DID FCPS Talk about 9/11?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. A couple of my co-workers and I talked about, but I didn’t bring it up with my class of 4th graders.

You stink as a teacher and are anti American

Surely this post is sarcasm or a troll.?.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If it's not in the curriculum, then we don't talk about it. Doing so would mean basically winging it and bringing up a potentially traumatic and politically charged event with no script, learning target, or approved materials. That could get awkward quickly, and it's a good way to jeopardize your career. And, of course, have certain parents up in arms.

I'm very concerned that you mentioned having no script. Do you only teach things with a script? If so, that's incredibly sad.

Does everything in your classroom have to have a learning target? You can't have a teachable moment in which you check in with your students regarding their feelings about something that has happened? If not, that's incredibly sad.

I've been teaching just under 30 years and I've never used a script for teaching anything. Ever. The only time I use a script is during standardized testing, but that's not instructional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it's not in the curriculum, then we don't talk about it. Doing so would mean basically winging it and bringing up a potentially traumatic and politically charged event with no script, learning target, or approved materials. That could get awkward quickly, and it's a good way to jeopardize your career. And, of course, have certain parents up in arms.

I'm very concerned that you mentioned having no script. Do you only teach things with a script? If so, that's incredibly sad.

Does everything in your classroom have to have a learning target? You can't have a teachable moment in which you check in with your students regarding their feelings about something that has happened? If not, that's incredibly sad.

I've been teaching just under 30 years and I've never used a script for teaching anything. Ever. The only time I use a script is during standardized testing, but that's not instructional.

Typically when there is a tragedy that we expect to come up in class, we do have some talking points from counseling staff to help make sure we keep it focused on what is emotionally and developmentally appropriate for small children. This happens in my school when we have incidents of violence like murder nearby.

I would never bring up a violent incident in my classroom with no warning or context related to what we are learning. If it is raised by a student, then sure, we talk about it in very limited ways, but I’m not going to initiate a lengthy discussion about the mass murder of 3,000 people with a classroom of six years olds just because it’s the anniversary date. I’m sure that PP is envisioning starting a conversation and having a roomful of parents calling to blast them about how they handled it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. A couple of my co-workers and I talked about, but I didn’t bring it up with my class of 4th graders.

You stink as a teacher and are anti American

Surely this post is sarcasm or a troll.?.

Must be….because that comment makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it's not in the curriculum, then we don't talk about it. Doing so would mean basically winging it and bringing up a potentially traumatic and politically charged event with no script, learning target, or approved materials. That could get awkward quickly, and it's a good way to jeopardize your career. And, of course, have certain parents up in arms.

I'm very concerned that you mentioned having no script. Do you only teach things with a script? If so, that's incredibly sad.

Does everything in your classroom have to have a learning target? You can't have a teachable moment in which you check in with your students regarding their feelings about something that has happened? If not, that's incredibly sad.

I've been teaching just under 30 years and I've never used a script for teaching anything. Ever. The only time I use a script is during standardized testing, but that's not instructional.

Typically when there is a tragedy that we expect to come up in class, we do have some talking points from counseling staff to help make sure we keep it focused on what is emotionally and developmentally appropriate for small children. This happens in my school when we have incidents of violence like murder nearby.

I would never bring up a violent incident in my classroom with no warning or context related to what we are learning. If it is raised by a student, then sure, we talk about it in very limited ways, but I’m not going to initiate a lengthy discussion about the mass murder of 3,000 people with a classroom of six years olds just because it’s the anniversary date. I’m sure that PP is envisioning starting a conversation and having a roomful of parents calling to blast them about how they handled it.

True, not every group of students are emotionally mature to handle such a conversation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it's not in the curriculum, then we don't talk about it. Doing so would mean basically winging it and bringing up a potentially traumatic and politically charged event with no script, learning target, or approved materials. That could get awkward quickly, and it's a good way to jeopardize your career. And, of course, have certain parents up in arms.

What are you talking about it was an Attack on American soil!

It’s not politically charged that’s absurd.

We are the United States of America and it’s time MAGA and republicans remember that instead of being Anti American Putin lovers

Ummm, it is a politically charged topic. Why do you think they attacked us? And why do you think the war lasted so many years after his capture? It’s all politics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it's not in the curriculum, then we don't talk about it. Doing so would mean basically winging it and bringing up a potentially traumatic and politically charged event with no script, learning target, or approved materials. That could get awkward quickly, and it's a good way to jeopardize your career. And, of course, have certain parents up in arms.

I'm very concerned that you mentioned having no script. Do you only teach things with a script? If so, that's incredibly sad.

Does everything in your classroom have to have a learning target? You can't have a teachable moment in which you check in with your students regarding their feelings about something that has happened? If not, that's incredibly sad.

I've been teaching just under 30 years and I've never used a script for teaching anything. Ever. The only time I use a script is during standardized testing, but that's not instructional.

Kids these days aren't going to have feelings about 9/11. It would be like talking about Pearl Harbor on December 7.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it's not in the curriculum, then we don't talk about it. Doing so would mean basically winging it and bringing up a potentially traumatic and politically charged event with no script, learning target, or approved materials. That could get awkward quickly, and it's a good way to jeopardize your career. And, of course, have certain parents up in arms.

I'm very concerned that you mentioned having no script. Do you only teach things with a script? If so, that's incredibly sad.

Does everything in your classroom have to have a learning target? You can't have a teachable moment in which you check in with your students regarding their feelings about something that has happened? If not, that's incredibly sad.

I've been teaching just under 30 years and I've never used a script for teaching anything. Ever. The only time I use a script is during standardized testing, but that's not instructional.

Kids these days aren't going to have feelings about 9/11. It would be like talking about Pearl Harbor on December 7.

They may be interested once, but not hearing about it every single year.

[Anonymous]

Yes, they had 2 moments of silence that day in remembrance and saw 3 movies about heroes who survived.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it's not in the curriculum, then we don't talk about it. Doing so would mean basically winging it and bringing up a potentially traumatic and politically charged event with no script, learning target, or approved materials. That could get awkward quickly, and it's a good way to jeopardize your career. And, of course, have certain parents up in arms.

I'm very concerned that you mentioned having no script. Do you only teach things with a script? If so, that's incredibly sad.

Does everything in your classroom have to have a learning target? You can't have a teachable moment in which you check in with your students regarding their feelings about something that has happened? If not, that's incredibly sad.

I've been teaching just under 30 years and I've never used a script for teaching anything. Ever. The only time I use a script is during standardized testing, but that's not instructional.

FLE/Human Growth and Development lessons are pretty much scripted. Benchmark language arts lessons amount to a lot of script reading.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it's not in the curriculum, then we don't talk about it. Doing so would mean basically winging it and bringing up a potentially traumatic and politically charged event with no script, learning target, or approved materials. That could get awkward quickly, and it's a good way to jeopardize your career. And, of course, have certain parents up in arms.

I'm very concerned that you mentioned having no script. Do you only teach things with a script? If so, that's incredibly sad.

Does everything in your classroom have to have a learning target? You can't have a teachable moment in which you check in with your students regarding their feelings about something that has happened? If not, that's incredibly sad.

I've been teaching just under 30 years and I've never used a script for teaching anything. Ever. The only time I use a script is during standardized testing, but that's not instructional.

FLE/Human Growth and Development lessons are pretty much scripted. Benchmark language arts lessons amount to a lot of script reading.

So elementary teachers and HPE teachers. The other teachers are not scripted regarding how to teach their curricula.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it's not in the curriculum, then we don't talk about it. Doing so would mean basically winging it and bringing up a potentially traumatic and politically charged event with no script, learning target, or approved materials. That could get awkward quickly, and it's a good way to jeopardize your career. And, of course, have certain parents up in arms.

I'm very concerned that you mentioned having no script. Do you only teach things with a script? If so, that's incredibly sad.

Does everything in your classroom have to have a learning target? You can't have a teachable moment in which you check in with your students regarding their feelings about something that has happened? If not, that's incredibly sad.

I've been teaching just under 30 years and I've never used a script for teaching anything. Ever. The only time I use a script is during standardized testing, but that's not instructional.

FLE/Human Growth and Development lessons are pretty much scripted. Benchmark language arts lessons amount to a lot of script reading.

So elementary teachers and HPE teachers. The other teachers are not scripted regarding how to teach their curricula.

The PP could have been an ES teacher, so I wouldn’t have been so shocked, particularly about needing to have a learning target. If an administrator comes into my room I had better be teaching whatever is scheduled during that time and there better be an identifiable learning target. Thankfully I no longer have to write all the “I can….” statements for each subject on the board.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it's not in the curriculum, then we don't talk about it. Doing so would mean basically winging it and bringing up a potentially traumatic and politically charged event with no script, learning target, or approved materials. That could get awkward quickly, and it's a good way to jeopardize your career. And, of course, have certain parents up in arms.

I'm very concerned that you mentioned having no script. Do you only teach things with a script? If so, that's incredibly sad.

Does everything in your classroom have to have a learning target? You can't have a teachable moment in which you check in with your students regarding their feelings about something that has happened? If not, that's incredibly sad.

I've been teaching just under 30 years and I've never used a script for teaching anything. Ever. The only time I use a script is during standardized testing, but that's not instructional.

FLE/Human Growth and Development lessons are pretty much scripted. Benchmark language arts lessons amount to a lot of script reading.

So elementary teachers and HPE teachers. The other teachers are not scripted regarding how to teach their curricula.

The PP could have been an ES teacher, so I wouldn’t have been so shocked, particularly about needing to have a learning target. If an administrator comes into my room I had better be teaching whatever is scheduled during that time and there better be an identifiable learning target. Thankfully I no longer have to write all the “I can….” statements for each subject on the board.

Gee. Old teacher here. Never was told when to teach what. That must be awful. We were supposed to have plans in our "plan book" but, we were free to create our own schedules. (Normally, language arts/reading first, but it was not required. If you had a special in the a.m., we might do math first. Up to the teacher.)

And, NEVER was I given a script--except as a PP said for standardized tests. There were scripts available in teacher's manuals, but I never used them word for word. Only as a guideline.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it's not in the curriculum, then we don't talk about it. Doing so would mean basically winging it and bringing up a potentially traumatic and politically charged event with no script, learning target, or approved materials. That could get awkward quickly, and it's a good way to jeopardize your career. And, of course, have certain parents up in arms.

I'm very concerned that you mentioned having no script. Do you only teach things with a script? If so, that's incredibly sad.

Does everything in your classroom have to have a learning target? You can't have a teachable moment in which you check in with your students regarding their feelings about something that has happened? If not, that's incredibly sad.

I've been teaching just under 30 years and I've never used a script for teaching anything. Ever. The only time I use a script is during standardized testing, but that's not instructional.

FLE/Human Growth and Development lessons are pretty much scripted. Benchmark language arts lessons amount to a lot of script reading.

So elementary teachers and HPE teachers. The other teachers are not scripted regarding how to teach their curricula.

The PP could have been an ES teacher, so I wouldn’t have been so shocked, particularly about needing to have a learning target. If an administrator comes into my room I had better be teaching whatever is scheduled during that time and there better be an identifiable learning target. Thankfully I no longer have to write all the “I can….” statements for each subject on the board.

Gee. Old teacher here. Never was told when to teach what. That must be awful. We were supposed to have plans in our "plan book" but, we were free to create our own schedules. (Normally, language arts/reading first, but it was not required. If you had a special in the a.m., we might do math first. Up to the teacher.)

And, NEVER was I given a script--except as a PP said for standardized tests. There were scripts available in teacher's manuals, but I never used them word for word. Only as a guideline.

In elementary, we need to follow a schedule in regards to when we teach math and language arts because there are pullouts for students.

In almost all grades, there is a pacing guide because so many teachers did their own thing and either didn’t teach the curriculum or fell months behind schedule.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it's not in the curriculum, then we don't talk about it. Doing so would mean basically winging it and bringing up a potentially traumatic and politically charged event with no script, learning target, or approved materials. That could get awkward quickly, and it's a good way to jeopardize your career. And, of course, have certain parents up in arms.

I'm very concerned that you mentioned having no script. Do you only teach things with a script? If so, that's incredibly sad.

Does everything in your classroom have to have a learning target? You can't have a teachable moment in which you check in with your students regarding their feelings about something that has happened? If not, that's incredibly sad.

I've been teaching just under 30 years and I've never used a script for teaching anything. Ever. The only time I use a script is during standardized testing, but that's not instructional.

FLE/Human Growth and Development lessons are pretty much scripted. Benchmark language arts lessons amount to a lot of script reading.

So elementary teachers and HPE teachers. The other teachers are not scripted regarding how to teach their curricula.

The PP could have been an ES teacher, so I wouldn’t have been so shocked, particularly about needing to have a learning target. If an administrator comes into my room I had better be teaching whatever is scheduled during that time and there better be an identifiable learning target. Thankfully I no longer have to write all the “I can….” statements for each subject on the board.

Gee. Old teacher here. Never was told when to teach what. That must be awful. We were supposed to have plans in our "plan book" but, we were free to create our own schedules. (Normally, language arts/reading first, but it was not required. If you had a special in the a.m., we might do math first. Up to the teacher.)

And, NEVER was I given a script--except as a PP said for standardized tests. There were scripts available in teacher's manuals, but I never used them word for word. Only as a guideline.

It was like that when I first started teaching for FCPS 32 years ago, but we’ve been tightly scheduled for quite a while now. Our team was spoken to by the principal probably 8 years ago or so (a few years before Covid) because we weren’t all teaching science when she came through. I think I had gone over in social studies by 10 minutes or something like that. Schedules are “tight” and subject blocks are set up by admin.

Benchmark is scripted to the point that teachers sit in front of the class with the teacher guide in their laps and read from it.