FCPS Boundary Review Updates

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I live nowhere near Langley/Herndon and so it doesn’t affect me at all. But at this point, neither school is over-enrolled or under-enrolled. So why not just leave it alone for now? The kids at the far end of the county would have a big bus ride no matter where they went. Now if Langley was bursting at the seams and crying out for an expansion or modular classrooms, while Herndon sat at 75% capacity, I would say that people have a point and that the already available capacity needs to be used. But that’s not the situation at this point. It may be in the future if Langley has to pick up more kids that are closer to the school due to ongoing growth in Tyson’s … but we’re not there yet. BTW middle class areas got a boost for years on the east end of the county when West Potomac was expanded and had its borders expanded as well when MVHS sat well under capacity nearby. So this definitely isn’t a SES/protecting the rich school thing as plenty of people all over the economic spectrum live near West Potomac HS.

You, Sir or Madam, have far too much common sense to be spending your time here. Excellent points.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've asked for this before:

Please show us how you would redo the boundaries. You can start by putting Great Falls in Herndon. Do that. And, then please figure out who goes to Langley, McLean, and Marshall. Go around the beltway adjacent schools all the way to Alexandria. Then, come back on the outside boundary of Fairfax.

I think you will find that if you send Great Falls to Langley, that you will create many, many problems that are not easily solved.

signed,

Parent who does not live in Great Falls or McLean

Yes, sending Great Falls to Langley has created problems that aren’t easily solved, starting with the sense of entitlement.

It’s obvious that, if two schools both have capacity, we should send kids to the closer school, in this case Herndon.

But, as PP suggested, it will probably take another five years to clean this up.

1. The PP obviously meant "if you send GF to Herndon..." And she's absolutely right.
2. The people who best personify entitlement are those like you, who feel they can decide where other people's kids should go to school.
3. Which school are your kids zoned for?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live nowhere near Langley/Herndon and so it doesn’t affect me at all. But at this point, neither school is over-enrolled or under-enrolled. So why not just leave it alone for now? The kids at the far end of the county would have a big bus ride no matter where they went. Now if Langley was bursting at the seams and crying out for an expansion or modular classrooms, while Herndon sat at 75% capacity, I would say that people have a point and that the already available capacity needs to be used. But that’s not the situation at this point. It may be in the future if Langley has to pick up more kids that are closer to the school due to ongoing growth in Tyson’s … but we’re not there yet. BTW middle class areas got a boost for years on the east end of the county when West Potomac was expanded and had its borders expanded as well when MVHS sat well under capacity nearby. So this definitely isn’t a SES/protecting the rich school thing as plenty of people all over the economic spectrum live near West Potomac HS.

You, Sir or Madam, have far too much common sense to be spending your time here. Excellent points.

Too bad the points aren’t so compelling.

The kids at “the far end of the county” would have a shorter bus ride to Herndon than to Langley.

Also, Herndon is now just at 81% capacity (not that different than 75%).

Facts matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s really funny to see the whining from the equity warriors right now because thru saw through their pretext and saw the naked equity attempt.

Glad that the school board and superintendent came to their senses on it. They saved the county tax base and the Fairfax county Democratic Party by not listening to the extreme left flank.

What are you talking about? Plenty of neighborhoods (including mine) are slated to get moved. Nothing has been decided yet.

It's just a Forestville, Great Falls, or even worse one of the "good" Herndon address homeowners doing a victory lap because they weren't moved. They don't care about you or your family, only that they got what they wanted.

DP. I belong in none of your odd "categories," but having followed this discussion for months, I am loving the fact that people like you got a metaphorical pie in the face. You've been insisting that one particular community be moved - because you hate them - and that didn't happen. But what do you know? YOUR kids are going to be moved. Sorry, that is karma in a nutshell.

I hope you learned your lesson. Worry about your own kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s really funny to see the whining from the equity warriors right now because thru saw through their pretext and saw the naked equity attempt.

Glad that the school board and superintendent came to their senses on it. They saved the county tax base and the Fairfax county Democratic Party by not listening to the extreme left flank.

This is a very odd take on what's going on.

It's not clear the School Board is fully on board with what Thru proposed, and Thru's proposals seem like a fairly simplistic effort to collect a $500K consulting fee with minimal effort. I say that because many of their proposals, while purporting to "fix" one "problem," create as many new problems as they solve. It's not the result of thoughtful work.

If you think any proposal to redistrict Langley would be "extreme left," and any proposal that doesn't do so reflects the work of people who "came to their senses," perhaps that's how you'll spin it. But these proposals will result in a lot of opposition. Many of them are objectively bad, and they frequently target areas that would have preferred to have been left alone.

Welcome to a discussion thread where Langley families constantly get told they are racists and bigots after the redistricting proponents are the ones who repeatedly bring up race. Where a poster early today proclaimed that they should try to set a floor farms rate, and where a poster at one point last month proclaimed that everyone had to run to look at google maps to see a traffic accident on Georgetown pike which slowed the morning commute that day. That poster has been at it for well over a year in this message board. She’s absolutely obsessed with moving those kids.

You put words in my mouth when you pretend that I’m on board with any of the proposed changes, which I’m not. I was just talking about that one particular situation. I think all of these changes should be voted down as completely unnecessary.

+100
I do find it curious that after months (years) of these equity-warriors calling Langley families names simply because they wanted to stay at their current high school, no one is calling THEM names now that it seems they're going to be moved and are unhappy about it. I guess Langley parents are just supposed to shut up and not complain in the face of possible rezoning, but it's ok for every other community to be outraged at having to move. No one is calling them racists or bigots. Very interesting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live nowhere near Langley/Herndon and so it doesn’t affect me at all. But at this point, neither school is over-enrolled or under-enrolled. So why not just leave it alone for now? The kids at the far end of the county would have a big bus ride no matter where they went. Now if Langley was bursting at the seams and crying out for an expansion or modular classrooms, while Herndon sat at 75% capacity, I would say that people have a point and that the already available capacity needs to be used. But that’s not the situation at this point. It may be in the future if Langley has to pick up more kids that are closer to the school due to ongoing growth in Tyson’s … but we’re not there yet. BTW middle class areas got a boost for years on the east end of the county when West Potomac was expanded and had its borders expanded as well when MVHS sat well under capacity nearby. So this definitely isn’t a SES/protecting the rich school thing as plenty of people all over the economic spectrum live near West Potomac HS.

You, Sir or Madam, have far too much common sense to be spending your time here. Excellent points.

Too bad the points aren’t so compelling.

The kids at “the far end of the county” would have a shorter bus ride to Herndon than to Langley.

Also, Herndon is now just at 81% capacity (not that different than 75%).

Facts matter.

Bless your heart. You're just never going to be able to let this go. Are your kids going to be moved? I hope so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s really funny to see the whining from the equity warriors right now because thru saw through their pretext and saw the naked equity attempt.

Glad that the school board and superintendent came to their senses on it. They saved the county tax base and the Fairfax county Democratic Party by not listening to the extreme left flank.

What are you talking about? Plenty of neighborhoods (including mine) are slated to get moved. Nothing has been decided yet.

It's just a Forestville, Great Falls, or even worse one of the "good" Herndon address homeowners doing a victory lap because they weren't moved. They don't care about you or your family, only that they got what they wanted.

DP. I belong in none of your odd "categories," but having followed this discussion for months, I am loving the fact that people like you got a metaphorical pie in the face. You've been insisting that one particular community be moved - because you hate them - and that didn't happen. But what do you know? YOUR kids are going to be moved. Sorry, that is karma in a nutshell.

I hope you learned your lesson. Worry about your own kids.

Nope. I bought after the 2008 boundary fiasco. Made sure to buy solidly inside our target school zone. Zero chance we get moved. I'm still allowed to point out the hypocrisy of posters here who hated Thru when they worried they would be move, but now sing their praises for making the "right" decisions (that didn't involve their boundary). It's so obvious.
So no pie in the face here. With the new wording of policy 8130 I don't see how anyone would consider paying the Langley premium for any Forestville home though. It's a foregone conclusion that as Tysons grows they will end up at Herndon eventually. All that stress every 5 years won't be fun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s really funny to see the whining from the equity warriors right now because thru saw through their pretext and saw the naked equity attempt.

Glad that the school board and superintendent came to their senses on it. They saved the county tax base and the Fairfax county Democratic Party by not listening to the extreme left flank.

What are you talking about? Plenty of neighborhoods (including mine) are slated to get moved. Nothing has been decided yet.

It's just a Forestville, Great Falls, or even worse one of the "good" Herndon address homeowners doing a victory lap because they weren't moved. They don't care about you or your family, only that they got what they wanted.

DP. I belong in none of your odd "categories," but having followed this discussion for months, I am loving the fact that people like you got a metaphorical pie in the face. You've been insisting that one particular community be moved - because you hate them - and that didn't happen. But what do you know? YOUR kids are going to be moved. Sorry, that is karma in a nutshell.

I hope you learned your lesson. Worry about your own kids.

Nope. I bought after the 2008 boundary fiasco. Made sure to buy solidly inside our target school zone. Zero chance we get moved. I'm still allowed to point out the hypocrisy of posters here who hated Thru when they worried they would be move, but now sing their praises for making the "right" decisions (that didn't involve their boundary). It's so obvious.
So no pie in the face here. With the new wording of policy 8130 I don't see how anyone would consider paying the Langley premium for any Forestville home though. It's a foregone conclusion that as Tysons grows they will end up at Herndon eventually. All that stress every 5 years won't be fun.

Serious question- at what point should we be concerned with your obsession? You spent hours yesterday on this discussion forum obsessing over a school not being moved as part of the boundary review, including posting in the wee hours of the morning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live nowhere near Langley/Herndon and so it doesn’t affect me at all. But at this point, neither school is over-enrolled or under-enrolled. So why not just leave it alone for now? The kids at the far end of the county would have a big bus ride no matter where they went. Now if Langley was bursting at the seams and crying out for an expansion or modular classrooms, while Herndon sat at 75% capacity, I would say that people have a point and that the already available capacity needs to be used. But that’s not the situation at this point. It may be in the future if Langley has to pick up more kids that are closer to the school due to ongoing growth in Tyson’s … but we’re not there yet. BTW middle class areas got a boost for years on the east end of the county when West Potomac was expanded and had its borders expanded as well when MVHS sat well under capacity nearby. So this definitely isn’t a SES/protecting the rich school thing as plenty of people all over the economic spectrum live near West Potomac HS.

You, Sir or Madam, have far too much common sense to be spending your time here. Excellent points.

Too bad the points aren’t so compelling.

The kids at “the far end of the county” would have a shorter bus ride to Herndon than to Langley.

Also, Herndon is now just at 81% capacity (not that different than 75%).

Facts matter.

But they are compelling. The boundary review is moving kids around to just do it in some cases. It should be based on capacity, but it is not. Some of the changes they wish to do will make high school as close to capacity as possible (the 106% number).

[Anonymous]

Can someone on here talk about Annandale High school. The school is close to capacity and projected to hit higher (with modulars) yet they are moving Lewis students and putting it above capacity.

Why would they do that? This seems to go against the whole point of this review and sets the school for failure when it is finally turning itself around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live nowhere near Langley/Herndon and so it doesn’t affect me at all. But at this point, neither school is over-enrolled or under-enrolled. So why not just leave it alone for now? The kids at the far end of the county would have a big bus ride no matter where they went. Now if Langley was bursting at the seams and crying out for an expansion or modular classrooms, while Herndon sat at 75% capacity, I would say that people have a point and that the already available capacity needs to be used. But that’s not the situation at this point. It may be in the future if Langley has to pick up more kids that are closer to the school due to ongoing growth in Tyson’s … but we’re not there yet. BTW middle class areas got a boost for years on the east end of the county when West Potomac was expanded and had its borders expanded as well when MVHS sat well under capacity nearby. So this definitely isn’t a SES/protecting the rich school thing as plenty of people all over the economic spectrum live near West Potomac HS.

You, Sir or Madam, have far too much common sense to be spending your time here. Excellent points.

Too bad the points aren’t so compelling.

The kids at “the far end of the county” would have a shorter bus ride to Herndon than to Langley.

Also, Herndon is now just at 81% capacity (not that different than 75%).

Facts matter.

Good luck getting over your Langley Derangement Syndrome.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live nowhere near Langley/Herndon and so it doesn’t affect me at all. But at this point, neither school is over-enrolled or under-enrolled. So why not just leave it alone for now? The kids at the far end of the county would have a big bus ride no matter where they went. Now if Langley was bursting at the seams and crying out for an expansion or modular classrooms, while Herndon sat at 75% capacity, I would say that people have a point and that the already available capacity needs to be used. But that’s not the situation at this point. It may be in the future if Langley has to pick up more kids that are closer to the school due to ongoing growth in Tyson’s … but we’re not there yet. BTW middle class areas got a boost for years on the east end of the county when West Potomac was expanded and had its borders expanded as well when MVHS sat well under capacity nearby. So this definitely isn’t a SES/protecting the rich school thing as plenty of people all over the economic spectrum live near West Potomac HS.

You, Sir or Madam, have far too much common sense to be spending your time here. Excellent points.

Too bad the points aren’t so compelling.

The kids at “the far end of the county” would have a shorter bus ride to Herndon than to Langley.

Also, Herndon is now just at 81% capacity (not that different than 75%).

Facts matter.

Good luck getting over your Langley Derangement Syndrome.

Yes. And, Herndon actually has a few more students than Langley.

Again, until someone comes up with a proposal of how to fill Langley and Herndon without creating a troubling domino effect, this is just talk.

I'm not familiar with Langley/McLean/Marshall neighborhoods, but it appears to me that this would not be an easy task without making other students drive very long distances.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone on here talk about Annandale High school. The school is close to capacity and projected to hit higher (with modulars) yet they are moving Lewis students and putting it above capacity.

Why would they do that? This seems to go against the whole point of this review and sets the school for failure when it is finally turning itself around.

1. They are only looking at September enrollments for capacity, not projections.
2. They are considering capacity with the modulars, not without.

So while there’s projected growth in Annandale, and the current capacity is perfect for phasing out the modulars, they’re going to fill them back up.

And, look at that, in the efforts to fix the Holmes to Annandale and Edison split feeder, they’ve created a Holmes to Annandale/Justice split feeder in the 4-11 presentation, slide 12 that’s never addressed!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s really funny to see the whining from the equity warriors right now because thru saw through their pretext and saw the naked equity attempt.

Glad that the school board and superintendent came to their senses on it. They saved the county tax base and the Fairfax county Democratic Party by not listening to the extreme left flank.

What are you talking about? Plenty of neighborhoods (including mine) are slated to get moved. Nothing has been decided yet.

It's just a Forestville, Great Falls, or even worse one of the "good" Herndon address homeowners doing a victory lap because they weren't moved. They don't care about you or your family, only that they got what they wanted.

DP. I belong in none of your odd "categories," but having followed this discussion for months, I am loving the fact that people like you got a metaphorical pie in the face. You've been insisting that one particular community be moved - because you hate them - and that didn't happen. But what do you know? YOUR kids are going to be moved. Sorry, that is karma in a nutshell.

I hope you learned your lesson. Worry about your own kids.

DP. Aren’t you that creepy Colvin Run mom who has posting on here for years? You single-handedly keep Langley’s enrollment down below 105% because people don’t want to be around people like you or your kids.

You’re like a scarecrow in a field. Forestville should pay you a commission.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s really funny to see the whining from the equity warriors right now because thru saw through their pretext and saw the naked equity attempt.

Glad that the school board and superintendent came to their senses on it. They saved the county tax base and the Fairfax county Democratic Party by not listening to the extreme left flank.

What are you talking about? Plenty of neighborhoods (including mine) are slated to get moved. Nothing has been decided yet.

It's just a Forestville, Great Falls, or even worse one of the "good" Herndon address homeowners doing a victory lap because they weren't moved. They don't care about you or your family, only that they got what they wanted.

DP. I belong in none of your odd "categories," but having followed this discussion for months, I am loving the fact that people like you got a metaphorical pie in the face. You've been insisting that one particular community be moved - because you hate them - and that didn't happen. But what do you know? YOUR kids are going to be moved. Sorry, that is karma in a nutshell.

I hope you learned your lesson. Worry about your own kids.

Nope. I bought after the 2008 boundary fiasco. Made sure to buy solidly inside our target school zone. Zero chance we get moved. I'm still allowed to point out the hypocrisy of posters here who hated Thru when they worried they would be move, but now sing their praises for making the "right" decisions (that didn't involve their boundary). It's so obvious.
So no pie in the face here. With the new wording of policy 8130 I don't see how anyone would consider paying the Langley premium for any Forestville home though. It's a foregone conclusion that as Tysons grows they will end up at Herndon eventually. All that stress every 5 years won't be fun.

Serious question- at what point should we be concerned with your obsession? You spent hours yesterday on this discussion forum obsessing over a school not being moved as part of the boundary review, including posting in the wee hours of the morning.

DP. You’re posting at 5:39 and you regularly post after midnight. Tell us all about your sleep and travel schedules.