Meghan Markle and Prince Harry News and Updates Part 3

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To be clear Lilibet is 21 days old. What responsible parent would get on an airplane to a foreign country with a newborn baby even preCovid? If this thread is any indication of the idiocy Megan and Harry have to deal with, than I definitely feel for them. I would not have the patience for such foolishness, it’s one thing to attack H&M but all bets are off when innocent babies are involved.

+1

I was told not to bring my baby near a crowd of people until she had her first shots. no way would i take a 21 day old baby on a plane.

You know they aren't going to fly commercial, right? There wouldn't be a crowd.

[Anonymous]

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I agree with you, and that’s what makes it unconscionable. The timing of the “allegations “ did, indeed cast a bad light on Meghan and Harry — as it seems it was intended to do. If interest in the investigation sputters out, or if nothing is reported, there will forever be a hazy sense that Meghan did something mean and bullying — without anyone having to provide either specific details of what she actually supposedly did, or any specific resolution. So hazy allegations smearing Meghan’s behavior, character, and fitness are actually noxiously bullying in and of themselves — as long as they remain unsubstantiated. Pretty twisted stuff.

But isn't that, though, what H&M did to the royal family? Someone said something racist about Archie. Who? Won't say. What did they say exactly? Can't share that. When did they say it? Can't say. To whom did they say it? Meg and Harry begin exchanging glances. It's the exact same thing. A hazy allegation of racism without details, its only evidentiary weight is that H&M need it to be true to fit the narrative of a poor little prince and his lady love.

I think there is more to it - angling for a takedown of Charles and William. Harry seems like a bitter angry man out to oust his father and brother from their lofty perches above him.

Almost worked for Scar in the Lion King

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I agree with you, and that’s what makes it unconscionable. The timing of the “allegations “ did, indeed cast a bad light on Meghan and Harry — as it seems it was intended to do. If interest in the investigation sputters out, or if nothing is reported, there will forever be a hazy sense that Meghan did something mean and bullying — without anyone having to provide either specific details of what she actually supposedly did, or any specific resolution. So hazy allegations smearing Meghan’s behavior, character, and fitness are actually noxiously bullying in and of themselves — as long as they remain unsubstantiated. Pretty twisted stuff.

But isn't that, though, what H&M did to the royal family? Someone said something racist about Archie. Who? Won't say. What did they say exactly? Can't share that. When did they say it? Can't say. To whom did they say it? Meg and Harry begin exchanging glances. It's the exact same thing. A hazy allegation of racism without details, its only evidentiary weight is that H&M need it to be true to fit the narrative of a poor little prince and his lady love.

I think there is more to it - angling for a takedown of Charles and William. Harry seems like a bitter angry man out to oust his father and brother from their lofty perches above him.

DP. Yes I think this is partly Harry’s motivation. The problem for him now though is that he’s played all his cards. The big ones were “my family is racist” and “my family didn’t care about my suicidal wife.” Now that those have been played, he’s got nothing left. And I think the BRF are being very careful at this point not to give him any new material.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So how much for Harry and how much for Will?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/harry-charles-finances-royal-palace/2021/06/24/675411b0-d4ca-11eb-b39f-05a2d776b1f4_story.html

Prince Charles continued to financially support the Duke and Duchess of Sussex after they stepped down as senior members of the British royal family, according to financial accounts released Thursday.

Prince Charles’s office, Clarence House, published in its annual accounts that Charles paid his sons, Prince William and Prince Harry, and their families, a sum of $6.3 million. The annual report covers the period from April 1, 2020, to March 31, 2021. It’s not broken down by family.

Harry previously had told Oprah Winfrey that his family "literally cut me off financially" in the first quarter of 2020. He said he had to use money left to him by his mother, Princess Diana, to help pay for security for his family.

A spokesman for Clarence House told the BBC that “the Prince of Wales allocated a substantial sum” to Harry and Meghan, the duke and duchess, last year “to support them” with their transition in stepping down as senior members of the British royal family and relocating to California.

Is anyone surprised that Harry’s version of “cut off” means only getting millions of pounds? And when he said he was cut off in the “first quarter,” he really meant summer?

Isn't the fiscal year for the UK different, like the federal government here? Their first quarter ends in the summer. So that would mean Harry was telling the truth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To be clear Lilibet is 21 days old. What responsible parent would get on an airplane to a foreign country with a newborn baby even preCovid? If this thread is any indication of the idiocy Megan and Harry have to deal with, than I definitely feel for them. I would not have the patience for such foolishness, it’s one thing to attack H&M but all bets are off when innocent babies are involved.

+1

I was told not to bring my baby near a crowd of people until she had her first shots. no way would i take a 21 day old baby on a plane.

You know they aren't going to fly commercial, right? There wouldn't be a crowd.

If anyone here has flown 3-4 weeks postpartum please let us know your experience (and also why). I would think it would still be a little uncomfortable and only something I'd do for an emergency or funeral.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To be clear Lilibet is 21 days old. What responsible parent would get on an airplane to a foreign country with a newborn baby even preCovid? If this thread is any indication of the idiocy Megan and Harry have to deal with, than I definitely feel for them. I would not have the patience for such foolishness, it’s one thing to attack H&M but all bets are off when innocent babies are involved.

+1

I was told not to bring my baby near a crowd of people until she had her first shots. no way would i take a 21 day old baby on a plane.

You know they aren't going to fly commercial, right? There wouldn't be a crowd.

Get a grip. Even on a private plane there is a pilot and staff in a relatively small space. Aside from that no one 21 days after giving birth wants to deal with an infant crying because their ears popped on a flight of that length. LAX to London is almost 12 hours. There’s a lot to criticize them for but this is just cuckoo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To be clear Lilibet is 21 days old. What responsible parent would get on an airplane to a foreign country with a newborn baby even preCovid? If this thread is any indication of the idiocy Megan and Harry have to deal with, than I definitely feel for them. I would not have the patience for such foolishness, it’s one thing to attack H&M but all bets are off when innocent babies are involved.

+1

I was told not to bring my baby near a crowd of people until she had her first shots. no way would i take a 21 day old baby on a plane.

You know they aren't going to fly commercial, right? There wouldn't be a crowd.

Get a grip. Even on a private plane there is a pilot and staff in a relatively small space. Aside from that no one 21 days after giving birth wants to deal with an infant crying because their ears popped on a flight of that length. LAX to London is almost 12 hours. There’s a lot to criticize them for but this is just cuckoo.

I'm not criticizing, but people are talking about things that aren't relevant. Like a "crowd". There are plenty of reasons not to travel, but acting like would be traveling on a flying Greyhound is not one of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So how much for Harry and how much for Will?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/harry-charles-finances-royal-palace/2021/06/24/675411b0-d4ca-11eb-b39f-05a2d776b1f4_story.html

Prince Charles continued to financially support the Duke and Duchess of Sussex after they stepped down as senior members of the British royal family, according to financial accounts released Thursday.

Prince Charles’s office, Clarence House, published in its annual accounts that Charles paid his sons, Prince William and Prince Harry, and their families, a sum of $6.3 million. The annual report covers the period from April 1, 2020, to March 31, 2021. It’s not broken down by family.

Harry previously had told Oprah Winfrey that his family "literally cut me off financially" in the first quarter of 2020. He said he had to use money left to him by his mother, Princess Diana, to help pay for security for his family.

A spokesman for Clarence House told the BBC that “the Prince of Wales allocated a substantial sum” to Harry and Meghan, the duke and duchess, last year “to support them” with their transition in stepping down as senior members of the British royal family and relocating to California.

Is anyone surprised that Harry’s version of “cut off” means only getting millions of pounds? And when he said he was cut off in the “first quarter,” he really meant summer?

Isn't the fiscal year for the UK different, like the federal government here? Their first quarter ends in the summer. So that would mean Harry was telling the truth.

From what I've read, the money covers the period from April 1st 2020 to April 1st 2021.

The fiscal year in the UK may be different from the rest of the world, but Harry is from the UK.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I agree with you, and that’s what makes it unconscionable. The timing of the “allegations “ did, indeed cast a bad light on Meghan and Harry — as it seems it was intended to do. If interest in the investigation sputters out, or if nothing is reported, there will forever be a hazy sense that Meghan did something mean and bullying — without anyone having to provide either specific details of what she actually supposedly did, or any specific resolution. So hazy allegations smearing Meghan’s behavior, character, and fitness are actually noxiously bullying in and of themselves — as long as they remain unsubstantiated. Pretty twisted stuff.

But isn't that, though, what H&M did to the royal family? Someone said something racist about Archie. Who? Won't say. What did they say exactly? Can't share that. When did they say it? Can't say. To whom did they say it? Meg and Harry begin exchanging glances. It's the exact same thing. A hazy allegation of racism without details, its only evidentiary weight is that H&M need it to be true to fit the narrative of a poor little prince and his lady love.

The difference is that Meghan and Harry have attached their name and their word to their allegations. The bullying allegations against Meghan have no names, just a vague, ill-defined attack by a faceless entity. There's a difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To be clear Lilibet is 21 days old. What responsible parent would get on an airplane to a foreign country with a newborn baby even preCovid? If this thread is any indication of the idiocy Megan and Harry have to deal with, then I definitely feel for them. I would not have the patience for such foolishness, it’s one thing to attack H&M but all bets are off when innocent babies are involved.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I agree with you, and that’s what makes it unconscionable. The timing of the “allegations “ did, indeed cast a bad light on Meghan and Harry — as it seems it was intended to do. If interest in the investigation sputters out, or if nothing is reported, there will forever be a hazy sense that Meghan did something mean and bullying — without anyone having to provide either specific details of what she actually supposedly did, or any specific resolution. So hazy allegations smearing Meghan’s behavior, character, and fitness are actually noxiously bullying in and of themselves — as long as they remain unsubstantiated. Pretty twisted stuff.

But isn't that, though, what H&M did to the royal family? Someone said something racist about Archie. Who? Won't say. What did they say exactly? Can't share that. When did they say it? Can't say. To whom did they say it? Meg and Harry begin exchanging glances. It's the exact same thing. A hazy allegation of racism without details, its only evidentiary weight is that H&M need it to be true to fit the narrative of a poor little prince and his lady love.

The evidentiary weight of their accusations is in the royal family’s response in my opinion. They splashily announced they were going to hire a diversity czar. Then today they’re like “actually we aren’t going to do that.” Then Buckingham palace released their diversity numbers and refused to specify what the numbers are relative to positions (I.e. are any of the POCs that work for them in none household staff positions?). Kensington Palace refused to release their numbers because based on photos of their staff that are available they likely have an even smaller percentage. Then they just said “our family isn’t racist” but then it is also revealed they lobbied to be exempt from workplace racial discrimination measures. They don’t care about actually being racist but bristle at the idea of being called racist. Perhaps they think of racism as a sort of low-brow, American thing?

The fact that H&M can plausibly smear them as racists without providing receipts is really just their own chickens coming home to roost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I agree with you, and that’s what makes it unconscionable. The timing of the “allegations “ did, indeed cast a bad light on Meghan and Harry — as it seems it was intended to do. If interest in the investigation sputters out, or if nothing is reported, there will forever be a hazy sense that Meghan did something mean and bullying — without anyone having to provide either specific details of what she actually supposedly did, or any specific resolution. So hazy allegations smearing Meghan’s behavior, character, and fitness are actually noxiously bullying in and of themselves — as long as they remain unsubstantiated. Pretty twisted stuff.

But isn't that, though, what H&M did to the royal family? Someone said something racist about Archie. Who? Won't say. What did they say exactly? Can't share that. When did they say it? Can't say. To whom did they say it? Meg and Harry begin exchanging glances. It's the exact same thing. A hazy allegation of racism without details, its only evidentiary weight is that H&M need it to be true to fit the narrative of a poor little prince and his lady love.

The evidentiary weight of their accusations is in the royal family’s response in my opinion. They splashily announced they were going to hire a diversity czar. Then today they’re like “actually we aren’t going to do that.” Then Buckingham palace released their diversity numbers and refused to specify what the numbers are relative to positions (I.e. are any of the POCs that work for them in none household staff positions?). Kensington Palace refused to release their numbers because based on photos of their staff that are available they likely have an even smaller percentage. Then they just said “our family isn’t racist” but then it is also revealed they lobbied to be exempt from workplace racial discrimination measures. They don’t care about actually being racist but bristle at the idea of being called racist. Perhaps they think of racism as a sort of low-brow, American thing?

The fact that H&M can plausibly smear them as racists without providing receipts is really just their own chickens coming home to roost.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I agree with you, and that’s what makes it unconscionable. The timing of the “allegations “ did, indeed cast a bad light on Meghan and Harry — as it seems it was intended to do. If interest in the investigation sputters out, or if nothing is reported, there will forever be a hazy sense that Meghan did something mean and bullying — without anyone having to provide either specific details of what she actually supposedly did, or any specific resolution. So hazy allegations smearing Meghan’s behavior, character, and fitness are actually noxiously bullying in and of themselves — as long as they remain unsubstantiated. Pretty twisted stuff.

But isn't that, though, what H&M did to the royal family? Someone said something racist about Archie. Who? Won't say. What did they say exactly? Can't share that. When did they say it? Can't say. To whom did they say it? Meg and Harry begin exchanging glances. It's the exact same thing. A hazy allegation of racism without details, its only evidentiary weight is that H&M need it to be true to fit the narrative of a poor little prince and his lady love.

The difference is that Meghan and Harry have attached their name and their word to their allegations. The bullying allegations against Meghan have no names, just a vague, ill-defined attack by a faceless entity. There's a difference.

+100

There aren’t even formal complaints that were filed. All they have is things told to Jason Knauf (who conveniently is leaving) and an independent investigation they started a week before the Oprah interview that supposedly can’t be finished until 2022.

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[Anonymous]

Brilliant. Have never seen this segment before.