Will Maga just watch the sinking ship or admit they were wrong?

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA isn’t successful or accepted in popular culture. They are the rejects. They believe that if they are going to down might as well take everybody with them.


Exactly, Trump united all of the broken misfit toys, and this is their revenge. For the MAGAs it’s a suicide mission because it’s will ruin their lives as much as anyone. They are like the Columbine killers.


We need to stress this more. Trump voters are broken people who shouldn’t be voting.


Agree 100% and I'll take this a step further by saying everyone and anyone duped into voting for Trump and Biden in 2020 should have their voting rights revoked. Anyone who thinks 80 year old people should serve in the most powerful and demanding position in the world is a complete and utter idiot that can't understand the most basic and simple human science.


You are the reason why we have Trump. Irrational people throwing temper tantrums instead of pulling up their big girl panties and doing the right thing.

Grow TF up.


We had a Trump 1st term because of idiots voting for Trump. We had a Trump second term because of idiots voting for Trump and because idiots couldn't see the forest for the trees when electing an unlikable 77 year old jerk to a 1st term.

You may have been shocked to see Biden roll over like a dead dog in 2024 so that Trump would have an easy election victory; the rest of the world with at least half a brain were not shocked when seeing the obvious ramifications of electing a 77 year old to a 1st POTUS term play out. Think. Read. Then comment.


Biden wasn’t great and we never should have elected either of these crusty old guys to office.

However, Biden is an overcooked steak. Yeah it tastes like a boot and you’ve got plenty of complaints. But it’s edible enough while you wait for your next hopefully better meal.

Trump is a charred piece of turd being served by drugged up chef who is actively burning down the kitchen.

Like yes both are not great, but one is significantly worse than the other.

So whenever I hear people say they “had” to vote for Trump because of how bad Biden is, I think they’re even dumber than the people who legit think Trump is amazing.

To realize Trump is a turd and choose him because you didn’t like your burnt steak is asinine. In no ways will this administration’s harms make the country better in anyway.


The problem with settling for that overcooked steak who like anyone else with a pulse would have been viewed as the lesser of two evils against Trump in 2020 is that electing that overcooked steak as a first term POTUS in 2020 sets you up for guaranteed failure four years later when that overcooked is now a very unpopular and unfit incumbent. That dreadful scenario is how someone as weak and awful as Trump is elected to a second term.

We can't change our 2020 mistake now. All we can do is learn from it. When the mega donors push another Biden on the party in 2028, say hhhhheeeeeelllllll no!!!!!!


Elon was the best mega donor wouldn’t you say? He just gave Trump $100k for his car commercial. To the pac of his choice.


What's your point? If you're trying to defend Trump and Musk, you are barking up the wrong tree.


My point is there is corruption in this admin and to call out pp singling out the Dems. You’re reading too fast. Including the one above. We’re on the same side. 😉
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Anonymous wrote:MAGA isn’t successful or accepted in popular culture. They are the rejects. They believe that if they are going to down might as well take everybody with them.


Exactly, Trump united all of the broken misfit toys, and this is their revenge. For the MAGAs it’s a suicide mission because it’s will ruin their lives as much as anyone. They are like the Columbine killers.


We need to stress this more. Trump voters are broken people who shouldn’t be voting.


Agree 100% and I'll take this a step further by saying everyone and anyone duped into voting for Trump and Biden in 2020 should have their voting rights revoked. Anyone who thinks 80 year old people should serve in the most powerful and demanding position in the world is a complete and utter idiot that can't understand the most basic and simple human science.


You are the reason why we have Trump. Irrational people throwing temper tantrums instead of pulling up their big girl panties and doing the right thing.

Grow TF up.


We had a Trump 1st term because of idiots voting for Trump. We had a Trump second term because of idiots voting for Trump and because idiots couldn't see the forest for the trees when electing an unlikable 77 year old jerk to a 1st term.

You may have been shocked to see Biden roll over like a dead dog in 2024 so that Trump would have an easy election victory; the rest of the world with at least half a brain were not shocked when seeing the obvious ramifications of electing a 77 year old to a 1st POTUS term play out. Think. Read. Then comment.


You weaponized the legal system against political opponents and pushed woke idiocy down everyone's throat. That's why you lost.


Joe frickin Biden is why we lost. I haven't weaponized anything. Find a brain.


Democrats were VERY hot and bothered to install Joe Biden in 2020. But now he’s “the only reason we lost.” Why can’t Dems admit that their IDEAS are unpopular? It seems to be a huge psychological blind spot.


I’m a 40-something AA with a circle of other educated 40-something AAs in the DMV, all born and raised here. We frequently discuss and agree with this. It is a huge blind spot that is frequently shut down when some people tried to explain, it was justified away. It was the pushing of gender changes on kids that rubbed a lot of Democrat Christians (many black women) the wrong way. And taking on too many issues to push too hard too fast that we knew would put a sour taste in people’s mouth, whether justified or not. But we all still voted Blue No Matter Who. Same reason we can believe that abortion is immoral in God’s eyes as Christians but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have a right to make decisions about our bodies.

The black Christian Democratic vote is misunderstood and very powerful. Thats why it always surprises people when we mobilize our communities.


When, where, and how did people see the “pushing of gender changes on kids”? Seriously. I missed that part.
Is it an online thing? Some sort of specific social media that I don’t listen to? I’ve honestly only heard Republicans talk like this.


Cognitive dissonance prevents fancy upper middle class Democrats from clearly seeing their pwn party’s policies. If they think if themselves as the most classy, intelligent, and MORAL people in the country, specifically because they are Democrats, they can’t really process the darker side of their party’s attempts to “prevent hate” via EARLY childhood exposure to sexual preference and gender fluidity themes. The Fairfax County and Loudon County schoolboards are hotbeds of this push. Most well-meaning liberal ed school grad think it’s essential. An early intervention to prevent later transphobia. Oh look, here’s Karl Frisch being sworn in to the Fairfax County schoolboard on a stack if gay porn for kids. Lots of blue cities and suburbs have policies or even laws helping schools transition kids behind their parents backs, let teachers and school nurses give kids new names and pronouns, etc. The Biden administration was all about “gender affirming care.” Normal hi-falutin Dems don’t quite understand what that means other than “being nice,” but trans activists and profiteering doctors know all about the puberty-blocking hormones and underage sex change surgeries. It’s a dark push, and it certainly isn’t coming from Republicans, but “centrist” Dems say it isn’t happening. Oh look, here’s Biden’s health czar “Rachel” Levine caught pushing for underage sex changes. Huh. Some Dems work very hard at this stuff, others have no idea it’s happening, and rationalize away the small bits that do reach their attention.
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Anonymous wrote:MAGA isn’t successful or accepted in popular culture. They are the rejects. They believe that if they are going to down might as well take everybody with them.


Exactly, Trump united all of the broken misfit toys, and this is their revenge. For the MAGAs it’s a suicide mission because it’s will ruin their lives as much as anyone. They are like the Columbine killers.


We need to stress this more. Trump voters are broken people who shouldn’t be voting.


Agree 100% and I'll take this a step further by saying everyone and anyone duped into voting for Trump and Biden in 2020 should have their voting rights revoked. Anyone who thinks 80 year old people should serve in the most powerful and demanding position in the world is a complete and utter idiot that can't understand the most basic and simple human science.


You are the reason why we have Trump. Irrational people throwing temper tantrums instead of pulling up their big girl panties and doing the right thing.

Grow TF up.


We had a Trump 1st term because of idiots voting for Trump. We had a Trump second term because of idiots voting for Trump and because idiots couldn't see the forest for the trees when electing an unlikable 77 year old jerk to a 1st term.

You may have been shocked to see Biden roll over like a dead dog in 2024 so that Trump would have an easy election victory; the rest of the world with at least half a brain were not shocked when seeing the obvious ramifications of electing a 77 year old to a 1st POTUS term play out. Think. Read. Then comment.


You weaponized the legal system against political opponents and pushed woke idiocy down everyone's throat. That's why you lost.


Joe frickin Biden is why we lost. I haven't weaponized anything. Find a brain.


Democrats were VERY hot and bothered to install Joe Biden in 2020. But now he’s “the only reason we lost.” Why can’t Dems admit that their IDEAS are unpopular? It seems to be a huge psychological blind spot.


I’m a 40-something AA with a circle of other educated 40-something AAs in the DMV, all born and raised here. We frequently discuss and agree with this. It is a huge blind spot that is frequently shut down when some people tried to explain, it was justified away. It was the pushing of gender changes on kids that rubbed a lot of Democrat Christians (many black women) the wrong way. And taking on too many issues to push too hard too fast that we knew would put a sour taste in people’s mouth, whether justified or not. But we all still voted Blue No Matter Who. Same reason we can believe that abortion is immoral in God’s eyes as Christians but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have a right to make decisions about our bodies.

The black Christian Democratic vote is misunderstood and very powerful. Thats why it always surprises people when we mobilize our communities.


The Democrats have become very strict about conformity. Everyone has to accept the platform, no disagreement allowed. African-Americans are less enthusiastic about forced injections, due to a hard-earned understanding of US Gov’t history, but rich white liberals don’t accept that. They relate more to the compromised rich whites in the revolving door between CDC/FDA and pharmaceutical companies. These are their people. But that’s not the biggest issue. The biggest issue for black Christians is that the Party is increasingly hostile to Christianity.


Yeah, Republicans were so accepting of dissent during Operation Iraqi “Freedom.” No Republican EVER labeled anyone opposed to the war as “not patriotic,” and “Freedom” Fries were just something I dreamed up.


Now the parties have switched and the Democrats are all-in on war in Ukraine, and they say that anyone who wants peace is a Putin-loving traitor.


MAGA drivel.


How so? Do Democrats not support Ukraine in its war against Russia? Are Democrats not aghast at Trump and Trump voters for insufficient support of Ukraine? I don’t get it. Are you just gaslighting?


You’re either a bot or stupid if calling it a war “against” Russia.

In the 90s after the dissolution of the USSR, we were part of a deal to get Ukraine to return nuclear weapons to Russia in return for their independence. Russia is the country breaking the agreement.

I can understand varying opinions as to how much support we owe Ukraine at this point in time, but to side with Russia and call Zelensky a dictator is horrific. The only reason for the U.S. to do this is if there are ties to Russia that we don’t fully grasp yet.
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Anonymous wrote:MAGA isn’t successful or accepted in popular culture. They are the rejects. They believe that if they are going to down might as well take everybody with them.


Exactly, Trump united all of the broken misfit toys, and this is their revenge. For the MAGAs it’s a suicide mission because it’s will ruin their lives as much as anyone. They are like the Columbine killers.


We need to stress this more. Trump voters are broken people who shouldn’t be voting.


Agree 100% and I'll take this a step further by saying everyone and anyone duped into voting for Trump and Biden in 2020 should have their voting rights revoked. Anyone who thinks 80 year old people should serve in the most powerful and demanding position in the world is a complete and utter idiot that can't understand the most basic and simple human science.


You are the reason why we have Trump. Irrational people throwing temper tantrums instead of pulling up their big girl panties and doing the right thing.

Grow TF up.


We had a Trump 1st term because of idiots voting for Trump. We had a Trump second term because of idiots voting for Trump and because idiots couldn't see the forest for the trees when electing an unlikable 77 year old jerk to a 1st term.

You may have been shocked to see Biden roll over like a dead dog in 2024 so that Trump would have an easy election victory; the rest of the world with at least half a brain were not shocked when seeing the obvious ramifications of electing a 77 year old to a 1st POTUS term play out. Think. Read. Then comment.


Biden wasn’t great and we never should have elected either of these crusty old guys to office.

However, Biden is an overcooked steak. Yeah it tastes like a boot and you’ve got plenty of complaints. But it’s edible enough while you wait for your next hopefully better meal.

Trump is a charred piece of turd being served by drugged up chef who is actively burning down the kitchen.

Like yes both are not great, but one is significantly worse than the other.

So whenever I hear people say they “had” to vote for Trump because of how bad Biden is, I think they’re even dumber than the people who legit think Trump is amazing.

To realize Trump is a turd and choose him because you didn’t like your burnt steak is asinine. In no ways will this administration’s harms make the country better in anyway.


The problem with settling for that overcooked steak who like anyone else with a pulse would have been viewed as the lesser of two evils against Trump in 2020 is that electing that overcooked steak as a first term POTUS in 2020 sets you up for guaranteed failure four years later when that overcooked is now a very unpopular and unfit incumbent. That dreadful scenario is how someone as weak and awful as Trump is elected to a second term.

We can't change our 2020 mistake now. All we can do is learn from it. When the mega donors push another Biden on the party in 2028, say hhhhheeeeeelllllll no!!!!!!


Elon was the best mega donor wouldn’t you say? He just gave Trump $100k for his car commercial. To the pac of his choice.


What's your point? If you're trying to defend Trump and Musk, you are barking up the wrong tree.


My point is there is corruption in this admin and to call out pp singling out the Dems. You’re reading too fast. Including the one above. We’re on the same side. 😉


Yes, we're on the same side and I'm calling out the awfulness of Dem Party leadership or the lack thereof that has created a pathway for two Trump presidential terms to occur. Why? Because we can't control what the idiot MAGA people do during the Trump era but we should have some say in making sure the Dem party is functioning well enough to make sure awful and weak opponents can't win.

The GOP is in the process of handing us another easy victory in 2028 just as they did in 2020. If we take that victory with another lowly Joe Biden, we will just be setting ourselves up for failure in 2032. What we can control is making sure another Joe Biden isn't the 2028 Dem nominee.
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Anonymous wrote:MAGA isn’t successful or accepted in popular culture. They are the rejects. They believe that if they are going to down might as well take everybody with them.


Exactly, Trump united all of the broken misfit toys, and this is their revenge. For the MAGAs it’s a suicide mission because it’s will ruin their lives as much as anyone. They are like the Columbine killers.


We need to stress this more. Trump voters are broken people who shouldn’t be voting.


Agree 100% and I'll take this a step further by saying everyone and anyone duped into voting for Trump and Biden in 2020 should have their voting rights revoked. Anyone who thinks 80 year old people should serve in the most powerful and demanding position in the world is a complete and utter idiot that can't understand the most basic and simple human science.


You are the reason why we have Trump. Irrational people throwing temper tantrums instead of pulling up their big girl panties and doing the right thing.

Grow TF up.


Imagine being so brainwashed that you see 4 years of Biden growing the economy with record low unemployment, then see Trump tear it all down in just 3 months, and conclude that really both sides the same.


Trump is the worst ever no doubt but Trump and Biden do have one very obvious thing in common- neither had any business being elected POTUS in the two most recent elections. If Trump had never existed, we would have never had a Biden 1st term and if Biden had never existed, we wouldn't have had a Trump second term. These two elderly losers were only capable of beating each other.

Truth hurts. Sorry MAGA.


We're gonna burn all your progressive leftist nonsense down. Sorry, comm1e, truth hurts.

And yet it is the republicans who love everything Putin, from Trump, Gabbad, Patel, Tucker, and rheumatologist republicans I. The senate. You do know that Putin and Russia are the communist you republicans support.


Putin is now more popular with Ametican voters than Biden, Harris, pelosi, or Schumer. What have the Dems done wrong to deserve such scorn from the American people?



You aren’t going to like this answer but: destroyed livelihoods permanently with their pandemic policies and kept kids out of school in the pandemic.

The deep anger over Democratic pandemic policies is powerful, but the elitist leaders that run the Democratic Party and their laptop class supporters won’t even acknowledge all the losses, let alone that people are angry. The wealthy Democrats who benefited off the labor of working class people whose kids suffered the most from the school closures have conveyed over and over who much they do not care about how those working classes suffered under Democrats.

Do you understand just how deeply people like Pelosi and the laptop class Democrats of DCUM are absolutely hated by most Americans?


I absolutely do understand this hatred and it's warranted. I also understand the hatred for Trump in 2020 that gave him a 40% approval rating and ZERO chance of winning the 2020 election. In 2024, Biden was the incumbent with a 40% approval rating and ZERO chance of winning the 2024 election. In 2028, Trump will be lucky to have maintained a 40% approval rating and the GOP will have ZERO chance of a 2028 election victory.

At some point, you'd think the gullible and naive GOP and Dem loyalists would realize where this cycle of awfulness leads and they'd begin to demand better leadership...


Agreed with all points.

I wish one of the two parties would reconstitute itself as a true party of labor and working classes. Otherwise it’s just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.


The Republicans have done it. They aren’t sincere, but they have attracted the working class voters. Democrats don’t even try to help the working class any more, although upper middle class Dems still talk a lot about how kind and compassionate they are and how stupid the working class is for not appreciating them more.


In Trump’s first term he cut health care, food and housing programs and labor protections for poor and working-class Americans. That doesn’t sound at all like a kind, compassionate party of labor.
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Anonymous wrote:MAGA isn’t successful or accepted in popular culture. They are the rejects. They believe that if they are going to down might as well take everybody with them.


Exactly, Trump united all of the broken misfit toys, and this is their revenge. For the MAGAs it’s a suicide mission because it’s will ruin their lives as much as anyone. They are like the Columbine killers.


We need to stress this more. Trump voters are broken people who shouldn’t be voting.


Agree 100% and I'll take this a step further by saying everyone and anyone duped into voting for Trump and Biden in 2020 should have their voting rights revoked. Anyone who thinks 80 year old people should serve in the most powerful and demanding position in the world is a complete and utter idiot that can't understand the most basic and simple human science.


You are the reason why we have Trump. Irrational people throwing temper tantrums instead of pulling up their big girl panties and doing the right thing.

Grow TF up.


Imagine being so brainwashed that you see 4 years of Biden growing the economy with record low unemployment, then see Trump tear it all down in just 3 months, and conclude that really both sides the same.


Trump is the worst ever no doubt but Trump and Biden do have one very obvious thing in common- neither had any business being elected POTUS in the two most recent elections. If Trump had never existed, we would have never had a Biden 1st term and if Biden had never existed, we wouldn't have had a Trump second term. These two elderly losers were only capable of beating each other.

Truth hurts. Sorry MAGA.


We're gonna burn all your progressive leftist nonsense down. Sorry, comm1e, truth hurts.

And yet it is the republicans who love everything Putin, from Trump, Gabbad, Patel, Tucker, and rheumatologist republicans I. The senate. You do know that Putin and Russia are the communist you republicans support.


Putin is now more popular with Ametican voters than Biden, Harris, pelosi, or Schumer. What have the Dems done wrong to deserve such scorn from the American people?



You aren’t going to like this answer but: destroyed livelihoods permanently with their pandemic policies and kept kids out of school in the pandemic.

The deep anger over Democratic pandemic policies is powerful, but the elitist leaders that run the Democratic Party and their laptop class supporters won’t even acknowledge all the losses, let alone that people are angry. The wealthy Democrats who benefited off the labor of working class people whose kids suffered the most from the school closures have conveyed over and over who much they do not care about how those working classes suffered under Democrats.

Do you understand just how deeply people like Pelosi and the laptop class Democrats of DCUM are absolutely hated by most Americans?


I absolutely do understand this hatred and it's warranted. I also understand the hatred for Trump in 2020 that gave him a 40% approval rating and ZERO chance of winning the 2020 election. In 2024, Biden was the incumbent with a 40% approval rating and ZERO chance of winning the 2024 election. In 2028, Trump will be lucky to have maintained a 40% approval rating and the GOP will have ZERO chance of a 2028 election victory.

At some point, you'd think the gullible and naive GOP and Dem loyalists would realize where this cycle of awfulness leads and they'd begin to demand better leadership...


Agreed with all points.

I wish one of the two parties would reconstitute itself as a true party of labor and working classes. Otherwise it’s just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.


The Republicans have done it. They aren’t sincere, but they have attracted the working class voters. Democrats don’t even try to help the working class any more, although upper middle class Dems still talk a lot about how kind and compassionate they are and how stupid the working class is for not appreciating them more.


In Trump’s first term he cut health care, food and housing programs and labor protections for poor and working-class Americans. That doesn’t sound at all like a kind, compassionate party of labor.


So funny to hear the GOP and Dem sheep arguing over which major party cares less about regular Americans. It should be obvious to all you all by now that leaders of both major parties don't give a rat's poop about you, me or any other person that isn't a wealthy mega-donor.

This is actually not funny to hear. You people need to grow up and start reconsidering your loyalties to these awful PRIVATE and replaceable political entities.
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Democrats are seen as more generous with welfare and programs for the deeply poor, Republicans are seen as better for the working poor and middle classes. Workers wan’t better wages (not higher minimum wages, better wages a step or two up from minimum wage). They want less offshoring, less wage suppressing immigration, etc. Dems are the party of welfare and public sector unions (almost the only ones left). Neither of those areas of Dem largesse actually help the private sector working or middle classes. That’s one reason why those private sector workers are voting Republican these days. It’s not just that they are stupid. The other part of the disconnect is that Dems are remembering their old party which was a better friend to labor than the modern one.
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Anonymous wrote:MAGA isn’t successful or accepted in popular culture. They are the rejects. They believe that if they are going to down might as well take everybody with them.


Exactly, Trump united all of the broken misfit toys, and this is their revenge. For the MAGAs it’s a suicide mission because it’s will ruin their lives as much as anyone. They are like the Columbine killers.


We need to stress this more. Trump voters are broken people who shouldn’t be voting.


Agree 100% and I'll take this a step further by saying everyone and anyone duped into voting for Trump and Biden in 2020 should have their voting rights revoked. Anyone who thinks 80 year old people should serve in the most powerful and demanding position in the world is a complete and utter idiot that can't understand the most basic and simple human science.


You are the reason why we have Trump. Irrational people throwing temper tantrums instead of pulling up their big girl panties and doing the right thing.

Grow TF up.


Imagine being so brainwashed that you see 4 years of Biden growing the economy with record low unemployment, then see Trump tear it all down in just 3 months, and conclude that really both sides the same.


Trump is the worst ever no doubt but Trump and Biden do have one very obvious thing in common- neither had any business being elected POTUS in the two most recent elections. If Trump had never existed, we would have never had a Biden 1st term and if Biden had never existed, we wouldn't have had a Trump second term. These two elderly losers were only capable of beating each other.

Truth hurts. Sorry MAGA.


We're gonna burn all your progressive leftist nonsense down. Sorry, comm1e, truth hurts.

And yet it is the republicans who love everything Putin, from Trump, Gabbad, Patel, Tucker, and rheumatologist republicans I. The senate. You do know that Putin and Russia are the communist you republicans support.


Putin is now more popular with Ametican voters than Biden, Harris, pelosi, or Schumer. What have the Dems done wrong to deserve such scorn from the American people?



You aren’t going to like this answer but: destroyed livelihoods permanently with their pandemic policies and kept kids out of school in the pandemic.

The deep anger over Democratic pandemic policies is powerful, but the elitist leaders that run the Democratic Party and their laptop class supporters won’t even acknowledge all the losses, let alone that people are angry. The wealthy Democrats who benefited off the labor of working class people whose kids suffered the most from the school closures have conveyed over and over who much they do not care about how those working classes suffered under Democrats.

Do you understand just how deeply people like Pelosi and the laptop class Democrats of DCUM are absolutely hated by most Americans?


I absolutely do understand this hatred and it's warranted. I also understand the hatred for Trump in 2020 that gave him a 40% approval rating and ZERO chance of winning the 2020 election. In 2024, Biden was the incumbent with a 40% approval rating and ZERO chance of winning the 2024 election. In 2028, Trump will be lucky to have maintained a 40% approval rating and the GOP will have ZERO chance of a 2028 election victory.

At some point, you'd think the gullible and naive GOP and Dem loyalists would realize where this cycle of awfulness leads and they'd begin to demand better leadership...


Agreed with all points.

I wish one of the two parties would reconstitute itself as a true party of labor and working classes. Otherwise it’s just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.


The Republicans have done it. They aren’t sincere, but they have attracted the working class voters. Democrats don’t even try to help the working class any more, although upper middle class Dems still talk a lot about how kind and compassionate they are and how stupid the working class is for not appreciating them more.


In Trump’s first term he cut health care, food and housing programs and labor protections for poor and working-class Americans. That doesn’t sound at all like a kind, compassionate party of labor.


So funny to hear the GOP and Dem sheep arguing over which major party cares less about regular Americans. It should be obvious to all you all by now that leaders of both major parties don't give a rat's poop about you, me or any other person that isn't a wealthy mega-donor.

This is actually not funny to hear. You people need to grow up and start reconsidering your loyalties to these awful PRIVATE and replaceable political entities.



I’ve never seen someone referring to others as “sheep” who wasn’t one of the flock themselves.
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Anonymous wrote:Democrats are seen as more generous with welfare and programs for the deeply poor, Republicans are seen as better for the working poor and middle classes. Workers wan’t better wages (not higher minimum wages, better wages a step or two up from minimum wage). They want less offshoring, less wage suppressing immigration, etc. Dems are the party of welfare and public sector unions (almost the only ones left). Neither of those areas of Dem largesse actually help the private sector working or middle classes. That’s one reason why those private sector workers are voting Republican these days. It’s not just that they are stupid. The other part of the disconnect is that Dems are remembering their old party which was a better friend to labor than the modern one.


You are speaking as if it is 2012. In 2025, there may be handful of politicians in Congress that truly give a damn about the poor and middle classes but that's it. Otherwise, if you aren't a mega-donor, your interests don't meet diddly squat to our GOP and Dem politicians in Congress. Sorry, I know this truth hurts.
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Anonymous wrote:Democrats are seen as more generous with welfare and programs for the deeply poor, Republicans are seen as better for the working poor and middle classes. Workers wan’t better wages (not higher minimum wages, better wages a step or two up from minimum wage). They want less offshoring, less wage suppressing immigration, etc. Dems are the party of welfare and public sector unions (almost the only ones left). Neither of those areas of Dem largesse actually help the private sector working or middle classes. That’s one reason why those private sector workers are voting Republican these days. It’s not just that they are stupid. The other part of the disconnect is that Dems are remembering their old party which was a better friend to labor than the modern one.


So, things like trying to enact a rule allowing employers to pocket their workers’ tips, blocking minimum wage increases, and denying overtime pay to millions of low wage workers, these are things that are seen as better for the private sector working poor and middle class?

I feel like we’re in Opposite Land here.
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At a certain point, we have to stop just telling ourselves we’re “the workers’ party” and just ASK workers why they vote Republican.
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Anonymous wrote:At a certain point, we have to stop just telling ourselves we’re “the workers’ party” and just ASK workers why they vote Republican.


Because Republican messaging is effective. Even if theyre lying and dumbing it down. it works for their party. Its outrageous.
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Oh they also are the Grand Old Gaslighters
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Because Republican messaging is effective. Even if theyre lying and dumbing it down. it works for their party. Its outrageous.


So long as Democrats convey to working class people that they think they are stupid, don’t understand their own situations, and are basically idiots, Democrats will continue to lose the working class to Republicans.
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I think it’s more likely that Russian operatives will hack sites like this and give IP addresses of the anti MAGA posters to their allies in the US than MAGA fans will admit they were wrong.
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