FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Anonymous wrote:Sangster orange hunt section being moved to Lake Braddock for MS and HS... isn't Lake Braddock massive already? Wouldn't it make more sense to move this section entirely to a different elementary school and feed into Irving/WSHS? Still eliminates the split feeder issue.

Yes, if that’s what they were trying to fix. To this neighborhood, the split feeder is not really a problem, although the county labels it as such. They would be the only neighborhoods off of Huntsman blvd going to LBSS. This side of the parkway/Huntsman is a strong WSHS community, despite some students starting their schooling with LBSS students at sangster. The split happens after 6th and many of the AAP students at the center are zoned Irving/WSHS already.

The neighborhoods closet to Sangster (Walkers) that are all zoned for WSHS are actually much closer to WSHS than LBSS. There are several neighborhoods near the attendance island down the parkway that are closer to South County/Newington. Sending all of those kids to LBSS is silly.

In this case "much closer" to WSHS is like 2 miles. And the neighborhoods down the parkway are "closer" to South County HS than WSHS by .4 miles. From a driving perspective we're talking about roughly 3 minutes extra in either scenario. There are really compact boundaries in this area. In the absence of massive overcrowding, it doesn't make sense to make any changes right now. Neighborhoods don't want it and aren't asking for it. There are schools in FC that are massively overcrowded but WSHS isn't one of them.

Yes, “much closer” means these neighborhoods pass WSHS to get to LBSS. All for a minimal number of students.

The Sangster neighborhood passes by Lake Braddock to get to West Springfield.

The split feeder part in question, the Orange Hunt section zoned to Sangster, does not pass LBSS.

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Anonymous wrote:Sangster orange hunt section being moved to Lake Braddock for MS and HS... isn't Lake Braddock massive already? Wouldn't it make more sense to move this section entirely to a different elementary school and feed into Irving/WSHS? Still eliminates the split feeder issue.

Yes, if that’s what they were trying to fix. To this neighborhood, the split feeder is not really a problem, although the county labels it as such. They would be the only neighborhoods off of Huntsman blvd going to LBSS. This side of the parkway/Huntsman is a strong WSHS community, despite some students starting their schooling with LBSS students at sangster. The split happens after 6th and many of the AAP students at the center are zoned Irving/WSHS already.

The neighborhoods closet to Sangster (Walkers) that are all zoned for WSHS are actually much closer to WSHS than LBSS. There are several neighborhoods near the attendance island down the parkway that are closer to South County/Newington. Sending all of those kids to LBSS is silly.

In this case "much closer" to WSHS is like 2 miles. And the neighborhoods down the parkway are "closer" to South County HS than WSHS by .4 miles. From a driving perspective we're talking about roughly 3 minutes extra in either scenario. There are really compact boundaries in this area. In the absence of massive overcrowding, it doesn't make sense to make any changes right now. Neighborhoods don't want it and aren't asking for it. There are schools in FC that are massively overcrowded but WSHS isn't one of them.

Yes, “much closer” means these neighborhoods pass WSHS to get to LBSS. All for a minimal number of students.

The Sangster neighborhood passes by Lake Braddock to get to West Springfield.

The split feeder part in question, the Orange Hunt section zoned to Sangster, does not pass LBSS.

You can exit the neighborhood from the other side, taking Lee Chapel towards Lake Braddock.

Or stay on Sydentstriker to Picket yo Lak Braddock.

It is the same driving time, perhsps a minute difference, to go to WSHS or Lake Braddock, on similar roads.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sangster orange hunt section being moved to Lake Braddock for MS and HS... isn't Lake Braddock massive already? Wouldn't it make more sense to move this section entirely to a different elementary school and feed into Irving/WSHS? Still eliminates the split feeder issue.

Look at the map.

It does not appear that FCPS is doing anything to the Sangster split feeder.

It is in options 2 and 3, the Orange Hunt section of Sangster would switch from Irving/WSHS to LBSS. In option 1, that part stays as is as a split feeder.

Is that new?

It wasn't on the original 3 maps.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sangster orange hunt section being moved to Lake Braddock for MS and HS... isn't Lake Braddock massive already? Wouldn't it make more sense to move this section entirely to a different elementary school and feed into Irving/WSHS? Still eliminates the split feeder issue.

Look at the map.

It does not appear that FCPS is doing anything to the Sangster split feeder.

It is in options 2 and 3, the Orange Hunt section of Sangster would switch from Irving/WSHS to LBSS. In option 1, that part stays as is as a split feeder.

That rezoning actually makes sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sangster orange hunt section being moved to Lake Braddock for MS and HS... isn't Lake Braddock massive already? Wouldn't it make more sense to move this section entirely to a different elementary school and feed into Irving/WSHS? Still eliminates the split feeder issue.

Yes, if that’s what they were trying to fix. To this neighborhood, the split feeder is not really a problem, although the county labels it as such. They would be the only neighborhoods off of Huntsman blvd going to LBSS. This side of the parkway/Huntsman is a strong WSHS community, despite some students starting their schooling with LBSS students at sangster. The split happens after 6th and many of the AAP students at the center are zoned Irving/WSHS already.

The neighborhoods closet to Sangster (Walkers) that are all zoned for WSHS are actually much closer to WSHS than LBSS. There are several neighborhoods near the attendance island down the parkway that are closer to South County/Newington. Sending all of those kids to LBSS is silly.

In this case "much closer" to WSHS is like 2 miles. And the neighborhoods down the parkway are "closer" to South County HS than WSHS by .4 miles. From a driving perspective we're talking about roughly 3 minutes extra in either scenario. There are really compact boundaries in this area. In the absence of massive overcrowding, it doesn't make sense to make any changes right now. Neighborhoods don't want it and aren't asking for it. There are schools in FC that are massively overcrowded but WSHS isn't one of them.

Taking the modulars already installed at high schools (sunk costs) into account, FCPS reports WSHS is the most overcrowded HS in the county.

Sounds like you want them to scale back boundary changes to the two elementaries that are already the subject of studies - Coates and Parklawn.

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The split feeder part in question, the Orange Hunt section zoned to Sangster, does not pass LBSS.

The bigger issue is OHES being bursting at the seams. Everyone from Beachway to the parkway, both sides of huntsman, should go to Sangster, WIMS and then WSHS (Including all of the walkers from Sangster). It would make it a larger split feeder. And some of the houses deep into south run should go to cherry run/silverbrook/haley etc, including down near henderson/hampton. The attendance island near Hooes should 100% be a NFES neighborhood

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No we don’t- the fastest way to WSHS is Huntsman to okm to Rolling. No where near driving by LBSS. We stay in Springfield the whole drive.


The fastest route to Lake Braddock frkm that neighborhood is faster than the route you described.


The students from drive from
Huntsman/OKM/ Hillside to Rolling
Or
Cottontail/Conservation/OKM/Hillside to Rolling

Are both much faster than down to Lee Chapel to Burke Lake to LBSS

[Anonymous]

Of the three scenarios, is there one that is most likely? I’m confused as to how three scenarios came into play.

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The split feeder part in question, the Orange Hunt section zoned to Sangster, does not pass LBSS.

The bigger issue is OHES being bursting at the seams. Everyone from Beachway to the parkway, both sides of huntsman, should go to Sangster, WIMS and then WSHS (Including all of the walkers from Sangster). It would make it a larger split feeder. And some of the houses deep into south run should go to cherry run/silverbrook/haley etc, including down near henderson/hampton. The attendance island near Hooes should 100% be a NFES neighborhood

Orange Hunt Elementary school is shrinking next year, to the point that they are losing a teacher.

Look at the membership tab on the school profile

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The split feeder part in question, the Orange Hunt section zoned to Sangster, does not pass LBSS.

The bigger issue is OHES being bursting at the seams. Everyone from Beachway to the parkway, both sides of huntsman, should go to Sangster, WIMS and then WSHS (Including all of the walkers from Sangster). It would make it a larger split feeder. And some of the houses deep into south run should go to cherry run/silverbrook/haley etc, including down near henderson/hampton. The attendance island near Hooes should 100% be a NFES neighborhood

I is not really an Orange Hunt neighborhood.

Sangster sits in the middle of that neighborhood. It is a Sangster neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

The split feeder part in question, the Orange Hunt section zoned to Sangster, does not pass LBSS.

The bigger issue is OHES being bursting at the seams. Everyone from Beachway to the parkway, both sides of huntsman, should go to Sangster, WIMS and then WSHS (Including all of the walkers from Sangster). It would make it a larger split feeder. And some of the houses deep into south run should go to cherry run/silverbrook/haley etc, including down near henderson/hampton. The attendance island near Hooes should 100% be a NFES neighborhood

Orange Hunt Elementary school is shrinking next year, to the point that they are losing a teacher.

Look at the membership tab on the school profile


I'm the PP with the beachway comment. Thanks for sharing that! I had been talking to teachers there who always say how its so crowded, I did not realize next year would be so much smaller. I think that is a good point for this entire conversation, as mentioned several pages ago - that the students who will be moved, will be doing so after this bubble bursts in terms of overcrowding at WS. These are big disturbances that aren't even going to take affect until after the issue has resolved itself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No we don’t- the fastest way to WSHS is Huntsman to okm to Rolling. No where near driving by LBSS. We stay in Springfield the whole drive.


The fastest route to Lake Braddock frkm that neighborhood is faster than the route you described.


The students from drive from
Huntsman/OKM/ Hillside to Rolling
Or
Cottontail/Conservation/OKM/Hillside to Rolling

Are both much faster than down to Lee Chapel to Burke Lake to LBSS

Sydenstriker to Shiplett to LB is basically the same distance as going yo WSHS.

It is a minute or two difference.

That neighborhood is also one of the closest Sangster neighborhoods to Lake Braddock.

[Anonymous]

Closing the Sangster split feeder and sending all of Sangster to Lake Braddock is the best solution for that area.

Offer grandfathering to the high school students.

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Anonymous wrote:Closing the Sangster split feeder and sending all of Sangster to Lake Braddock is the best solution for that area.

Offer grandfathering to the high school students.

+1 but I don’t think they need to pick up some of Silverbrook/SC’s boundaries and send them up to Sangster/LB. That is weird to me and moving kids around just to move them.

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Anonymous wrote:Sangster orange hunt section being moved to Lake Braddock for MS and HS... isn't Lake Braddock massive already? Wouldn't it make more sense to move this section entirely to a different elementary school and feed into Irving/WSHS? Still eliminates the split feeder issue.

Yes, if that’s what they were trying to fix. To this neighborhood, the split feeder is not really a problem, although the county labels it as such. They would be the only neighborhoods off of Huntsman blvd going to LBSS. This side of the parkway/Huntsman is a strong WSHS community, despite some students starting their schooling with LBSS students at sangster. The split happens after 6th and many of the AAP students at the center are zoned Irving/WSHS already.

The neighborhoods closet to Sangster (Walkers) that are all zoned for WSHS are actually much closer to WSHS than LBSS. There are several neighborhoods near the attendance island down the parkway that are closer to South County/Newington. Sending all of those kids to LBSS is silly.

In this case "much closer" to WSHS is like 2 miles. And the neighborhoods down the parkway are "closer" to South County HS than WSHS by .4 miles. From a driving perspective we're talking about roughly 3 minutes extra in either scenario. There are really compact boundaries in this area. In the absence of massive overcrowding, it doesn't make sense to make any changes right now. Neighborhoods don't want it and aren't asking for it. There are schools in FC that are massively overcrowded but WSHS isn't one of them.

Taking the modulars already installed at high schools (sunk costs) into account, FCPS reports WSHS is the most overcrowded HS in the county.

Sounds like you want them to scale back boundary changes to the two elementaries that are already the subject of studies - Coates and Parklawn.

I don't think WSHS has any modulars. They had a temporary spike in attendance but if you look at elementary school numbers they're going to start dropping next year, if the CIP figures are correct. I don't have an opinion on Coates or Parklawn (nor do I actually know where they are). I'm not in favor of wildly overcrowded schools but I'm also not in favor of switching tons of kids around to "fix" a school that might be temporarily crowded and could be fixed by a modular or two.