Chrissy Teigen really loves attention

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Anonymous wrote:What bothers me is not the specific things she said. Even the "kill yourself" comments, while vile and indefensible, wouldn't be enough to make me write her off if it was just once and she clearly didn't mean it literally (everyone makes mistakes).

Nope, what grosses me out is the whole infrastructure of her personality. I have met people like this. They treat people that they view as "above" them, or on their level, incredibly well. They are world class ass kissers. Sometimes they are great at this kind of connecting behavior -- oh let me introduce you to my amazing stylist, oh hey we know the manager at that place let me get you a good table, etc. It's all designed to ensure that the people they have deemed to matter like them.

And then they treat the people they deem below them like trash. I think sometimes it's self-protective, like if they can destroy people who they believe to be a rung or two lower, that will improve their standing. But I also think it's a weird flex, like they are testing to see how powerful they are. If I tell one of the people above me that one of the people below me is trash, will they take my word for it? If I complain to the manager at this restaurant, will that waiter be punished and will I get a comped meal? They are trying to figure out where they rank and this is one way to do it.

To me, this might be the most toxic behavior I've ever encountered that wasn't illegal. It's just this zero sum approach to life. And there are no real values other than power and clout. When they are kind, it has no real meaning except that they think you have more power than them. And when they are cruel, it's not really even personal (though I'm sure it feels that way), it's based entirely on this mental calculation they've made about which people are worth treating well and which are not.

It's not that she said a terrible thing once ten years ago. It's that she has a pattern of behavior where she treats people who are more famous or more powerful well, and people who are less famous or powerful like garbage. She is soulless.

Yes. So much truth to so much of this. I have known this kind of person too.

Yes. Let me add my admiration to how OR summarized this.

I really believe this is the dynamic and it works in terms of the reputational effects with a credulous, stupid, materialistic and partisan audience, aka her fans, followers, whatevers. I have a girlfriend who purports to be bewildered at Teigen because she raised ACLU money! She seems like she supports women! If you point out, well which women?, the observational skills plummet.

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Anonymous wrote:She is so evil.

It appears she thinks he is racist?

Leona Lewis just came out calling him a hypocrite and bully. Some other women have come out claiming he used racial slurs to their face.

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To think I bought her cookbooks, her mom’s cookbook and her Cravings pots and pans from Target. Time for a trip to Goodwill. Blech! 🙄

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I’m really not sure why Leona Lewis wants a piece of this mess. Teigan has a pattern of behavior and the Costello situation reinforces that regardless of him sucking or not.

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At this point, more than one woman has said that Costello called them the n word to their face. One said his PR team came up with the photoshopped cover story, but that even after that he used “n-“

I think the jury is still out on that aspect of the story.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m really not sure why Leona Lewis wants a piece of this mess. Teigan has a pattern of behavior and the Costello situation reinforces that regardless of him sucking or not.

Especially with her team continuing to ask that he dress her.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m really not sure why Leona Lewis wants a piece of this mess. Teigan has a pattern of behavior and the Costello situation reinforces that regardless of him sucking or not.

Chrissy Teigan bullied a bunch of people online. Facts. But this costello thing has seemed different to me because it is clear in these text messages that she is not trying to bully him, she believes he is racist and is furious about that. He is not a random Lindsay Lohan like pop culture person she decided to eviscerate, he's a random project runway contestant, and she's not really saying anything mean to him other than that she doesn't want to talk to him because she thinks he's racist.

So IMO, and this isn't a defense of Chrissy Teigan at large, just this specific thing, I think he's taking advantage of the fact that people are piling on her to try to position himself as a victim of her to get rid of this racist label. And if I were someone to whom he had been racist, as Leona Lewis seems to be, this would enrage me and I would speak up too. I think the fact that she's speaking up means its certainly true because there is no reason to enter into this yucky public feud unless you have real strong feelings about it. And if your real strong feelings were about giving Teigan cover you would have spoken up a couple weeks ago.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m really not sure why Leona Lewis wants a piece of this mess. Teigan has a pattern of behavior and the Costello situation reinforces that regardless of him sucking or not.

Chrissy Teigan bullied a bunch of people online. Facts. But this costello thing has seemed different to me because it is clear in these text messages that she is not trying to bully him, she believes he is racist and is furious about that. He is not a random Lindsay Lohan like pop culture person she decided to eviscerate, he's a random project runway contestant, and she's not really saying anything mean to him other than that she doesn't want to talk to him because she thinks he's racist.

So IMO, and this isn't a defense of Chrissy Teigan at large, just this specific thing, I think he's taking advantage of the fact that people are piling on her to try to position himself as a victim of her to get rid of this racist label. And if I were someone to whom he had been racist, as Leona Lewis seems to be, this would enrage me and I would speak up too. I think the fact that she's speaking up means its certainly true because there is no reason to enter into this yucky public feud unless you have real strong feelings about it. And if your real strong feelings were about giving Teigan cover you would have spoken up a couple weeks ago.

She said she hopes he suffers and dies. I haven’t seen Lewis say anything about him calling her the N word but most of my news on teigan is coming from this thread. Is there a quote from her?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m really not sure why Leona Lewis wants a piece of this mess. Teigan has a pattern of behavior and the Costello situation reinforces that regardless of him sucking or not.

Chrissy Teigan bullied a bunch of people online. Facts. But this costello thing has seemed different to me because it is clear in these text messages that she is not trying to bully him, she believes he is racist and is furious about that. He is not a random Lindsay Lohan like pop culture person she decided to eviscerate, he's a random project runway contestant, and she's not really saying anything mean to him other than that she doesn't want to talk to him because she thinks he's racist.

So IMO, and this isn't a defense of Chrissy Teigan at large, just this specific thing, I think he's taking advantage of the fact that people are piling on her to try to position himself as a victim of her to get rid of this racist label. And if I were someone to whom he had been racist, as Leona Lewis seems to be, this would enrage me and I would speak up too. I think the fact that she's speaking up means its certainly true because there is no reason to enter into this yucky public feud unless you have real strong feelings about it. And if your real strong feelings were about giving Teigan cover you would have spoken up a couple weeks ago.

She said she hopes he suffers and dies. I haven’t seen Lewis say anything about him calling her the N word but most of my news on teigan is coming from this thread. Is there a quote from her?

She says she thinks racist people should suffer and die. And she's a WOC married to a black man with two children of color. I think that is a FAR cry from the courtney stodden BS (which is heinous). She had a specific issue with this guy, this wasn't just piling on someone from the internet, this was a disagreement with this guy that was due to real things she thought about him. And based on twitter, I think the jury is WAY out on whether Michael Costello should be any type of sympathy victim here.

https://twitter.com/ANLWrites_OLD/status/1404609387541508103

https://ew.com/celebrity/leona-lewis-calls-out-michael-costello-for-his-response-to-chrissy-teigens-apology/

https://twitter.com/unforeseenbritt/status/1404736156550455299

https://twitter.com/Blackgirlmed2/status/1404853378887323652/photo/1

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Regardless of any other circumstances, Chrissy Tiegen now has a history of telling multiple people to kill themselves or die. As an adult. There is simply no excuse for that kind of repeated behavior and I cannot believe how many people are trying to desperately rationalize it here.

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Anonymous wrote:Regardless of any other circumstances, Chrissy Tiegen now has a history of telling multiple people to kill themselves or die. As an adult. There is simply no excuse for that kind of repeated behavior and I cannot believe how many people are trying to desperately rationalize it here.

If you are talking to me, the PP, I specifically said this had no bearing on any of the other instances. But a piece of internet trash trying to use a celebrity scandal to hide his racist past and, in fact, likely profit off of it, is just as bad as anything she has done.

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Anonymous wrote:Regardless of any other circumstances, Chrissy Tiegen now has a history of telling multiple people to kill themselves or die. As an adult. There is simply no excuse for that kind of repeated behavior and I cannot believe how many people are trying to desperately rationalize it here.

Yep. It’s not okay to encourage people to kill themselves no matter what color your skin is. My DD is a POC and I have still never found it necessary to try to persuade anyone to commit suicide.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m really not sure why Leona Lewis wants a piece of this mess. Teigan has a pattern of behavior and the Costello situation reinforces that regardless of him sucking or not.

Chrissy Teigan bullied a bunch of people online. Facts. But this costello thing has seemed different to me because it is clear in these text messages that she is not trying to bully him, she believes he is racist and is furious about that. He is not a random Lindsay Lohan like pop culture person she decided to eviscerate, he's a random project runway contestant, and she's not really saying anything mean to him other than that she doesn't want to talk to him because she thinks he's racist.

So IMO, and this isn't a defense of Chrissy Teigan at large, just this specific thing, I think he's taking advantage of the fact that people are piling on her to try to position himself as a victim of her to get rid of this racist label. And if I were someone to whom he had been racist, as Leona Lewis seems to be, this would enrage me and I would speak up too. I think the fact that she's speaking up means its certainly true because there is no reason to enter into this yucky public feud unless you have real strong feelings about it. And if your real strong feelings were about giving Teigan cover you would have spoken up a couple weeks ago.

She said she hopes he suffers and dies. I haven’t seen Lewis say anything about him calling her the N word but most of my news on teigan is coming from this thread. Is there a quote from her?

She says she thinks racist people should suffer and die. And she's a WOC married to a black man with two children of color. I think that is a FAR cry from the courtney stodden BS (which is heinous). She had a specific issue with this guy, this wasn't just piling on someone from the internet, this was a disagreement with this guy that was due to real things she thought about him. And based on twitter, I think the jury is WAY out on whether Michael Costello should be any type of sympathy victim here.

https://twitter.com/ANLWrites_OLD/status/1404609387541508103

https://ew.com/celebrity/leona-lewis-calls-out-michael-costello-for-his-response-to-chrissy-teigens-apology/

https://twitter.com/unforeseenbritt/status/1404736156550455299

https://twitter.com/Blackgirlmed2/status/1404853378887323652/photo/1

Yeah, I'm also a WOC, and I think this type of behavior (saying anyone should "suffer and die") is beyond the pale. Also, it looks like the kind of behavior she engaged in extended beyond just sending messages that she wasn't interested in talking to him, she also went out of her way to close professional doors and badmouth him in public. Obviously racism is bad and racists shouldn't get a pass, but I don't think it justifies going on a vigilante campaign to ruin someone's career based on a few tweets, especially when that person reaches out and tries to explain/tell you that at least some of the evidence of that is fake or inaccurate. At that point, the right thing to do is either ignore that person and move on (not try to ruin their career) or to at least hear them out before you start actively badmouthing them and doing things that will affect their career. So if this is true (I realize we are only hearing his side of the story), it reflects poorly on her despite the fact that she thought he was a racist, and IMO certainly qualifies as bullying.

I don't know who Costello is, and maybe he has said racist things/isn't the most sympathetic person, but I don't think using a power differential to crush someone's career is okay without giving them at least some due process first.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Regardless of any other circumstances, Chrissy Tiegen now has a history of telling multiple people to kill themselves or die. As an adult. There is simply no excuse for that kind of repeated behavior and I cannot believe how many people are trying to desperately rationalize it here.

If you are talking to me, the PP, I specifically said this had no bearing on any of the other instances. But a piece of internet trash trying to use a celebrity scandal to hide his racist past and, in fact, likely profit off of it, is just as bad as anything she has done.

When there is proof he has done it multiple times over the years to many people, then we can agree.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m really not sure why Leona Lewis wants a piece of this mess. Teigan has a pattern of behavior and the Costello situation reinforces that regardless of him sucking or not.

Chrissy Teigan bullied a bunch of people online. Facts. But this costello thing has seemed different to me because it is clear in these text messages that she is not trying to bully him, she believes he is racist and is furious about that. He is not a random Lindsay Lohan like pop culture person she decided to eviscerate, he's a random project runway contestant, and she's not really saying anything mean to him other than that she doesn't want to talk to him because she thinks he's racist.

So IMO, and this isn't a defense of Chrissy Teigan at large, just this specific thing, I think he's taking advantage of the fact that people are piling on her to try to position himself as a victim of her to get rid of this racist label. And if I were someone to whom he had been racist, as Leona Lewis seems to be, this would enrage me and I would speak up too. I think the fact that she's speaking up means its certainly true because there is no reason to enter into this yucky public feud unless you have real strong feelings about it. And if your real strong feelings were about giving Teigan cover you would have spoken up a couple weeks ago.

She said she hopes he suffers and dies. I haven’t seen Lewis say anything about him calling her the N word but most of my news on teigan is coming from this thread. Is there a quote from her?

She says she thinks racist people should suffer and die. And she's a WOC married to a black man with two children of color. I think that is a FAR cry from the courtney stodden BS (which is heinous). She had a specific issue with this guy, this wasn't just piling on someone from the internet, this was a disagreement with this guy that was due to real things she thought about him. And based on twitter, I think the jury is WAY out on whether Michael Costello should be any type of sympathy victim here.

https://twitter.com/ANLWrites_OLD/status/1404609387541508103

https://ew.com/celebrity/leona-lewis-calls-out-michael-costello-for-his-response-to-chrissy-teigens-apology/

https://twitter.com/unforeseenbritt/status/1404736156550455299

https://twitter.com/Blackgirlmed2/status/1404853378887323652/photo/1

Yeah, I'm also a WOC, and I think this type of behavior (saying anyone should "suffer and die") is beyond the pale. Also, it looks like the kind of behavior she engaged in extended beyond just sending messages that she wasn't interested in talking to him, she also went out of her way to close professional doors and badmouth him in public. Obviously racism is bad and racists shouldn't get a pass, but I don't think it justifies going on a vigilante campaign to ruin someone's career based on a few tweets, especially when that person reaches out and tries to explain/tell you that at least some of the evidence of that is fake or inaccurate. At that point, the right thing to do is either ignore that person and move on (not try to ruin their career) or to at least hear them out before you start actively badmouthing them and doing things that will affect their career. So if this is true (I realize we are only hearing his side of the story), it reflects poorly on her despite the fact that she thought he was a racist, and IMO certainly qualifies as bullying.

I don't know who Costello is, and maybe he has said racist things/isn't the most sympathetic person, but I don't think using a power differential to crush someone's career is okay without giving them at least some due process first.

The woman he stole from and called the N word is online today saying he not only wrote it online but that he called it to her to her face and then got into a physical altercation with her.

So I dunno about Chrissy Teigan, but I'm going to believe the black woman who says she was stolen from and then verbally assaulted.