Gaza War, Part 3

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I think this is a mistake. The Houthi's will not stop now. It will only escalate.


The houthis were already escalating.

They are terrorists backed by Iran who hate America. Their only purpose is to wreak havoc.

Want something to worry about? Go onto the DHS website and see how many Yemenis entered the US in the last year or two along with Iranis and people from other countries that hate America. You’ll note they are all young men. Worry about acts of terror on US soil.

You’ll say, “That’s why we shouldn’t have bombed. Why poke the bear?”

Doesn’t matter. Iran is angling for war and will use their chess pieces to provoke until we engage. Swift and brutal response will be necessary.

This is terrible
If Israel could just end its brutal campaign of mightily vengeance, we would have world peace


If Hamas hadn't conducted that horrific terrorist attack against civilians on 10/7 we could have world peace.

And now we have Iran-backed terrorists randomly attacking peaceful civilian ships for no legitimate reason.

Sorry but Israel isn't solely to blame


"Radomly attacking' 'no legitimate reason'? There's nothing random about it, it's in clear response to the daily genocide we are witnessing on our screens everyday. Frankly I'm shocked the muslim world hasn't done more. Thankful but shocked.


The "Muslim world".

I thought this wasn't about religion?

Oops.


Yes, the 'muslim world' ie any muslim nation watching their 'brothers and sisters' being mutilated, killed, starved and tortured day in and day out. What isn't about religion? Everything is about power, religion, greed and ego. No?


But we've been repeatedly assured that this is not about the Jews?

Thanks for your honesty.

Bingo.


The hatred for Israeli actions in the ME is not about the Jewish religion. The jewish religion is a religion of peace. I'm sure there are many anti-semites and racist bigots all over who have it in for both jews and muslims, blacks, asians etc. I'm not sure your angel here. The majority of muslims in muslim counties don't condone the extremist acts of some. The same holds true for jews. Not all jew's consider Israel their country, and certainly most jews I know in the US and around the world outside of Israel do not support Israeli actions against Palestinians. It's nuanced and complex. Black and white it if it makes you feel better. Whatever helps you sleep.


The Jewish religion is not a religion of peace-it’s a religion of monotheism. Theyve always been at war with their neighbors -always and sometimes spar with each other though usually rhetorically .

Same thing with Christianity and Islam. There’s never been a “peaceful” era in history ever.

The question is Palestinians nor any other Arabs never really blocked Jewish immigration to the Middle East or had any problem with the Jews just like they didn’t block the British or Turkish .

The thing that set them off was losing their homes. Unlike Jews and Gulf Arabs and Bedouins , Palestinians weren’t a nomadic group of people. They lived in the same villages for centuries . There’s a key to one of the holy churches in Palestine that goes back centuries and to this day is actually held by the same Palestinian Muslim family that held it back then to be fair/keep peace between the different Christian denominations (Greek Orthodox, Armenian Orthodox, Catholic, Maronite, Assyrian) . This is to say Palestinians were known for being a multifaith and multiethnic society forever and Judaism or Jewish people were not their problem and still aren’t

Zionists had to have planned such an operation long before the Holocaust because you can’t successfully kick a million and some people off their land and nation build without some preplanning and getting another nations permission (UK) long before 1936


Islam is not a religion of peace. Yemen's Houthis literally call for the genocide of Americans, genocide of Israel, and for all Jews to be cursed, as their slogan. And nobody in the Islamic world condemns, questions or even bats an eyelash at that.


You are a racist, islamophobic jackass if you can't distinguish between a religion and those who wage war in the name of religion.


Calling people names doesn't change the fact that in the last 100 years far more terrorist attacks around the globe have happened in the name of Islam than any other religion. If you don't like it, then you need to get people to stop engaging in terrorism in the name of your religion, rather than stupidly yelling at others for merely pointing it out.


Your statement is stupid and racist - no religion is prone to violence.


I find it ironic that more people have been killed in the name of Islam, and having it explicitly stated as such, than have been killed by the Church of Satan. Who's the real Satan here? There are hundreds and hundreds of videos of people decapitating and otherwise murdering people while holding up Qurans and proclaiming how Islam and Allah are great, whereas I have yet to see even a single video of IDF troops holding up a Talmud while decapitating someone in the name of Yahweh.


Hello, are Jews not murdering Palestinians to the tune of 23,000 in 3 months? Is the IDF not getting its marching orders from right-wing religious zealots?


You didn't address the question. The answer is, NO, IDF is not going around decapitating people in the name of Jewish religion. Really quite telling that you couldn't admit that basic truth.

We know that Hamas inflates the numbers and exaggerates. We also know that per at least one source 7,000 of the people killed were Hamas fighters.

But that said, how many would it have been if Hamas hadn't launched a brutal rampaging massacre of civilians, killing women and children? Had Hamas not done that, a lot more Palestinians would be alive today. Accept that Hamas has the bulk of the responsibility in this. Lives could have been spared, but Hamas chose to waste Palestinian civilian lives by hiding behind them. Also quite telling that you refuse to acknowledge this as well.

You can't move on to presuming to talk about Israel without first acknowledging those truths and those key parts of the chain of events.


Regarding actual numbers, no group lies more than the pro-Israel shill machine. Let's not rehash the claim of 40 beheaded babies. And if I accept the unverified claim that 7,000 of those killed in Gaza are Hamas members, that's still 16,000 dead civilians, including thousands of children. I see you've also skipped over the thousands of Palestinians Israel murdered prior to 10/7. I guess Palestinian lives hold no value to you. Quelle surprise!

That said, Israel is an ethno-religuous state that has made it clear that establishing Jewish supremacy in the occupied area is an end goal. How then can you not see that Israel's genocide of Palestinians is motivated by religion? Are Zinonists idiots no longer a thing? Did they retire from their prophesizing? If Israel isn't slaughtering Palestinians in the name of some stupid religious belief and a fantasy god promising a holy homeland, then neither is Hamas.

And you're still a racist, islamophobe for claiming Islam is violent. People are violent, not religions.
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Anonymous wrote:Settler issues came with Netanyahu and Likud. But rather than dealing with a political issue using political means, Hamas chose large-scale massacre.


What? You’re saying there were no settlements before Netanyahu?


Fact: Settler policies have changed many times with Israeli elections and party politics. But here you are, like a petty, naive, immature dumbass, treating Israel like a monolith and glibly parroting uninformed pro-Hamas talking points which completely ignore actual facts and history.


Answer the question.
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I think this is a mistake. The Houthi's will not stop now. It will only escalate.


The houthis were already escalating.

They are terrorists backed by Iran who hate America. Their only purpose is to wreak havoc.

Want something to worry about? Go onto the DHS website and see how many Yemenis entered the US in the last year or two along with Iranis and people from other countries that hate America. You’ll note they are all young men. Worry about acts of terror on US soil.

You’ll say, “That’s why we shouldn’t have bombed. Why poke the bear?”

Doesn’t matter. Iran is angling for war and will use their chess pieces to provoke until we engage. Swift and brutal response will be necessary.

This is terrible
If Israel could just end its brutal campaign of mightily vengeance, we would have world peace


If Hamas hadn't conducted that horrific terrorist attack against civilians on 10/7 we could have world peace.

And now we have Iran-backed terrorists randomly attacking peaceful civilian ships for no legitimate reason.

Sorry but Israel isn't solely to blame


"Radomly attacking' 'no legitimate reason'? There's nothing random about it, it's in clear response to the daily genocide we are witnessing on our screens everyday. Frankly I'm shocked the muslim world hasn't done more. Thankful but shocked.


The "Muslim world".

I thought this wasn't about religion?

Oops.


Yes, the 'muslim world' ie any muslim nation watching their 'brothers and sisters' being mutilated, killed, starved and tortured day in and day out. What isn't about religion? Everything is about power, religion, greed and ego. No?


But we've been repeatedly assured that this is not about the Jews?

Thanks for your honesty.

Bingo.


The hatred for Israeli actions in the ME is not about the Jewish religion. The jewish religion is a religion of peace. I'm sure there are many anti-semites and racist bigots all over who have it in for both jews and muslims, blacks, asians etc. I'm not sure your angel here. The majority of muslims in muslim counties don't condone the extremist acts of some. The same holds true for jews. Not all jew's consider Israel their country, and certainly most jews I know in the US and around the world outside of Israel do not support Israeli actions against Palestinians. It's nuanced and complex. Black and white it if it makes you feel better. Whatever helps you sleep.


The Jewish religion is not a religion of peace-it’s a religion of monotheism. Theyve always been at war with their neighbors -always and sometimes spar with each other though usually rhetorically .

Same thing with Christianity and Islam. There’s never been a “peaceful” era in history ever.

The question is Palestinians nor any other Arabs never really blocked Jewish immigration to the Middle East or had any problem with the Jews just like they didn’t block the British or Turkish .

The thing that set them off was losing their homes. Unlike Jews and Gulf Arabs and Bedouins , Palestinians weren’t a nomadic group of people. They lived in the same villages for centuries . There’s a key to one of the holy churches in Palestine that goes back centuries and to this day is actually held by the same Palestinian Muslim family that held it back then to be fair/keep peace between the different Christian denominations (Greek Orthodox, Armenian Orthodox, Catholic, Maronite, Assyrian) . This is to say Palestinians were known for being a multifaith and multiethnic society forever and Judaism or Jewish people were not their problem and still aren’t

Zionists had to have planned such an operation long before the Holocaust because you can’t successfully kick a million and some people off their land and nation build without some preplanning and getting another nations permission (UK) long before 1936


- said the person who’s religion has, as a pillar of its faith, “holy war” (jihad).

I’m gonna go with Judaism is a whole lot more peaceful of a religion than Islam.



The Bolsheviks killed thirteen million in Russia . All Jews.

Killed all Christians


All atheists. What does Russian revolution have to do with religion? Dumbass comment


I can’t believe this is a serious question. It had everything to do with religion and making atheism the state religion and robbing the country’s wealthy and killing the rich, the clergy, the upper class.

And it absolutely has everything to do with why Putin is helping Hamas . Russian Christians have this resentment of the communist Revolution which was largely Jewish . Sorry to break it to you but that is what many of them believe

I think if anyone thinks Jews were just shrinking violets throughout Europe who did nothing when savage Christian’s discriminated against them , they’re deluded. Jews are as hot blooded as their Middle Eastern cousins if not more


Wow talk about poorly informed. Well, this Russian person is telling you that you are 100% deluded. There were pogroms against Jews in Russia (including what is now Ukraine, Moldova, and Belarus) throughout the 18th and the 19th and parts of the 20th century. Jews were not allowed to settle in large cities, 20 km on outside of the city was ok. Yes, savage discrimination against the Jews across Europe. You can deny it all you want to fit your crazy narrative, but you cannot rewrite history. Russians at this point have no resentment of the Revolution that happened a 106 years ago. Do they have resentment of the serfdom too? In fact all of those Jews that you think caused the revolution were promptly killed by Stalin between 1933 and 1938. Putin is bringing back Stalin’s statues across the country and renaming streets after the oldCommunist leaders. There were 12 prominent Jewish leaders in the revolution as opposed to 100s of others Russians, Poles, Ukrainians etc. But the 12 really make it hard for you to sleep right? The Jewish leaders of the Bolshevik revolution somehow define the entire people and invalidate the fact of the horrible treatment that Jews suffered in Europe for centuries? Russians are largely secular, and go to church on Easter and something we call the Parents Sunday . There is jo religious tension between Christian s and Jews in Russia, because the tensions are based on ethnicities and not religion. Russians don’t give a shit what others believe in, but they do give a shit if people look different and belong to a different ethnic group. Russians (ethnic Russians) who live in Russia are incredibly intolerant. Putin is supporting Hamas because it’s the anti-West thing to do. He will support anyone to embarrass the West. Also, there were quite a few Russian hostages in Gaza, all now released thanks to his negotiations with Hamas. In addition all Gaza Russian citizens have been evacuated from Gaza.


If what you're saying is true, it would seem Israel is using the same policies against Palestinians that Russia used against Jews.
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Anonymous wrote:Honestly my assessment is that religion causes more harm than good.

And my position is that Hamas on20/7 committed horrific acts. But the IDF has more retaliated.


Yes, they retaliated against Hamas. And why wouldn't they? It seems bizarre that some of the posters here are angry or bewildered, or think it's somehow unfair that Israel retaliated. What did they THINK would happen? And there are some who say "oh but there should have been negotiation" - like sure, Israel is going to walk up behind a crazed Hamas fighter as he's swinging a machete at a family and gently tap him on his blood soaked shoulder and say "um, guys, can we talk about this?" Please. Some of the posters here are either too wrapped up in their own myopic, one-sided BS and/or not grounded in reality and it shows.


They retaliated against children, not Hamas. Talk about "one-sided".


Hamas trains children to support and fight for Hamas.

That is on Hamas, not Israel.


Yes, the "Hamas made me do it" defense when in fact it was Israel's long-term agenda to cleanse the area of non Jews.
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Anonymous wrote:Honestly my assessment is that religion causes more harm than good.

And my position is that Hamas on20/7 committed horrific acts. But the IDF has more retaliated.


Yes, they retaliated against Hamas. And why wouldn't they? It seems bizarre that some of the posters here are angry or bewildered, or think it's somehow unfair that Israel retaliated. What did they THINK would happen? And there are some who say "oh but there should have been negotiation" - like sure, Israel is going to walk up behind a crazed Hamas fighter as he's swinging a machete at a family and gently tap him on his blood soaked shoulder and say "um, guys, can we talk about this?" Please. Some of the posters here are either too wrapped up in their own myopic, one-sided BS and/or not grounded in reality and it shows.


They retaliated against children, not Hamas. Talk about "one-sided".


Hamas trains children to support and fight for Hamas.

That is on Hamas, not Israel.


Yes, the "Hamas made me do it" defense when in fact it was Israel's long-term agenda to cleanse the area of non Jews.


You are absolutely disgusting.

Israel has no interest in ‘cleansing’ the area of non Jews.

They have an interest in protecting their people from the genocide that the Palestinians are actively committing against them. Protect their women from rape, torture, and murder at the hands of the monstrous Palestinian government. Protect their lovely children from kidnapping at the hands of Hamas. Yes, they are morally correct. They are protecting their country, a country personally granted to them by God and which has existed since before 1,000 BCE from the Palestinians who are outside ursupers trying to invade and steal Israeli land.
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Anonymous wrote:This isn't good.


I think this is a mistake. The Houthi's will not stop now. It will only escalate.


The houthis were already escalating.

They are terrorists backed by Iran who hate America. Their only purpose is to wreak havoc.

Want something to worry about? Go onto the DHS website and see how many Yemenis entered the US in the last year or two along with Iranis and people from other countries that hate America. You’ll note they are all young men. Worry about acts of terror on US soil.

You’ll say, “That’s why we shouldn’t have bombed. Why poke the bear?”

Doesn’t matter. Iran is angling for war and will use their chess pieces to provoke until we engage. Swift and brutal response will be necessary.

This is terrible
If Israel could just end its brutal campaign of mightily vengeance, we would have world peace


If Hamas hadn't conducted that horrific terrorist attack against civilians on 10/7 we could have world peace.

And now we have Iran-backed terrorists randomly attacking peaceful civilian ships for no legitimate reason.

Sorry but Israel isn't solely to blame


"Radomly attacking' 'no legitimate reason'? There's nothing random about it, it's in clear response to the daily genocide we are witnessing on our screens everyday. Frankly I'm shocked the muslim world hasn't done more. Thankful but shocked.


The "Muslim world".

I thought this wasn't about religion?

Oops.


Yes, the 'muslim world' ie any muslim nation watching their 'brothers and sisters' being mutilated, killed, starved and tortured day in and day out. What isn't about religion? Everything is about power, religion, greed and ego. No?


But we've been repeatedly assured that this is not about the Jews?

Thanks for your honesty.

Bingo.


The hatred for Israeli actions in the ME is not about the Jewish religion. The jewish religion is a religion of peace. I'm sure there are many anti-semites and racist bigots all over who have it in for both jews and muslims, blacks, asians etc. I'm not sure your angel here. The majority of muslims in muslim counties don't condone the extremist acts of some. The same holds true for jews. Not all jew's consider Israel their country, and certainly most jews I know in the US and around the world outside of Israel do not support Israeli actions against Palestinians. It's nuanced and complex. Black and white it if it makes you feel better. Whatever helps you sleep.


The Jewish religion is not a religion of peace-it’s a religion of monotheism. Theyve always been at war with their neighbors -always and sometimes spar with each other though usually rhetorically .

Same thing with Christianity and Islam. There’s never been a “peaceful” era in history ever.

The question is Palestinians nor any other Arabs never really blocked Jewish immigration to the Middle East or had any problem with the Jews just like they didn’t block the British or Turkish .

The thing that set them off was losing their homes. Unlike Jews and Gulf Arabs and Bedouins , Palestinians weren’t a nomadic group of people. They lived in the same villages for centuries . There’s a key to one of the holy churches in Palestine that goes back centuries and to this day is actually held by the same Palestinian Muslim family that held it back then to be fair/keep peace between the different Christian denominations (Greek Orthodox, Armenian Orthodox, Catholic, Maronite, Assyrian) . This is to say Palestinians were known for being a multifaith and multiethnic society forever and Judaism or Jewish people were not their problem and still aren’t

Zionists had to have planned such an operation long before the Holocaust because you can’t successfully kick a million and some people off their land and nation build without some preplanning and getting another nations permission (UK) long before 1936


- said the person who’s religion has, as a pillar of its faith, “holy war” (jihad).

I’m gonna go with Judaism is a whole lot more peaceful of a religion than Islam.



Pointless discussion. Many modern Muslims interpret Jihad as the battle between good and evil within oneself and not as wiping out infidels or idolaters. Every Imam interprets the Quran and Hadiths differently, so there are many, many different understandings and manifestations of Islam. Similarly, there is wide diversity within Judaism. Reconstructionist Judaism is very different from Orthodox Judaism. Much of the Hebrew Bible is as or more barbaric than the Quran. Look at Samuel 15:3, which has God supposedly saying:

"Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass."

Saul is even punished for not following God's wishes exactly. When Netanyahu invoked "the Amalekites," he placed himself in the same company as the most brutal, fundamentalist, and vicious of Muslims, and his own scriptures supported his stance. He gave the IDF license to kill the "infant and suckling" and even the animals. Animals are starving to death in the Gaza Zoo. I suspect Netanyahu is an atheist, but he has no qualms about manipulating his followers through religion.


This + 1,000

The fact is Netanyahu was raised by his father, who's real name was Benjamin Mileikowsky, to be a fascist. His father was the personal secretary for Jacobinsky who stated, " "Justice," he argued, "exists for those with the physical power and persistence to appropriate it for themselves." This is a foundational block of genocide. It is a genocidal tennet. https://mepc.org/journal/review-essay-revisionist-zionism-founder-his-disciple-and-their-chief-adversary

And Netanyahu has been crusading to expel all Arabs from Palestine since the early 1970's - decades before HAMAS even existed: this is him in 1970's articulating in his own twisted logic why " Palestine is the land only for the Jewish people .. and Arabs must go live elsewhere" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1c-DSZ_l9Q

It is Netanyahu and his R wing fanatic Likud that is responsible for the many decades or war and death in the middle east over the last decades. Their deepest wish is to goad the USA into bombing Iran for them.

Israel, under Likud, literally doesn't care if the entire world erupts into nuclear war, as long as only Jewish people can live in Palestine. That is the definition of fanaticism.
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Anonymous wrote:“Outside the United Nations, Nerdeen Kiswani, founder of the pro-Palestinian organization Within Our Lifetime, claimed, “The Yemeni people and the Palestinian people are the only free people because we resist by any means necessary.”

“We have no faith in your courts, your institutions, your governments. The United States, the United Kingdom, all puppet Arab Zionist normalizing regimes…We only have faith in the resistance,” she said.”

Nice people, these protesters.


She’s not wrong about the courts and institutions and governments. They never hold the power to account.
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Anonymous wrote:Honestly my assessment is that religion causes more harm than good.

And my position is that Hamas on20/7 committed horrific acts. But the IDF has more retaliated.


Yes, they retaliated against Hamas. And why wouldn't they? It seems bizarre that some of the posters here are angry or bewildered, or think it's somehow unfair that Israel retaliated. What did they THINK would happen? And there are some who say "oh but there should have been negotiation" - like sure, Israel is going to walk up behind a crazed Hamas fighter as he's swinging a machete at a family and gently tap him on his blood soaked shoulder and say "um, guys, can we talk about this?" Please. Some of the posters here are either too wrapped up in their own myopic, one-sided BS and/or not grounded in reality and it shows.


They retaliated against children, not Hamas. Talk about "one-sided".


Hamas trains children to support and fight for Hamas.

That is on Hamas, not Israel.


Yes, the "Hamas made me do it" defense when in fact it was Israel's long-term agenda to cleanse the area of non Jews.


You are absolutely disgusting.

Israel has no interest in ‘cleansing’ the area of non Jews.

They have an interest in protecting their people from the genocide that the Palestinians are actively committing against them. Protect their women from rape, torture, and murder at the hands of the monstrous Palestinian government. Protect their lovely children from kidnapping at the hands of Hamas. Yes, they are morally correct. They are protecting their country, a country personally granted to them by God and which has existed since before 1,000 BCE from the Palestinians who are outside ursupers trying to invade and steal Israeli land.


This is comedy gold.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honestly my assessment is that religion causes more harm than good.

And my position is that Hamas on20/7 committed horrific acts. But the IDF has more retaliated.


Yes, they retaliated against Hamas. And why wouldn't they? It seems bizarre that some of the posters here are angry or bewildered, or think it's somehow unfair that Israel retaliated. What did they THINK would happen? And there are some who say "oh but there should have been negotiation" - like sure, Israel is going to walk up behind a crazed Hamas fighter as he's swinging a machete at a family and gently tap him on his blood soaked shoulder and say "um, guys, can we talk about this?" Please. Some of the posters here are either too wrapped up in their own myopic, one-sided BS and/or not grounded in reality and it shows.


They retaliated against children, not Hamas. Talk about "one-sided".


Hamas trains children to support and fight for Hamas.

That is on Hamas, not Israel.


Yes, the "Hamas made me do it" defense when in fact it was Israel's long-term agenda to cleanse the area of non Jews.


You are absolutely disgusting.

Israel has no interest in ‘cleansing’ the area of non Jews.

They have an interest in protecting their people from the genocide that the Palestinians are actively committing against them. Protect their women from rape, torture, and murder at the hands of the monstrous Palestinian government. Protect their lovely children from kidnapping at the hands of Hamas. Yes, they are morally correct. They are protecting their country, a country personally granted to them by God and which has existed since before 1,000 BCE from the Palestinians who are outside ursupers trying to invade and steal Israeli land.


Wow this is what the US support when it supports Israel. I can see why it is a better strategy to scream antisemitism vs letting people actually heard what you people believe.
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" They are protecting their country, a country personally granted to them by God and which has existed since before 1,000 BCE from the Palestinians who are outside ursupers trying to invade and steal Israeli land"


Everyone reading this knows that Religious fanatics always claim that they were "personally granted rights by God " And that God is always in their own image- this has nothing to do with humanism or moral decency and it reflects just how morally bankrupt Israel has become
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honestly my assessment is that religion causes more harm than good.

And my position is that Hamas on20/7 committed horrific acts. But the IDF has more retaliated.


Yes, they retaliated against Hamas. And why wouldn't they? It seems bizarre that some of the posters here are angry or bewildered, or think it's somehow unfair that Israel retaliated. What did they THINK would happen? And there are some who say "oh but there should have been negotiation" - like sure, Israel is going to walk up behind a crazed Hamas fighter as he's swinging a machete at a family and gently tap him on his blood soaked shoulder and say "um, guys, can we talk about this?" Please. Some of the posters here are either too wrapped up in their own myopic, one-sided BS and/or not grounded in reality and it shows.


They retaliated against children, not Hamas. Talk about "one-sided".


Hamas trains children to support and fight for Hamas.

That is on Hamas, not Israel.


Yes, the "Hamas made me do it" defense when in fact it was Israel's long-term agenda to cleanse the area of non Jews.


You are absolutely disgusting.

Israel has no interest in ‘cleansing’ the area of non Jews.

They have an interest in protecting their people from the genocide that the Palestinians are actively committing against them. Protect their women from rape, torture, and murder at the hands of the monstrous Palestinian government. Protect their lovely children from kidnapping at the hands of Hamas. Yes, they are morally correct. They are protecting their country, a country personally granted to them by God and which has existed since before 1,000 BCE from the Palestinians who are outside ursupers trying to invade and steal Israeli land.


I love how you say “personally”, as if god went to give land to Jews personally, and for everyone else, he sent a vice president.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honestly my assessment is that religion causes more harm than good.

And my position is that Hamas on20/7 committed horrific acts. But the IDF has more retaliated.


Yes, they retaliated against Hamas. And why wouldn't they? It seems bizarre that some of the posters here are angry or bewildered, or think it's somehow unfair that Israel retaliated. What did they THINK would happen? And there are some who say "oh but there should have been negotiation" - like sure, Israel is going to walk up behind a crazed Hamas fighter as he's swinging a machete at a family and gently tap him on his blood soaked shoulder and say "um, guys, can we talk about this?" Please. Some of the posters here are either too wrapped up in their own myopic, one-sided BS and/or not grounded in reality and it shows.


They retaliated against children, not Hamas. Talk about "one-sided".


Hamas trains children to support and fight for Hamas.

That is on Hamas, not Israel.


Yes, the "Hamas made me do it" defense when in fact it was Israel's long-term agenda to cleanse the area of non Jews.


There are plenty of Muslims and Christians who live in Israel. If Israel wanted a cleansing of non-Jews they would have already done it.
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" They are protecting their country, a country personally granted to them by God and which has existed since before 1,000 BCE from the Palestinians who are outside ursupers trying to invade and steal Israeli land"


Everyone reading this knows that Religious fanatics always claim that they were "personally granted rights by God " And that God is always in their own image- this has nothing to do with humanism or moral decency and it reflects just how morally bankrupt Israel has become


There is no such thing as a universal moral value. There are no laws of God, only laws of man. And the current laws of man established Israel as an independent nation state. If you and Hamas don’t like it, you should probably complain to the UN.
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Anonymous wrote:the quoted above

" They are protecting their country, a country personally granted to them by God and which has existed since before 1,000 BCE from the Palestinians who are outside ursupers trying to invade and steal Israeli land"


Everyone reading this knows that Religious fanatics always claim that they were "personally granted rights by God " And that God is always in their own image- this has nothing to do with humanism or moral decency and it reflects just how morally bankrupt Israel has become


There is no such thing as a universal moral value. There are no laws of God, only laws of man. And the current laws of man established Israel as an independent nation state. If you and Hamas don’t like it, you should probably complain to the UN.


These same laws also made it illegal to annex land and build illegal settlements.
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I think this is a mistake. The Houthi's will not stop now. It will only escalate.


The houthis were already escalating.

They are terrorists backed by Iran who hate America. Their only purpose is to wreak havoc.

Want something to worry about? Go onto the DHS website and see how many Yemenis entered the US in the last year or two along with Iranis and people from other countries that hate America. You’ll note they are all young men. Worry about acts of terror on US soil.

You’ll say, “That’s why we shouldn’t have bombed. Why poke the bear?”

Doesn’t matter. Iran is angling for war and will use their chess pieces to provoke until we engage. Swift and brutal response will be necessary.

This is terrible
If Israel could just end its brutal campaign of mightily vengeance, we would have world peace


If Hamas hadn't conducted that horrific terrorist attack against civilians on 10/7 we could have world peace.

And now we have Iran-backed terrorists randomly attacking peaceful civilian ships for no legitimate reason.

Sorry but Israel isn't solely to blame


"Radomly attacking' 'no legitimate reason'? There's nothing random about it, it's in clear response to the daily genocide we are witnessing on our screens everyday. Frankly I'm shocked the muslim world hasn't done more. Thankful but shocked.


The "Muslim world".

I thought this wasn't about religion?

Oops.


Yes, the 'muslim world' ie any muslim nation watching their 'brothers and sisters' being mutilated, killed, starved and tortured day in and day out. What isn't about religion? Everything is about power, religion, greed and ego. No?


But we've been repeatedly assured that this is not about the Jews?

Thanks for your honesty.

Bingo.


The hatred for Israeli actions in the ME is not about the Jewish religion. The jewish religion is a religion of peace. I'm sure there are many anti-semites and racist bigots all over who have it in for both jews and muslims, blacks, asians etc. I'm not sure your angel here. The majority of muslims in muslim counties don't condone the extremist acts of some. The same holds true for jews. Not all jew's consider Israel their country, and certainly most jews I know in the US and around the world outside of Israel do not support Israeli actions against Palestinians. It's nuanced and complex. Black and white it if it makes you feel better. Whatever helps you sleep.


The Jewish religion is not a religion of peace-it’s a religion of monotheism. Theyve always been at war with their neighbors -always and sometimes spar with each other though usually rhetorically .

Same thing with Christianity and Islam. There’s never been a “peaceful” era in history ever.

The question is Palestinians nor any other Arabs never really blocked Jewish immigration to the Middle East or had any problem with the Jews just like they didn’t block the British or Turkish .

The thing that set them off was losing their homes. Unlike Jews and Gulf Arabs and Bedouins , Palestinians weren’t a nomadic group of people. They lived in the same villages for centuries . There’s a key to one of the holy churches in Palestine that goes back centuries and to this day is actually held by the same Palestinian Muslim family that held it back then to be fair/keep peace between the different Christian denominations (Greek Orthodox, Armenian Orthodox, Catholic, Maronite, Assyrian) . This is to say Palestinians were known for being a multifaith and multiethnic society forever and Judaism or Jewish people were not their problem and still aren’t

Zionists had to have planned such an operation long before the Holocaust because you can’t successfully kick a million and some people off their land and nation build without some preplanning and getting another nations permission (UK) long before 1936


- said the person who’s religion has, as a pillar of its faith, “holy war” (jihad).

I’m gonna go with Judaism is a whole lot more peaceful of a religion than Islam.



Yeah, let’s see some evidence of the 5000+ attacks committed by Jewish extremists in the past several decades. Oh wait…
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