FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Anonymous wrote:Is there any discussion or acknowledgment about student transfers for language and IB?

Will students currently at Langley for Russian be allowed to continue?

They acknowledged that transfers exist, but they aren’t tracking it in their adjustments. They’re using September enrollment as their baseline, which has transfers baked in, but then they’re using SPAs to balance which doesn’t account for additional student movement.
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but then they’re using SPAs to balance which doesn’t account for additional student movement.


Where can we find SPAs?
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but then they’re using SPAs to balance which doesn’t account for additional student movement.


Where can we find SPAs?


Read upthread. Was discussed earlier this week.
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Anonymous wrote:Between sending out maps that are impossible to read, to scheduling the feedback meetings at schools not affected by rezoning, and refusing to answer specific questions the BRAC committee members have repeatedly asked about specific issues with rezoning, it is clear that FCPS school board and Thru actually do not want feedback from the communities affected by rezoning.

The committee was just for show, which is a terrible disservice to the peope who devoted all their time to help make this process as painless as possible for their neighbors and students across FCPS.

The maps are designed to hide and confuse familes as to what is actually happening with rezoning and who will be affected.

The meetings are scheduled at locations to make it difficult for the affected families to give meaningful feedback. If they cared about getting feedback, FCPS would have scheduled the meetings near the schools being rezoned.



Not even bothering to hold a meeting at West Springfield is such an insult when they are proposing to move so many kids out of the school.

Reid should be fired immediately and this process halted in its tracks.


Is there something preventing you from driving to Lewis for the meeting? The Lewis community will be impacted too. Why not have it there?


Yes, traffic and the insane mixing bowl prevents me from driving to Lewis. I will attend the Robinson meeting.
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Anonymous wrote:Between sending out maps that are impossible to read, to scheduling the feedback meetings at schools not affected by rezoning, and refusing to answer specific questions the BRAC committee members have repeatedly asked about specific issues with rezoning, it is clear that FCPS school board and Thru actually do not want feedback from the communities affected by rezoning.

The committee was just for show, which is a terrible disservice to the peope who devoted all their time to help make this process as painless as possible for their neighbors and students across FCPS.

The maps are designed to hide and confuse familes as to what is actually happening with rezoning and who will be affected.

The meetings are scheduled at locations to make it difficult for the affected families to give meaningful feedback. If they cared about getting feedback, FCPS would have scheduled the meetings near the schools being rezoned.



Not even bothering to hold a meeting at West Springfield is such an insult when they are proposing to move so many kids out of the school.

Reid should be fired immediately and this process halted in its tracks.


Is there something preventing you from driving to Lewis for the meeting? The Lewis community will be impacted too. Why not have it there?


No changes are proposed to Lewis’s boundaries.


Yes but there will be changes to their school.


No, there won't.

Lewis is not affected by this boundary process at all.

Your region meeting should be at Annandale or Edison.


A potential influx of hundreds of new kids will impact the Lewis community.


Who is getting rezoned to Lewis?

The Rolling Valley neighborhood is already zoned for Lewis.


Not if Sandy Anderson has her way. At the WSHS PTA meeting earlier this week she suggested those kids would get redistricted to WSHS. Which made all of the parents of Hunt Valley kids who would get kicked out of WSHS pretty upset.


It will be infuriating if Anderson kicks her Hunt Valley families out of WSHS to mive the Lewis zoned Rolling Valley families into their spots.


I approve of this decision.

Sorry HVES, you are going to South County. Fixing a wrong from decades ago. Be happy you aren’t getting Saratoga and Lewis.


The Gambrill Road neighborhoods have been districted to WSHS since they were built in the 80s. Other than for a few years when they were made into a split feeder and sent to Lee HS. And that got fixed 20 years ago when South County opened. I don't see how creating a new split feeder at Hunt Valley for 93 kids meets the criteria laid out by the school board for this exercise.


If what Sandy Anderson stated at the WSHS PTA meeting is true, that she won't support grandfathering WSHS students from the Hunt Valley neighborhood, because FCPS intends to fill those spots with Rolling Valley Key/Lewis students, then FCPS is disrupting all those Hunt Valley families for a change of only 70 spots.

178 WSHS students are set to rezone to South County, with NO GRANDFATHERING according to Sandy Anderson at the WSHS PTA meeting on 5/7 so that 106 Lewis students from Rolling Valley can take their spots


178 WSHS students

Replaced by:

106 Lewis Students

Means a drop in WSHS enrollment by only 72 students and NO GRANDFATHERING for WSHS students

If Sandy Anderson misspoke, she needs to schedule a meeting at Hunt Valley next week, to clear this up for the WSHS families pegged for rezoning.


I'm sorry that, at a minimum, Sandy Anderson can't express herself clearly, but (1) she really shouldn't be talking about boundary changes other than the ones in the three Thru Consulting presentations right now; and (2) on what planet does FCPS pull more kids out of Lewis without at least replacing them with kids from elsewhere? You're describing a scenario where part of Hunt Valley switches from West Springfield to South County, part of Rolling Valley switches from Lewis to West Springfield, and under-enrolled Lewis has even fewer kids. It makes no sense.
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Anonymous wrote:Between sending out maps that are impossible to read, to scheduling the feedback meetings at schools not affected by rezoning, and refusing to answer specific questions the BRAC committee members have repeatedly asked about specific issues with rezoning, it is clear that FCPS school board and Thru actually do not want feedback from the communities affected by rezoning.

The committee was just for show, which is a terrible disservice to the peope who devoted all their time to help make this process as painless as possible for their neighbors and students across FCPS.

The maps are designed to hide and confuse familes as to what is actually happening with rezoning and who will be affected.

The meetings are scheduled at locations to make it difficult for the affected families to give meaningful feedback. If they cared about getting feedback, FCPS would have scheduled the meetings near the schools being rezoned.



Not even bothering to hold a meeting at West Springfield is such an insult when they are proposing to move so many kids out of the school.

Reid should be fired immediately and this process halted in its tracks.


Is there something preventing you from driving to Lewis for the meeting? The Lewis community will be impacted too. Why not have it there?


No changes are proposed to Lewis’s boundaries.


Yes but there will be changes to their school.


No, there won't.

Lewis is not affected by this boundary process at all.

Your region meeting should be at Annandale or Edison.


A potential influx of hundreds of new kids will impact the Lewis community.


Who is getting rezoned to Lewis?

The Rolling Valley neighborhood is already zoned for Lewis.


Not if Sandy Anderson has her way. At the WSHS PTA meeting earlier this week she suggested those kids would get redistricted to WSHS. Which made all of the parents of Hunt Valley kids who would get kicked out of WSHS pretty upset.


It will be infuriating if Anderson kicks her Hunt Valley families out of WSHS to mive the Lewis zoned Rolling Valley families into their spots.


I approve of this decision.

Sorry HVES, you are going to South County. Fixing a wrong from decades ago. Be happy you aren’t getting Saratoga and Lewis.


The Gambrill Road neighborhoods have been districted to WSHS since they were built in the 80s. Other than for a few years when they were made into a split feeder and sent to Lee HS. And that got fixed 20 years ago when South County opened. I don't see how creating a new split feeder at Hunt Valley for 93 kids meets the criteria laid out by the school board for this exercise.


If what Sandy Anderson stated at the WSHS PTA meeting is true, that she won't support grandfathering WSHS students from the Hunt Valley neighborhood, because FCPS intends to fill those spots with Rolling Valley Key/Lewis students, then FCPS is disrupting all those Hunt Valley families for a change of only 70 spots.

178 WSHS students are set to rezone to South County, with NO GRANDFATHERING according to Sandy Anderson at the WSHS PTA meeting on 5/7 so that 106 Lewis students from Rolling Valley can take their spots


178 WSHS students

Replaced by:

106 Lewis Students

Means a drop in WSHS enrollment by only 72 students and NO GRANDFATHERING for WSHS students

If Sandy Anderson misspoke, she needs to schedule a meeting at Hunt Valley next week, to clear this up for the WSHS families pegged for rezoning.


I'm sorry that, at a minimum, Sandy Anderson can't express herself clearly, but (1) she really shouldn't be talking about boundary changes other than the ones in the three Thru Consulting presentations right now; and (2) on what planet does FCPS pull more kids out of Lewis without at least replacing them with kids from elsewhere? You're describing a scenario where part of Hunt Valley switches from West Springfield to South County, part of Rolling Valley switches from Lewis to West Springfield, and under-enrolled Lewis has even fewer kids. It makes no sense.


Sandy looks out for her Alma mater and her kids’ school pyramid. Everything else is collateral damage.
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Anonymous wrote:Is there any discussion or acknowledgment about student transfers for language and IB?

Will students currently at Langley for Russian be allowed to continue?


Yes, unless you hear otherwise.

The proposed move of the Spring Hill island from McLean to Langley would add 201 kids to Langley this year and put Langley at 102% capacity, but that figure includes the kids pupil placing to Langley this year and 102% capacity is no big deal.

At some point in the future, Langley could get more overcrowded. They were already projecting a slight increase in enrollment in a few years, even before the Spring Hill move, and the number of kids from that island (it's an island at McLean; it won't be an island at Langley) could increase with additional development in Tysons or more people moving into those apartments just to send their kids to Langley. If the enrollment started pushing above 105% they might start limiting pupil placements like McLean did years ago. But it could also end up lower with all the Trump administration is doing to drive people out of the DC area.

I personally would not worry about it for the next few years.
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Anonymous wrote:Between sending out maps that are impossible to read, to scheduling the feedback meetings at schools not affected by rezoning, and refusing to answer specific questions the BRAC committee members have repeatedly asked about specific issues with rezoning, it is clear that FCPS school board and Thru actually do not want feedback from the communities affected by rezoning.

The committee was just for show, which is a terrible disservice to the peope who devoted all their time to help make this process as painless as possible for their neighbors and students across FCPS.

The maps are designed to hide and confuse familes as to what is actually happening with rezoning and who will be affected.

The meetings are scheduled at locations to make it difficult for the affected families to give meaningful feedback. If they cared about getting feedback, FCPS would have scheduled the meetings near the schools being rezoned.



Not even bothering to hold a meeting at West Springfield is such an insult when they are proposing to move so many kids out of the school.

Reid should be fired immediately and this process halted in its tracks.


Is there something preventing you from driving to Lewis for the meeting? The Lewis community will be impacted too. Why not have it there?


No changes are proposed to Lewis’s boundaries.


Yes but there will be changes to their school.


No, there won't.

Lewis is not affected by this boundary process at all.

Your region meeting should be at Annandale or Edison.


A potential influx of hundreds of new kids will impact the Lewis community.


Who is getting rezoned to Lewis?

The Rolling Valley neighborhood is already zoned for Lewis.


Not if Sandy Anderson has her way. At the WSHS PTA meeting earlier this week she suggested those kids would get redistricted to WSHS. Which made all of the parents of Hunt Valley kids who would get kicked out of WSHS pretty upset.


It will be infuriating if Anderson kicks her Hunt Valley families out of WSHS to mive the Lewis zoned Rolling Valley families into their spots.


I approve of this decision.

Sorry HVES, you are going to South County. Fixing a wrong from decades ago. Be happy you aren’t getting Saratoga and Lewis.


The Gambrill Road neighborhoods have been districted to WSHS since they were built in the 80s. Other than for a few years when they were made into a split feeder and sent to Lee HS. And that got fixed 20 years ago when South County opened. I don't see how creating a new split feeder at Hunt Valley for 93 kids meets the criteria laid out by the school board for this exercise.


If what Sandy Anderson stated at the WSHS PTA meeting is true, that she won't support grandfathering WSHS students from the Hunt Valley neighborhood, because FCPS intends to fill those spots with Rolling Valley Key/Lewis students, then FCPS is disrupting all those Hunt Valley families for a change of only 70 spots.

178 WSHS students are set to rezone to South County, with NO GRANDFATHERING according to Sandy Anderson at the WSHS PTA meeting on 5/7 so that 106 Lewis students from Rolling Valley can take their spots


178 WSHS students

Replaced by:

106 Lewis Students

Means a drop in WSHS enrollment by only 72 students and NO GRANDFATHERING for WSHS students

If Sandy Anderson misspoke, she needs to schedule a meeting at Hunt Valley next week, to clear this up for the WSHS families pegged for rezoning.


I'm sorry that, at a minimum, Sandy Anderson can't express herself clearly, but (1) she really shouldn't be talking about boundary changes other than the ones in the three Thru Consulting presentations right now; and (2) on what planet does FCPS pull more kids out of Lewis without at least replacing them with kids from elsewhere? You're describing a scenario where part of Hunt Valley switches from West Springfield to South County, part of Rolling Valley switches from Lewis to West Springfield, and under-enrolled Lewis has even fewer kids. It makes no sense.


Sandy looks out for her Alma mater and her kids’ school pyramid. Everything else is collateral damage.


Well, she can't unilaterally move kids from West Springfield to South County or from Lewis to West Springfield. It requires a vote of the majority of the school board.

Typically, other School Board members defer to a member with respect to matters in the member's district, but not always. Janie Strauss wanted kids moved out of McLean to Langley when it was overcrowded back in 2018 and the other School Board members wouldn't go along. It wasn't until 2021 that kids finally got moved. Also, in 2013, FCPS staff recommended eliminating a Woodson attendance island in the middle of the Robinson district in Fairfax Station and move it to Robinson. Both Megan McLaughlin (Braddock) and Elizabeth Schultz (Springfield) wanted to preserve the island, but they got overruled by other School Board members and now that area goes to Robinson.
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Anonymous wrote:My question:

Will School Board jump in with their marking pen and make dramatic changes after paying a contractor for what two or three already paid could have figured out on their own?

Some of it made sense, I guess, but much of it does not. No sense of neighborhoods where I live.


No. Thru was their scapegoat and they would have pushed them to make more dramatic maps for Thru to take the blame.

For the nonsense moves, I would imagine they’ll be logically challenged and reversed. FCPS really backed down from their “nuclear” approach which is somewhat commendable though I feel for any family still being moved around.
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Anonymous wrote:Between sending out maps that are impossible to read, to scheduling the feedback meetings at schools not affected by rezoning, and refusing to answer specific questions the BRAC committee members have repeatedly asked about specific issues with rezoning, it is clear that FCPS school board and Thru actually do not want feedback from the communities affected by rezoning.

The committee was just for show, which is a terrible disservice to the peope who devoted all their time to help make this process as painless as possible for their neighbors and students across FCPS.

The maps are designed to hide and confuse familes as to what is actually happening with rezoning and who will be affected.

The meetings are scheduled at locations to make it difficult for the affected families to give meaningful feedback. If they cared about getting feedback, FCPS would have scheduled the meetings near the schools being rezoned.



Not even bothering to hold a meeting at West Springfield is such an insult when they are proposing to move so many kids out of the school.

Reid should be fired immediately and this process halted in its tracks.


Is there something preventing you from driving to Lewis for the meeting? The Lewis community will be impacted too. Why not have it there?


Yes, traffic and the insane mixing bowl prevents me from driving to Lewis. I will attend the Robinson meeting.


Good grief. West Springfield to Lewis is either straight down Old Keene Mill to a left on Frontier or the Parkway to a left on Frontier. Traffic actually flows pretty well. Especially for an evening meeting going east.
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Will more maps be released prior to the community meeting at oakton hs?
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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused on the discussion of 106 students from Rolling Valley/Lewis going to WSHS - the released maps show that area of Rolling Valley south of 286 becoming part of Saratoga and the other part south of 286 for Hunt Valley going to South County. Am I missing other info/maps ?


That is exactly what the maps show, but Sandy Anderson apparently said differently at the the PTSA meeting at WSHS last week. Unclear whether she just didn't understand the maps or if she if going to push for a change to the released maps. She has been a nightmare to try to communicate with through this whole process.


To refuse to grandfather high school students in their neighborhood high school so she can orchestrate a back door dral moving other students into those spots, leaving WSHS just as overcapacity as it was before rezoning is a really awful thing to do.

I really wish she would proactively meet with Hunt Valley families. They have certainly requested that she meets with them, with no luck.

However, she is meeting with Rolling Valley families

Something is not right with this whole scenario.

If Sandy Anderson misspoke at the WSHS PTSA meeting, she needs to send out an email to all WSHS, Hunt Valley and Rolling Valley families explaining her error.

If she doesn't correct herself, in writing to her constituents, then it is safe to assume that she accidentally slipped up and shared what she is working on behind the scenes.


What she says isn’t the law. Rising seniors will be grandfathered at the very least. A lot can change in a year.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused on the discussion of 106 students from Rolling Valley/Lewis going to WSHS - the released maps show that area of Rolling Valley south of 286 becoming part of Saratoga and the other part south of 286 for Hunt Valley going to South County. Am I missing other info/maps ?


That is exactly what the maps show, but Sandy Anderson apparently said differently at the the PTSA meeting at WSHS last week. Unclear whether she just didn't understand the maps or if she if going to push for a change to the released maps. She has been a nightmare to try to communicate with through this whole process.


To refuse to grandfather high school students in their neighborhood high school so she can orchestrate a back door dral moving other students into those spots, leaving WSHS just as overcapacity as it was before rezoning is a really awful thing to do.

I really wish she would proactively meet with Hunt Valley families. They have certainly requested that she meets with them, with no luck.

However, she is meeting with Rolling Valley families

Something is not right with this whole scenario.

If Sandy Anderson misspoke at the WSHS PTSA meeting, she needs to send out an email to all WSHS, Hunt Valley and Rolling Valley families explaining her error.

If she doesn't correct herself, in writing to her constituents, then it is safe to assume that she accidentally slipped up and shared what she is working on behind the scenes.


What she says isn’t the law. Rising seniors will be grandfathered at the very least. A lot can change in a year.

And there aren’t a huge number of regions moving to a different high school. There are several members of the school board who support grandfathering for high school, and even boundary adjustments made under the current school board have had liberal grandfathering.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused on the discussion of 106 students from Rolling Valley/Lewis going to WSHS - the released maps show that area of Rolling Valley south of 286 becoming part of Saratoga and the other part south of 286 for Hunt Valley going to South County. Am I missing other info/maps ?


That is exactly what the maps show, but Sandy Anderson apparently said differently at the the PTSA meeting at WSHS last week. Unclear whether she just didn't understand the maps or if she if going to push for a change to the released maps. She has been a nightmare to try to communicate with through this whole process.


To refuse to grandfather high school students in their neighborhood high school so she can orchestrate a back door dral moving other students into those spots, leaving WSHS just as overcapacity as it was before rezoning is a really awful thing to do.

I really wish she would proactively meet with Hunt Valley families. They have certainly requested that she meets with them, with no luck.

However, she is meeting with Rolling Valley families

Something is not right with this whole scenario.

If Sandy Anderson misspoke at the WSHS PTSA meeting, she needs to send out an email to all WSHS, Hunt Valley and Rolling Valley families explaining her error.

If she doesn't correct herself, in writing to her constituents, then it is safe to assume that she accidentally slipped up and shared what she is working on behind the scenes.


What she says isn’t the law. Rising seniors will be grandfathered at the very least. A lot can change in a year.

And there aren’t a huge number of regions moving to a different high school. There are several members of the school board who support grandfathering for high school, and even boundary adjustments made under the current school board have had liberal grandfathering.


More kids would be moving at one time than has been the case for decades. Do we have enough buses to grandfather kids for even one year?

And the current School Board has not changed any boundaries. Some boundary changes still being phased in were adopted by the prior School Board.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused on the discussion of 106 students from Rolling Valley/Lewis going to WSHS - the released maps show that area of Rolling Valley south of 286 becoming part of Saratoga and the other part south of 286 for Hunt Valley going to South County. Am I missing other info/maps ?


That is exactly what the maps show, but Sandy Anderson apparently said differently at the the PTSA meeting at WSHS last week. Unclear whether she just didn't understand the maps or if she if going to push for a change to the released maps. She has been a nightmare to try to communicate with through this whole process.


To refuse to grandfather high school students in their neighborhood high school so she can orchestrate a back door dral moving other students into those spots, leaving WSHS just as overcapacity as it was before rezoning is a really awful thing to do.

I really wish she would proactively meet with Hunt Valley families. They have certainly requested that she meets with them, with no luck.

However, she is meeting with Rolling Valley families

Something is not right with this whole scenario.

If Sandy Anderson misspoke at the WSHS PTSA meeting, she needs to send out an email to all WSHS, Hunt Valley and Rolling Valley families explaining her error.

If she doesn't correct herself, in writing to her constituents, then it is safe to assume that she accidentally slipped up and shared what she is working on behind the scenes.


What she says isn’t the law. Rising seniors will be grandfathered at the very least. A lot can change in a year.

And there aren’t a huge number of regions moving to a different high school. There are several members of the school board who support grandfathering for high school, and even boundary adjustments made under the current school board have had liberal grandfathering.


More kids would be moving at one time than has been the case for decades. Do we have enough buses to grandfather kids for even one year?

And the current School Board has not changed any boundaries. Some boundary changes still being phased in were adopted by the prior School Board.


There needs to be liberal grandfathering. Anyone in a high school needs to be able to stay there.

I don’t have kids in that situation, but it’s only fair. These changes do diddly squat to fix any actual problems.
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