What is the most elite NYC preschool?

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Anonymous wrote:Is there any way to get off the waitlist at any of these TT pre-schools 3's programs? Our kid was waitlisted at 3 and rejected at 2. Very competitive this year unfortunately and we did not sign up for public schools. What do you recommend doing in this situation?

I’d join the Parents League and set up a call to ask their advice. Or you can just start calling schools yourself to see if they have spots. Were these standalone preschools or 3s programs in ongoing schools?

Have called the schools every day since being on the waitlist. Most of the classes spots (UES TT preschools) went to siblings, legacy, and children of faculty. Essentially competing for 4-6 slots per school with all of the Elite Manhattan crowd. Had references from previous alumni and still did not get in anywhere. Actually bewildered as to what to do.

What about other schools? Merricats, IPS, MAPCDS, Temple Israel/Sharaay, York Ave, Playgarden Prep, William Woodward, Bridge Community… there are lots of schools on the UES.

What is your question here? We did not apply to any of these schools. Only the TT UES schools, and of the ones you listed, only MAPCDS could be considered one of them; however, we did not apply there.

Have you considered join the church? Ask the priest for a referral. Tell the priest how your child is destined for TT school.

I just lol’ed.

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Anonymous wrote:My child did not get into a "feeder" 2s program so we are planning to send him to the "Little Sprouts" program at Saint Stephen of Hungary School for 2s just so that he is at least exposed to school this year.

Is getting in at 3s out of the question? He got waitlisted at a few places so maybe that will help. Does applying from this school provide any benefit at all?

At this point does it make sense to just keep him here through pre-k and then focus on applying to schools for kindergarten?

Depends on what your goal is. SSHS is a K-8 school and help children apply to high school. Catholic schools tend to be more academic rigors in preschool compared to public and many private preschools so it is a solid option.

Little Learning would be my suggestion if you are looking for alternative preschool with the goal to apply private school later.

How is Saint Stephen of Hungary School generally? Haven't heard much about it.

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Anonymous wrote:My child did not get into a "feeder" 2s program so we are planning to send him to the "Little Sprouts" program at Saint Stephen of Hungary School for 2s just so that he is at least exposed to school this year.

Is getting in at 3s out of the question? He got waitlisted at a few places so maybe that will help. Does applying from this school provide any benefit at all?

At this point does it make sense to just keep him here through pre-k and then focus on applying to schools for kindergarten?

Depends on what your goal is. SSHS is a K-8 school and help children apply to high school. Catholic schools tend to be more academic rigors in preschool compared to public and many private preschools so it is a solid option.

Little Learning would be my suggestion if you are looking for alternative preschool with the goal to apply private school later.

How is Saint Stephen of Hungary School generally? Haven't heard much about it.

I am not affiliated with the school. When I was researching, they were a blue ribbon school with exmissions to 2T private school and occasionally a TT private school. I was considering sending my child for preschool and aiming for public City Wide / District G&T schools starting at K. You don't need a teacher recommendation if the child is entering public school at K. You just need a good lottery number.

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Anonymous wrote:For the All Souls parent, can you break down how many got into Dalton, Collegiate, St. Bernard, Trinity and Hunter?

Out of 35 eligible children this is what I know. This doesn’t include children who also got accepted to these schools but turned them down for another school. This is just where people chose to go (so more people got in to Dalton, Collegiate etc, buy chose other schools):


Dalton - 1
Collegiate - 1
St. Bernard - 1
Trinity - 1
Hunter - 1
St. David’s - 1
Browning - 1
Allen Stevenson - 1

There are a few kids out of the two classes moving out of the city so don’t apply, and there are a few kids who ultimately chose public school (based on being summer bdays). And obviously I didn't add the girls schools and all the coed schools.

I have a hard time believing that someone’s kid got into Dalton, but chose to go to one of the other schools listed. Other than Trinity or perhaps Collegiate.

I know someone who ultimately chose an all girls school over Dalton. So it does happen.

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Anonymous wrote:For the All Souls parent, can you break down how many got into Dalton, Collegiate, St. Bernard, Trinity and Hunter?

Out of 35 eligible children this is what I know. This doesn’t include children who also got accepted to these schools but turned them down for another school. This is just where people chose to go (so more people got in to Dalton, Collegiate etc, buy chose other schools):


Dalton - 1
Collegiate - 1
St. Bernard - 1
Trinity - 1
Hunter - 1
St. David’s - 1
Browning - 1
Allen Stevenson - 1

There are a few kids out of the two classes moving out of the city so don’t apply, and there are a few kids who ultimately chose public school (based on being summer bdays). And obviously I didn't add the girls schools and all the coed schools.

Thank you. And what is the parent body like? How elitist is it in comparison to other UES preschools (Brick, STMPG, CCDS specifically)?

I am the person who posted this. I can not compare the parent body to any other school because All Soul is the only school my child has been to. But I am not ultra wealthy or well connected or even from NYC originally, and I find most of the parents very kind and welcoming. Are there some parents who are famous, well connected and ultra rich? Yes. But there are just as many "regular" parents, if not more. There are lots of ways to get involved in the school as a parent and lots of events etc. I have felt very welcome here through our years.

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Anonymous wrote:DD was fortunate enough to be accepted into WSMS and Episcopal this cycle. Which would you recommend? Which has stronger exmission results for an unconnected family?

Which one did you end up picking? What group was it for Episcopal?

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Anonymous wrote:I heard MAPCDS also filled the spots earlier this week before DDL.

How about other feeders?

I have heard this too. Can anyone confirm if MAPCDS filled their spots prior to the deadline?

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Which of the top-tier preschools usually have second-round application after March 5?

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Anonymous wrote:Which of the top-tier preschools usually have second-round application after March 5?

Maybe there would be an afternoon spot somewhere because afternoons are harder to fill. Or maybe someone moves and a spot opens this summer.

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Which k-12 or k-8 schools does each of the following preschools feed to?

I heard some people say STMPG feeds to St David and Sacred Heart?

What about 92NY, Episcopal, Brick, MAPCDS, All Souls, Christ Church, Park Children’s Day, West Side Montessori…

Which k-12 or k-8 schools does each of these preschools listed here feed to?

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Anonymous wrote:Very curious which 4 preschools these are... if you're at a SS boys' school for K, I would guess Brick & Episcopal first 2?

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Anonymous wrote:7 kids from WSMS and 6 kids from PCDS to Brearley? So 25% of Brearley incoming K (50, right?) is from these 2 schools? Something sounds off.

I can confirm the six from PCDS. You don’t have to trust me, but I know the kids.

Brearley incoming is 50-55 spots I think.

It's not that unusual. In my son's K class, 12 kids (24%) of 50 came from two preschools. Then there were two other preschools that each sent 3-4 - so 19 kids of 50 (38%) were from four preschools. The school upped their "diversity of preschools" by then taking only 1-2 kids/school for the remaining 31 spots.

My guess would be 92NY and WSMS

Agreed, this sounds like Episcopal & Brick. 92NY lags on SS boy and WSMS is in a completely different category.

Why WSMS in different category?

In general, WSMS' TT emissions is like this: about 10+T (3-5 new families), 6-9 D ( about half of them r new families), 2-3 HM (usually all new families), 4-6 Collegiate (usually 2-4 new families), 5-9 Brearley (usually 2-4 new families). But of course WSMS sends about 3-5 families to Chapin and Spence but these two schools are less popular than Brearley among WSMS parents. As you know, this year's K admission was a bloodbath, but WSMS still did pretty well with the new head. k-8 boy schools such as St.B are usually less popular among WSMS families. WSMS has a very good relationship with St. B.. The only k-8 boy school is kind of popular among WSMS parents. Pretty much no families applied to Buckley's this year. The only issue is that many families at WSMS only wanna get into T, D, Collegiate, B and HM (less popular than the other 4). The teachers and staff at WSMS are AMAZING and down to earth. The families are NOT flashy at all and very diverse. There are quiet a bit families whose kids choose to go to public K as well. Usually, 1-2 kids get into Hunter each year. Hope this helps.

WSMS hasn’t gotten any kids into Hunter in the past several years and these other stats also are inflated.

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Anonymous wrote:Both schools sent kids to most of the TT schools - but how many. The difference is that All souls also ended up sending a decent number of kids to 2T - AS, Browning, CGPS etc - if you look at the list there are a lot of 2T or 3T schools on there. CCDS almost everyone got into TT. If your kid is smart/connected/lucky/etc they'll get into TT from anywhere, but the good feeders improve exmissions for the rest of the kids

This. You can list the TT co-ed that one sibling got into right alongside other schools where the bulk of your kids are headed and your list looks great. The list might look the same but the numbers are not the same. CCDS almost every kid got into a TT this year.

Signed,
All Souls parent (who wishes we got into CCDS)

I keep seeing the comments like CCDS sent almost every student to a TT this year. If that’s true, wouldn’t that make it comparable to or even stronger than TT of TT schools like 92NY and Episcopal?

Don’t know if this is true but if it is exmissions at CCDS would be way better than at 92NY. 92NY is definitely sending a lot of kids to lower tier schools this year. It was a tough exmissions year.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a clear ranking order for 92NY, Brick, and Episcopal, WSMS for exmissions into TT private?

At Brick, for the latest class most popular schools were St B’s (9), Dalton (8), Buckley (6), Chapin, Sacred Heart, St D’s (5 each) and Brearley (4).

In general, they have a little over 50 to place each year and are a top feeder for the single sex schools and Dalton. I would expect the list looks pretty similar at Episcopal whereas 92NY skews more to co-ed.

9 are going to St B?? Wow
Why is there no Collegiate on this list ?
Are people not as interested

This list covers 42 kids! I am guessing the remainder (1-3 kids each) would be Collegiate, Trinity, Spence, and A-S? I am surprised Spence is not more popular.
Overall really excellent placement. They know what they are doing.

That’s about right. 1 is going to Spence. 2 to Trinity. 3 to Collegiate.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a clear ranking order for 92NY, Brick, and Episcopal, WSMS for exmissions into TT private?

Kind of hard to say between them since they are all excellent. Reason it’s difficult is that it’s hard to figure out what’s a boost from the school vs what’s an admit because of a legacy relationship, etc.

In the past few years Brick has had the best exmissions, including for unconnected. When the new head joined the results really jumped.

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I think a lot of the popular preschools start at 2's. And most of the kids enter when they are 2 or 3 years old.

What are the chances to get into any of the top tier preschools at 4's? Do most, if not all kids from 3's just move up to 4's, and usually no spots for new kids at 4's?

Which top tier preschool usually have spots for new families at 4's?