:The Rosemary Hills/Chevy Chase Elementary schools already have a mix of students from affluent and less affluent homes and a mix of races from Chevy Chase and Silver Springs. Under option 3, instead of these kids attending the same middle school (Silver Creek) and high school (BCC) they will divide this
cohort of students, who have been together for 6 years, so that they can increase diversity rates at Whitman and Blair. The BCC cluster schools already has diversity. Option 3 has Silver Spring kids being bussed past BCC to get to Whitman and Chevy Chase kids who live within 1-2 miles from BCC bussed 6 miles to Blair.

Rosemary Hills students split into two elementary schools (North Bethesda and Chevy. Chase), and option 3 ends up splitting students again.

Agree for this particular group of Rosemary Hills kids, it is completely unfair and their cluster needs to be taken off the table. They were the first and only bussed students for years and deserve stability. The diversity by bussing is already there and has been for decades. Pick on someone else.

This has been happening for many years to other families.

Rosemary Hills among was the very first (in the country) to do cross county bussing. Those familes have been dealing with this since 1983. Kingergartners in Chevy Chase have been bussed miles away from home to Silver Spring and then split away from their friends in 2nd grade for diversity purposes. Then the opposite happens for the Silver Spring kids when they are bussed out of theiir neighborhoods to CCES in third grade. My kids bus ride was 45 minutes each way every day. They’d get off the bus with motion sickness. The bus driver also lost my kindergartener and other kids when they all got off on the wrong stop in Silver Spring. They were found walking down the road. You all think MCPS isn’t serious about option 3? Think again! Rosemary Hills is their model.

I live in Rosemary Hills. There's no part of the CCES area that takes 45 minutes to get to RHPS. Maybe on a very rare occasion if there was an accident somewhere on the way, but not as the norm. And it's a very small slice of the Silver Spring kids who get bused to CCES, the poorest kids from a particular apartment complex, who are bused just to make wealthy CCES families feel better that there's diversity at their school. The rest go to NCC like my kids did. Stop being such a martyr.

The buses stop multiple times at multiple bus stops along the way. It isn’t a straight shot. You aren’t taking that into account. By the time they get they get to the last stop in Chevy Chase, it’s been 45 minutes! Obviously you didn’t live this but I DID!!!!

And you are right it’s only a small slice of the poorest kids sent to CCES, the rest go to NCC which is much closer. It’s like one school bus of kids leaving CCES for Rosemary Hills/Silver Spring to one location (the apartments) so one stop whereas there are multiple buses leaving RHPS for Chevy Chase every day with multiple stops. Your experience was cushy and as you sit on your progressive throne looking down, good for you!

So let me get this straight: there is a single bus of kids taking a long bus ride to go to an ostensibly better school in order to increase that school’s FARMS rate? And the PP thinks that because this occurs, that MCPS will find it acceptable to bus many many many more children across the county , some to ostensibly worse schools? These two scenarios differ in significant ways.

Are you new here? Like in MoCo? Of course they will...means justify the ends.

You really hate it here, don’t you. Yes I am new, thanks for your condescension.

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Anonymous wrote:Man, I didn't realize just how massive the variation in EML/FARMS is between high schools right now, and these options barely touch it (even option 3, which looks like it does the most to balance those factors, still has really large disparities)...

It is not up to schools to social engineer this.

I've got no horse in this race (none of the options change our zoning), but this comment is always silly. There are no school boundaries that are written in the natural boundaries of the world. Every choice that's made engineers one kind of community or another.

You are silly too. In other states, your town is the school boundary. Only in this state does this engineering happen. No one forces you to buy or rent your residence in a certain place.

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Anonymous wrote:Man, I didn't realize just how massive the variation in EML/FARMS is between high schools right now, and these options barely touch it (even option 3, which looks like it does the most to balance those factors, still has really large disparities)...

It is not up to schools to social engineer this.

I've got no horse in this race (none of the options change our zoning), but this comment is always silly. There are no school boundaries that are written in the natural boundaries of the world. Every choice that's made engineers one kind of community or another.

You are silly too. In other states, your town is the school boundary. Only in this state does this engineering happen. No one forces you to buy or rent your residence in a certain place.

Plenty of other states use county based school systems or use school systems that have boundaries that aren't the same as town lines. Drawing school boundaries happens plenty of places that aren't Maryland.

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To solve this problem, they really should be moving elementary school boundaries too. Start with that first. Otherwise, it’s all mess with so many split articulations.

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I think they have their hands full as it is. It will be interesting to see what the Crown study looks like.

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Anonymous wrote:To solve this problem, they really should be moving elementary school boundaries too. Start with that first. Otherwise, it’s all mess with so many split articulations.

Did they create new split articulation in ES in any of these options?

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amazing, I can hear the Blair games from my house and in none of the options would my kid be going there

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Anonymous wrote:amazing, I can hear the Blair games from my house and in none of the options would my kid be going there

Would they go there now?

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No way Option 3 is a real option with the crazy pockets of HS zones that are 30-45 minute bus rides away, like the Blair zone near BCC and the Kennedy one near Farmland ES. It’s almost a joke it’s so insane.

I’m with PPs that Option 3 is almost a poison pill developed to ensure Options 1, 2, and 4 are picked.