Trump didn't oppose the Iraq War like he's trying to claim now.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/04/28/recidivism-watch-trumps-eight-repeated-falsehoods-in-16-hours/ |
There are only two things Trump says that I would count on as honest: what he thinks about Mexicans and people who disagree with him. |
Why is this a discussion - did you think Trump is telling truth or understood the intricacies of Iraq war? Why should his view (true or not true) matter? Some citizens of the country said Iraq war (before the war began) was a big mistake and some though we should go for it. Hindsight is 2020 - but none of the citizen knew all the details to make informed decision - to claim foreign policy experience based on coincidence is ridiculous and news media asking him this question is even more ridiculous. This is giving too much importance to his crystal ball - let us talk about his his abysmal knowledge of the world and his current policies. |
Hillary championed the Iraq war.
Donald Trump was on the record opposing the war with Joe Scarborough on his show Scarborough Country in 2003. |
OP here. I completely agree we should talk more about his abysmal lack of knowledge about the world, and his failure to articulate any policies that make sense. What I'm highlighting with my post though is his brazen willingness to simply lie about the Iraq War. If you want to start a discussion about his ignorance and stupidity, I'll be happy to join that one too. |
More lies.
And here's how Trump supposedly opposed the War ...
Apparently Trump had a conversion about the time he started running for President ...
Such a liar. |
PP again. Let me highlight that 2002 answer so it doesn't get lost:
Howard Stern: “Are you for invading Iraq?” Donald Trump: “Yeah, I guess so." |
You are really pathetic if you have to dig into Howard Stern for serious political discussion. Debating Iraq war is a lost cause for Hillary, if all you got is a "I guess so" on Howard Stern. Joe Scarborough was a congressman and hosted a show for Politics. Donald Trump was on the record opposing the war with Joe on his show at a time when the war was still very popular. |
Why does it matter who they are if they asked the same exact question? Stern is one of the best interviewers in any business. Scarborough is a hack addicted to access journalism, and that's coming from someone who watches his show every day. |
"During the floor debate over the resolution authorizing the invasion of Iraq, Clinton was the only Democratic senator to have categorically accepted the Bush administration's claims regarding Iraq's alleged chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programs, Iraq's alleged long-range missile capabilities, and alleged ties to al-Qaeda. (Some Democratic senators accepted some of those claims, but not all of them.)"
Source: antiwar.com Hillary better avoid discussing Iraq war or calling Donald a sexist, a misogynist. It will not be a pleasant debate for her. |
Yeah, that source doesn't seem biased at all. I might have to find that floor debate. It doesn't change the fact that Trump is lying his a** off. However you feel about who asked him the question, "I guess so" does not equal "It will destabilize the Middle East!" |
It's not about Howard Stern the person but about the venue that Howard Stern produces. The stuff that Howard Stern puts out on his show, I don't know anyone can take it seriously other than just a crude form of entertainment. It's like finding clues on economy from the Jerry Springer show. You can like or dislike Joe Scarborough the person, but his show was about discussing politics only. In 2003, Trump told Scarborough he was not for going into Iraq. |
In SEPTEMBER 2003. After the war started. |
OP, the Iraq War is not a subject that anyone who supports Clinton should touch with a 10-foot pole. Her foreign policy decisions have been a disaster that have caused people to die.
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Trump was a private citizen. He was not required to give a serious foreign policy opinion or even being asked the question. No one invited him to the Senate floor prior to the war to give a speech. Just because the earliest pubic record we can find was in September, it doesn't mean he was not against the war prior to that. It's such a red herring whether Donald opposed the war in 2003 or 2002. Trump was against the war early enough when the war was still popular. Hillary on the other hand was the most hawkish senators at that time. She championed the war on the senate floor where it actually mattered. She continued her support long after the war started. |