Why is Northeastern (NEU) so popular with both parents and students these days?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For those looking for medical school, this is from Tufts University's Medical School:

Class of 2027
https://medicine.tufts.edu/academics/medicine/class-profile


Undergrad Institutions Represented
(schools contributing 4 or more students)
Tufts University: 31
Northeastern University: 10
Boston College: 7
Johns Hopkins University: 7
Bates College: 6
Cornell University: 6
University of California-Los Angeles: 6
Washington University in St. Louis: 6
New York University: 5
Middlebury College: 4

I recently listened to a lecturer who is like a college consultant for med school admissions. He said take every school’s reporting on med school admissions with a grain of salt. There is no oversight to confirm it is accurate and in almost every case the numbers are way overblown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those looking for medical school, this is from Tufts University's Medical School:

Class of 2027
https://medicine.tufts.edu/academics/medicine/class-profile


Undergrad Institutions Represented
(schools contributing 4 or more students)
Tufts University: 31
Northeastern University: 10
Boston College: 7
Johns Hopkins University: 7
Bates College: 6
Cornell University: 6
University of California-Los Angeles: 6
Washington University in St. Louis: 6
New York University: 5
Middlebury College: 4

I recently listened to a lecturer who is like a college consultant for med school admissions. He said take every school’s reporting on med school admissions with a grain of salt. There is no oversight to confirm it is accurate and in almost every case the numbers are way overblown.

Most likely he was referring to the undergraduate guidance department. Those are notorious for claiming, eg, "that 85% of our undergraduate who apply to med school are accepted to at least one". The reality is that guidance actively discourages/weeds out those who apply.

In this case, these numbers are direct from Tufts Medical School who are reporting on who enrolled in the class of 2027. Much different scenario. What the OP is showing is that NEU at least for Tufts Medical School looks to be somewhat of a feeder for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For those looking for medical school, this is from Tufts University's Medical School:

Class of 2027
https://medicine.tufts.edu/academics/medicine/class-profile


Undergrad Institutions Represented
(schools contributing 4 or more students)
Tufts University: 31
Northeastern University: 10
Boston College: 7
Johns Hopkins University: 7
Bates College: 6
Cornell University: 6
University of California-Los Angeles: 6
Washington University in St. Louis: 6
New York University: 5
Middlebury College: 4

Bates College is overrepresented. Quite an accomplishment for supposedly a "declining" liberal arts institution

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a combination of many good things that makes the school popular.

- Great urban location, there are ton of kids who prefer good urban location. Boson is also one of the most popular
- Relatively cohesive nice modern looking campus for an urban location
Our family of 5 visited the four peer schools - Tufts, Boston College, Boston Univ, and Northeastern Univ, and Northeastern was top choice for all of us for the location + campus combination.
- Satisfaction level based on retention rate. It's like top 5 among national universities.
- Good balance. The school pay much attention to CS, Engineering, Science and other STEM areas, but also very strong in Business, Art & Design, pre-med, and other areas. It's well rounded unlike other Engineering heavy schools
- Outcomes. Coop program contributes to this, but ultimately outcome is great on par or better than many T25ish schools
- Quality of student body - smart, intelligent, independent, motivated, top notch, most of them have stats for T25ish schools.
- Sports and Greek life is relatively weak, but it has very good D1 hockey team and have little bit of everything for everyone.
- etc.

It's not one or two factors that can make a school popular.

This sockpuppet is getting tiring.

The bolded is one of many reasons this school sucks according to my kid. He wanted football weekends and got to an elite school with great football. We actually appreciated that because we would travel to see him on those weekends. Northeastern is lackluster and sad by comparison. PS, DC did not apply so don't say we were rejected lol.

Understandable, of course Northeastern is not for everyone.
If football and greek life are high priorities, it's not a school for you.

However three are also ton of people who think those are not high priorities at all, thus schools like NYU and Northeastern are insanely popular. Besides, you get a lot of sporting options in places like NYC and Boston, thus people care less about college football.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a combination of many good things that makes the school popular.

- Great urban location, there are ton of kids who prefer good urban location. Boson is also one of the most popular
- Relatively cohesive nice modern looking campus for an urban location
Our family of 5 visited the four peer schools - Tufts, Boston College, Boston Univ, and Northeastern Univ, and Northeastern was top choice for all of us for the location + campus combination.
- Satisfaction level based on retention rate. It's like top 5 among national universities.
- Good balance. The school pay much attention to CS, Engineering, Science and other STEM areas, but also very strong in Business, Art & Design, pre-med, and other areas. It's well rounded unlike other Engineering heavy schools
- Outcomes. Coop program contributes to this, but ultimately outcome is great on par or better than many T25ish schools
- Quality of student body - smart, intelligent, independent, motivated, top notch, most of them have stats for T25ish schools.
- Sports and Greek life is relatively weak, but it has very good D1 hockey team and have little bit of everything for everyone.
- etc.

It's not one or two factors that can make a school popular.

This sockpuppet is getting tiring.

The bolded is one of many reasons this school sucks according to my kid. He wanted football weekends and got to an elite school with great football. We actually appreciated that because we would travel to see him on those weekends. Northeastern is lackluster and sad by comparison. PS, DC did not apply so don't say we were rejected lol.

Understandable, of course Northeastern is not for everyone.
If football and greek life are high priorities, it's not a school for you.

However three are also ton of people who think those are not high priorities at all, thus schools like NYU and Northeastern are insanely popular. Besides, you get a lot of sporting options in places like NYC and Boston, thus people care less about college football.

Correct, where prestige and job prospects take priority over school spirit and sports, northeastern shines. It's why students choose NEU over Cornell, MIT, etc. There are zero cases of people choosing a Michigan for example over Cornell and MIT.

[Anonymous]

O RLY?
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Cornell+University&with=University+of+Michigan+-+Ann+Arbor

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a combination of many good things that makes the school popular.

- Great urban location, there are ton of kids who prefer good urban location. Boson is also one of the most popular
- Relatively cohesive nice modern looking campus for an urban location
Our family of 5 visited the four peer schools - Tufts, Boston College, Boston Univ, and Northeastern Univ, and Northeastern was top choice for all of us for the location + campus combination.
- Satisfaction level based on retention rate. It's like top 5 among national universities.
- Good balance. The school pay much attention to CS, Engineering, Science and other STEM areas, but also very strong in Business, Art & Design, pre-med, and other areas. It's well rounded unlike other Engineering heavy schools
- Outcomes. Coop program contributes to this, but ultimately outcome is great on par or better than many T25ish schools
- Quality of student body - smart, intelligent, independent, motivated, top notch, most of them have stats for T25ish schools.
- Sports and Greek life is relatively weak, but it has very good D1 hockey team and have little bit of everything for everyone.
- etc.

It's not one or two factors that can make a school popular.

This sockpuppet is getting tiring.

The bolded is one of many reasons this school sucks according to my kid. He wanted football weekends and got to an elite school with great football. We actually appreciated that because we would travel to see him on those weekends. Northeastern is lackluster and sad by comparison. PS, DC did not apply so don't say we were rejected lol.

Understandable, of course Northeastern is not for everyone.
If football and greek life are high priorities, it's not a school for you.

However three are also ton of people who think those are not high priorities at all, thus schools like NYU and Northeastern are insanely popular. Besides, you get a lot of sporting options in places like NYC and Boston, thus people care less about college football.

Correct, where prestige and job prospects take priority over school spirit and sports, northeastern shines. It's why students choose NEU over Cornell, MIT, etc. There are zero cases of people choosing a Michigan for example over Cornell and MIT.

No one is choosing Northeastern over Cornell or MIT. Please take your meds and get off DCUM.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a combination of many good things that makes the school popular.

- Great urban location, there are ton of kids who prefer good urban location. Boson is also one of the most popular
- Relatively cohesive nice modern looking campus for an urban location
Our family of 5 visited the four peer schools - Tufts, Boston College, Boston Univ, and Northeastern Univ, and Northeastern was top choice for all of us for the location + campus combination.
- Satisfaction level based on retention rate. It's like top 5 among national universities.
- Good balance. The school pay much attention to CS, Engineering, Science and other STEM areas, but also very strong in Business, Art & Design, pre-med, and other areas. It's well rounded unlike other Engineering heavy schools
- Outcomes. Coop program contributes to this, but ultimately outcome is great on par or better than many T25ish schools
- Quality of student body - smart, intelligent, independent, motivated, top notch, most of them have stats for T25ish schools.
- Sports and Greek life is relatively weak, but it has very good D1 hockey team and have little bit of everything for everyone.
- etc.

It's not one or two factors that can make a school popular.

This sockpuppet is getting tiring.

The bolded is one of many reasons this school sucks according to my kid. He wanted football weekends and got to an elite school with great football. We actually appreciated that because we would travel to see him on those weekends. Northeastern is lackluster and sad by comparison. PS, DC did not apply so don't say we were rejected lol.

Understandable, of course Northeastern is not for everyone.
If football and greek life are high priorities, it's not a school for you.

However three are also ton of people who think those are not high priorities at all, thus schools like NYU and Northeastern are insanely popular. Besides, you get a lot of sporting options in places like NYC and Boston, thus people care less about college football.

Correct, where prestige and job prospects take priority over school spirit and sports, northeastern shines. It's why students choose NEU over Cornell, MIT, etc. There are zero cases of people choosing a Michigan for example over Cornell and MIT.

No one is choosing Northeastern over Cornell or MIT. Please take your meds and get off DCUM.

DP here. Why the name calling? It disqualifies your argument. I actually know students who have chosen between MIT and NEU for CS, because the CS at NEU is very strong. Not all went to MIT, even though they had the choice. Not sure about Cornell (MIT and NEU were originally been known for the obvious - CS and Engineering). Not saying that MIT and NEU are equal, but students have chosen between the two before.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a combination of many good things that makes the school popular.

- Great urban location, there are ton of kids who prefer good urban location. Boson is also one of the most popular
- Relatively cohesive nice modern looking campus for an urban location
Our family of 5 visited the four peer schools - Tufts, Boston College, Boston Univ, and Northeastern Univ, and Northeastern was top choice for all of us for the location + campus combination.
- Satisfaction level based on retention rate. It's like top 5 among national universities.
- Good balance. The school pay much attention to CS, Engineering, Science and other STEM areas, but also very strong in Business, Art & Design, pre-med, and other areas. It's well rounded unlike other Engineering heavy schools
- Outcomes. Coop program contributes to this, but ultimately outcome is great on par or better than many T25ish schools
- Quality of student body - smart, intelligent, independent, motivated, top notch, most of them have stats for T25ish schools.
- Sports and Greek life is relatively weak, but it has very good D1 hockey team and have little bit of everything for everyone.
- etc.

It's not one or two factors that can make a school popular.

This sockpuppet is getting tiring.

The bolded is one of many reasons this school sucks according to my kid. He wanted football weekends and got to an elite school with great football. We actually appreciated that because we would travel to see him on those weekends. Northeastern is lackluster and sad by comparison. PS, DC did not apply so don't say we were rejected lol.

Understandable, of course Northeastern is not for everyone.
If football and greek life are high priorities, it's not a school for you.

However three are also ton of people who think those are not high priorities at all, thus schools like NYU and Northeastern are insanely popular. Besides, you get a lot of sporting options in places like NYC and Boston, thus people care less about college football.

Correct, where prestige and job prospects take priority over school spirit and sports, northeastern shines. It's why students choose NEU over Cornell, MIT, etc. There are zero cases of people choosing a Michigan for example over Cornell and MIT.

No one is choosing Northeastern over Cornell or MIT. Please take your meds and get off DCUM.

DP here. Why the name calling? It disqualifies your argument. I actually know students who have chosen between MIT and NEU for CS, because the CS at NEU is very strong. Not all went to MIT, even though they had the choice. Not sure about Cornell (MIT and NEU were originally been known for the obvious - CS and Engineering). Not saying that MIT and NEU are equal, but students have chosen between the two before.

Not PP, but take a look at this: https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Massachusetts+Institute+of+Technology&with=Northeastern+University. 85% of students admitted to both choose MIT. And it's clear why.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a combination of many good things that makes the school popular.

- Great urban location, there are ton of kids who prefer good urban location. Boson is also one of the most popular
- Relatively cohesive nice modern looking campus for an urban location
Our family of 5 visited the four peer schools - Tufts, Boston College, Boston Univ, and Northeastern Univ, and Northeastern was top choice for all of us for the location + campus combination.
- Satisfaction level based on retention rate. It's like top 5 among national universities.
- Good balance. The school pay much attention to CS, Engineering, Science and other STEM areas, but also very strong in Business, Art & Design, pre-med, and other areas. It's well rounded unlike other Engineering heavy schools
- Outcomes. Coop program contributes to this, but ultimately outcome is great on par or better than many T25ish schools
- Quality of student body - smart, intelligent, independent, motivated, top notch, most of them have stats for T25ish schools.
- Sports and Greek life is relatively weak, but it has very good D1 hockey team and have little bit of everything for everyone.
- etc.

It's not one or two factors that can make a school popular.

This sockpuppet is getting tiring.

The bolded is one of many reasons this school sucks according to my kid. He wanted football weekends and got to an elite school with great football. We actually appreciated that because we would travel to see him on those weekends. Northeastern is lackluster and sad by comparison. PS, DC did not apply so don't say we were rejected lol.

Understandable, of course Northeastern is not for everyone.
If football and greek life are high priorities, it's not a school for you.

However three are also ton of people who think those are not high priorities at all, thus schools like NYU and Northeastern are insanely popular. Besides, you get a lot of sporting options in places like NYC and Boston, thus people care less about college football.

Correct, where prestige and job prospects take priority over school spirit and sports, northeastern shines. It's why students choose NEU over Cornell, MIT, etc. There are zero cases of people choosing a Michigan for example over Cornell and MIT.

No one is choosing Northeastern over Cornell or MIT. Please take your meds and get off DCUM.

DP here. Why the name calling? It disqualifies your argument. I actually know students who have chosen between MIT and NEU for CS, because the CS at NEU is very strong. Not all went to MIT, even though they had the choice. Not sure about Cornell (MIT and NEU were originally been known for the obvious - CS and Engineering). Not saying that MIT and NEU are equal, but students have chosen between the two before.

Not PP, but take a look at this: https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Massachusetts+Institute+of+Technology&with=Northeastern+University. 85% of students admitted to both choose MIT. And it's clear why.

If it was my kid, MIT over any other college not named Cal Tech, Stanford or Princeton.

Northeastern over Cornell for CS? If NEU was cheaper, definitely. I think many here don't understand the strength of a school when it comes to a major.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:It's a combination of many good things that makes the school popular.

- Great urban location, there are ton of kids who prefer good urban location. Boson is also one of the most popular
- Relatively cohesive nice modern looking campus for an urban location
Our family of 5 visited the four peer schools - Tufts, Boston College, Boston Univ, and Northeastern Univ, and Northeastern was top choice for all of us for the location + campus combination.
- Satisfaction level based on retention rate. It's like top 5 among national universities.
- Good balance. The school pay much attention to CS, Engineering, Science and other STEM areas, but also very strong in Business, Art & Design, pre-med, and other areas. It's well rounded unlike other Engineering heavy schools
- Outcomes. Coop program contributes to this, but ultimately outcome is great on par or better than many T25ish schools
- Quality of student body - smart, intelligent, independent, motivated, top notch, most of them have stats for T25ish schools.
- Sports and Greek life is relatively weak, but it has very good D1 hockey team and have little bit of everything for everyone.
- etc.

It's not one or two factors that can make a school popular.

This sockpuppet is getting tiring.

The bolded is one of many reasons this school sucks according to my kid. He wanted football weekends and got to an elite school with great football. We actually appreciated that because we would travel to see him on those weekends. Northeastern is lackluster and sad by comparison. PS, DC did not apply so don't say we were rejected lol.

Understandable, of course Northeastern is not for everyone.
If football and greek life are high priorities, it's not a school for you.

However three are also ton of people who think those are not high priorities at all, thus schools like NYU and Northeastern are insanely popular. Besides, you get a lot of sporting options in places like NYC and Boston, thus people care less about college football.

Correct, where prestige and job prospects take priority over school spirit and sports, northeastern shines. It's why students choose NEU over Cornell, MIT, etc. There are zero cases of people choosing a Michigan for example over Cornell and MIT.

No one is choosing Northeastern over Cornell or MIT. Please take your meds and get off DCUM.

Yes, the marketer is at it again. They've already said this. People already said nope. And here we are again!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a combination of many good things that makes the school popular.

- Great urban location, there are ton of kids who prefer good urban location. Boson is also one of the most popular
- Relatively cohesive nice modern looking campus for an urban location
Our family of 5 visited the four peer schools - Tufts, Boston College, Boston Univ, and Northeastern Univ, and Northeastern was top choice for all of us for the location + campus combination.
- Satisfaction level based on retention rate. It's like top 5 among national universities.
- Good balance. The school pay much attention to CS, Engineering, Science and other STEM areas, but also very strong in Business, Art & Design, pre-med, and other areas. It's well rounded unlike other Engineering heavy schools
- Outcomes. Coop program contributes to this, but ultimately outcome is great on par or better than many T25ish schools
- Quality of student body - smart, intelligent, independent, motivated, top notch, most of them have stats for T25ish schools.
- Sports and Greek life is relatively weak, but it has very good D1 hockey team and have little bit of everything for everyone.
- etc.

It's not one or two factors that can make a school popular.

This sockpuppet is getting tiring.

The bolded is one of many reasons this school sucks according to my kid. He wanted football weekends and got to an elite school with great football. We actually appreciated that because we would travel to see him on those weekends. Northeastern is lackluster and sad by comparison. PS, DC did not apply so don't say we were rejected lol.

Understandable, of course Northeastern is not for everyone.
If football and greek life are high priorities, it's not a school for you.

However three are also ton of people who think those are not high priorities at all, thus schools like NYU and Northeastern are insanely popular. Besides, you get a lot of sporting options in places like NYC and Boston, thus people care less about college football.

Correct, where prestige and job prospects take priority over school spirit and sports, northeastern shines. It's why students choose NEU over Cornell, MIT, etc. There are zero cases of people choosing a Michigan for example over Cornell and MIT.

No one is choosing Northeastern over Cornell or MIT. Please take your meds and get off DCUM.

DP here. Why the name calling? It disqualifies your argument. I actually know students who have chosen between MIT and NEU for CS, because the CS at NEU is very strong. Not all went to MIT, even though they had the choice. Not sure about Cornell (MIT and NEU were originally been known for the obvious - CS and Engineering). Not saying that MIT and NEU are equal, but students have chosen between the two before.

Not PP, but take a look at this: https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Massachusetts+Institute+of+Technology&with=Northeastern+University. 85% of students admitted to both choose MIT. And it's clear why.

Of course they do - we are an MIT family and do not have to read what you pffer about the situation. But there are strong Engineering and CS students choosing NEU for good reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:It's a combination of many good things that makes the school popular.

- Great urban location, there are ton of kids who prefer good urban location. Boson is also one of the most popular
- Relatively cohesive nice modern looking campus for an urban location
Our family of 5 visited the four peer schools - Tufts, Boston College, Boston Univ, and Northeastern Univ, and Northeastern was top choice for all of us for the location + campus combination.
- Satisfaction level based on retention rate. It's like top 5 among national universities.
- Good balance. The school pay much attention to CS, Engineering, Science and other STEM areas, but also very strong in Business, Art & Design, pre-med, and other areas. It's well rounded unlike other Engineering heavy schools
- Outcomes. Coop program contributes to this, but ultimately outcome is great on par or better than many T25ish schools
- Quality of student body - smart, intelligent, independent, motivated, top notch, most of them have stats for T25ish schools.
- Sports and Greek life is relatively weak, but it has very good D1 hockey team and have little bit of everything for everyone.
- etc.

It's not one or two factors that can make a school popular.

This sockpuppet is getting tiring.

The bolded is one of many reasons this school sucks according to my kid. He wanted football weekends and got to an elite school with great football. We actually appreciated that because we would travel to see him on those weekends. Northeastern is lackluster and sad by comparison. PS, DC did not apply so don't say we were rejected lol.

Understandable, of course Northeastern is not for everyone.
If football and greek life are high priorities, it's not a school for you.

However three are also ton of people who think those are not high priorities at all, thus schools like NYU and Northeastern are insanely popular. Besides, you get a lot of sporting options in places like NYC and Boston, thus people care less about college football.

Correct, where prestige and job prospects take priority over school spirit and sports, northeastern shines. It's why students choose NEU over Cornell, MIT, etc. There are zero cases of people choosing a Michigan for example over Cornell and MIT.

No one is choosing Northeastern over Cornell or MIT. Please take your meds and get off DCUM.

Yes, the marketer is at it again. They've already said this. People already said nope. And here we are again!

Are you the one who keeps reviving this thread? Are you at MIT? LOL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:It's a combination of many good things that makes the school popular.

- Great urban location, there are ton of kids who prefer good urban location. Boson is also one of the most popular
- Relatively cohesive nice modern looking campus for an urban location
Our family of 5 visited the four peer schools - Tufts, Boston College, Boston Univ, and Northeastern Univ, and Northeastern was top choice for all of us for the location + campus combination.
- Satisfaction level based on retention rate. It's like top 5 among national universities.
- Good balance. The school pay much attention to CS, Engineering, Science and other STEM areas, but also very strong in Business, Art & Design, pre-med, and other areas. It's well rounded unlike other Engineering heavy schools
- Outcomes. Coop program contributes to this, but ultimately outcome is great on par or better than many T25ish schools
- Quality of student body - smart, intelligent, independent, motivated, top notch, most of them have stats for T25ish schools.
- Sports and Greek life is relatively weak, but it has very good D1 hockey team and have little bit of everything for everyone.
- etc.

It's not one or two factors that can make a school popular.

This sockpuppet is getting tiring.

The bolded is one of many reasons this school sucks according to my kid. He wanted football weekends and got to an elite school with great football. We actually appreciated that because we would travel to see him on those weekends. Northeastern is lackluster and sad by comparison. PS, DC did not apply so don't say we were rejected lol.

Understandable, of course Northeastern is not for everyone.
If football and greek life are high priorities, it's not a school for you.

However three are also ton of people who think those are not high priorities at all, thus schools like NYU and Northeastern are insanely popular. Besides, you get a lot of sporting options in places like NYC and Boston, thus people care less about college football.

Correct, where prestige and job prospects take priority over school spirit and sports, northeastern shines. It's why students choose NEU over Cornell, MIT, etc. There are zero cases of people choosing a Michigan for example over Cornell and MIT.

No one is choosing Northeastern over Cornell or MIT. Please take your meds and get off DCUM.

Yes, the marketer is at it again. They've already said this. People already said nope. And here we are again!

Are you the one who keeps reviving this thread? Are you at MIT? LOL.

Does any college have as virulent a stalker as the anti-NEU person who chimes in on EVERY mention of Northeastern? So, so bizarre.

[Anonymous]

Does any college have obsessed boosters who feel the need to attack this virulent stalker after EVERY criticism of the school? So, so bizarre.