Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Never ever in the history of testimony has someone ever given false testimony!

The ratings of these hearings are deplorable. The vast majority of the country has moved on. This grandstanding non both sides is wasting time and money. The country has moved on and is worried about inflation, crumbling infrastructure, and high gas prices. They really do not care as much as the small minority of posters here seem to think they do or should.

Completely false. Millions are watching. Millions want accountability.

Maybe a million but most don't care as impeachment failures made everything seem political

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never ever in the history of testimony has someone ever given false testimony!

The ratings of these hearings are deplorable. The vast majority of the country has moved on. This grandstanding non both sides is wasting time and money. The country has moved on and is worried about inflation, crumbling infrastructure, and high gas prices. They really do not care as much as the small minority of posters here seem to think they do or should.

Completely false. Millions are watching. Millions want accountability.

Maybe a million but most don't care as impeachment failures made everything seem political

Haha. Ok.

I think people are paying attention.

I was critical that the commission took so long to do these hearings. Now I understand how letting people’s jets cool for a bit works in their favor if they’re trying to get the story of what happened out to the people.

It’s working.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never ever in the history of testimony has someone ever given false testimony!

The ratings of these hearings are deplorable. The vast majority of the country has moved on. This grandstanding non both sides is wasting time and money. The country has moved on and is worried about inflation, crumbling infrastructure, and high gas prices. They really do not care as much as the small minority of posters here seem to think they do or should.

Completely false. Millions are watching. Millions want accountability.

Maybe a million but most don't care as impeachment failures made everything seem political

Yes the way the republicans ignored evidence, the constitution and our freedoms. Disgusting display politics by Republicans.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The driver can’t refute her story because her story is that this is what Ornato told her. The driver wasn’t in Ornato’s office when he told her. If it happened, Ornato and Engle aren’t going to admit it because they will protect Trump. There is no doubt that Trump wanted to go to the Capitol and was pissed when told he couldn’t. We know that because Trump said so when he got back to the White House. McEnany corroborated that he was mad and still wanted to go to the Capitol. If your only dispute with Hutchinson’s testimony is whether Trump could reach the steering wheel, that’s an irrelevant detail that may have been exaggerated by Engle telling Ornato or by Ornato telling Hutchinson. You still have Trump reaching for the driver, Engle grabbing Trump’s arm, and Trump grabbing Engle. Hutchinson didn’t make all that up. It’s the story she was told.

Oh boy. I thought Engle was the driver. No? Then the driver can’t refute that Ornato told her that story, but he could certainly have already corroborated that Trump lunged at the wheel. He could certainly corroborate that someone’s clavicle was endangered.

Oh I thought Engel was in the car? Anyway. Doesn’t really matter. Obviously they were shook by whatever happened and told her something.

Stop chasing this down the rabbit hole. It’s a distraction. She testified as to what was said in her presence. Others are free to testify as to what happened. Either way whether or not TFG tried to grab the wheel or threw a plate of food doesn’t move the needle. He is a malignant narcissist and clear snd present danger to our democracy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The driver can’t refute her story because her story is that this is what Ornato told her. The driver wasn’t in Ornato’s office when he told her. If it happened, Ornato and Engle aren’t going to admit it because they will protect Trump. There is no doubt that Trump wanted to go to the Capitol and was pissed when told he couldn’t. We know that because Trump said so when he got back to the White House. McEnany corroborated that he was mad and still wanted to go to the Capitol. If your only dispute with Hutchinson’s testimony is whether Trump could reach the steering wheel, that’s an irrelevant detail that may have been exaggerated by Engle telling Ornato or by Ornato telling Hutchinson. You still have Trump reaching for the driver, Engle grabbing Trump’s arm, and Trump grabbing Engle. Hutchinson didn’t make all that up. It’s the story she was told.

Oh boy. I thought Engle was the driver. No? Then the driver can’t refute that Ornato told her that story, but he could certainly have already corroborated that Trump lunged at the wheel. He could certainly corroborate that someone’s clavicle was endangered.

Oh I thought Engel was in the car? Anyway. Doesn’t really matter. Obviously they were shook by whatever happened and told her something.

Stop chasing this down the rabbit hole. It’s a distraction. She testified as to what was said in her presence. Others are free to testify as to what happened. Either way whether or not TFG tried to grab the wheel or threw a plate of food doesn’t move the needle. He is a malignant narcissist and clear snd present danger to our democracy.

These posters are very upset that the coup plot has been exposed. Not upset about the coup just that it has been exposed. They fully support the coup and over throw of the government of the US. Remember if you support trump you are a traitor to this country. This is their attempt to show support and continue the coup.

The committee has been investigating for a long time. They already have the SS testimony backing everything up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The driver can’t refute her story because her story is that this is what Ornato told her. The driver wasn’t in Ornato’s office when he told her. If it happened, Ornato and Engle aren’t going to admit it because they will protect Trump. There is no doubt that Trump wanted to go to the Capitol and was pissed when told he couldn’t. We know that because Trump said so when he got back to the White House. McEnany corroborated that he was mad and still wanted to go to the Capitol. If your only dispute with Hutchinson’s testimony is whether Trump could reach the steering wheel, that’s an irrelevant detail that may have been exaggerated by Engle telling Ornato or by Ornato telling Hutchinson. You still have Trump reaching for the driver, Engle grabbing Trump’s arm, and Trump grabbing Engle. Hutchinson didn’t make all that up. It’s the story she was told.

Oh boy. I thought Engle was the driver. No? Then the driver can’t refute that Ornato told her that story, but he could certainly have already corroborated that Trump lunged at the wheel. He could certainly corroborate that someone’s clavicle was endangered.

Oh I thought Engel was in the car? Anyway. Doesn’t really matter. Obviously they were shook by whatever happened and told her something.

Stop chasing this down the rabbit hole. It’s a distraction. She testified as to what was said in her presence. Others are free to testify as to what happened. Either way whether or not TFG tried to grab the wheel or threw a plate of food doesn’t move the needle. He is a malignant narcissist and clear snd present danger to our democracy.

Exactly. If you object to a few details from the testimony of any of these witnesses, go ahead. An avalanche of other evidence about the shocking attempt to throw out our votes remains.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never ever in the history of testimony has someone ever given false testimony!

The ratings of these hearings are deplorable. The vast majority of the country has moved on. This grandstanding non both sides is wasting time and money. The country has moved on and is worried about inflation, crumbling infrastructure, and high gas prices. They really do not care as much as the small minority of posters here seem to think they do or should.

Completely false. Millions are watching. Millions want accountability.

Maybe a million but most don't care as impeachment failures made everything seem political

It made naked the GOP’s political actions, yes. Regarding Trump’s first Impeachment, Ukraine says ‘hey.’

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The driver can’t refute her story because her story is that this is what Ornato told her. The driver wasn’t in Ornato’s office when he told her. If it happened, Ornato and Engle aren’t going to admit it because they will protect Trump. There is no doubt that Trump wanted to go to the Capitol and was pissed when told he couldn’t. We know that because Trump said so when he got back to the White House. McEnany corroborated that he was mad and still wanted to go to the Capitol. If your only dispute with Hutchinson’s testimony is whether Trump could reach the steering wheel, that’s an irrelevant detail that may have been exaggerated by Engle telling Ornato or by Ornato telling Hutchinson. You still have Trump reaching for the driver, Engle grabbing Trump’s arm, and Trump grabbing Engle. Hutchinson didn’t make all that up. It’s the story she was told.

Oh boy. I thought Engle was the driver. No? Then the driver can’t refute that Ornato told her that story, but he could certainly have already corroborated that Trump lunged at the wheel. He could certainly corroborate that someone’s clavicle was endangered.

Oh I thought Engel was in the car? Anyway. Doesn’t really matter. Obviously they were shook by whatever happened and told her something.

Stop chasing this down the rabbit hole. It’s a distraction. She testified as to what was said in her presence. Others are free to testify as to what happened. Either way whether or not TFG tried to grab the wheel or threw a plate of food doesn’t move the needle. He is a malignant narcissist and clear snd present danger to our democracy.

Exactly. If you object to a few details from the testimony of any of these witnesses, go ahead. An avalanche of other evidence about the shocking attempt to throw out our votes remains.

The shocking, well-organized, well-funded attempt to overthrow the government, with knowledge and support from all levels of the GOP.

[Anonymous]

Well, my white retired parents in a red state are watching. They are swing voters and trump has effectively turned them blue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The driver can’t refute her story because her story is that this is what Ornato told her. The driver wasn’t in Ornato’s office when he told her. If it happened, Ornato and Engle aren’t going to admit it because they will protect Trump. There is no doubt that Trump wanted to go to the Capitol and was pissed when told he couldn’t. We know that because Trump said so when he got back to the White House. McEnany corroborated that he was mad and still wanted to go to the Capitol. If your only dispute with Hutchinson’s testimony is whether Trump could reach the steering wheel, that’s an irrelevant detail that may have been exaggerated by Engle telling Ornato or by Ornato telling Hutchinson. You still have Trump reaching for the driver, Engle grabbing Trump’s arm, and Trump grabbing Engle. Hutchinson didn’t make all that up. It’s the story she was told.

Oh boy. I thought Engle was the driver. No? Then the driver can’t refute that Ornato told her that story, but he could certainly have already corroborated that Trump lunged at the wheel. He could certainly corroborate that someone’s clavicle was endangered.

Oh I thought Engel was in the car? Anyway. Doesn’t really matter. Obviously they were shook by whatever happened and told her something.

Stop chasing this down the rabbit hole. It’s a distraction. She testified as to what was said in her presence. Others are free to testify as to what happened. Either way whether or not TFG tried to grab the wheel or threw a plate of food doesn’t move the needle. He is a malignant narcissist and clear snd present danger to our democracy.

These posters are very upset that the coup plot has been exposed. Not upset about the coup just that it has been exposed. They fully support the coup and over throw of the government of the US. Remember if you support trump you are a traitor to this country. This is their attempt to show support and continue the coup.

The committee has been investigating for a long time. They already have the SS testimony backing everything up.

Exactly! Micheal Flynn, when asked if he believed in the peaceful transfer of power, took the fifth.
That is antithetical to our Constitution. If you agree with him, you don’t support 🇺🇸.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:25? How do you get high access at such a young age?

Question is… who is she now working for?

Democracy.

[Anonymous]

I am guessing the committee would be happy to have Engel and Ornato sit for a deposition (again or for the first time). But would certainly want the answers to more questions than just what happened in the SUV...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/26/pence-car-raskin-comments/

According to this, Tony Oronato’s actions that day are of great interest to the committee. And Pence knew not to trust certain agents that day.

It’s very strange for a USS member to become political staff also.

Extremely odd.

Also he lied about another witness’s testimony regarding LaFayette square. It’s interesting for sure how much rests on this guy’s knowledge and actions. But to be sure, if he isn’t truthful, it will all come out anyway.

Aren’t there two other people stating she lied as well?

No. There is a report from an anonymous source. Not even names attached, much less sworn testimony. She had no reason to make it up. It’s not even the important part of her testimony.


I think the most important part of her testimony is the bit about him knowing the crowd was armed and heading to the Capitol, the part about him knowing they were chanting for the death of the VP, and his own subsequent statements about the VP. They guy was trying to overthrow the election with violence. The end.

I don’t think that’s right. There were definitely two others, one named, the other the limo driver. If one part of her testimony is in question by SS, then the rest can’t be trusted either. Furthermore, they would have arrested Trump long ago on solid evidence, if they had it. The committee would not be necessary.

1) then they should all testify under oath. At the moment, one person has testified as to what another person said. Unless of until someone else testifies under oath to take exception, there is zero validity as to what someone reports via twitter
2) this is distracting from the more damning parts of the testimony, that there was foreknowledge of the violence that was to take place, that Trump was upset that his supporters who were brandishing weapons at the ellipse were being scanned for weapons, etc.

She already gave her sworn testimony under penalty of perjury. Until the "unnamed source" comes forward and testifies under oath, anything contradicting her existing sworn testimony is nothing but unsubstantiated rumor and has zero relevance to anything.

I am confident that an avalanche of witnesses is contacting the Committee today to offer to testify and refute her testimony under oath.
They will offer to be available right after Ginni Thomas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never ever in the history of testimony has someone ever given false testimony!

The ratings of these hearings are deplorable. The vast majority of the country has moved on. This grandstanding non both sides is wasting time and money. The country has moved on and is worried about inflation, crumbling infrastructure, and high gas prices. They really do not care as much as the small minority of posters here seem to think they do or should.

Completely false. Millions are watching. Millions want accountability.

MILLIONS are not watching. The ratings do not reflect.

[Anonymous]

Wow. I just read the transcript from yesterday and it was very damning for Trump. I don’t see how his supporters and Republicans can ignore this.