Biden strikes out with King Manchin

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Anonymous wrote:I love how no one has brought up that Manchin offered a $1.8B counteroffer with - 10-year funded Pre-K, Climate, and subsidized ACA.

The White House didn't agree to it, therefore the BBB was dead. End of.

Maybe the White House should have been working through the night lining up support in both chambers of Congress instead of sniping via surrogates on national TV?

Manchin’s private proposal to the White House — the details of which have not been previously reported — was made just days before a spectacular public collapse in negotiations between the White House and the senator, marked by bitter and personal recriminations that left the status of the talks unclear.

The White House was weighing how to respond to Manchin’s proposal last week when on Sunday he told Fox News that he would be unable to support the current version of Democrats’ Build Back Better agenda.

lol, relax when you lose in 2022 and 2024 then cry about [insert: racism/sexism/transphobia/fascism/etc.'ism].
As per the above "The White House was weighing how to respond to Manchin’s proposal last week when on Sunday he told Fox News that he would be unable to support the current version of Democrats’ Build Back Better agenda."

So he undercut it by going on tv and saying he would not support the bill.

I am going to believe Manchin over the WH or machine. Manchin gets what people think of his state including the horrible comments on this thread. Thank you Senator Manchin for putting your state over all the cocktail parties you will not be invited to by standing your ground.

Cocktail parties in WV. A bud light gulped from a glass instead of guzzling it from a tall boy wrapped in a brown paper bag.

Keep it up. Not only are you demonstrating the hatefulness that we have seen all too prevalent with many liberals.... you are also demonstrating your ignorance about W Va.

Relax. There are very few pictures on here so I doubt people from WV are “reading” the posts.

lol, relax when you lose in 2022 and 2024 then cry about [insert: racism/sexism/transphobia/fascism/etc.'ism].

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Anonymous wrote:From Manchin interview with WV public radio

They figured surely to God we can move one person. We surely can badger and beat one person up. Surely we can get enough protesters to make that person uncomfortable enough that they'll just say, 'OK I'll vote for anything,'" Manchin continued. "Well, guess what? I'm from West Virginia. I'm not from where they're from and they can just beat the living crap out of people and think they'll be submissive, period

Seems like he might come around in time...

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Machine and his children are all in the pockets of coal an big pharma. Y are so corrupt that their photo is next to "corrupt" in dictionary. By lining his pockets he is stealing from his constitutents in very poor state.

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If he was willing to negotiate after Thursday's snarky piece, he's definitely not after the Sunday blast.

A Bland White House Email Could've Killed Joe Biden's Agenda

Psaki said that Thursday’s statement released from her office was not meant to offend. “That was not intended to be directive or hurtful but to be a statement of fact,” she said.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/paulmcleod/machin-biden-white-house-email-build-back-better

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Anonymous wrote:From Manchin interview with WV public radio

They figured surely to God we can move one person. We surely can badger and beat one person up. Surely we can get enough protesters to make that person uncomfortable enough that they'll just say, 'OK I'll vote for anything,'" Manchin continued. "Well, guess what? I'm from West Virginia. I'm not from where they're from and they can just beat the living crap out of people and think they'll be submissive, period

Seems like he might come around in time...

Yeah...never.

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Anonymous wrote:BBB isn’t popular in West Virginia but the actual policies in it are. Just like the actual policies in the ACA poll better than “Obamacare”. Gah, around and around we go.

This will never get old.

Democrats: "Would you like a Ferrari?"
Voter: "Sure!"

Democrats: "It will cost $36,000." (Lying, it is actually $360,000 spread over 10 years)
Voter: "Um, my Corolla still works fine."

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We need to save our democracy- keep fighting for build back better.

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Anonymous wrote:States or areas with uneducated ignorant takers like WV should be punished through having less than equal shares of voting power compared to those areas that produce wealth, knowledge, and leadership, particularly when it comes to social spending. Democracy comes with responsibility and people similar to those in WV cannot handle the it.

LMAO Are you even American?

You literally just reiterated a system of governance that sparked off the Boston Tea Party and the Declaration of Independence.

Got to love to self-important UMC urban dwellers who think they are owed thousands in free money every month and will take away your power to participate in democracy if they don't get it.

Wait a second there skippy. What we have now is a system of government where the majority’s voice does not count. Seriously 290k voters in WVa can hijack and hold for ransom the rest of the country. It’s not a workable system. We do need to totally scrap the system in place. The Tyranny of the Minority must end.

Its the system the Founding Fathers set up when Boston had a population of 15,000 and West Virginia wasn't even formed for another hundred years. You think they didn't imagine this? What's more - you think the red state voters give a damned what you want? Get your head out of your ass.

Where in the Constitution is the filibuster?

You realize this isn't a filibuster issue, right?

Without Manchin the Democrats have 49 votes.

Actually, nevermind, this obviously isn't about facts for you, carry on...

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Anonymous wrote:States or areas with uneducated ignorant takers like WV should be punished through having less than equal shares of voting power compared to those areas that produce wealth, knowledge, and leadership, particularly when it comes to social spending. Democracy comes with responsibility and people similar to those in WV cannot handle the it.

LMAO Are you even American?

You literally just reiterated a system of governance that sparked off the Boston Tea Party and the Declaration of Independence.

Got to love to self-important UMC urban dwellers who think they are owed thousands in free money every month and will take away your power to participate in democracy if they don't get it.

Wait a second there skippy. What we have now is a system of government where the majority’s voice does not count. Seriously 290k voters in WVa can hijack and hold for ransom the rest of the country. It’s not a workable system. We do need to totally scrap the system in place. The Tyranny of the Minority must end.

Its the system the Founding Fathers set up when Boston had a population of 15,000 and West Virginia wasn't even formed for another hundred years. You think they didn't imagine this? What's more - you think the red state voters give a damned what you want? Get your head out of your ass.

Where in the Constitution is the filibuster?

You realize this isn't a filibuster issue, right?

Without Manchin the Democrats have 49 votes.

Actually, nevermind, this obviously isn't about facts for you, carry on...

Taker states should get fewer votes. Manchin’s inbred voters need to take a seat.

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Anonymous wrote:BBB isn’t popular in West Virginia but the actual policies in it are. Just like the actual policies in the ACA poll better than “Obamacare”. Gah, around and around we go.

This will never get old.

Democrats: "Would you like a Ferrari?"
Voter: "Sure!"

Democrats: "It will cost $36,000." (Lying, it is actually $360,000 spread over 10 years)
Voter: "Um, my Corolla still works fine."

THANK YOU. That's that's exactly what the Biden administration did and thought we were too stupid to notice.

Democrats: "Would you like a Ferrari?"
Voter: "Sure! How much does it cost?"

Democrats: "Well, you get new fenders, all leather seats, satelite radio, remote start..."
Voter: "Yeah, yeah but HOW MUCH?"

Democrats: "O% With 0% financing too."
Voter: "Zero? Really?"

Democrats: "Yes! Absolutely! Trust us"
Voter: "Okay, can I see the contract?"

Democrats: "Ummm, the printer is firing up. Give us a week but you can sign and roll off the lot same day."
Voter: "Sounds like a deal!"

....comes back a week later

Democrats: "Well, actually it'll will cost $36,000. Here's the contract with extra small fine print" (Lying, it is actually $360,000 spread over 10 years)
Voter: "Um, my Corolla still works fine."

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Anonymous wrote:We need to save our democracy- keep fighting for build back better.

Please stop equating the loss of democracy with you not getting paid $1,000s a month to have children. It's not that serious. In fact, its offensive to suggest it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BBB isn’t popular in West Virginia but the actual policies in it are. Just like the actual policies in the ACA poll better than “Obamacare”. Gah, around and around we go.

This will never get old.

Democrats: "Would you like a Ferrari?"
Voter: "Sure!"

Democrats: "It will cost $36,000." (Lying, it is actually $360,000 spread over 10 years)
Voter: "Um, my Corolla still works fine."

THANK YOU. That's that's exactly what the Biden administration did and thought we were too stupid to notice.

Democrats: "Would you like a Ferrari?"
Voter: "Sure! How much does it cost?"

Democrats: "Well, you get new fenders, all leather seats, satelite radio, remote start..."
Voter: "Yeah, yeah but HOW MUCH?"

Democrats: "O% With 0% financing too."
Voter: "Zero? Really?"

Democrats: "Yes! Absolutely! Trust us"
Voter: "Okay, can I see the contract?"

Democrats: "Ummm, the printer is firing up. Give us a week but you can sign and roll off the lot same day."
Voter: "Sounds like a deal!"

....comes back a week later

Democrats: "Well, actually it'll will cost $36,000. Here's the contract with extra small fine print" (Lying, it is actually $360,000 spread over 10 years)
Voter: "Um, my Corolla still works fine."

Except it’s all paid for by millionaires and billionaires but just a little bit more- and still far less than their fair share.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:States or areas with uneducated ignorant takers like WV should be punished through having less than equal shares of voting power compared to those areas that produce wealth, knowledge, and leadership, particularly when it comes to social spending. Democracy comes with responsibility and people similar to those in WV cannot handle the it.

LMAO Are you even American?

You literally just reiterated a system of governance that sparked off the Boston Tea Party and the Declaration of Independence.

Got to love to self-important UMC urban dwellers who think they are owed thousands in free money every month and will take away your power to participate in democracy if they don't get it.

Wait a second there skippy. What we have now is a system of government where the majority’s voice does not count. Seriously 290k voters in WVa can hijack and hold for ransom the rest of the country. It’s not a workable system. We do need to totally scrap the system in place. The Tyranny of the Minority must end.

Its the system the Founding Fathers set up when Boston had a population of 15,000 and West Virginia wasn't even formed for another hundred years. You think they didn't imagine this? What's more - you think the red state voters give a damned what you want? Get your head out of your ass.

Where in the Constitution is the filibuster?

You realize this isn't a filibuster issue, right?

Without Manchin the Democrats have 49 votes.

Actually, nevermind, this obviously isn't about facts for you, carry on...

If this was a 51-50 propostiion, then different GOP senators could be courted for different issues. There are elements that people liek Collins, Murkowski and Romney would each be supportive of without Manchin, but that isn't how it works anymore, so yes, the filibuster is deeply in play.

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Anonymous wrote:We need to save our democracy- keep fighting for build back better.

Please stop equating the loss of democracy with you not getting paid $1,000s a month to have children. It's not that serious. In fact, its offensive to suggest it.

As a trans woman, I am not fighting for my own children; I am fighting for poor children.

[Anonymous]

We need a constitution that is living, breathing and works for “we the people” not “we the rich old guys.”

We need to reform the court.