The Bike Lobby is too powerful in DC...

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t care if the bike lobby raises money from its members. Bring it on. But I care a whole hell of a lot that the DC government is funnelling hard-earned taxpayer dollars to support the bike lobby so that they can turn around and agitate for something costly that will have negative consequences for many. Think of how the WABA subsidy and the bike lane construction money otherwise could be spent, for better DC schools, more cops, more timely 911 responsiveness

Positive consequences for many, you mean. Fewer car crashes, less noise, EMS/police resources freed up, better mobility for people not in a car, economic benefits for businesses in the Connecticut Ave corridor.

The Connecticut Ave corridor where the stabbing just occurred?

Are you saying that the planned bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue caused the stabbing?

Not at all. Just not sure I'd want to be riding a bike in an area that's dangerous. I would feel very vulnerable.

How do you feel about driving in an area where there's been a carjacking?

I don't like it at all, but I would feel especially vulnerable if walking or on a bike.

Do you ever park your car, get out, and walk into a store? Or do you only go through drive-thrus?

Would depend on the area.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t care if the bike lobby raises money from its members. Bring it on. But I care a whole hell of a lot that the DC government is funnelling hard-earned taxpayer dollars to support the bike lobby so that they can turn around and agitate for something costly that will have negative consequences for many. Think of how the WABA subsidy and the bike lane construction money otherwise could be spent, for better DC schools, more cops, more timely 911 responsiveness

Positive consequences for many, you mean. Fewer car crashes, less noise, EMS/police resources freed up, better mobility for people not in a car, economic benefits for businesses in the Connecticut Ave corridor.

The Connecticut Ave corridor where the stabbing just occurred?

Are you saying that the planned bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue caused the stabbing?

Not at all. Just not sure I'd want to be riding a bike in an area that's dangerous. I would feel very vulnerable.

If you’re nervous to ride your bike in an area where someone was stabbed, you should be far more nervous to ride your bike in an area without protected bike lanes. I see a lot more car accidents than stabbings. (Fortunately, most of the time no one’s hurt in the car crashes, but they’re dangerous if you’re on a bike.)

That makes no sense.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t care if the bike lobby raises money from its members. Bring it on. But I care a whole hell of a lot that the DC government is funnelling hard-earned taxpayer dollars to support the bike lobby so that they can turn around and agitate for something costly that will have negative consequences for many. Think of how the WABA subsidy and the bike lane construction money otherwise could be spent, for better DC schools, more cops, more timely 911 responsiveness

Positive consequences for many, you mean. Fewer car crashes, less noise, EMS/police resources freed up, better mobility for people not in a car, economic benefits for businesses in the Connecticut Ave corridor.

The Connecticut Ave corridor where the stabbing just occurred?

Are you saying that the planned bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue caused the stabbing?

Not at all. Just not sure I'd want to be riding a bike in an area that's dangerous. I would feel very vulnerable.

If you’re nervous to ride your bike in an area where someone was stabbed, you should be far more nervous to ride your bike in an area without protected bike lanes. I see a lot more car accidents than stabbings. (Fortunately, most of the time no one’s hurt in the car crashes, but they’re dangerous if you’re on a bike.)

That makes no sense.

DP. It makes perfect sense to me. There are a lot more car crashes than stabbings.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t care if the bike lobby raises money from its members. Bring it on. But I care a whole hell of a lot that the DC government is funnelling hard-earned taxpayer dollars to support the bike lobby so that they can turn around and agitate for something costly that will have negative consequences for many. Think of how the WABA subsidy and the bike lane construction money otherwise could be spent, for better DC schools, more cops, more timely 911 responsiveness

Positive consequences for many, you mean. Fewer car crashes, less noise, EMS/police resources freed up, better mobility for people not in a car, economic benefits for businesses in the Connecticut Ave corridor.

The Connecticut Ave corridor where the stabbing just occurred?

Are you saying that the planned bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue caused the stabbing?

No, but can we vote out elected officials (ANC and council) who apparently care more about bike lanes than focusing on rising crime along Connecticut Ave?!

Empirically, the answer is that no, you (whoever "we" even is) can not do this. The voters voted for elected officials who support the Connecticut Avenue bike lanes.

Yes, the voters can if they decide they don't like the performance of the official. And it seems they don't.

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Anonymous wrote:It's kind of insane how much of our transportation resources have been hijacked by a tiny group of Bernie bros

Males with no kids benefit - anyone with kids is not using the bike lanes in the am and I never had a job that I could show up sweaty wearing biking clothing makes no sense

I (a woman) biked my kids to school regularly for years while en route to my fancy downtown office job. There was a gym onsite, so I could shower and dress there.

And what happened during severe thunderstorms?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t care if the bike lobby raises money from its members. Bring it on. But I care a whole hell of a lot that the DC government is funnelling hard-earned taxpayer dollars to support the bike lobby so that they can turn around and agitate for something costly that will have negative consequences for many. Think of how the WABA subsidy and the bike lane construction money otherwise could be spent, for better DC schools, more cops, more timely 911 responsiveness

Giving DC (and region) residents the ability to get around town more safely without a car is always a good investment. Sorry it might take you 10 more minutes to get to work.

Agree. If only we had a metrorail or bus system that went along Connecticut Ave so people wouldn't need to use cars...

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t care if the bike lobby raises money from its members. Bring it on. But I care a whole hell of a lot that the DC government is funnelling hard-earned taxpayer dollars to support the bike lobby so that they can turn around and agitate for something costly that will have negative consequences for many. Think of how the WABA subsidy and the bike lane construction money otherwise could be spent, for better DC schools, more cops, more timely 911 responsiveness

Positive consequences for many, you mean. Fewer car crashes, less noise, EMS/police resources freed up, better mobility for people not in a car, economic benefits for businesses in the Connecticut Ave corridor.

The Connecticut Ave corridor where the stabbing just occurred?

Are you saying that the planned bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue caused the stabbing?

Not at all. Just not sure I'd want to be riding a bike in an area that's dangerous. I would feel very vulnerable.

How do you feel about driving in an area where there's been a carjacking?

Far safer than I would on a bike.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t care if the bike lobby raises money from its members. Bring it on. But I care a whole hell of a lot that the DC government is funnelling hard-earned taxpayer dollars to support the bike lobby so that they can turn around and agitate for something costly that will have negative consequences for many. Think of how the WABA subsidy and the bike lane construction money otherwise could be spent, for better DC schools, more cops, more timely 911 responsiveness

Positive consequences for many, you mean. Fewer car crashes, less noise, EMS/police resources freed up, better mobility for people not in a car, economic benefits for businesses in the Connecticut Ave corridor.

The Connecticut Ave corridor where the stabbing just occurred?

Are you saying that the planned bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue caused the stabbing?

No, but can we vote out elected officials (ANC and council) who apparently care more about bike lanes than focusing on rising crime along Connecticut Ave?!

Empirically, the answer is that no, you (whoever "we" even is) can not do this. The voters voted for elected officials who support the Connecticut Avenue bike lanes.

You'd be surprised how a couple of daytime shootings or stabbings can make voters sour on their elected candidates. And there are recall mechanisms. Bike bros will be destroyed by soccer moms.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t care if the bike lobby raises money from its members. Bring it on. But I care a whole hell of a lot that the DC government is funnelling hard-earned taxpayer dollars to support the bike lobby so that they can turn around and agitate for something costly that will have negative consequences for many. Think of how the WABA subsidy and the bike lane construction money otherwise could be spent, for better DC schools, more cops, more timely 911 responsiveness

Positive consequences for many, you mean. Fewer car crashes, less noise, EMS/police resources freed up, better mobility for people not in a car, economic benefits for businesses in the Connecticut Ave corridor.

The Connecticut Ave corridor where the stabbing just occurred?

Are you saying that the planned bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue caused the stabbing?

No, but can we vote out elected officials (ANC and council) who apparently care more about bike lanes than focusing on rising crime along Connecticut Ave?!

Empirically, the answer is that no, you (whoever "we" even is) can not do this. The voters voted for elected officials who support the Connecticut Avenue bike lanes.

You'd be surprised how a couple of daytime shootings or stabbings can make voters sour on their elected candidates. And there are recall mechanisms. Bike bros will be destroyed by soccer moms.

Not a bike bro here, but most of the supporters of the bike lanes I know (I live off Connecticut Ave) ARE soccer moms. The only people I know against the bike lanes are some cranky old white guys.

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Agree. If only we had a metrorail or bus system that went along Connecticut Ave so people wouldn't need to use cars...

It's only an either/or proposition to car-brained drivers.

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You know, people can care about both, right?

Drivers will wash their hands in the blood of murder victims to maintain their car supremacist infrastructure and transportation policy.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t care if the bike lobby raises money from its members. Bring it on. But I care a whole hell of a lot that the DC government is funnelling hard-earned taxpayer dollars to support the bike lobby so that they can turn around and agitate for something costly that will have negative consequences for many. Think of how the WABA subsidy and the bike lane construction money otherwise could be spent, for better DC schools, more cops, more timely 911 responsiveness

Positive consequences for many, you mean. Fewer car crashes, less noise, EMS/police resources freed up, better mobility for people not in a car, economic benefits for businesses in the Connecticut Ave corridor.

The Connecticut Ave corridor where the stabbing just occurred?

Are you saying that the planned bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue caused the stabbing?

No, but can we vote out elected officials (ANC and council) who apparently care more about bike lanes than focusing on rising crime along Connecticut Ave?!

Empirically, the answer is that no, you (whoever "we" even is) can not do this. The voters voted for elected officials who support the Connecticut Avenue bike lanes.

You'd be surprised how a couple of daytime shootings or stabbings can make voters sour on their elected candidates. And there are recall mechanisms. Bike bros will be destroyed by soccer moms.

Not a bike bro here, but most of the supporters of the bike lanes I know (I live off Connecticut Ave) ARE soccer moms. The only people I know against the bike lanes are some cranky old white guys.

Specifically, cranky old white guys who yell at soccer moms (and dads).

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You know, people can care about both, right?

Drivers will wash their hands in the blood of murder victims to maintain their car supremacist infrastructure and transportation policy.

You forgot to write "colonialist."

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t care if the bike lobby raises money from its members. Bring it on. But I care a whole hell of a lot that the DC government is funnelling hard-earned taxpayer dollars to support the bike lobby so that they can turn around and agitate for something costly that will have negative consequences for many. Think of how the WABA subsidy and the bike lane construction money otherwise could be spent, for better DC schools, more cops, more timely 911 responsiveness

Positive consequences for many, you mean. Fewer car crashes, less noise, EMS/police resources freed up, better mobility for people not in a car, economic benefits for businesses in the Connecticut Ave corridor.

The Connecticut Ave corridor where the stabbing just occurred?

Are you saying that the planned bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue caused the stabbing?

No, but can we vote out elected officials (ANC and council) who apparently care more about bike lanes than focusing on rising crime along Connecticut Ave?!

Empirically, the answer is that no, you (whoever "we" even is) can not do this. The voters voted for elected officials who support the Connecticut Avenue bike lanes.

You'd be surprised how a couple of daytime shootings or stabbings can make voters sour on their elected candidates. And there are recall mechanisms. Bike bros will be destroyed by soccer moms.

Not a bike bro here, but most of the supporters of the bike lanes I know (I live off Connecticut Ave) ARE soccer moms. The only people I know against the bike lanes are some cranky old white guys.

The soccer moms I know on Porter and Reno are worried that the Connecticut Ave bike lanes will divert a lot more traffic to those streets, which will become less safe and cannot handle more thru traffic.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t care if the bike lobby raises money from its members. Bring it on. But I care a whole hell of a lot that the DC government is funnelling hard-earned taxpayer dollars to support the bike lobby so that they can turn around and agitate for something costly that will have negative consequences for many. Think of how the WABA subsidy and the bike lane construction money otherwise could be spent, for better DC schools, more cops, more timely 911 responsiveness

Positive consequences for many, you mean. Fewer car crashes, less noise, EMS/police resources freed up, better mobility for people not in a car, economic benefits for businesses in the Connecticut Ave corridor.

The Connecticut Ave corridor where the stabbing just occurred?

Are you saying that the planned bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue caused the stabbing?

No, but can we vote out elected officials (ANC and council) who apparently care more about bike lanes than focusing on rising crime along Connecticut Ave?!

Empirically, the answer is that no, you (whoever "we" even is) can not do this. The voters voted for elected officials who support the Connecticut Avenue bike lanes.

You'd be surprised how a couple of daytime shootings or stabbings can make voters sour on their elected candidates. And there are recall mechanisms. Bike bros will be destroyed by soccer moms.

Not a bike bro here, but most of the supporters of the bike lanes I know (I live off Connecticut Ave) ARE soccer moms. The only people I know against the bike lanes are some cranky old white guys.

The soccer moms I know on Porter and Reno are worried that the Connecticut Ave bike lanes will divert a lot more traffic to those streets, which will become less safe and cannot handle more thru traffic.

This is a valid fear. You want to keep as much of the car through traffic on Connecticut as possible.

The worst case scenario here is that building bike lanes on CT leads to spill-over traffic and parking on local roads, while the bike lanes are underutilized. That's a recipe for killing bike infrastructure citywide, the way the streetcar killed the idea of trams for a generation.

I'll keep beating this dead horse, but the place to put bike infrastructure is on Reno, not Connecticut. Who exactly is going to want to ride on Connecticut? People who don't mind riding next to 4+ lanes of stop-light drag racers, buses and trucks, with drivers turning through them every block, all 12 of them. No one is going to let their kids ride on these, and many parents won't even let their MS or HS kids ride there.

If you're going to build bike infrastructure, build it where its safe and pleasant to ride. If you can't picture kids riding in the lanes, then you are doing something wrong.