Prestigious nursing programs?

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Anonymous wrote:Yea, DCUM has to be the only website in the universe where posters seriously think that it matters professionally where you go to nursing school.

It DOES matter, for the very top options in the nursing field. These may be less than 5% of all nursing jobs but it matters for that group of jobs.

No it doesn’t.

This is a desperate parent trying to justify spending $$$ for their kid

Nope nope nope- and I am a nurse who loves her career

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yea, DCUM has to be the only website in the universe where posters seriously think that it matters professionally where you go to nursing school.

It DOES matter, for the very top options in the nursing field. These may be less than 5% of all nursing jobs but it matters for that group of jobs.

No it doesn’t.

This is a desperate parent trying to justify spending $$$ for their kid

Nope nope nope- and I am a nurse who loves her career

No it isn’t. My kids are out of college.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Never thought the word prestigious and Nursing degrees could be used in the same sentence.

^Yes.

School doesn't matter in professions with normally distributed salaries (nursing, civil engineering).

In professions with log normal distribution of salaries (law, business, econ), school is almost the only thing that does matter.

True for other normally distributed professions. But As a Civil Engineer, I can tell you that there would have been zero chance that I would have been able to run one of the largest Construction companies in the country without the “prestige” associated with the university I went to. It was not the deciding factor but it was a huge factor. I don think this is happening with Nurse jobs.

Engineers think they know everything, especially subjects they self admittedly know nothing about, as here.

Not the PP, but what did he say that was wrong? I dont see any Nurses running any Fortune 1000 companies do you?

Three hospitals in Philly are run by Penn nursing grads including the Penn Hospital, Children’s Hospital and the Philly Veteran’s hospital.

Also, UCLA and Hopkins Medical Center CEOs have nursing degrees.

+++ thank you!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Never thought the word prestigious and Nursing degrees could be used in the same sentence.

^Yes.

School doesn't matter in professions with normally distributed salaries (nursing, civil engineering).

In professions with log normal distribution of salaries (law, business, econ), school is almost the only thing that does matter.

True for other normally distributed professions. But As a Civil Engineer, I can tell you that there would have been zero chance that I would have been able to run one of the largest Construction companies in the country without the “prestige” associated with the university I went to. It was not the deciding factor but it was a huge factor. I don think this is happening with Nurse jobs.

Engineers think they know everything, especially subjects they self admittedly know nothing about, as here.

Not the PP, but what did he say that was wrong? I dont see any Nurses running any Fortune 1000 companies do you?

Three hospitals in Philly are run by Penn nursing grads including the Penn Hospital, Children’s Hospital and the Philly Veteran’s hospital.

Also, UCLA and Hopkins Medical Center CEOs have nursing degrees.

What do you mean these hospitals are "run' by Penn nursing grads? What positions are you talking about?
I'm not finding these people.

And Hopkins Medicine is run by Redonda Miller who is an MD.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never thought the word prestigious and Nursing degrees could be used in the same sentence.

^Yes.

School doesn't matter in professions with normally distributed salaries (nursing, civil engineering).

In professions with log normal distribution of salaries (law, business, econ), school is almost the only thing that does matter.

True for other normally distributed professions. But As a Civil Engineer, I can tell you that there would have been zero chance that I would have been able to run one of the largest Construction companies in the country without the “prestige” associated with the university I went to. It was not the deciding factor but it was a huge factor. I don think this is happening with Nurse jobs.

Engineers think they know everything, especially subjects they self admittedly know nothing about, as here.

Not the PP, but what did he say that was wrong? I dont see any Nurses running any Fortune 1000 companies do you?

Three hospitals in Philly are run by Penn nursing grads including the Penn Hospital, Children’s Hospital and the Philly Veteran’s hospital.

Also, UCLA and Hopkins Medical Center CEOs have nursing degrees.

+++ thank you!

This person is making this stuff up. You are thanking someone who is not telling the truth.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never thought the word prestigious and Nursing degrees could be used in the same sentence.

^Yes.

School doesn't matter in professions with normally distributed salaries (nursing, civil engineering).

In professions with log normal distribution of salaries (law, business, econ), school is almost the only thing that does matter.

True for other normally distributed professions. But As a Civil Engineer, I can tell you that there would have been zero chance that I would have been able to run one of the largest Construction companies in the country without the “prestige” associated with the university I went to. It was not the deciding factor but it was a huge factor. I don think this is happening with Nurse jobs.

Engineers think they know everything, especially subjects they self admittedly know nothing about, as here.

Not the PP, but what did he say that was wrong? I dont see any Nurses running any Fortune 1000 companies do you?

Three hospitals in Philly are run by Penn nursing grads including the Penn Hospital, Children’s Hospital and the Philly Veteran’s hospital.

Also, UCLA and Hopkins Medical Center CEOs have nursing degrees.

What do you mean these hospitals are "run' by Penn nursing grads? What positions are you talking about?
I'm not finding these people.

And Hopkins Medicine is run by Redonda Miller who is an MD.

I just googled and found an article.

Regina Cunningham is CEO of Penn Hospital…Madeline Bell is CEO of CHoP…Karen Flaherty is CEO of Philly VA hospital.

From University City to Memorial Healthcare System in Florida, where three out of six hospitals are now run by nurse CEOs, to Johns Hopkins, where a former oncology nurse serves as president of the health system, to hospitals and health systems of all sizes throughout the country, nurses like Cunningham, Bell, and Flaherty-Oxler are increasingly landing at the top of the org chart.

[Anonymous]

^Nurses and women! Think of that.

Probably 'cause these healthcare orgs can get 'em for 78 cents on the dollar.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never thought the word prestigious and Nursing degrees could be used in the same sentence.

^Yes.

School doesn't matter in professions with normally distributed salaries (nursing, civil engineering).

In professions with log normal distribution of salaries (law, business, econ), school is almost the only thing that does matter.

True for other normally distributed professions. But As a Civil Engineer, I can tell you that there would have been zero chance that I would have been able to run one of the largest Construction companies in the country without the “prestige” associated with the university I went to. It was not the deciding factor but it was a huge factor. I don think this is happening with Nurse jobs.

Engineers think they know everything, especially subjects they self admittedly know nothing about, as here.

Not the PP, but what did he say that was wrong? I dont see any Nurses running any Fortune 1000 companies do you?

Three hospitals in Philly are run by Penn nursing grads including the Penn Hospital, Children’s Hospital and the Philly Veteran’s hospital.

Also, UCLA and Hopkins Medical Center CEOs have nursing degrees.

What do you mean these hospitals are "run' by Penn nursing grads? What positions are you talking about?
I'm not finding these people.

And Hopkins Medicine is run by Redonda Miller who is an MD.

The Executive Vice President for Hopkins Medicine is a male nurse. Good for him!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never thought the word prestigious and Nursing degrees could be used in the same sentence.

^Yes.

School doesn't matter in professions with normally distributed salaries (nursing, civil engineering).

In professions with log normal distribution of salaries (law, business, econ), school is almost the only thing that does matter.

True for other normally distributed professions. But As a Civil Engineer, I can tell you that there would have been zero chance that I would have been able to run one of the largest Construction companies in the country without the “prestige” associated with the university I went to. It was not the deciding factor but it was a huge factor. I don think this is happening with Nurse jobs.

Engineers think they know everything, especially subjects they self admittedly know nothing about, as here.

Not the PP, but what did he say that was wrong? I dont see any Nurses running any Fortune 1000 companies do you?

Three hospitals in Philly are run by Penn nursing grads including the Penn Hospital, Children’s Hospital and the Philly Veteran’s hospital.

Also, UCLA and Hopkins Medical Center CEOs have nursing degrees.

What do you mean these hospitals are "run' by Penn nursing grads? What positions are you talking about?
I'm not finding these people.

And Hopkins Medicine is run by Redonda Miller who is an MD.

CEO of Penn Hospital is not an RN: https://www.thedp.com/article/2023/11/penn-medicine-alicia-gresham-ceo-pennsylvania-hospital

I just googled and found an article.

Regina Cunningham is CEO of Penn Hospital…Madeline Bell is CEO of CHoP…Karen Flaherty is CEO of Philly VA hospital.

From University City to Memorial Healthcare System in Florida, where three out of six hospitals are now run by nurse CEOs, to Johns Hopkins, where a former oncology nurse serves as president of the health system, to hospitals and health systems of all sizes throughout the country, nurses like Cunningham, Bell, and Flaherty-Oxler are increasingly landing at the top of the org chart.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never thought the word prestigious and Nursing degrees could be used in the same sentence.

^Yes.

School doesn't matter in professions with normally distributed salaries (nursing, civil engineering).

In professions with log normal distribution of salaries (law, business, econ), school is almost the only thing that does matter.

True for other normally distributed professions. But As a Civil Engineer, I can tell you that there would have been zero chance that I would have been able to run one of the largest Construction companies in the country without the “prestige” associated with the university I went to. It was not the deciding factor but it was a huge factor. I don think this is happening with Nurse jobs.

Engineers think they know everything, especially subjects they self admittedly know nothing about, as here.

Not the PP, but what did he say that was wrong? I dont see any Nurses running any Fortune 1000 companies do you?

Three hospitals in Philly are run by Penn nursing grads including the Penn Hospital, Children’s Hospital and the Philly Veteran’s hospital.

Also, UCLA and Hopkins Medical Center CEOs have nursing degrees.

What do you mean these hospitals are "run' by Penn nursing grads? What positions are you talking about?
I'm not finding these people.

And Hopkins Medicine is run by Redonda Miller who is an MD.

The Executive Vice President for Hopkins Medicine is a male nurse. Good for him!

It looks like Kevin Sowers, MSN, is President of the Hopkins Health System as well as EVP for Hopkins Medicine. https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/about/leadership/kevin-sowers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never thought the word prestigious and Nursing degrees could be used in the same sentence.

^Yes.

School doesn't matter in professions with normally distributed salaries (nursing, civil engineering).

In professions with log normal distribution of salaries (law, business, econ), school is almost the only thing that does matter.

True for other normally distributed professions. But As a Civil Engineer, I can tell you that there would have been zero chance that I would have been able to run one of the largest Construction companies in the country without the “prestige” associated with the university I went to. It was not the deciding factor but it was a huge factor. I don think this is happening with Nurse jobs.

Engineers think they know everything, especially subjects they self admittedly know nothing about, as here.

Not the PP, but what did he say that was wrong? I dont see any Nurses running any Fortune 1000 companies do you?

DP. I am a physician who went to an ivy undergrad and a Top3 med school and T10 residency. At all of those hospital systems there are heads of nursing such as chief nursing officer or head of education, who typically have a phD in nursing or at least a masters. These places are top medical centers in the country. 70% of them did BSN at highly ranked program (ie Emory, Penn, Hopkins, NYU or Duke(accelerated BSN requires a bachelors in another field first so not an undergrad program). These women were the top of their game, truly impressive individuals, who had earned the respect of doctors and admins alike.

Nurses can also make $$$$ in surgical equipment sales, insurance, pharmaceuticals, or moving on to being practitioners or CRNAs. The school you go to DOES matter for many of the same reasons it matters for any other field. Going to Penn or Hopkins is going to a vastly different experience, and filled with different types of students than is you go to community college and get your associate’s degree/RN.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never thought the word prestigious and Nursing degrees could be used in the same sentence.

^Yes.

School doesn't matter in professions with normally distributed salaries (nursing, civil engineering).

In professions with log normal distribution of salaries (law, business, econ), school is almost the only thing that does matter.

True for other normally distributed professions. But As a Civil Engineer, I can tell you that there would have been zero chance that I would have been able to run one of the largest Construction companies in the country without the “prestige” associated with the university I went to. It was not the deciding factor but it was a huge factor. I don think this is happening with Nurse jobs.

Engineers think they know everything, especially subjects they self admittedly know nothing about, as here.

Not the PP, but what did he say that was wrong? I dont see any Nurses running any Fortune 1000 companies do you?

Three hospitals in Philly are run by Penn nursing grads including the Penn Hospital, Children’s Hospital and the Philly Veteran’s hospital.

Also, UCLA and Hopkins Medical Center CEOs have nursing degrees.

What do you mean these hospitals are "run' by Penn nursing grads? What positions are you talking about?
I'm not finding these people.

And Hopkins Medicine is run by Redonda Miller who is an MD.

CEO of Penn Hospital is not an RN: https://www.thedp.com/article/2023/11/penn-medicine-alicia-gresham-ceo-pennsylvania-hospital

I just googled and found an article.

Regina Cunningham is CEO of Penn Hospital…Madeline Bell is CEO of CHoP…Karen Flaherty is CEO of Philly VA hospital.

From University City to Memorial Healthcare System in Florida, where three out of six hospitals are now run by nurse CEOs, to Johns Hopkins, where a former oncology nurse serves as president of the health system, to hospitals and health systems of all sizes throughout the country, nurses like Cunningham, Bell, and Flaherty-Oxler are increasingly landing at the top of the org chart.

Unless she is lying in her official resume which would be bizarre:

Dr. Cunningham is an accomplished nurse executive, scientist, and educator who has made significant contributions to advancing nursing practice and clinical care. Cunningham is currently Chief Executive Officer at the Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania and Adjunct Professor and Assistant Dean for Clinical

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Dr. Regina Cunningham received her BSN from College of St Vincent
Kevin Sowers received his BSN from Capital University Schol of Nursing

I'm not trying to minimize them in any way but neither of these two accomplished nurse executives started out at Penn or Hopkins.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never thought the word prestigious and Nursing degrees could be used in the same sentence.

^Yes.

School doesn't matter in professions with normally distributed salaries (nursing, civil engineering).

In professions with log normal distribution of salaries (law, business, econ), school is almost the only thing that does matter.

True for other normally distributed professions. But As a Civil Engineer, I can tell you that there would have been zero chance that I would have been able to run one of the largest Construction companies in the country without the “prestige” associated with the university I went to. It was not the deciding factor but it was a huge factor. I don think this is happening with Nurse jobs.

Engineers think they know everything, especially subjects they self admittedly know nothing about, as here.

Not the PP, but what did he say that was wrong? I dont see any Nurses running any Fortune 1000 companies do you?

DP. I am a physician who went to an ivy undergrad and a Top3 med school and T10 residency. At all of those hospital systems there are heads of nursing such as chief nursing officer or head of education, who typically have a phD in nursing or at least a masters. These places are top medical centers in the country. 70% of them did BSN at highly ranked program (ie Emory, Penn, Hopkins, NYU or Duke(accelerated BSN requires a bachelors in another field first so not an undergrad program). These women were the top of their game, truly impressive individuals, who had earned the respect of doctors and admins alike.

Nurses can also make $$$$ in surgical equipment sales, insurance, pharmaceuticals, or moving on to being practitioners or CRNAs. The school you go to DOES matter for many of the same reasons it matters for any other field. Going to Penn or Hopkins is going to a vastly different experience, and filled with different types of students than is you go to community college and get your associate’s degree/RN.

I feel sorry for your kids.

Also, your disdain for nurses shows when you seem to think the alternative to going to Penn or Hopkins is 'going to community college and get your associate's degree'. Most DC area hospitals require BSN prepared nurses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never thought the word prestigious and Nursing degrees could be used in the same sentence.

^Yes.

School doesn't matter in professions with normally distributed salaries (nursing, civil engineering).

In professions with log normal distribution of salaries (law, business, econ), school is almost the only thing that does matter.

True for other normally distributed professions. But As a Civil Engineer, I can tell you that there would have been zero chance that I would have been able to run one of the largest Construction companies in the country without the “prestige” associated with the university I went to. It was not the deciding factor but it was a huge factor. I don think this is happening with Nurse jobs.

Engineers think they know everything, especially subjects they self admittedly know nothing about, as here.

Not the PP, but what did he say that was wrong? I dont see any Nurses running any Fortune 1000 companies do you?

DP. I am a physician who went to an ivy undergrad and a Top3 med school and T10 residency. At all of those hospital systems there are heads of nursing such as chief nursing officer or head of education, who typically have a phD in nursing or at least a masters. These places are top medical centers in the country. 70% of them did BSN at highly ranked program (ie Emory, Penn, Hopkins, NYU or Duke(accelerated BSN requires a bachelors in another field first so not an undergrad program). These women were the top of their game, truly impressive individuals, who had earned the respect of doctors and admins alike.

Nurses can also make $$$$ in surgical equipment sales, insurance, pharmaceuticals, or moving on to being practitioners or CRNAs. The school you go to DOES matter for many of the same reasons it matters for any other field. Going to Penn or Hopkins is going to a vastly different experience, and filled with different types of students than is you go to community college and get your associate’s degree/RN.

I feel sorry for your kids.

Also, your disdain for nurses shows when you seem to think the alternative to going to Penn or Hopkins is 'going to community college and get your associate's degree'. Most DC area hospitals require BSN prepared nurses.

Distain for nurses? What are you talking about? Of course there are benefits to going to a better school, regardless of major.