FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused on the discussion of 106 students from Rolling Valley/Lewis going to WSHS - the released maps show that area of Rolling Valley south of 286 becoming part of Saratoga and the other part south of 286 for Hunt Valley going to South County. Am I missing other info/maps ?

That is exactly what the maps show, but Sandy Anderson apparently said differently at the the PTSA meeting at WSHS last week. Unclear whether she just didn't understand the maps or if she if going to push for a change to the released maps. She has been a nightmare to try to communicate with through this whole process.

To refuse to grandfather high school students in their neighborhood high school so she can orchestrate a back door dral moving other students into those spots, leaving WSHS just as overcapacity as it was before rezoning is a really awful thing to do.

I really wish she would proactively meet with Hunt Valley families. They have certainly requested that she meets with them, with no luck.

However, she is meeting with Rolling Valley families

Something is not right with this whole scenario.

If Sandy Anderson misspoke at the WSHS PTSA meeting, she needs to send out an email to all WSHS, Hunt Valley and Rolling Valley families explaining her error.

If she doesn't correct herself, in writing to her constituents, then it is safe to assume that she accidentally slipped up and shared what she is working on behind the scenes.

What she says isn’t the law. Rising seniors will be grandfathered at the very least. A lot can change in a year.

And there aren’t a huge number of regions moving to a different high school. There are several members of the school board who support grandfathering for high school, and even boundary adjustments made under the current school board have had liberal grandfathering.

More kids would be moving at one time than has been the case for decades. Do we have enough buses to grandfather kids for even one year?

And the current School Board has not changed any boundaries. Some boundary changes still being phased in were adopted by the prior School Board.

There needs to be liberal grandfathering. Anyone in a high school needs to be able to stay there.

I don’t have kids in that situation, but it’s only fair. These changes do diddly squat to fix any actual problems.

Decades ago, when they did county-wide changes, they planned in advance to limit the volume of changes at any one time to ensure they could grandfather.

No such commitment to grandfather was agreed upon here - Rachna Sizemore-Heizer refused to agree to this limitation in her role as Governance chair when Policy 8130 was updated. If you read the language carefully they don’t even guarantee that rising seniors will be grandfathered. It is at the school board’s discretion and transportation may not even be provided.

High school seniors should be grandfathered but I agree that they should find their own transportation if they choose that option.

All high school kids should be grandfathered. Sandy sucks for not supporting this.

If all high schoolers are grandfathered, it's not much of a boundary change now is it? Only seniors should be grandfathered

Not according to research that tracked children who moved in high school. It is detrimental academically, socially and for mental health.
A good school system is able to take care of maps and redistricting while ensuring a good, stable education for the children and families it is serving. Otherwise, the school system loses value.

A boundary change shouldn’t take precedence over the needs of kids.

Please share your research links supporting this.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused on the discussion of 106 students from Rolling Valley/Lewis going to WSHS - the released maps show that area of Rolling Valley south of 286 becoming part of Saratoga and the other part south of 286 for Hunt Valley going to South County. Am I missing other info/maps ?

That is exactly what the maps show, but Sandy Anderson apparently said differently at the the PTSA meeting at WSHS last week. Unclear whether she just didn't understand the maps or if she if going to push for a change to the released maps. She has been a nightmare to try to communicate with through this whole process.

To refuse to grandfather high school students in their neighborhood high school so she can orchestrate a back door dral moving other students into those spots, leaving WSHS just as overcapacity as it was before rezoning is a really awful thing to do.

I really wish she would proactively meet with Hunt Valley families. They have certainly requested that she meets with them, with no luck.

However, she is meeting with Rolling Valley families

Something is not right with this whole scenario.

If Sandy Anderson misspoke at the WSHS PTSA meeting, she needs to send out an email to all WSHS, Hunt Valley and Rolling Valley families explaining her error.

If she doesn't correct herself, in writing to her constituents, then it is safe to assume that she accidentally slipped up and shared what she is working on behind the scenes.

What she says isn’t the law. Rising seniors will be grandfathered at the very least. A lot can change in a year.

And there aren’t a huge number of regions moving to a different high school. There are several members of the school board who support grandfathering for high school, and even boundary adjustments made under the current school board have had liberal grandfathering.

More kids would be moving at one time than has been the case for decades. Do we have enough buses to grandfather kids for even one year?

And the current School Board has not changed any boundaries. Some boundary changes still being phased in were adopted by the prior School Board.

There needs to be liberal grandfathering. Anyone in a high school needs to be able to stay there.

I don’t have kids in that situation, but it’s only fair. These changes do diddly squat to fix any actual problems.

Decades ago, when they did county-wide changes, they planned in advance to limit the volume of changes at any one time to ensure they could grandfather.

No such commitment to grandfather was agreed upon here - Rachna Sizemore-Heizer refused to agree to this limitation in her role as Governance chair when Policy 8130 was updated. If you read the language carefully they don’t even guarantee that rising seniors will be grandfathered. It is at the school board’s discretion and transportation may not even be provided.

High school seniors should be grandfathered but I agree that they should find their own transportation if they choose that option.

All high school kids should be grandfathered. Sandy sucks for not supporting this.

If all high schoolers are grandfathered, it's not much of a boundary change now is it? Only seniors should be grandfathered

There’s no need for most of these changes and you’re a horrible person to be so indifferent to forcing kids already in middle or high school to move.

Your opinion isn't fact. And now we're trying to the grandfathering down to middle school? That is ridiculous.

That's been standard practice in FCPS for a long time, but I guess you are so eager to defend whatever this incompetent School Board does that you'll pretend otherwise.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused on the discussion of 106 students from Rolling Valley/Lewis going to WSHS - the released maps show that area of Rolling Valley south of 286 becoming part of Saratoga and the other part south of 286 for Hunt Valley going to South County. Am I missing other info/maps ?

That is exactly what the maps show, but Sandy Anderson apparently said differently at the the PTSA meeting at WSHS last week. Unclear whether she just didn't understand the maps or if she if going to push for a change to the released maps. She has been a nightmare to try to communicate with through this whole process.

To refuse to grandfather high school students in their neighborhood high school so she can orchestrate a back door dral moving other students into those spots, leaving WSHS just as overcapacity as it was before rezoning is a really awful thing to do.

I really wish she would proactively meet with Hunt Valley families. They have certainly requested that she meets with them, with no luck.

However, she is meeting with Rolling Valley families

Something is not right with this whole scenario.

If Sandy Anderson misspoke at the WSHS PTSA meeting, she needs to send out an email to all WSHS, Hunt Valley and Rolling Valley families explaining her error.

If she doesn't correct herself, in writing to her constituents, then it is safe to assume that she accidentally slipped up and shared what she is working on behind the scenes.

What she says isn’t the law. Rising seniors will be grandfathered at the very least. A lot can change in a year.

And there aren’t a huge number of regions moving to a different high school. There are several members of the school board who support grandfathering for high school, and even boundary adjustments made under the current school board have had liberal grandfathering.

More kids would be moving at one time than has been the case for decades. Do we have enough buses to grandfather kids for even one year?

And the current School Board has not changed any boundaries. Some boundary changes still being phased in were adopted by the prior School Board.

There needs to be liberal grandfathering. Anyone in a high school needs to be able to stay there.

I don’t have kids in that situation, but it’s only fair. These changes do diddly squat to fix any actual problems.

Decades ago, when they did county-wide changes, they planned in advance to limit the volume of changes at any one time to ensure they could grandfather.

No such commitment to grandfather was agreed upon here - Rachna Sizemore-Heizer refused to agree to this limitation in her role as Governance chair when Policy 8130 was updated. If you read the language carefully they don’t even guarantee that rising seniors will be grandfathered. It is at the school board’s discretion and transportation may not even be provided.

High school seniors should be grandfathered but I agree that they should find their own transportation if they choose that option.

All high school kids should be grandfathered. Sandy sucks for not supporting this.

If all high schoolers are grandfathered, it's not much of a boundary change now is it? Only seniors should be grandfathered

All high school students should be grandfathered

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused on the discussion of 106 students from Rolling Valley/Lewis going to WSHS - the released maps show that area of Rolling Valley south of 286 becoming part of Saratoga and the other part south of 286 for Hunt Valley going to South County. Am I missing other info/maps ?

That is exactly what the maps show, but Sandy Anderson apparently said differently at the the PTSA meeting at WSHS last week. Unclear whether she just didn't understand the maps or if she if going to push for a change to the released maps. She has been a nightmare to try to communicate with through this whole process.

To refuse to grandfather high school students in their neighborhood high school so she can orchestrate a back door dral moving other students into those spots, leaving WSHS just as overcapacity as it was before rezoning is a really awful thing to do.

I really wish she would proactively meet with Hunt Valley families. They have certainly requested that she meets with them, with no luck.

However, she is meeting with Rolling Valley families

Something is not right with this whole scenario.

If Sandy Anderson misspoke at the WSHS PTSA meeting, she needs to send out an email to all WSHS, Hunt Valley and Rolling Valley families explaining her error.

If she doesn't correct herself, in writing to her constituents, then it is safe to assume that she accidentally slipped up and shared what she is working on behind the scenes.

What she says isn’t the law. Rising seniors will be grandfathered at the very least. A lot can change in a year.

And there aren’t a huge number of regions moving to a different high school. There are several members of the school board who support grandfathering for high school, and even boundary adjustments made under the current school board have had liberal grandfathering.

More kids would be moving at one time than has been the case for decades. Do we have enough buses to grandfather kids for even one year?

And the current School Board has not changed any boundaries. Some boundary changes still being phased in were adopted by the prior School Board.

There needs to be liberal grandfathering. Anyone in a high school needs to be able to stay there.

I don’t have kids in that situation, but it’s only fair. These changes do diddly squat to fix any actual problems.

Decades ago, when they did county-wide changes, they planned in advance to limit the volume of changes at any one time to ensure they could grandfather.

No such commitment to grandfather was agreed upon here - Rachna Sizemore-Heizer refused to agree to this limitation in her role as Governance chair when Policy 8130 was updated. If you read the language carefully they don’t even guarantee that rising seniors will be grandfathered. It is at the school board’s discretion and transportation may not even be provided.

High school seniors should be grandfathered but I agree that they should find their own transportation if they choose that option.

All high school kids should be grandfathered. Sandy sucks for not supporting this.

If all high schoolers are grandfathered, it's not much of a boundary change now is it? Only seniors should be grandfathered

There’s no need for most of these changes and you’re a horrible person to be so indifferent to forcing kids already in middle or high school to move.

Your opinion isn't fact. And now we're trying to the grandfathering down to middle school? That is ridiculous.

Actually, middle school is just 2 years.

Middle schools should be grandfathered too

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I think sophomores, juniors, seniors should be grandfathered but should have to provide their own transportation. I think middle school is ok without grandfathering. I think 6th graders should be grandfathered as well. I think parents should have to provide transportation.

Just my opinion.

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What I find really gross is that Rachna Sizemore-Heizer was behind the Governance Committee's refusal to commit to grandfathering when Policy 8130 was revised last year.

She lives in the Lake Braddock district and only cares about that school. And, not surprisingly, the changes affecting Lake Braddock are minimal compared to those about to hit West Springfield and some other schools.

She is tone-deaf when it comes to what matters to anyone else. If her own children were still in school and about to be forced to switch schools mid-stream, she never would have shut up about how unfair and disruptive it would have been to children like her own who aren't neurotypical. But they've graduated so the hell with everyone else.

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Anonymous wrote:I think sophomores, juniors, seniors should be grandfathered but should have to provide their own transportation. I think middle school is ok without grandfathering. I think 6th graders should be grandfathered as well. I think parents should have to provide transportation.

Just my opinion.

So wealthier kids who either have a car or a parent to drive them can remain at their current schools, but poorer kids without access to a car or driver have to switch?

Sounds very equitable to me.

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Anonymous wrote:I think sophomores, juniors, seniors should be grandfathered but should have to provide their own transportation. I think middle school is ok without grandfathering. I think 6th graders should be grandfathered as well. I think parents should have to provide transportation.

Just my opinion.

So wealthier kids who either have a car or a parent to drive them can remain at their current schools, but poorer kids without access to a car or driver have to switch?

Sounds very equitable to me.

That is how transferring for AP/IB or languages works

Any student who can arrange their own transportation should be grandfathered.

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Anonymous wrote:Between sending out maps that are impossible to read, to scheduling the feedback meetings at schools not affected by rezoning, and refusing to answer specific questions the BRAC committee members have repeatedly asked about specific issues with rezoning, it is clear that FCPS school board and Thru actually do not want feedback from the communities affected by rezoning.

The committee was just for show, which is a terrible disservice to the peope who devoted all their time to help make this process as painless as possible for their neighbors and students across FCPS.

The maps are designed to hide and confuse familes as to what is actually happening with rezoning and who will be affected.

The meetings are scheduled at locations to make it difficult for the affected families to give meaningful feedback. If they cared about getting feedback, FCPS would have scheduled the meetings near the schools being rezoned.

Not even bothering to hold a meeting at West Springfield is such an insult when they are proposing to move so many kids out of the school.

Reid should be fired immediately and this process halted in its tracks.

Is there something preventing you from driving to Lewis for the meeting? The Lewis community will be impacted too. Why not have it there?

Yes, traffic and the insane mixing bowl prevents me from driving to Lewis. I will attend the Robinson meeting.

Good grief. West Springfield to Lewis is either straight down Old Keene Mill to a left on Frontier or the Parkway to a left on Frontier. Traffic actually flows pretty well. Especially for an evening meeting going east.

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Anonymous wrote:I think sophomores, juniors, seniors should be grandfathered but should have to provide their own transportation. I think middle school is ok without grandfathering. I think 6th graders should be grandfathered as well. I think parents should have to provide transportation.

Just my opinion.

So wealthier kids who either have a car or a parent to drive them can remain at their current schools, but poorer kids without access to a car or driver have to switch?

Sounds very equitable to me.

That is how transferring for AP/IB or languages works

Any student who can arrange their own transportation should be grandfathered.

Any rising 8th grader or any current high schooler should be grandfathered with transportation provided, or not grandfathered at all.

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Anonymous wrote:I think sophomores, juniors, seniors should be grandfathered but should have to provide their own transportation. I think middle school is ok without grandfathering. I think 6th graders should be grandfathered as well. I think parents should have to provide transportation.

Just my opinion.

So wealthier kids who either have a car or a parent to drive them can remain at their current schools, but poorer kids without access to a car or driver have to switch?

Sounds very equitable to me.

That is how transferring for AP/IB or languages works

Any student who can arrange their own transportation should be grandfathered.

Any rising 8th grader or any current high schooler should be grandfathered with transportation provided, or not grandfathered at all.

Then the same should go for AP/IB and languages if we’re going to focus on equity. Either parents can provide transportation for pupil placements or they can’t. If county provided transportation for grandfathering is going to be the sticking point, get rid of pupil placements all together since only families with means can take advantage of those as well.

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Why are we shifting any high school kids? Seems ridiculous.
It seems to me that the only real issues are with elementary schools. Those boundaries might need to be adjusted for high school, but otherwise, this whole process seems very expensive and unnecessary.

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Anonymous wrote:I think sophomores, juniors, seniors should be grandfathered but should have to provide their own transportation. I think middle school is ok without grandfathering. I think 6th graders should be grandfathered as well. I think parents should have to provide transportation.

Just my opinion.

So wealthier kids who either have a car or a parent to drive them can remain at their current schools, but poorer kids without access to a car or driver have to switch?

Sounds very equitable to me.

That is how transferring for AP/IB or languages works

Any student who can arrange their own transportation should be grandfathered.

Any rising 8th grader or any current high schooler should be grandfathered with transportation provided, or not grandfathered at all.

Then the same should go for AP/IB and languages if we’re going to focus on equity. Either parents can provide transportation for pupil placements or they can’t. If county provided transportation for grandfathering is going to be the sticking point, get rid of pupil placements all together since only families with means can take advantage of those as well.

Fine, then don't grandfather and just continue to allow for pupil placements. Because grandfathering without transportion is the least equitable of the scenarios.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are we shifting any high school kids? Seems ridiculous.
It seems to me that the only real issues are with elementary schools. Those boundaries might need to be adjusted for high school, but otherwise, this whole process seems very expensive and unnecessary.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused on the discussion of 106 students from Rolling Valley/Lewis going to WSHS - the released maps show that area of Rolling Valley south of 286 becoming part of Saratoga and the other part south of 286 for Hunt Valley going to South County. Am I missing other info/maps ?

That is exactly what the maps show, but Sandy Anderson apparently said differently at the the PTSA meeting at WSHS last week. Unclear whether she just didn't understand the maps or if she if going to push for a change to the released maps. She has been a nightmare to try to communicate with through this whole process.

To refuse to grandfather high school students in their neighborhood high school so she can orchestrate a back door dral moving other students into those spots, leaving WSHS just as overcapacity as it was before rezoning is a really awful thing to do.

I really wish she would proactively meet with Hunt Valley families. They have certainly requested that she meets with them, with no luck.

However, she is meeting with Rolling Valley families

Something is not right with this whole scenario.

If Sandy Anderson misspoke at the WSHS PTSA meeting, she needs to send out an email to all WSHS, Hunt Valley and Rolling Valley families explaining her error.

If she doesn't correct herself, in writing to her constituents, then it is safe to assume that she accidentally slipped up and shared what she is working on behind the scenes.

What she says isn’t the law. Rising seniors will be grandfathered at the very least. A lot can change in a year.

And there aren’t a huge number of regions moving to a different high school. There are several members of the school board who support grandfathering for high school, and even boundary adjustments made under the current school board have had liberal grandfathering.

More kids would be moving at one time than has been the case for decades. Do we have enough buses to grandfather kids for even one year?

And the current School Board has not changed any boundaries. Some boundary changes still being phased in were adopted by the prior School Board.

There needs to be liberal grandfathering. Anyone in a high school needs to be able to stay there.

I don’t have kids in that situation, but it’s only fair. These changes do diddly squat to fix any actual problems.

Decades ago, when they did county-wide changes, they planned in advance to limit the volume of changes at any one time to ensure they could grandfather.

No such commitment to grandfather was agreed upon here - Rachna Sizemore-Heizer refused to agree to this limitation in her role as Governance chair when Policy 8130 was updated. If you read the language carefully they don’t even guarantee that rising seniors will be grandfathered. It is at the school board’s discretion and transportation may not even be provided.

High school seniors should be grandfathered but I agree that they should find their own transportation if they choose that option.

All high school kids should be grandfathered. Sandy sucks for not supporting this.

If all high schoolers are grandfathered, it's not much of a boundary change now is it? Only seniors should be grandfathered

There’s no need for most of these changes and you’re a horrible person to be so indifferent to forcing kids already in middle or high school to move.

Your opinion isn't fact. And now we're trying to the grandfathering down to middle school? That is ridiculous.

DP. Is it ridiculous, or is an unnecessary comprehensive boundary review for no urgent reason ridiculous?

I vote for the latter.