GA & MLS NEXT Form Strategic Alliance

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Anonymous wrote:This is strategic, not something that will happen overnight.

When DA folded, ECNL was there, established, and had positioned themselves to take over the girls game.

That is the position GA is in right now. No one knows where college will be in the next 3+ years. Last I heard they were wanting to be governed by US Soccer as well…

1000% true.

Eventually NWSL is going to need to focus on the quality of the product they put on the field. Once this happens GA MLSN and US Soccer will be where they turn.

Lol. Why the GA?

Because ECNL has no interest in creating a pro pathway. Their biggest competitors
MLSN and GA have formed an alliance.

Think about what could happen next.

MLSN was applying pressure to their girls side by dangling the MLSN carrot to these clubs. ECNL then tried to rush this School Year change in hopes of stopping MLSN from chipping away.

It will all make sense in a couple of months.

ECNL has produced most of the teenagers that have gone pro in NWSL. Why do you think ECNL does not want to produce pro players? An ECNL from Utah literally just signed a professional contract in Nwsl.

ECNL tried to rush the SY change in hopes of stopping MLSN chipping away?

Nothing you’re saying makes any sense. You do realize ECNL existed before girls DA? The clubs that went into girls DA were ECNL clubs. When the girls DA crumbled, ECNL took a lot of those clubs back and expanded.

You sound like a very bitter GA parent. Maybe a a GA coach or director?

ECNL sees no benefit when one of their players goes pro before college. In fact, it’s in their interests for the player to stay in ECNL and go to college because it makes their showcases more valuable for college recruiting. Remember ECNL is primarily a college recruiting platform.

GA today is also a college recruiting platform, smaller and less effective than ECNL, but it’s for college recruiting just the same. What has sparked all this speculation with this announcement is that maybe GA will become a league with a different model and incentives (pro vs college) which could be a big change or it could never get off the ground. Impossible to predict how these things evolve but we will know in a few years.

General FYI MLSN places players in pro teams and college teams. It's not just for going pro.

The reason boys like MLSN if because you get both pro and college visability.

Yup! This!

The gentleman above is only concerned with ECNL Girls, but completely forgot about the other half of the program.

ECNL Boys is also all in on college recruitment, but have a hard time doing so because of their biggest competitor ….MLSN…which has just partnered with their competitor on the girls side.

What if MLSN tells these ecnl clubs, you want College and Pro visibility? Join GA/MLSN

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is strategic, not something that will happen overnight.

When DA folded, ECNL was there, established, and had positioned themselves to take over the girls game.

That is the position GA is in right now. No one knows where college will be in the next 3+ years. Last I heard they were wanting to be governed by US Soccer as well…

1000% true.

Eventually NWSL is going to need to focus on the quality of the product they put on the field. Once this happens GA MLSN and US Soccer will be where they turn.

Lol. Why the GA?

Because ECNL has no interest in creating a pro pathway. Their biggest competitors
MLSN and GA have formed an alliance.

Think about what could happen next.

MLSN was applying pressure to their girls side by dangling the MLSN carrot to these clubs. ECNL then tried to rush this School Year change in hopes of stopping MLSN from chipping away.

It will all make sense in a couple of months.

ECNL has produced most of the teenagers that have gone pro in NWSL. Why do you think ECNL does not want to produce pro players? An ECNL from Utah literally just signed a professional contract in Nwsl.

ECNL tried to rush the SY change in hopes of stopping MLSN chipping away?

Nothing you’re saying makes any sense. You do realize ECNL existed before girls DA? The clubs that went into girls DA were ECNL clubs. When the girls DA crumbled, ECNL took a lot of those clubs back and expanded.

You sound like a very bitter GA parent. Maybe a a GA coach or director?

ECNL sees no benefit when one of their players goes pro before college. In fact, it’s in their interests for the player to stay in ECNL and go to college because it makes their showcases more valuable for college recruiting. Remember ECNL is primarily a college recruiting platform.

GA today is also a college recruiting platform, smaller and less effective than ECNL, but it’s for college recruiting just the same. What has sparked all this speculation with this announcement is that maybe GA will become a league with a different model and incentives (pro vs college) which could be a big change or it could never get off the ground. Impossible to predict how these things evolve but we will know in a few years.

General FYI MLSN places players in pro teams and college teams. It's not just for going pro.

The reason boys like MLSN if because you get both pro and college visability.

This is true for boys. MLSN is a boys league.

[Anonymous]

ECNL and GA/MLSN are at a crossroads where they will be coming hard to bring clubs over to one side or the other.

ECNL has a good list of clubs that have boys ecnl and girls GA. It would be in their best interest to bring along those clubs.

If MLSN can flip a couple of those clubs to GA, then that will be a game changer.

I can see ECNL bringing over some top GA clubs while MLSN/GA bring over some clubs from the ecnl side.

Making the ecnlg and GA a little closer in competition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ECNL and GA/MLSN are at a crossroads where they will be coming hard to bring clubs over to one side or the other.

ECNL has a good list of clubs that have boys ecnl and girls GA. It would be in their best interest to bring along those clubs.

If MLSN can flip a couple of those clubs to GA, then that will be a game changer.

I can see ECNL bringing over some top GA clubs while MLSN/GA bring over some clubs from the ecnl side.

Making the ecnlg and GA a little closer in competition.

You have to think of this from a clubs perspective.

- Does playing in MLSN = more boys playing?
- Does playing in GA = more girls playing?
- Does playing in ECNL = more boys and girls playing?

I personally think MLSN and GA = the highest number of potential players. If a couple of ECNL girls clubs flip to GA + MLSN everything changes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is strategic, not something that will happen overnight.

When DA folded, ECNL was there, established, and had positioned themselves to take over the girls game.

That is the position GA is in right now. No one knows where college will be in the next 3+ years. Last I heard they were wanting to be governed by US Soccer as well…

1000% true.

Eventually NWSL is going to need to focus on the quality of the product they put on the field. Once this happens GA MLSN and US Soccer will be where they turn.

Lol. Why the GA?

Because ECNL has no interest in creating a pro pathway. Their biggest competitors
MLSN and GA have formed an alliance.

Think about what could happen next.

MLSN was applying pressure to their girls side by dangling the MLSN carrot to these clubs. ECNL then tried to rush this School Year change in hopes of stopping MLSN from chipping away.

It will all make sense in a couple of months.

ECNL has produced most of the teenagers that have gone pro in NWSL. Why do you think ECNL does not want to produce pro players? An ECNL from Utah literally just signed a professional contract in Nwsl.

ECNL tried to rush the SY change in hopes of stopping MLSN chipping away?

Nothing you’re saying makes any sense. You do realize ECNL existed before girls DA? The clubs that went into girls DA were ECNL clubs. When the girls DA crumbled, ECNL took a lot of those clubs back and expanded.

You sound like a very bitter GA parent. Maybe a a GA coach or director?

This is par for the course, for the Utah Royals. It will be their second year in existence. In their first year they made a point of signing players from Utah, or who went to college at BYU or U of U to generate buzz and get people into the games. Not saying this girl isn't a good player, but it is definitely part of their strategy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL and GA/MLSN are at a crossroads where they will be coming hard to bring clubs over to one side or the other.

ECNL has a good list of clubs that have boys ecnl and girls GA. It would be in their best interest to bring along those clubs.

If MLSN can flip a couple of those clubs to GA, then that will be a game changer.

I can see ECNL bringing over some top GA clubs while MLSN/GA bring over some clubs from the ecnl side.

Making the ecnlg and GA a little closer in competition.

You have to think of this from a clubs perspective.

- Does playing in MLSN = more boys playing?
- Does playing in GA = more girls playing?
- Does playing in ECNL = more boys and girls playing?

I personally think MLSN and GA = the highest number of potential players. If a couple of ECNL girls clubs flip to GA + MLSN everything changes.

Everything changes if a couple of clubs switch? Really? That’s a little dramatic. There is space for two competing leagues to co-exist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL and GA/MLSN are at a crossroads where they will be coming hard to bring clubs over to one side or the other.

ECNL has a good list of clubs that have boys ecnl and girls GA. It would be in their best interest to bring along those clubs.

If MLSN can flip a couple of those clubs to GA, then that will be a game changer.

I can see ECNL bringing over some top GA clubs while MLSN/GA bring over some clubs from the ecnl side.

Making the ecnlg and GA a little closer in competition.

You have to think of this from a clubs perspective.

- Does playing in MLSN = more boys playing?
- Does playing in GA = more girls playing?
- Does playing in ECNL = more boys and girls playing?

I personally think MLSN and GA = the highest number of potential players. If a couple of ECNL girls clubs flip to GA + MLSN everything changes.

Everything changes if a couple of clubs switch? Really? That’s a little dramatic. There is space for two competing leagues to co-exist.

So now it's "There is space for two competing leagues to co-exist." Yea right.

As soon as GA + MLSN start taking market space it will be over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL and GA/MLSN are at a crossroads where they will be coming hard to bring clubs over to one side or the other.

ECNL has a good list of clubs that have boys ecnl and girls GA. It would be in their best interest to bring along those clubs.

If MLSN can flip a couple of those clubs to GA, then that will be a game changer.

I can see ECNL bringing over some top GA clubs while MLSN/GA bring over some clubs from the ecnl side.

Making the ecnlg and GA a little closer in competition.

You have to think of this from a clubs perspective.

- Does playing in MLSN = more boys playing?
- Does playing in GA = more girls playing?
- Does playing in ECNL = more boys and girls playing?

I personally think MLSN and GA = the highest number of potential players. If a couple of ECNL girls clubs flip to GA + MLSN everything changes.

Everything changes if a couple of clubs switch? Really? That’s a little dramatic. There is space for two competing leagues to co-exist.

So now it's "There is space for two competing leagues to co-exist." Yea right.

As soon as GA + MLSN start taking market space it will be over.

Which ECNL club cut your DD?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is strategic, not something that will happen overnight.

When DA folded, ECNL was there, established, and had positioned themselves to take over the girls game.

That is the position GA is in right now. No one knows where college will be in the next 3+ years. Last I heard they were wanting to be governed by US Soccer as well…

1000% true.

Eventually NWSL is going to need to focus on the quality of the product they put on the field. Once this happens GA MLSN and US Soccer will be where they turn.

Lol. Why the GA?

Because ECNL has no interest in creating a pro pathway. Their biggest competitors
MLSN and GA have formed an alliance.

Think about what could happen next.

MLSN was applying pressure to their girls side by dangling the MLSN carrot to these clubs. ECNL then tried to rush this School Year change in hopes of stopping MLSN from chipping away.

It will all make sense in a couple of months.

ECNL has produced most of the teenagers that have gone pro in NWSL. Why do you think ECNL does not want to produce pro players? An ECNL from Utah literally just signed a professional contract in Nwsl.

ECNL tried to rush the SY change in hopes of stopping MLSN chipping away?

Nothing you’re saying makes any sense. You do realize ECNL existed before girls DA? The clubs that went into girls DA were ECNL clubs. When the girls DA crumbled, ECNL took a lot of those clubs back and expanded.

You sound like a very bitter GA parent. Maybe a a GA coach or director?

ECNL sees no benefit when one of their players goes pro before college. In fact, it’s in their interests for the player to stay in ECNL and go to college because it makes their showcases more valuable for college recruiting. Remember ECNL is primarily a college recruiting platform.

GA today is also a college recruiting platform, smaller and less effective than ECNL, but it’s for college recruiting just the same. What has sparked all this speculation with this announcement is that maybe GA will become a league with a different model and incentives (pro vs college) which could be a big change or it could never get off the ground. Impossible to predict how these things evolve but we will know in a few years.

General FYI MLSN places players in pro teams and college teams. It's not just for going pro.

The reason boys like MLSN if because you get both pro and college visability.

Yup! This!

The gentleman above is only concerned with ECNL Girls, but completely forgot about the other half of the program.

ECNL Boys is also all in on college recruitment, but have a hard time doing so because of their biggest competitor ….MLSN…which has just partnered with their competitor on the girls side.

What if MLSN tells these ecnl clubs, you want College and Pro visibility? Join GA/MLSN

You’re saying clubs would trade girls exposure for boys exposure? Going from ECNL to GA would kill a girls program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is strategic, not something that will happen overnight.

When DA folded, ECNL was there, established, and had positioned themselves to take over the girls game.

That is the position GA is in right now. No one knows where college will be in the next 3+ years. Last I heard they were wanting to be governed by US Soccer as well…

1000% true.

Eventually NWSL is going to need to focus on the quality of the product they put on the field. Once this happens GA MLSN and US Soccer will be where they turn.

Lol. Why the GA?

Because ECNL has no interest in creating a pro pathway. Their biggest competitors
MLSN and GA have formed an alliance.

Think about what could happen next.

MLSN was applying pressure to their girls side by dangling the MLSN carrot to these clubs. ECNL then tried to rush this School Year change in hopes of stopping MLSN from chipping away.

It will all make sense in a couple of months.

ECNL has produced most of the teenagers that have gone pro in NWSL. Why do you think ECNL does not want to produce pro players? An ECNL from Utah literally just signed a professional contract in Nwsl.

ECNL tried to rush the SY change in hopes of stopping MLSN chipping away?

Nothing you’re saying makes any sense. You do realize ECNL existed before girls DA? The clubs that went into girls DA were ECNL clubs. When the girls DA crumbled, ECNL took a lot of those clubs back and expanded.

You sound like a very bitter GA parent. Maybe a a GA coach or director?

ECNL sees no benefit when one of their players goes pro before college. In fact, it’s in their interests for the player to stay in ECNL and go to college because it makes their showcases more valuable for college recruiting. Remember ECNL is primarily a college recruiting platform.

GA today is also a college recruiting platform, smaller and less effective than ECNL, but it’s for college recruiting just the same. What has sparked all this speculation with this announcement is that maybe GA will become a league with a different model and incentives (pro vs college) which could be a big change or it could never get off the ground. Impossible to predict how these things evolve but we will know in a few years.

General FYI MLSN places players in pro teams and college teams. It's not just for going pro.

The reason boys like MLSN if because you get both pro and college visability.

Yup! This!

The gentleman above is only concerned with ECNL Girls, but completely forgot about the other half of the program.

ECNL Boys is also all in on college recruitment, but have a hard time doing so because of their biggest competitor ….MLSN…which has just partnered with their competitor on the girls side.

What if MLSN tells these ecnl clubs, you want College and Pro visibility? Join GA/MLSN

You’re saying clubs would trade girls exposure for boys exposure? Going from ECNL to GA would kill a girls program.

By the ECNL boosters view, going to GA from ECNL might be a super savvy move (especially if you can't break through now against the more successful programs) -- if you win everything in sight, you get all the exposure there (and if you add the top level boys league -- even better). The point is, it's highly club dependent.

[Anonymous]

What is likely to happen is that this alliance will not keep the top clubs from switching in the spring. Not all of the top clubs, but most. When that happens this alliance ends. Ecnl boys and mls next either merge or what is more likely is that the firm an alliance where pro focused kids play mls next and college focused kids play Ecnl. Kids can pick. Ecnl boys could still pursue pro and the reverse. Free movement between teams as goals change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is strategic, not something that will happen overnight.

When DA folded, ECNL was there, established, and had positioned themselves to take over the girls game.

That is the position GA is in right now. No one knows where college will be in the next 3+ years. Last I heard they were wanting to be governed by US Soccer as well…

1000% true.

Eventually NWSL is going to need to focus on the quality of the product they put on the field. Once this happens GA MLSN and US Soccer will be where they turn.

Lol. Why the GA?

Firstly because they are self sanctioned now, less red tape compared to ECNL.

Second, NWSL will get more of what it wants. ECNL doesn’t need a pro pathway, and they’re not setup for it, easier to set the pathway up from GA than a platform that is largely a scholarship program.

Third, have you seen women’s college soccer? It’s awful. Watch the national championship, first touches bouncing 8 yards like a u-little match. That is what academy soccer produces for NCAA. If you were NWSL wouldn’t you want a platform that you can shape almost ground up vs current brick-touch Academy soccer?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is strategic, not something that will happen overnight.

When DA folded, ECNL was there, established, and had positioned themselves to take over the girls game.

That is the position GA is in right now. No one knows where college will be in the next 3+ years. Last I heard they were wanting to be governed by US Soccer as well…

1000% true.

Eventually NWSL is going to need to focus on the quality of the product they put on the field. Once this happens GA MLSN and US Soccer will be where they turn.

Lol. Why the GA?

Firstly because they are self sanctioned now, less red tape compared to ECNL.

Second, NWSL will get more of what it wants. ECNL doesn’t need a pro pathway, and they’re not setup for it, easier to set the pathway up from GA than a platform that is largely a scholarship program.

Third, have you seen women’s college soccer? It’s awful. Watch the national championship, first touches bouncing 8 yards like a u-little match. That is what academy soccer produces for NCAA. If you were NWSL wouldn’t you want a platform that you can shape almost ground up vs current brick-touch Academy soccer?

Not really. Self sanctioning means nothing. No red tape for Ecnl at all. NWSL has no desire whatsoever for an academy system. Three teams have it at least in part and the results are not great. They also have no money to fund it. College soccer on the women’s side is where the numbers are. It is the end product. Nothing will move from that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is strategic, not something that will happen overnight.

When DA folded, ECNL was there, established, and had positioned themselves to take over the girls game.

That is the position GA is in right now. No one knows where college will be in the next 3+ years. Last I heard they were wanting to be governed by US Soccer as well…

1000% true.

Eventually NWSL is going to need to focus on the quality of the product they put on the field. Once this happens GA MLSN and US Soccer will be where they turn.

Lol. Why the GA?

Because ECNL has no interest in creating a pro pathway. Their biggest competitors
MLSN and GA have formed an alliance.

Think about what could happen next.

MLSN was applying pressure to their girls side by dangling the MLSN carrot to these clubs. ECNL then tried to rush this School Year change in hopes of stopping MLSN from chipping away.

It will all make sense in a couple of months.

ECNL has produced most of the teenagers that have gone pro in NWSL. Why do you think ECNL does not want to produce pro players? An ECNL from Utah literally just signed a professional contract in Nwsl.

ECNL tried to rush the SY change in hopes of stopping MLSN chipping away?

Nothing you’re saying makes any sense. You do realize ECNL existed before girls DA? The clubs that went into girls DA were ECNL clubs. When the girls DA crumbled, ECNL took a lot of those clubs back and expanded.

You sound like a very bitter GA parent. Maybe a a GA coach or director?

ECNL sees no benefit when one of their players goes pro before college. In fact, it’s in their interests for the player to stay in ECNL and go to college because it makes their showcases more valuable for college recruiting. Remember ECNL is primarily a college recruiting platform.

GA today is also a college recruiting platform, smaller and less effective than ECNL, but it’s for college recruiting just the same. What has sparked all this speculation with this announcement is that maybe GA will become a league with a different model and incentives (pro vs college) which could be a big change or it could never get off the ground. Impossible to predict how these things evolve but we will know in a few years.

General FYI MLSN places players in pro teams and college teams. It's not just for going pro.

The reason boys like MLSN if because you get both pro and college visability.

Yup! This!

The gentleman above is only concerned with ECNL Girls, but completely forgot about the other half of the program.

ECNL Boys is also all in on college recruitment, but have a hard time doing so because of their biggest competitor ….MLSN…which has just partnered with their competitor on the girls side.

What if MLSN tells these ecnl clubs, you want College and Pro visibility? Join GA/MLSN

You’re saying clubs would trade girls exposure for boys exposure? Going from ECNL to GA would kill a girls program.

If a club “dies” bc they went GA, then the club was never strong…

And the club won’t die. Only people that are worried about playing in GA are people with non impact kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is strategic, not something that will happen overnight.

When DA folded, ECNL was there, established, and had positioned themselves to take over the girls game.

That is the position GA is in right now. No one knows where college will be in the next 3+ years. Last I heard they were wanting to be governed by US Soccer as well…

1000% true.

Eventually NWSL is going to need to focus on the quality of the product they put on the field. Once this happens GA MLSN and US Soccer will be where they turn.

Lol. Why the GA?

Firstly because they are self sanctioned now, less red tape compared to ECNL.

Second, NWSL will get more of what it wants. ECNL doesn’t need a pro pathway, and they’re not setup for it, easier to set the pathway up from GA than a platform that is largely a scholarship program.

Third, have you seen women’s college soccer? It’s awful. Watch the national championship, first touches bouncing 8 yards like a u-little match. That is what academy soccer produces for NCAA. If you were NWSL wouldn’t you want a platform that you can shape almost ground up vs current brick-touch Academy soccer?

First, this means nothing. ECNL has no red tape preventing players from signing pro contracts. In fact there are pro scouts st ECNL showcases and have been for as long as DD has played ECNL. DD has been to invite-only NWSL youth camps. It’s always majority ECNL and a few GA players that are usually YNT.

Second, there is a pro pathway in ECNL. Look at all of the players that have signed pro contracts coming out of ECNL.

Third, starting NWSL Academy league with GA would be “almost ground up” and ECNL is “brick touch soccer academy”? That doesn’t make sense.