Official GA Fall 2025 Thread

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Anonymous wrote:The talent is GA in this area is very questionable. Mainly a mix of ECNL rejects and other RL talent that lacks basic skills. When those combine in a GA team, it is a recipe for disaster.

It will take time for a real GA filter( favoritism free) to start working as plenty of GA players may need to drop to Aspire or equivalent for GA to be able to compete with ECNL. Otherwise, GA is another RL platform.

With the exception of NVA and SYC, 2013 south mid-Atlantic is unwatchable. Several teams would not be competitive in ECNL-RL. I suspect the NVA and SYC teams will stay together, but it's hard to imagine any quality players who got duped into playing for another GA team this year will make the same mistake again.

I think you mean only a few RL teams would be competitive in GA. For example, Alexandria is in 10th place in GA standings. Yet they are still ranked ahead of 15 RL teams in the rankings app.

Nope, having seen Alexandria play several games, I’m telling you that they would be bottom half of ECNL-RL table. And there are at least 3 GA teams (TSJ, LOU, CDA) that are worse than Alexandria.

Currently VA United is in 10th place in RL. They are ranked 1441. Alexandria is 590. Agreed the ranking app is not “perfect” but that is a big gap.

When your DD joined her GA team, did she think she’d be playing teams just inside the top 600? Two teams from NC are outside the top 900. Loudoun outside top 1000. TSJ outside top 3000. McLean is inside top 500. That’s half the conference. Is half of GA this bad or is this conference an outlier?

That is a different question. The original statement was “Several teams would not be competitive in ECNL-RL.”

I’m unsure if any parent/player who joined a 2013 GA team had expectations of the rankings of their opponents. I do know based on scores that GA as a league is much stronger than RL. Are there good RL teams? Yes! Are there good RL players? Yes.

I guess I didn’t realize how bad RL is, so apologies for the inaccurate comparison. My point remains that GA, at least in this area, is a low quality league. I don’t understand why parents travel to Charlotte so DDs can play teams outside the top 1000 or why players who are good enough to play ECNL (and there are several at both NVA and SYC and probably more scattered around the other GA teams) would remain in GA given the level of play.

These statements are too generalized. Using 2012s as noted above, the top half of the group is pretty solid, with SYC, NVA, Alex and Charlotte. It does fall off, but the bottom half of the ECNL lists are also weak. People choose a club for many reasons, including coach, team culture and playing time. You’d be silly to think there aren’t girls on GA teams who couldn’t play ECNL, just like there are girls on ECNL teams who probably aren’t the strongest either. And with the rise of GA, those GA mid Atlantic teams are getting more games and more minutes overall because teams keep leaving the ECNL MA.

[Anonymous]

Time to move on from the ECNL vs GA crap once again. It's been established that GA parents don't care and we don't want to hear about how ECNL is better and how are DDs are horrible players compared to ECNL players.

Back on subject please.

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Anonymous wrote:Time to move on from the ECNL vs GA crap once again. It's been established that GA parents don't care and we don't want to hear about how ECNL is better and how are DDs are horrible players compared to ECNL players.

Back on subject please.

It would be nice, wouldn't it? I am guessing the "hats" who feel the need to be here saying ECNL is better are the parents of fringe players. It makes them feel better/superior somehow. The parents of the good players probably couldn't care less and are happy with their situation.

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Anonymous wrote:Time to move on from the ECNL vs GA crap once again. It's been established that GA parents don't care and we don't want to hear about how ECNL is better and how are DDs are horrible players compared to ECNL players.

Back on subject please.

It would be nice, wouldn't it? I am guessing the "hats" who feel the need to be here saying ECNL is better are the parents of fringe players. It makes them feel better/superior somehow. The parents of the good players probably couldn't care less and are happy with their situation.

No hat here. GA parent who feels like my DD was lied to. It’s not about better / worse. Not looking for great, would be happy with good, but what we have is bad (even if better than terrible RL). Can’t argue with the data. Question is whether the problem is this conference and things will get better in Champions League. Wouldn’t help my DD but perhaps it’s not a league or conference issue but, as PP suggested, a 2013 issue.

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Anonymous wrote:Time to move on from the ECNL vs GA crap once again. It's been established that GA parents don't care and we don't want to hear about how ECNL is better and how are DDs are horrible players compared to ECNL players.

Back on subject please.

It would be nice, wouldn't it? I am guessing the "hats" who feel the need to be here saying ECNL is better are the parents of fringe players. It makes them feel better/superior somehow. The parents of the good players probably couldn't care less and are happy with their situation.

No hat here. GA parent who feels like my DD was lied to. It’s not about better / worse. Not looking for great, would be happy with good, but what we have is bad (even if better than terrible RL). Can’t argue with the data. Question is whether the problem is this conference and things will get better in Champions League. Wouldn’t help my DD but perhaps it’s not a league or conference issue but, as PP suggested, a 2013 issue.

And your 2013 DD would be better off in MA, where 2 of the 3 local ECNL teams (who are undefeated in league play) just went a combined 1-5 at WAGS against GA teams?

Making an issue of driving to Charlotte is kind of funny. There are 3 top level teams in Charlotte, 1 ECNL and 2 GA. You are either driving there for 1 game against a Top 1-2 team and splitting the weekend at another site in NC or spending a full weekend there and playing 2 of the top 3 Charlotte teams. Barely makes a damn’s worth of difference.

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Anonymous wrote:Time to move on from the ECNL vs GA crap once again. It's been established that GA parents don't care and we don't want to hear about how ECNL is better and how are DDs are horrible players compared to ECNL players.

Back on subject please.

It would be nice, wouldn't it? I am guessing the "hats" who feel the need to be here saying ECNL is better are the parents of fringe players. It makes them feel better/superior somehow. The parents of the good players probably couldn't care less and are happy with their situation.

No hat here. GA parent who feels like my DD was lied to. It’s not about better / worse. Not looking for great, would be happy with good, but what we have is bad (even if better than terrible RL). Can’t argue with the data. Question is whether the problem is this conference and things will get better in Champions League. Wouldn’t help my DD but perhaps it’s not a league or conference issue but, as PP suggested, a 2013 issue.

And your 2013 DD would be better off in MA, where 2 of the 3 local ECNL teams (who are undefeated in league play) just went a combined 1-5 at WAGS against GA teams?

Making an issue of driving to Charlotte is kind of funny. There are 3 top level teams in Charlotte, 1 ECNL and 2 GA. You are either driving there for 1 game against a Top 1-2 team and splitting the weekend at another site in NC or spending a full weekend there and playing 2 of the top 3 Charlotte teams. Barely makes a damn’s worth of difference.

It looks like the previous poster was more indicating that his GA club had hyped up how good the competition would be in GA. And while there are some strong GA teams there are also some who are “building”.
In looking at the 2013 standings there are 3 teams with a 20+ goal differential. In 2012 there is 1, 2011 there is 1 and 2010 there are 2. So it does seem there is a bit more of a talent range in 2013 currently.
I do think that talent range will get smaller next year. I think it is likely that TSJ moves to Aspire. I also think it is likely some of the RL girls at Arlington, GFR and Vienna will migrate to GA.

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Anonymous wrote:Time to move on from the ECNL vs GA crap once again. It's been established that GA parents don't care and we don't want to hear about how ECNL is better and how are DDs are horrible players compared to ECNL players.

Back on subject please.

It would be nice, wouldn't it? I am guessing the "hats" who feel the need to be here saying ECNL is better are the parents of fringe players. It makes them feel better/superior somehow. The parents of the good players probably couldn't care less and are happy with their situation.

No hat here. GA parent who feels like my DD was lied to. It’s not about better / worse. Not looking for great, would be happy with good, but what we have is bad (even if better than terrible RL). Can’t argue with the data. Question is whether the problem is this conference and things will get better in Champions League. Wouldn’t help my DD but perhaps it’s not a league or conference issue but, as PP suggested, a 2013 issue.

And your 2013 DD would be better off in MA, where 2 of the 3 local ECNL teams (who are undefeated in league play) just went a combined 1-5 at WAGS against GA teams?

Making an issue of driving to Charlotte is kind of funny. There are 3 top level teams in Charlotte, 1 ECNL and 2 GA. You are either driving there for 1 game against a Top 1-2 team and splitting the weekend at another site in NC or spending a full weekend there and playing 2 of the top 3 Charlotte teams. Barely makes a damn’s worth of difference.

It looks like the previous poster was more indicating that his GA club had hyped up how good the competition would be in GA. And while there are some strong GA teams there are also some who are “building”.
In looking at the 2013 standings there are 3 teams with a 20+ goal differential. In 2012 there is 1, 2011 there is 1 and 2010 there are 2. So it does seem there is a bit more of a talent range in 2013 currently.
I do think that talent range will get smaller next year. I think it is likely that TSJ moves to Aspire. I also think it is likely some of the RL girls at Arlington, GFR and Vienna will migrate to GA.

Perhaps, but a little bizarre to complain about the quality and mention traveling to Charlotte, if you are an SYC parent and your one L was in Charlotte, or a VR parent and your team won 1-0 and 4-2 against the Charlotte teams, etc.

On your other point, my DD’s GA team has already had RL players showing up to train/tryout, so agree with you there.

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Anonymous wrote:Time to move on from the ECNL vs GA crap once again. It's been established that GA parents don't care and we don't want to hear about how ECNL is better and how are DDs are horrible players compared to ECNL players.

Back on subject please.

It would be nice, wouldn't it? I am guessing the "hats" who feel the need to be here saying ECNL is better are the parents of fringe players. It makes them feel better/superior somehow. The parents of the good players probably couldn't care less and are happy with their situation.

No hat here. GA parent who feels like my DD was lied to. It’s not about better / worse. Not looking for great, would be happy with good, but what we have is bad (even if better than terrible RL). Can’t argue with the data. Question is whether the problem is this conference and things will get better in Champions League. Wouldn’t help my DD but perhaps it’s not a league or conference issue but, as PP suggested, a 2013 issue.

And your 2013 DD would be better off in MA, where 2 of the 3 local ECNL teams (who are undefeated in league play) just went a combined 1-5 at WAGS against GA teams?

Making an issue of driving to Charlotte is kind of funny. There are 3 top level teams in Charlotte, 1 ECNL and 2 GA. You are either driving there for 1 game against a Top 1-2 team and splitting the weekend at another site in NC or spending a full weekend there and playing 2 of the top 3 Charlotte teams. Barely makes a damn’s worth of difference.

It looks like the previous poster was more indicating that his GA club had hyped up how good the competition would be in GA. And while there are some strong GA teams there are also some who are “building”.
In looking at the 2013 standings there are 3 teams with a 20+ goal differential. In 2012 there is 1, 2011 there is 1 and 2010 there are 2. So it does seem there is a bit more of a talent range in 2013 currently.
I do think that talent range will get smaller next year. I think it is likely that TSJ moves to Aspire. I also think it is likely some of the RL girls at Arlington, GFR and Vienna will migrate to GA.

Perhaps, but a little bizarre to complain about the quality and mention traveling to Charlotte, if you are an SYC parent and your one L was in Charlotte, or a VR parent and your team won 1-0 and 4-2 against the Charlotte teams, etc.

On your other point, my DD’s GA team has already had RL players showing up to train/tryout, so agree with you there.

Rankings app has Wake at 600 and CDA at 1075. Is it worth traveling to Charlotte for that? Not sure what you’re arguing about, my point is factual: the bottom half of GA south MA includes a bunch of really bad teams, so the games are a waste of time for the two or three quality teams.

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Anonymous wrote:Time to move on from the ECNL vs GA crap once again. It's been established that GA parents don't care and we don't want to hear about how ECNL is better and how are DDs are horrible players compared to ECNL players.

Back on subject please.

It would be nice, wouldn't it? I am guessing the "hats" who feel the need to be here saying ECNL is better are the parents of fringe players. It makes them feel better/superior somehow. The parents of the good players probably couldn't care less and are happy with their situation.

No hat here. GA parent who feels like my DD was lied to. It’s not about better / worse. Not looking for great, would be happy with good, but what we have is bad (even if better than terrible RL). Can’t argue with the data. Question is whether the problem is this conference and things will get better in Champions League. Wouldn’t help my DD but perhaps it’s not a league or conference issue but, as PP suggested, a 2013 issue.

And your 2013 DD would be better off in MA, where 2 of the 3 local ECNL teams (who are undefeated in league play) just went a combined 1-5 at WAGS against GA teams?

Making an issue of driving to Charlotte is kind of funny. There are 3 top level teams in Charlotte, 1 ECNL and 2 GA. You are either driving there for 1 game against a Top 1-2 team and splitting the weekend at another site in NC or spending a full weekend there and playing 2 of the top 3 Charlotte teams. Barely makes a damn’s worth of difference.

It looks like the previous poster was more indicating that his GA club had hyped up how good the competition would be in GA. And while there are some strong GA teams there are also some who are “building”.
In looking at the 2013 standings there are 3 teams with a 20+ goal differential. In 2012 there is 1, 2011 there is 1 and 2010 there are 2. So it does seem there is a bit more of a talent range in 2013 currently.
I do think that talent range will get smaller next year. I think it is likely that TSJ moves to Aspire. I also think it is likely some of the RL girls at Arlington, GFR and Vienna will migrate to GA.

There are some very good teams in GA but you will mostly only see that at the national events. U13 & U14 don't attend most national events unless you are at a Champions Cup club. In GA there is a huge drop off in talent and attention after the Champions Cup clubs unlike ECNL which is much more equally distributed. If you are at a Champions Cup club, your U13 will be in California in December playing against top clubs like Top Hat, City SC, Lou Fusz. They will also get to be in Florida in March playing these same top clubs. These events are well attended by college scouts and there are only 16 clubs (out of 100ish) that get to play these events. If you are at one of these clubs the recruiting opportunities are on par with ECNL. Just check how many commits clubs like Top Hat and Beadling are getting. The vast majority of D1 commits coming from GA are from the Champions Cup clubs. There is a huge dropoff after that. Each conference in GA generally has two Champions Cup clubs based on the previous year standings. Those clubs are the kings while the rest fight for scraps and generally clubs at the top stay at the top and you'll see mostly the same clubs among the 16 chosen ones every year. In GA you really want to be at one of the Champions Cup clubs so you can be at the exclusive events.

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Anonymous wrote:Time to move on from the ECNL vs GA crap once again. It's been established that GA parents don't care and we don't want to hear about how ECNL is better and how are DDs are horrible players compared to ECNL players.

Back on subject please.

It would be nice, wouldn't it? I am guessing the "hats" who feel the need to be here saying ECNL is better are the parents of fringe players. It makes them feel better/superior somehow. The parents of the good players probably couldn't care less and are happy with their situation.

No hat here. GA parent who feels like my DD was lied to. It’s not about better / worse. Not looking for great, would be happy with good, but what we have is bad (even if better than terrible RL). Can’t argue with the data. Question is whether the problem is this conference and things will get better in Champions League. Wouldn’t help my DD but perhaps it’s not a league or conference issue but, as PP suggested, a 2013 issue.

And your 2013 DD would be better off in MA, where 2 of the 3 local ECNL teams (who are undefeated in league play) just went a combined 1-5 at WAGS against GA teams?

Making an issue of driving to Charlotte is kind of funny. There are 3 top level teams in Charlotte, 1 ECNL and 2 GA. You are either driving there for 1 game against a Top 1-2 team and splitting the weekend at another site in NC or spending a full weekend there and playing 2 of the top 3 Charlotte teams. Barely makes a damn’s worth of difference.

It looks like the previous poster was more indicating that his GA club had hyped up how good the competition would be in GA. And while there are some strong GA teams there are also some who are “building”.
In looking at the 2013 standings there are 3 teams with a 20+ goal differential. In 2012 there is 1, 2011 there is 1 and 2010 there are 2. So it does seem there is a bit more of a talent range in 2013 currently.
I do think that talent range will get smaller next year. I think it is likely that TSJ moves to Aspire. I also think it is likely some of the RL girls at Arlington, GFR and Vienna will migrate to GA.

There are some very good teams in GA but you will mostly only see that at the national events. U13 & U14 don't attend most national events unless you are at a Champions Cup club. In GA there is a huge drop off in talent and attention after the Champions Cup clubs unlike ECNL which is much more equally distributed. If you are at a Champions Cup club, your U13 will be in California in December playing against top clubs like Top Hat, City SC, Lou Fusz. They will also get to be in Florida in March playing these same top clubs. These events are well attended by college scouts and there are only 16 clubs (out of 100ish) that get to play these events. If you are at one of these clubs the recruiting opportunities are on par with ECNL. Just check how many commits clubs like Top Hat and Beadling are getting. The vast majority of D1 commits coming from GA are from the Champions Cup clubs. There is a huge dropoff after that. Each conference in GA generally has two Champions Cup clubs based on the previous year standings. Those clubs are the kings while the rest fight for scraps and generally clubs at the top stay at the top and you'll see mostly the same clubs among the 16 chosen ones every year. In GA you really want to be at one of the Champions Cup clubs so you can be at the exclusive events.

They'd get much better competition if they could be aligned with MD/PA/NJ, but the HS season doesn't allow for that. ECNL NA and GA MA-North are far superior.

[Anonymous]

Easy, for GA teams or ECNL teams. Make it to Nationals, and will make to compete with the best of Country. Nothing new!

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Anonymous wrote:Time to move on from the ECNL vs GA crap once again. It's been established that GA parents don't care and we don't want to hear about how ECNL is better and how are DDs are horrible players compared to ECNL players.

Back on subject please.

It would be nice, wouldn't it? I am guessing the "hats" who feel the need to be here saying ECNL is better are the parents of fringe players. It makes them feel better/superior somehow. The parents of the good players probably couldn't care less and are happy with their situation.

No hat here. GA parent who feels like my DD was lied to. It’s not about better / worse. Not looking for great, would be happy with good, but what we have is bad (even if better than terrible RL). Can’t argue with the data. Question is whether the problem is this conference and things will get better in Champions League. Wouldn’t help my DD but perhaps it’s not a league or conference issue but, as PP suggested, a 2013 issue.

And your 2013 DD would be better off in MA, where 2 of the 3 local ECNL teams (who are undefeated in league play) just went a combined 1-5 at WAGS against GA teams?

Making an issue of driving to Charlotte is kind of funny. There are 3 top level teams in Charlotte, 1 ECNL and 2 GA. You are either driving there for 1 game against a Top 1-2 team and splitting the weekend at another site in NC or spending a full weekend there and playing 2 of the top 3 Charlotte teams. Barely makes a damn’s worth of difference.

It looks like the previous poster was more indicating that his GA club had hyped up how good the competition would be in GA. And while there are some strong GA teams there are also some who are “building”.
In looking at the 2013 standings there are 3 teams with a 20+ goal differential. In 2012 there is 1, 2011 there is 1 and 2010 there are 2. So it does seem there is a bit more of a talent range in 2013 currently.
I do think that talent range will get smaller next year. I think it is likely that TSJ moves to Aspire. I also think it is likely some of the RL girls at Arlington, GFR and Vienna will migrate to GA.

Perhaps, but a little bizarre to complain about the quality and mention traveling to Charlotte, if you are an SYC parent and your one L was in Charlotte, or a VR parent and your team won 1-0 and 4-2 against the Charlotte teams, etc.

On your other point, my DD’s GA team has already had RL players showing up to train/tryout, so agree with you there.

Rankings app has Wake at 600 and CDA at 1075. Is it worth traveling to Charlotte for that? Not sure what you’re arguing about, my point is factual: the bottom half of GA south MA includes a bunch of really bad teams, so the games are a waste of time for the two or three quality teams.

Both leagues have bottom feeders, What is the difference in ECNL to go down and play 2011 NCFC, Hammerheads, Fushion, Beach? So none of this talk between GA or ECNL matters until they get to the big dance, which historically both have failed to bring home the big one

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Anonymous wrote:Time to move on from the ECNL vs GA crap once again. It's been established that GA parents don't care and we don't want to hear about how ECNL is better and how are DDs are horrible players compared to ECNL players.

Back on subject please.

It would be nice, wouldn't it? I am guessing the "hats" who feel the need to be here saying ECNL is better are the parents of fringe players. It makes them feel better/superior somehow. The parents of the good players probably couldn't care less and are happy with their situation.

No hat here. GA parent who feels like my DD was lied to. It’s not about better / worse. Not looking for great, would be happy with good, but what we have is bad (even if better than terrible RL). Can’t argue with the data. Question is whether the problem is this conference and things will get better in Champions League. Wouldn’t help my DD but perhaps it’s not a league or conference issue but, as PP suggested, a 2013 issue.

And your 2013 DD would be better off in MA, where 2 of the 3 local ECNL teams (who are undefeated in league play) just went a combined 1-5 at WAGS against GA teams?

Making an issue of driving to Charlotte is kind of funny. There are 3 top level teams in Charlotte, 1 ECNL and 2 GA. You are either driving there for 1 game against a Top 1-2 team and splitting the weekend at another site in NC or spending a full weekend there and playing 2 of the top 3 Charlotte teams. Barely makes a damn’s worth of difference.

It looks like the previous poster was more indicating that his GA club had hyped up how good the competition would be in GA. And while there are some strong GA teams there are also some who are “building”.
In looking at the 2013 standings there are 3 teams with a 20+ goal differential. In 2012 there is 1, 2011 there is 1 and 2010 there are 2. So it does seem there is a bit more of a talent range in 2013 currently.
I do think that talent range will get smaller next year. I think it is likely that TSJ moves to Aspire. I also think it is likely some of the RL girls at Arlington, GFR and Vienna will migrate to GA.

Perhaps, but a little bizarre to complain about the quality and mention traveling to Charlotte, if you are an SYC parent and your one L was in Charlotte, or a VR parent and your team won 1-0 and 4-2 against the Charlotte teams, etc.

On your other point, my DD’s GA team has already had RL players showing up to train/tryout, so agree with you there.

Rankings app has Wake at 600 and CDA at 1075. Is it worth traveling to Charlotte for that? Not sure what you’re arguing about, my point is factual: the bottom half of GA south MA includes a bunch of really bad teams, so the games are a waste of time for the two or three quality teams.

Both leagues have bottom feeders, What is the difference in ECNL to go down and play 2011 NCFC, Hammerheads, Fushion, Beach? So none of this talk between GA or ECNL matters until they get to the big dance, which historically both have failed to bring home the big one

Right and like I said above, if they were with the MD/PA/NJ teams the competition is better top to bottom.

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Anonymous wrote:Easy, for GA teams or ECNL teams. Make it to Nationals, and will make to compete with the best of Country. Nothing new!

No that's not true for GA. Unlike ECNL, GA's best events are exclusive events (called Champions Cup) just for certain clubs. Even if your team is in last place, as long as you are part of these clubs you still get to compete in the Champions Cup tournament events. And even if your team is in first place you don't get to participate unless you are at one of the designated clubs.

What you are talking about is playoffs (Nationals). Yes, being on a good team will get you to Nationals but in GA this is just one of their three national events, and it is the least attended by colleges because of the time of year.

In GA you want to be at the December and March events which are exclusive to Champions Cup clubs regardless of team records.

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Anonymous wrote:Time to move on from the ECNL vs GA crap once again. It's been established that GA parents don't care and we don't want to hear about how ECNL is better and how are DDs are horrible players compared to ECNL players.

Back on subject please.

It would be nice, wouldn't it? I am guessing the "hats" who feel the need to be here saying ECNL is better are the parents of fringe players. It makes them feel better/superior somehow. The parents of the good players probably couldn't care less and are happy with their situation.

No hat here. GA parent who feels like my DD was lied to. It’s not about better / worse. Not looking for great, would be happy with good, but what we have is bad (even if better than terrible RL). Can’t argue with the data. Question is whether the problem is this conference and things will get better in Champions League. Wouldn’t help my DD but perhaps it’s not a league or conference issue but, as PP suggested, a 2013 issue.

And your 2013 DD would be better off in MA, where 2 of the 3 local ECNL teams (who are undefeated in league play) just went a combined 1-5 at WAGS against GA teams?

Making an issue of driving to Charlotte is kind of funny. There are 3 top level teams in Charlotte, 1 ECNL and 2 GA. You are either driving there for 1 game against a Top 1-2 team and splitting the weekend at another site in NC or spending a full weekend there and playing 2 of the top 3 Charlotte teams. Barely makes a damn’s worth of difference.

It looks like the previous poster was more indicating that his GA club had hyped up how good the competition would be in GA. And while there are some strong GA teams there are also some who are “building”.
In looking at the 2013 standings there are 3 teams with a 20+ goal differential. In 2012 there is 1, 2011 there is 1 and 2010 there are 2. So it does seem there is a bit more of a talent range in 2013 currently.
I do think that talent range will get smaller next year. I think it is likely that TSJ moves to Aspire. I also think it is likely some of the RL girls at Arlington, GFR and Vienna will migrate to GA.

Perhaps, but a little bizarre to complain about the quality and mention traveling to Charlotte, if you are an SYC parent and your one L was in Charlotte, or a VR parent and your team won 1-0 and 4-2 against the Charlotte teams, etc.

On your other point, my DD’s GA team has already had RL players showing up to train/tryout, so agree with you there.

Rankings app has Wake at 600 and CDA at 1075. Is it worth traveling to Charlotte for that? Not sure what you’re arguing about, my point is factual: the bottom half of GA south MA includes a bunch of really bad teams, so the games are a waste of time for the two or three quality teams.

Both leagues have bottom feeders, What is the difference in ECNL to go down and play 2011 NCFC, Hammerheads, Fushion, Beach? So none of this talk between GA or ECNL matters until they get to the big dance, which historically both have failed to bring home the big one

Hamnergeads, beach, fusion all have success in certain age groups.