2 quick LDS questions
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Anonymous
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I have a few work colleagues who are LDS but I am not close enough to ask these questions.
1. Their holiday card says their 8 yr old was Baptized last year. Are these levels of dedicating a child to the faith? I am Christian and we Baptize earlier than 8. 2. I heard an older man discussing his 6 kids and said that two had joined him and his wife "beyond the vail". What does that mean? Thanks! |
Anonymous
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1) LDS baptizes at age 8 - the kids choose to be baptized.
2) Not 100% but I believe this means they have preceded him in death. They have crossed the veil before he and his wife will but will be together in the future. |
Anonymous
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1) They baptize older. Baptists also baptize older.
2) It means they have visited the Temple. |
Anonymous
| NP. I have been curious about a few things LDS also. My kids were playing with LDS child who asked DC if he was "the other". Does that mean non-Mormon or non- Christian or something else? |
Anonymous
This. |
Anonymous
It means non-Mormon. |
Anonymous
I hate when religions do that. "Worldly," "Gentiles," "the other" - tribalism is so easy, why make it an official or de facto part of your faith? |
Anonymous
Within their own community, non-LDS are called "Gentiles" |
Anonymous
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[quote=Anonymous]1) LDS baptizes at age 8 - the kids choose to be baptized.
There is also a special ceremony right after a child is born. I've attended a few. Blessings are said. The father (all men holding the baby, no women) gves the son his name and since the father is the holder of the Mechelzidek priesthood, he sometimes has visions or claims he has visions of what the son's future will be - and may or may not share those visions. The father prays over the son. Remember there is no ordained clergy in the Mormon Church. Then, at age 8, yes the child elects but are usually brain-washed (sorry) by sunday school into being thrilled to be baptized at age 8. Historically, this was done because so many children were lost during the treks out to Salt Lake City. If the child died before age 8, they were pure in soul, and God called him or her home because they had only been sent to early to obtain an earthly body (so cause for celebration). After age 8, however, they are deemed to have a level of consciousness so are responsible for their own sins, etc. But that's the historical reason why the baptism date was moved out. 2) Not 100% but I believe this means they have preceded him in death. They have crossed the veil before he and his wife will but will be together in the future. Perhaps, but not quite the full story. What the man was saying was that he and his wife were sealed in the temple. If their sealing took place during the marriage ceremony, then the husband to be is told his wife's secret sacred name and she is taught the secret handshake (I am not making this up). The husband literally pulls his wife through a slit in a veil that runs from top of ceiling to below. She gives the correct handshake and whispers her secret name that she tells no one but her husband. This is why it is critical for Mormon women to acquire a husband because the only way they can get pulled through to the Celestial (top tier) heaven is by having a husband. In the friend's case mentined above, the wife had died (she has to float around a bit until the husband dies so he can pull her through the veil) and the children have died. In most mormon families the children have been sealed for eternity to the mom and dad. When the father dies, he can pull the entire family through the veil into one of three heavens. That's why at the beginning of Big Love, there was a lot of white veils hanging from the ceiling and the three wives were trying to find their way to the husband in the mess of the veils. If you don't believe me, youtube, never before behind the scenes recordings of secret mormon rituals and temple marriages. You'll see the handshake, the veils, etc. |