What’s the difference between the 3 San Diego colleges?

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Anonymous wrote:None of these are good schools for journalism. You want Northwestern, Missouri-Columbia, Indiana, Ohio University or Columbia.
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+ 10000. First useful post!

There's the Walter Cronkite school of journalism which is part of (school in Arizona, just google, maybe ASU or No. Ariz. U or U of A) My friend's kid goes there
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Anonymous wrote:I remember when UCSD was considered the third best UC school (behind Berkeley and LA), but Irvine and Santa Barbara have really come up in the world. I think a big part of that is San Diego is really provincial (I say this as a person who lived there for years) and is a place where people come for the sun and weather. Most students live off campus in small group homes (more accurately hovels) in places like Ocean Beach since La Jolla is one of the most expensive and closed communities in the US, so there is not much school spirit or community. There are a lot of complaints about a lack of class space causing students to take 6 years to graduate, but some of this is due to students who want to hang out in San Diego.

As others mentioned, San Diego State is a party school and has a more defined school community.

USD is very different (obviously smaller and private). I found that people though well of it in San Diego because a lot of alumni work in the area. I would not go there as a minority student.


Off-topic but how is San Diego provincial (or more provincial than LA or SF)?

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Things have really changed in the past 5-6 years. UC and Cal State admissions are crazy. An unweighted 3.9 and weighted 4.2 (UC cap only allows 8 semesters of honors/AP/dual CC or summer college etc bumps) puts you in the waitlist bucket at mid tier UCs and top CalStates per their data sets. DS was lucky to get into Davis, SDSU, UCSC, UCMerced and waitlisted at UCSD, UCSB and UCI. UC doesn’t allow tests so a 1550 SAT, and excellent teacher recommendations don’t matter. Having an additional a weighted 4.7 above the cap doesn’t matter. Having 60 transferable credits including CC honors courses and all 5s on most rigorous APs doesn’t matter. Holistic may or may not matter. He had really strong ECs but no trauma or hardship. UC waitlists do move so who knows.

He’s looking at UCSD and SDSU now. UCSD has become the desired school for Northern California kids. Not sure why.

He has some high stat friends that are at SDSU now and a bunch of high stat friends who didn’t get in or were waitlisted. Cal States give a sizable bump for regional proximity so you will have local SD students with far lower GPAs than out of region. He’s hoping that there will be enough serious students that he doesn’t feel out of place around the dumb blond party people.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:None of these are good schools for journalism. You want Northwestern, Missouri-Columbia, Indiana, Ohio University or Columbia.
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+ 10000. First useful post!


Syracuse University used to be excellent for journalism.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I remember when UCSD was considered the third best UC school (behind Berkeley and LA), but Irvine and Santa Barbara have really come up in the world. I think a big part of that is San Diego is really provincial (I say this as a person who lived there for years) and is a place where people come for the sun and weather. Most students live off campus in small group homes (more accurately hovels) in places like Ocean Beach since La Jolla is one of the most expensive and closed communities in the US, so there is not much school spirit or community. There are a lot of complaints about a lack of class space causing students to take 6 years to graduate, but some of this is due to students who want to hang out in San Diego.

As others mentioned, San Diego State is a party school and has a more defined school community.

USD is very different (obviously smaller and private). I found that people though well of it in San Diego because a lot of alumni work in the area. I would not go there as a minority student.


Off-topic but how is San Diego provincial (or more provincial than LA or SF)?



DP but it seems like SD is smaller and there is less to do. SF isnt large but there is a lot packed into it. LA - I will just never understand.
Anonymous
SD is actually much bigger city than SF.
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Anonymous wrote:SD is actually much bigger city than SF.


It is but it doesn’t seem that way at all.
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USD is ranked around 100-110. Unless you have some connection to it, it doesn’t seem worth the cost.
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UCSD alumna here. Historically the school has a lot of Jewish professors. One of the reasons the first trimester starts so late is to accommodate Rosh Hashanah. Overall a great school with a well respected degree. Hard to get admitted from out of state. Family member was recently admitted to USC (So Cal) but not UCSD.
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Anonymous wrote:UCSD alumna here. Historically the school has a lot of Jewish professors. One of the reasons the first trimester starts so late is to accommodate Rosh Hashanah. Overall a great school with a well respected degree. Hard to get admitted from out of state. Family member was recently admitted to USC (So Cal) but not UCSD.


Actually, it’s easier now to get admitted out of state than it is in state. You still need great stats but the applicant pool of high stats is smaller.
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If it helps, taking CS aside, if William & Mary was a UC it would probably slot somewhere between UCLA and UCSB. With UCSB being on the same tier as UCSD.

USD is a lovely school, the reputation is very regional to SoCal. The school is heavily populated with smart, wealthy Catholic school kids that ran into bad luck with hard targets such as BC, Davidson, etc. and Bay Area kids who did not want to go to Santa Clara as it was too close to home.

Kids from all three schools hang out at the same, beautiful beach.
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Anonymous wrote:If it helps, taking CS aside, if William & Mary was a UC it would probably slot somewhere between UCLA and UCSB. With UCSB being on the same tier as UCSD.

USD is a lovely school, the reputation is very regional to SoCal. The school is heavily populated with smart, wealthy Catholic school kids that ran into bad luck with hard targets such as BC, Davidson, etc. and Bay Area kids who did not want to go to Santa Clara as it was too close to home.

Kids from all three schools hang out at the same, beautiful beach.


I wouldn’t put William and Mary above the mid tier UCs anymore than I’d rank UVA or UMD anywhere near UCLA or Cal. The UC system is substantially above other state systems. The research opportunities, elite faculty, top ranked students, and programs are unlike any other state systems. The downside is that they are fiercely competitive and it doesn’t stop once you get in. UCs have a steady pipeline of transfer students and do not care if you wash out. First and second year courses can be shockingly huge. Some UCs have curves with quotas which leads to sabotage by fellow students. Finding housing can be a huge struggle at some UCs. The competition for clubs, internships, and programs is intense. If you were top dog at your private school, on the lacrosse team and expect to waltz in claiming a top spot you will quickly sulk back to your overcrowded room and bunk bed while others step over you. Your parents could buy ten buildings and they still won’t give you a parking spot.

William and Mary and even UVA are more old school, kind schools. UC is a blast but not for the faint of heart.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If it helps, taking CS aside, if William & Mary was a UC it would probably slot somewhere between UCLA and UCSB. With UCSB being on the same tier as UCSD.

USD is a lovely school, the reputation is very regional to SoCal. The school is heavily populated with smart, wealthy Catholic school kids that ran into bad luck with hard targets such as BC, Davidson, etc. and Bay Area kids who did not want to go to Santa Clara as it was too close to home.

Kids from all three schools hang out at the same, beautiful beach.


I wouldn’t put William and Mary above the mid tier UCs anymore than I’d rank UVA or UMD anywhere near UCLA or Cal. The UC system is substantially above other state systems. The research opportunities, elite faculty, top ranked students, and programs are unlike any other state systems. The downside is that they are fiercely competitive and it doesn’t stop once you get in. UCs have a steady pipeline of transfer students and do not care if you wash out. First and second year courses can be shockingly huge. Some UCs have curves with quotas which leads to sabotage by fellow students. Finding housing can be a huge struggle at some UCs. The competition for clubs, internships, and programs is intense. If you were top dog at your private school, on the lacrosse team and expect to waltz in claiming a top spot you will quickly sulk back to your overcrowded room and bunk bed while others step over you. Your parents could buy ten buildings and they still won’t give you a parking spot.

William and Mary and even UVA are more old school, kind schools. UC is a blast but not for the faint of heart.


Maybe they are old school, but UVA and W&M do better than UCs on quite a few metrics and measures that may be relevant to undergraduates.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I remember when UCSD was considered the third best UC school (behind Berkeley and LA), but Irvine and Santa Barbara have really come up in the world. I think a big part of that is San Diego is really provincial (I say this as a person who lived there for years) and is a place where people come for the sun and weather. Most students live off campus in small group homes (more accurately hovels) in places like Ocean Beach since La Jolla is one of the most expensive and closed communities in the US, so there is not much school spirit or community. There are a lot of complaints about a lack of class space causing students to take 6 years to graduate, but some of this is due to students who want to hang out in San Diego.

As others mentioned, San Diego State is a party school and has a more defined school community.

USD is very different (obviously smaller and private). I found that people though well of it in San Diego because a lot of alumni work in the area. I would not go there as a minority student.


Off-topic but how is San Diego provincial (or more provincial than LA or SF)?



Hard to explain but true. SD has a tourism culture, endless suburbs, a lot of military, a lot of retirees, general aimless transience and people trying to make a go of it despite high cost of living. OB is still shady, but too expensive for students, expect to live farther east. There's a youtube channel for the squalor, the dui rate and wrongway driving is more extreme than the crime rate. https://www.youtube.com/@619NewsMedia/videos.
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