Subtle signs of class

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, this thread is increasingly seeming destined to become a DCUM classic

We are debating whether UC WASPs go to Portugal and the class distinctions signaled by Pottery Barn vs. Stickley (as if this were a question).

What’s wrong with stickler?

It’s hand made, all wood stuff (no veneer or particle board)

Super weird that you assume that Stickley was the lower class of the two. I guess you know what that means about your own class status

People were laughing at the suggestion that Stickley is a store worth buying from. I was wondering why they are scoffing.

Apparently because they don’t make “original” one of a kind furniture.

Personally I live Stickley and have bought a lot of furniture from them. My dining set was over 12k on sale.

Oh dear.

The Stickley poster has just proven she is very middle class. She may have money, but her core values are working class to middle class.

I’m trying to clarify class here. UC don’t buy “dining sets” because they either inherit antique pieces or purchase antiques that complement each other and are not matching (sideboards, china cabinets). Is that correct?

Stickley poster here. My sideboard doesn't "match" my table and chairs. I used the phrase "dining set" to mean a table plus 8 chairs. They actually do match because I wanted the ones with the in lay, which I think is really pretty.

Even buying a "set" with matching table and chairs (which is what I assumed you meant by "dining set") is a class marker. It's silly, maybe, but it is what it is. My parents did not inherit a lot, but they never bought sets. And they mixed-and-matched estate pieces with custom furniture. E.g. their dining room furniture is a mix of antique chairs that have been reupholstered and a custom dining table (Henredon and Baker, I think, but I'm not sure).

I have a similar story about multiple family antiques that were shipped from Britain (where we still have family) to the US for our wedding. I don’t want to say more in case I know any of you. I don’t talk about them unless someone asks.

LOL. You all are just too much.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, this thread is increasingly seeming destined to become a DCUM classic

We are debating whether UC WASPs go to Portugal and the class distinctions signaled by Pottery Barn vs. Stickley (as if this were a question).

What’s wrong with stickler?

It’s hand made, all wood stuff (no veneer or particle board)

Super weird that you assume that Stickley was the lower class of the two. I guess you know what that means about your own class status

People were laughing at the suggestion that Stickley is a store worth buying from. I was wondering why they are scoffing.

Apparently because they don’t make “original” one of a kind furniture.

Personally I live Stickley and have bought a lot of furniture from them. My dining set was over 12k on sale.

Oh dear.

The Stickley poster has just proven she is very middle class. She may have money, but her core values are working class to middle class.

I’m trying to clarify class here. UC don’t buy “dining sets” because they either inherit antique pieces or purchase antiques that complement each other and are not matching (sideboards, china cabinets). Is that correct?

Stickley poster here. My sideboard doesn't "match" my table and chairs. I used the phrase "dining set" to mean a table plus 8 chairs. They actually do match because I wanted the ones with the in lay, which I think is really pretty.

Even buying a "set" with matching table and chairs (which is what I assumed you meant by "dining set") is a class marker. It's silly, maybe, but it is what it is. My parents did not inherit a lot, but they never bought sets. And they mixed-and-matched estate pieces with custom furniture. E.g. their dining room furniture is a mix of antique chairs that have been reupholstered and a custom dining table (Henredon and Baker, I think, but I'm not sure).

I have a similar story about multiple family antiques that were shipped from Britain (where we still have family) to the US for our wedding. I don’t want to say more in case I know any of you. I don’t talk about them unless someone asks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, this thread is increasingly seeming destined to become a DCUM classic

We are debating whether UC WASPs go to Portugal and the class distinctions signaled by Pottery Barn vs. Stickley (as if this were a question).

What’s wrong with stickler?

It’s hand made, all wood stuff (no veneer or particle board)

Super weird that you assume that Stickley was the lower class of the two. I guess you know what that means about your own class status

People were laughing at the suggestion that Stickley is a store worth buying from. I was wondering why they are scoffing.

Apparently because they don’t make “original” one of a kind furniture.

Personally I live Stickley and have bought a lot of furniture from them. My dining set was over 12k on sale.

Oh dear.

The Stickley poster has just proven she is very middle class. She may have money, but her core values are working class to middle class.

I’m trying to clarify class here. UC don’t buy “dining sets” because they either inherit antique pieces or purchase antiques that complement each other and are not matching (sideboards, china cabinets). Is that correct?

Yes, that’s correct. Things don’t match, but separately they’re amazing and they do blend together. Often there were family members over the generations who collected this stuff (because let’s face it, someone had to buy it in the first place) and the current generation owns the lot.

UC doesn’t mention prices, either.

If you watch certain movies, UC Brits are always snarking about things like fish knives. The point here is that, if your silverware includes fish knives, that means someone in the family bought it during the Victorian era (when fishknives were introduced) or later. Meaning, you may have inherited your silverware, but your family money is not old old. For this US this seems pretty unrealistic.

I don’t like antique furniture because it’s usually scuffed up and scratched. I get that’s part of the appeal for these people but I think it’s ugly and stupid. Just buy something new that will actually look nice.

Nobody’s saying you have to buy antique furniture. It’s just that class is the subject of this thread. Also, reupholsters and refinishers (although preserving original patina is valued and is historically responsible) exist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok, this thread is increasingly seeming destined to become a DCUM classic

We are debating whether UC WASPs go to Portugal and the class distinctions signaled by Pottery Barn vs. Stickley (as if this were a question).

What’s wrong with stickler?

It’s hand made, all wood stuff (no veneer or particle board)

Super weird that you assume that Stickley was the lower class of the two. I guess you know what that means about your own class status

People were laughing at the suggestion that Stickley is a store worth buying from. I was wondering why they are scoffing.

Apparently because they don’t make “original” one of a kind furniture.

Personally I live Stickley and have bought a lot of furniture from them. My dining set was over 12k on sale.

Oh dear.

The Stickley poster has just proven she is very middle class. She may have money, but her core values are working class to middle class.

I’m trying to clarify class here. UC don’t buy “dining sets” because they either inherit antique pieces or purchase antiques that complement each other and are not matching (sideboards, china cabinets). Is that correct?

Stickley poster here. My sideboard doesn't "match" my table and chairs. I used the phrase "dining set" to mean a table plus 8 chairs. They actually do match because I wanted the ones with the in lay, which I think is really pretty.

Even buying a "set" with matching table and chairs (which is what I assumed you meant by "dining set") is a class marker. It's silly, maybe, but it is what it is. My parents did not inherit a lot, but they never bought sets. And they mixed-and-matched estate pieces with custom furniture. E.g. their dining room furniture is a mix of antique chairs that have been reupholstered and a custom dining table (Henredon and Baker, I think, but I'm not sure).

So your parents furniture doesn’t match (and is probably looking worn). What about YOUR furniture? You’re an adult. Time to stop talking about what your parents have

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, this thread is increasingly seeming destined to become a DCUM classic

We are debating whether UC WASPs go to Portugal and the class distinctions signaled by Pottery Barn vs. Stickley (as if this were a question).

What’s wrong with stickler?

It’s hand made, all wood stuff (no veneer or particle board)

Super weird that you assume that Stickley was the lower class of the two. I guess you know what that means about your own class status

People were laughing at the suggestion that Stickley is a store worth buying from. I was wondering why they are scoffing.

Apparently because they don’t make “original” one of a kind furniture.

Personally I live Stickley and have bought a lot of furniture from them. My dining set was over 12k on sale.

Oh dear.

The Stickley poster has just proven she is very middle class. She may have money, but her core values are working class to middle class.

I’m trying to clarify class here. UC don’t buy “dining sets” because they either inherit antique pieces or purchase antiques that complement each other and are not matching (sideboards, china cabinets). Is that correct?

Yes, that’s correct. Things don’t match, but separately they’re amazing and they do blend together. Often there were family members over the generations who collected this stuff (because let’s face it, someone had to buy it in the first place) and the current generation owns the lot.

UC doesn’t mention prices, either.

If you watch certain movies, UC Brits are always snarking about things like fish knives. The point here is that, if your silverware includes fish knives, that means someone in the family bought it during the Victorian era (when fishknives were introduced) or later. Meaning, you may have inherited your silverware, but your family money is not old old. For this US this seems pretty unrealistic.

I don’t like antique furniture because it’s usually scuffed up and scratched. I get that’s part of the appeal for these people but I think it’s ugly and stupid. Just buy something new that will actually look nice.

Nobody’s saying you have to buy antique furniture. It’s just that class is the subject of this thread. Also, reupholsters and refinishers (although preserving original patina is valued and is historically responsible) exist.

You don’t even realize that you’re STILL talking about Old Money WASP culture as if it’s the be all and end all. It’s not!

[Anonymous]

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I'd rather have money than class. I think that's true of most people. You can find nice, down to earth people who aren't snobby everywhere. Make friends with them and enjoy your money. Don't worry about what other people think, especially the snobs on here.

Class does not mean snobby. In fact, the old WASP class downplays its money with old cars and clothes. If you want snobby, join the horse-new money circuit and watch them eyeball your SUV.

You don’t think the posters in here gate keeping who is UC and who is not are not being snobby?!

People are asking. And others are promoting things like dining sets, dog shows, and last names as first names as being “upper class.” Someone has to fix that sh!t.

[Anonymous]

I have a sideboard that doesn’t match. We kept it but got rid of the table because it fell apart. We bought a new table I loved for $$$$. And then I bought some chairs that don’t match that were on sale. So I am LC and UC all rolled in to one. Thanks DCUM!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok, this thread is increasingly seeming destined to become a DCUM classic

We are debating whether UC WASPs go to Portugal and the class distinctions signaled by Pottery Barn vs. Stickley (as if this were a question).

What’s wrong with stickler?

It’s hand made, all wood stuff (no veneer or particle board)

Super weird that you assume that Stickley was the lower class of the two. I guess you know what that means about your own class status

People were laughing at the suggestion that Stickley is a store worth buying from. I was wondering why they are scoffing.

Apparently because they don’t make “original” one of a kind furniture.

Personally I live Stickley and have bought a lot of furniture from them. My dining set was over 12k on sale.

Oh dear.

The Stickley poster has just proven she is very middle class. She may have money, but her core values are working class to middle class.

I’m trying to clarify class here. UC don’t buy “dining sets” because they either inherit antique pieces or purchase antiques that complement each other and are not matching (sideboards, china cabinets). Is that correct?

Stickley poster here. My sideboard doesn't "match" my table and chairs. I used the phrase "dining set" to mean a table plus 8 chairs. They actually do match because I wanted the ones with the in lay, which I think is really pretty.

Even buying a "set" with matching table and chairs (which is what I assumed you meant by "dining set") is a class marker. It's silly, maybe, but it is what it is. My parents did not inherit a lot, but they never bought sets. And they mixed-and-matched estate pieces with custom furniture. E.g. their dining room furniture is a mix of antique chairs that have been reupholstered and a custom dining table (Henredon and Baker, I think, but I'm not sure).

I have a similar story about multiple family antiques that were shipped from Britain (where we still have family) to the US for our wedding. I don’t want to say more in case I know any of you. I don’t talk about them unless someone asks.

Unlike the PPs, I like learning about things like this. Do the UC register for wedding gifts? Or do they just assume they will receive antiques from family?

[Anonymous]

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Nobody’s saying you have to buy antique furniture. It’s just that class is the subject of this thread. Also, reupholsters and refinishers (although preserving original patina is valued and is historically responsible) exist.

You don’t even realize that you’re STILL talking about Old Money WASP culture as if it’s the be all and end all. It’s not!

It is, however, the subject of this thread. Find a new thread if you don’t like this topic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, this thread is increasingly seeming destined to become a DCUM classic

We are debating whether UC WASPs go to Portugal and the class distinctions signaled by Pottery Barn vs. Stickley (as if this were a question).

What’s wrong with stickler?

It’s hand made, all wood stuff (no veneer or particle board)

Super weird that you assume that Stickley was the lower class of the two. I guess you know what that means about your own class status

People were laughing at the suggestion that Stickley is a store worth buying from. I was wondering why they are scoffing.

Apparently because they don’t make “original” one of a kind furniture.

Personally I live Stickley and have bought a lot of furniture from them. My dining set was over 12k on sale.

Oh dear.

The Stickley poster has just proven she is very middle class. She may have money, but her core values are working class to middle class.

I’m trying to clarify class here. UC don’t buy “dining sets” because they either inherit antique pieces or purchase antiques that complement each other and are not matching (sideboards, china cabinets). Is that correct?

Stickley poster here. My sideboard doesn't "match" my table and chairs. I used the phrase "dining set" to mean a table plus 8 chairs. They actually do match because I wanted the ones with the in lay, which I think is really pretty.

Even buying a "set" with matching table and chairs (which is what I assumed you meant by "dining set") is a class marker. It's silly, maybe, but it is what it is. My parents did not inherit a lot, but they never bought sets. And they mixed-and-matched estate pieces with custom furniture. E.g. their dining room furniture is a mix of antique chairs that have been reupholstered and a custom dining table (Henredon and Baker, I think, but I'm not sure).

I have a similar story about multiple family antiques that were shipped from Britain (where we still have family) to the US for our wedding. I don’t want to say more in case I know any of you. I don’t talk about them unless someone asks.

Unlike the PPs, I like learning about things like this. Do the UC register for wedding gifts? Or do they just assume they will receive antiques from family?

I am sorry. She cannot talk more about this. UC fight club.

[Anonymous]

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I'd rather have money than class. I think that's true of most people. You can find nice, down to earth people who aren't snobby everywhere. Make friends with them and enjoy your money. Don't worry about what other people think, especially the snobs on here.

Class does not mean snobby. In fact, the old WASP class downplays its money with old cars and clothes. If you want snobby, join the horse-new money circuit and watch them eyeball your SUV.

You don’t think the posters in here gate keeping who is UC and who is not are not being snobby?!

People are asking. And others are promoting things like dining sets, dog shows, and last names as first names as being “upper class.” Someone has to fix that sh!t.

The dining set poster was promoting Stickley furniture as being nice, handmade stuff (which I agree with). She’s not promoting dining sets. Ya’ll are just attacking her for mistakenly using the word “set.” Snobby AF. You’re the least classy person in here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a sideboard that doesn’t match. We kept it but got rid of the table because it fell apart. We bought a new table I loved for $$$$. And then I bought some chairs that don’t match that were on sale. So I am LC and UC all rolled in to one. Thanks DCUM!

We’re here to help!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a sideboard that doesn’t match. We kept it but got rid of the table because it fell apart. We bought a new table I loved for $$$$. And then I bought some chairs that don’t match that were on sale. So I am LC and UC all rolled in to one. Thanks DCUM!

I like to tastefully display antiques from the family estate in England on my IKEA Billy bookcase. For real.

[Anonymous]

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Nobody’s saying you have to buy antique furniture. It’s just that class is the subject of this thread. Also, reupholsters and refinishers (although preserving original patina is valued and is historically responsible) exist.

You don’t even realize that you’re STILL talking about Old Money WASP culture as if it’s the be all and end all. It’s not!

It is, however, the subject of this thread. Find a new thread if you don’t like this topic.

There are lots of rich people though.

What about Hollywood elite? Tech elite? Southern rich? Indian rich? Chinese rich?

None of them aspire to live like miserly WASPs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have a sideboard that doesn’t match. We kept it but got rid of the table because it fell apart. We bought a new table I loved for $$$$. And then I bought some chairs that don’t match that were on sale. So I am LC and UC all rolled in to one. Thanks DCUM!

I like to tastefully display antiques from the family estate in England on my IKEA Billy bookcase. For real.

IKEA is soooooo classy