Dr. Davis---who has not had success?

[Anonymous]

Would anyone be willing to share their experiences if they did not have success with Dr. Owen Davis?

[Anonymous]

I have only been through one cycle so far. I got pregnant but the pregnancy ended in miscarriage at 8 weeks. I am waiting for my period and then will start my second cycle...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have only been through one cycle so far. I got pregnant but the pregnancy ended in miscarriage at 8 weeks. I am waiting for my period and then will start my second cycle...

New poster. I was thinking to start a similar thread but the OP beat me to it.

Would you mind sharing your experience? What is your age and diagnosis and how they tackled it differrently than a local clinic would?
I realize this is a very general question, but would like to hear from the trenches before commiting to cycle in NY.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have only been through one cycle so far. I got pregnant but the pregnancy ended in miscarriage at 8 weeks. I am waiting for my period and then will start my second cycle...

New poster. I was thinking to start a similar thread but the OP beat me to it.

Would you mind sharing your experience? What is your age and diagnosis and how they tackled it differrently than a local clinic would?
I realize this is a very general question, but would like to hear from the trenches before commiting to cycle in NY.

Sure. I've posted about my experience here before, but I couldn't find it.

I'm 33, and have been at TTC #2 for about a year and a half now (with no breaks that weren't related to loss). Started at Shady Grove, where I was diagnosed with borderline DOR after a couple abysmal cycles (cycles where nothing would go to blast). All told, I went through 3 fresh cycles at Shady Grove on super high stims -- 450 IU Follistim and 225-300 Menopur. I did get pregnant on the first cycle but lost the baby in the 2nd trimester to T21. After the next two failures, I asked to try a low-dose approach since my child from another clinic was conceived via mini IVF when I was 30, but my doctor was opposed. He didn't want to change anything much about my protocol, believing that it's all about luck. So, I dropped out of Shared Risk and moved to Cornell after a promising consult.

At Cornell things were incredibly different. Dr. Davis wanted to try much lower dosages, a day 3 transfer and coculture. I never went above 150 IU of Follistim and 75 Menopur. We started off with Clomid, which I think did wonders for my egg production. A few other small differences and tweaks along the way. I really felt like someone was looking closely at my progression every day as opposed to sticking to a predetermined protocol. In fact, at Cornell you don't even get a protocol sheet when you start, so I had no idea what to expect every day. I ended up with 25 eggs retrieved. At Shady Grove I never got more than 12, and usually closer to 8. Here's where things at Cornell started to fall apart for me. Of the 25 eggs, 12 were mature, 9 were fertilized. On day 3, all 9 looked good, so I felt like I was on top of the world when I went in for transfer. 2 embryos were transferred but then by day 6 we were told that none of the remaining 7 had made it to freeze. I was really hoping for some insurance in the even of a BFN or loss.

The loss did occur at 8 weeks, as I mentioned. The embryo tested normal after the D&C, but it was female, so some REs will consider this to be inconclusive.

I had a follow-up call with both Dr. Davis and my RE at Shady Grove. Cornell isn't cheap and I'm covered at SG, so I wanted to see if my RE might change his tune given my improvement at Cornell (he did and is now willing to follow the same protocol, for the most part). I have decided, however, to give it one last go at Cornell. We'll transfer 3 embryos this time (!) and just hope for the best. We won't change anything, but I will do some RPL-type testing beforehand once my beta is negative.

[Anonymous]

thank you for this. Cornell is my next step if my current cycle doesn't work out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have only been through one cycle so far. I got pregnant but the pregnancy ended in miscarriage at 8 weeks. I am waiting for my period and then will start my second cycle...

New poster. I was thinking to start a similar thread but the OP beat me to it.

Would you mind sharing your experience? What is your age and diagnosis and how they tackled it differrently than a local clinic would?
I realize this is a very general question, but would like to hear from the trenches before commiting to cycle in NY.

Sure. I've posted about my experience here before, but I couldn't find it.

I'm 33, and have been at TTC #2 for about a year and a half now (with no breaks that weren't related to loss). Started at Shady Grove, where I was diagnosed with borderline DOR after a couple abysmal cycles (cycles where nothing would go to blast). All told, I went through 3 fresh cycles at Shady Grove on super high stims -- 450 IU Follistim and 225-300 Menopur. I did get pregnant on the first cycle but lost the baby in the 2nd trimester to T21. After the next two failures, I asked to try a low-dose approach since my child from another clinic was conceived via mini IVF when I was 30, but my doctor was opposed. He didn't want to change anything much about my protocol, believing that it's all about luck. So, I dropped out of Shared Risk and moved to Cornell after a promising consult.

At Cornell things were incredibly different. Dr. Davis wanted to try much lower dosages, a day 3 transfer and coculture. I never went above 150 IU of Follistim and 75 Menopur. We started off with Clomid, which I think did wonders for my egg production. A few other small differences and tweaks along the way. I really felt like someone was looking closely at my progression every day as opposed to sticking to a predetermined protocol. In fact, at Cornell you don't even get a protocol sheet when you start, so I had no idea what to expect every day. I ended up with 25 eggs retrieved. At Shady Grove I never got more than 12, and usually closer to 8. Here's where things at Cornell started to fall apart for me. Of the 25 eggs, 12 were mature, 9 were fertilized. On day 3, all 9 looked good, so I felt like I was on top of the world when I went in for transfer. 2 embryos were transferred but then by day 6 we were told that none of the remaining 7 had made it to freeze. I was really hoping for some insurance in the even of a BFN or loss.

The loss did occur at 8 weeks, as I mentioned. The embryo tested normal after the D&C, but it was female, so some REs will consider this to be inconclusive.

I had a follow-up call with both Dr. Davis and my RE at Shady Grove. Cornell isn't cheap and I'm covered at SG, so I wanted to see if my RE might change his tune given my improvement at Cornell (he did and is now willing to follow the same protocol, for the most part). I have decided, however, to give it one last go at Cornell. We'll transfer 3 embryos this time (!) and just hope for the best. We won't change anything, but I will do some RPL-type testing beforehand once my beta is negative.

Thank you so much for your reply. I am older but went through some similar stuff, a high dose protocol at SG which the RE refused to tweak anything after failure, nothing to freeze. Do you remember what your Clomid intake was and at which point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have only been through one cycle so far. I got pregnant but the pregnancy ended in miscarriage at 8 weeks. I am waiting for my period and then will start my second cycle...

New poster. I was thinking to start a similar thread but the OP beat me to it.

Would you mind sharing your experience? What is your age and diagnosis and how they tackled it differrently than a local clinic would?
I realize this is a very general question, but would like to hear from the trenches before commiting to cycle in NY.

Sure. I've posted about my experience here before, but I couldn't find it.

I'm 33, and have been at TTC #2 for about a year and a half now (with no breaks that weren't related to loss). Started at Shady Grove, where I was diagnosed with borderline DOR after a couple abysmal cycles (cycles where nothing would go to blast). All told, I went through 3 fresh cycles at Shady Grove on super high stims -- 450 IU Follistim and 225-300 Menopur. I did get pregnant on the first cycle but lost the baby in the 2nd trimester to T21. After the next two failures, I asked to try a low-dose approach since my child from another clinic was conceived via mini IVF when I was 30, but my doctor was opposed. He didn't want to change anything much about my protocol, believing that it's all about luck. So, I dropped out of Shared Risk and moved to Cornell after a promising consult.

At Cornell things were incredibly different. Dr. Davis wanted to try much lower dosages, a day 3 transfer and coculture. I never went above 150 IU of Follistim and 75 Menopur. We started off with Clomid, which I think did wonders for my egg production. A few other small differences and tweaks along the way. I really felt like someone was looking closely at my progression every day as opposed to sticking to a predetermined protocol. In fact, at Cornell you don't even get a protocol sheet when you start, so I had no idea what to expect every day. I ended up with 25 eggs retrieved. At Shady Grove I never got more than 12, and usually closer to 8. Here's where things at Cornell started to fall apart for me. Of the 25 eggs, 12 were mature, 9 were fertilized. On day 3, all 9 looked good, so I felt like I was on top of the world when I went in for transfer. 2 embryos were transferred but then by day 6 we were told that none of the remaining 7 had made it to freeze. I was really hoping for some insurance in the even of a BFN or loss.

The loss did occur at 8 weeks, as I mentioned. The embryo tested normal after the D&C, but it was female, so some REs will consider this to be inconclusive.

I had a follow-up call with both Dr. Davis and my RE at Shady Grove. Cornell isn't cheap and I'm covered at SG, so I wanted to see if my RE might change his tune given my improvement at Cornell (he did and is now willing to follow the same protocol, for the most part). I have decided, however, to give it one last go at Cornell. We'll transfer 3 embryos this time (!) and just hope for the best. We won't change anything, but I will do some RPL-type testing beforehand once my beta is negative.

Thank you so much for your reply. I am older but went through some similar stuff, a high dose protocol at SG which the RE refused to tweak anything after failure, nothing to freeze. Do you remember what your Clomid intake was and at which point?

100 mg days 2-6. Glad to help!

[Anonymous]

OP here. Thanks for the responses. I had my consultation with Dr. Davis and his plan seemed good. I am just weary of putting all my hopes into a cycle with him. I have to get used to the idea that it might take more than one cycle, but I already have four cycles behind me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have only been through one cycle so far. I got pregnant but the pregnancy ended in miscarriage at 8 weeks. I am waiting for my period and then will start my second cycle...

New poster. I was thinking to start a similar thread but the OP beat me to it.

Would you mind sharing your experience? What is your age and diagnosis and how they tackled it differrently than a local clinic would?
I realize this is a very general question, but would like to hear from the trenches before commiting to cycle in NY.

Sure. I've posted about my experience here before, but I couldn't find it.

I'm 33, and have been at TTC #2 for about a year and a half now (with no breaks that weren't related to loss). Started at Shady Grove, where I was diagnosed with borderline DOR after a couple abysmal cycles (cycles where nothing would go to blast). All told, I went through 3 fresh cycles at Shady Grove on super high stims -- 450 IU Follistim and 225-300 Menopur. I did get pregnant on the first cycle but lost the baby in the 2nd trimester to T21. After the next two failures, I asked to try a low-dose approach since my child from another clinic was conceived via mini IVF when I was 30, but my doctor was opposed. He didn't want to change anything much about my protocol, believing that it's all about luck. So, I dropped out of Shared Risk and moved to Cornell after a promising consult.

At Cornell things were incredibly different. Dr. Davis wanted to try much lower dosages, a day 3 transfer and coculture. I never went above 150 IU of Follistim and 75 Menopur. We started off with Clomid, which I think did wonders for my egg production. A few other small differences and tweaks along the way. I really felt like someone was looking closely at my progression every day as opposed to sticking to a predetermined protocol. In fact, at Cornell you don't even get a protocol sheet when you start, so I had no idea what to expect every day. I ended up with 25 eggs retrieved. At Shady Grove I never got more than 12, and usually closer to 8. Here's where things at Cornell started to fall apart for me. Of the 25 eggs, 12 were mature, 9 were fertilized. On day 3, all 9 looked good, so I felt like I was on top of the world when I went in for transfer. 2 embryos were transferred but then by day 6 we were told that none of the remaining 7 had made it to freeze. I was really hoping for some insurance in the even of a BFN or loss.

The loss did occur at 8 weeks, as I mentioned. The embryo tested normal after the D&C, but it was female, so some REs will consider this to be inconclusive.

I had a follow-up call with both Dr. Davis and my RE at Shady Grove. Cornell isn't cheap and I'm covered at SG, so I wanted to see if my RE might change his tune given my improvement at Cornell (he did and is now willing to follow the same protocol, for the most part). I have decided, however, to give it one last go at Cornell. We'll transfer 3 embryos this time (!) and just hope for the best. We won't change anything, but I will do some RPL-type testing beforehand once my beta is negative.

Thank you so much for your reply. I am older but went through some similar stuff, a high dose protocol at SG which the RE refused to tweak anything after failure, nothing to freeze. Do you remember what your Clomid intake was and at which point?

100 mg days 2-6. Glad to help!

PP, if you happen to look at this, did you do estrogen patches in your protocol as well?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have only been through one cycle so far. I got pregnant but the pregnancy ended in miscarriage at 8 weeks. I am waiting for my period and then will start my second cycle...

New poster. I was thinking to start a similar thread but the OP beat me to it.

Would you mind sharing your experience? What is your age and diagnosis and how they tackled it differrently than a local clinic would?
I realize this is a very general question, but would like to hear from the trenches before commiting to cycle in NY.

Sure. I've posted about my experience here before, but I couldn't find it.

I'm 33, and have been at TTC #2 for about a year and a half now (with no breaks that weren't related to loss). Started at Shady Grove, where I was diagnosed with borderline DOR after a couple abysmal cycles (cycles where nothing would go to blast). All told, I went through 3 fresh cycles at Shady Grove on super high stims -- 450 IU Follistim and 225-300 Menopur. I did get pregnant on the first cycle but lost the baby in the 2nd trimester to T21. After the next two failures, I asked to try a low-dose approach since my child from another clinic was conceived via mini IVF when I was 30, but my doctor was opposed. He didn't want to change anything much about my protocol, believing that it's all about luck. So, I dropped out of Shared Risk and moved to Cornell after a promising consult.

At Cornell things were incredibly different. Dr. Davis wanted to try much lower dosages, a day 3 transfer and coculture. I never went above 150 IU of Follistim and 75 Menopur. We started off with Clomid, which I think did wonders for my egg production. A few other small differences and tweaks along the way. I really felt like someone was looking closely at my progression every day as opposed to sticking to a predetermined protocol. In fact, at Cornell you don't even get a protocol sheet when you start, so I had no idea what to expect every day. I ended up with 25 eggs retrieved. At Shady Grove I never got more than 12, and usually closer to 8. Here's where things at Cornell started to fall apart for me. Of the 25 eggs, 12 were mature, 9 were fertilized. On day 3, all 9 looked good, so I felt like I was on top of the world when I went in for transfer. 2 embryos were transferred but then by day 6 we were told that none of the remaining 7 had made it to freeze. I was really hoping for some insurance in the even of a BFN or loss.

The loss did occur at 8 weeks, as I mentioned. The embryo tested normal after the D&C, but it was female, so some REs will consider this to be inconclusive.

I had a follow-up call with both Dr. Davis and my RE at Shady Grove. Cornell isn't cheap and I'm covered at SG, so I wanted to see if my RE might change his tune given my improvement at Cornell (he did and is now willing to follow the same protocol, for the most part). I have decided, however, to give it one last go at Cornell. We'll transfer 3 embryos this time (!) and just hope for the best. We won't change anything, but I will do some RPL-type testing beforehand once my beta is negative.

Thank you so much for your reply. I am older but went through some similar stuff, a high dose protocol at SG which the RE refused to tweak anything after failure, nothing to freeze. Do you remember what your Clomid intake was and at which point?

100 mg days 2-6. Glad to help!

PP, if you happen to look at this, did you do estrogen patches in your protocol as well?

Sorry, just now seeing that this thread popped back up! Yes, I've now completed two cycles and in both did estrogen priming beforehand (no ganirelix during priming, just the patch). I would get through 3-4 patches before my period started.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have only been through one cycle so far. I got pregnant but the pregnancy ended in miscarriage at 8 weeks. I am waiting for my period and then will start my second cycle...

New poster. I was thinking to start a similar thread but the OP beat me to it.

Would you mind sharing your experience? What is your age and diagnosis and how they tackled it differrently than a local clinic would?
I realize this is a very general question, but would like to hear from the trenches before commiting to cycle in NY.

Sure. I've posted about my experience here before, but I couldn't find it.

I'm 33, and have been at TTC #2 for about a year and a half now (with no breaks that weren't related to loss). Started at Shady Grove, where I was diagnosed with borderline DOR after a couple abysmal cycles (cycles where nothing would go to blast). All told, I went through 3 fresh cycles at Shady Grove on super high stims -- 450 IU Follistim and 225-300 Menopur. I did get pregnant on the first cycle but lost the baby in the 2nd trimester to T21. After the next two failures, I asked to try a low-dose approach since my child from another clinic was conceived via mini IVF when I was 30, but my doctor was opposed. He didn't want to change anything much about my protocol, believing that it's all about luck. So, I dropped out of Shared Risk and moved to Cornell after a promising consult.

At Cornell things were incredibly different. Dr. Davis wanted to try much lower dosages, a day 3 transfer and coculture. I never went above 150 IU of Follistim and 75 Menopur. We started off with Clomid, which I think did wonders for my egg production. A few other small differences and tweaks along the way. I really felt like someone was looking closely at my progression every day as opposed to sticking to a predetermined protocol. In fact, at Cornell you don't even get a protocol sheet when you start, so I had no idea what to expect every day. I ended up with 25 eggs retrieved. At Shady Grove I never got more than 12, and usually closer to 8. Here's where things at Cornell started to fall apart for me. Of the 25 eggs, 12 were mature, 9 were fertilized. On day 3, all 9 looked good, so I felt like I was on top of the world when I went in for transfer. 2 embryos were transferred but then by day 6 we were told that none of the remaining 7 had made it to freeze. I was really hoping for some insurance in the even of a BFN or loss.

The loss did occur at 8 weeks, as I mentioned. The embryo tested normal after the D&C, but it was female, so some REs will consider this to be inconclusive.

I had a follow-up call with both Dr. Davis and my RE at Shady Grove. Cornell isn't cheap and I'm covered at SG, so I wanted to see if my RE might change his tune given my improvement at Cornell (he did and is now willing to follow the same protocol, for the most part). I have decided, however, to give it one last go at Cornell. We'll transfer 3 embryos this time (!) and just hope for the best. We won't change anything, but I will do some RPL-type testing beforehand once my beta is negative.

Thank you so much for your reply. I am older but went through some similar stuff, a high dose protocol at SG which the RE refused to tweak anything after failure, nothing to freeze. Do you remember what your Clomid intake was and at which point?

100 mg days 2-6. Glad to help!

PP, if you happen to look at this, did you do estrogen patches in your protocol as well?

Sorry, just now seeing that this thread popped back up! Yes, I've now completed two cycles and in both did estrogen priming beforehand (no ganirelix during priming, just the patch). I would get through 3-4 patches before my period started.

Are your patches vivelle dot (delivering 0.1 mg/day)? Did you use one every other day or elsehow?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have only been through one cycle so far. I got pregnant but the pregnancy ended in miscarriage at 8 weeks. I am waiting for my period and then will start my second cycle...

New poster. I was thinking to start a similar thread but the OP beat me to it.

Would you mind sharing your experience? What is your age and diagnosis and how they tackled it differrently than a local clinic would?
I realize this is a very general question, but would like to hear from the trenches before commiting to cycle in NY.

Sure. I've posted about my experience here before, but I couldn't find it.

I'm 33, and have been at TTC #2 for about a year and a half now (with no breaks that weren't related to loss). Started at Shady Grove, where I was diagnosed with borderline DOR after a couple abysmal cycles (cycles where nothing would go to blast). All told, I went through 3 fresh cycles at Shady Grove on super high stims -- 450 IU Follistim and 225-300 Menopur. I did get pregnant on the first cycle but lost the baby in the 2nd trimester to T21. After the next two failures, I asked to try a low-dose approach since my child from another clinic was conceived via mini IVF when I was 30, but my doctor was opposed. He didn't want to change anything much about my protocol, believing that it's all about luck. So, I dropped out of Shared Risk and moved to Cornell after a promising consult.

At Cornell things were incredibly different. Dr. Davis wanted to try much lower dosages, a day 3 transfer and coculture. I never went above 150 IU of Follistim and 75 Menopur. We started off with Clomid, which I think did wonders for my egg production. A few other small differences and tweaks along the way. I really felt like someone was looking closely at my progression every day as opposed to sticking to a predetermined protocol. In fact, at Cornell you don't even get a protocol sheet when you start, so I had no idea what to expect every day. I ended up with 25 eggs retrieved. At Shady Grove I never got more than 12, and usually closer to 8. Here's where things at Cornell started to fall apart for me. Of the 25 eggs, 12 were mature, 9 were fertilized. On day 3, all 9 looked good, so I felt like I was on top of the world when I went in for transfer. 2 embryos were transferred but then by day 6 we were told that none of the remaining 7 had made it to freeze. I was really hoping for some insurance in the even of a BFN or loss.

The loss did occur at 8 weeks, as I mentioned. The embryo tested normal after the D&C, but it was female, so some REs will consider this to be inconclusive.

I had a follow-up call with both Dr. Davis and my RE at Shady Grove. Cornell isn't cheap and I'm covered at SG, so I wanted to see if my RE might change his tune given my improvement at Cornell (he did and is now willing to follow the same protocol, for the most part). I have decided, however, to give it one last go at Cornell. We'll transfer 3 embryos this time (!) and just hope for the best. We won't change anything, but I will do some RPL-type testing beforehand once my beta is negative.

Thank you so much for your reply. I am older but went through some similar stuff, a high dose protocol at SG which the RE refused to tweak anything after failure, nothing to freeze. Do you remember what your Clomid intake was and at which point?

100 mg days 2-6. Glad to help!

PP, if you happen to look at this, did you do estrogen patches in your protocol as well?

Sorry, just now seeing that this thread popped back up! Yes, I've now completed two cycles and in both did estrogen priming beforehand (no ganirelix during priming, just the patch). I would get through 3-4 patches before my period started.

Are your patches vivelle dot (delivering 0.1 mg/day)? Did you use one every other day or elsehow?

Yes, I think it was Vivelle, and I changed it every other day until my period.