Elderly parent is on Medicaid in nursing home, will they lose financing?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just curious what will happen to elderly 71 year old disabled parent who is medicaid in a nursing home. We pay nothing. Would she lose her spot in a nursing home?

71 is very young to be in a nursing home. She is not elderly. I am assuming she is otherwise disabled, as opposed to being elderly, so that is likely what will impact her status.


Elderly is a medical concept in this context and 65 is the age one is considered by medical professionals to be sadly elderly. If you make it to 75+ that’s late elderly. Many Americans have serious health conditions by the time they are early to mid 60s which is why mid 70s is the average age life expectancy for Americans. The better educated and wealthier tend to live much longer because they didn’t do a lifetime of body crushing work and they had easier access to preventive health care and high quality diet etc.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yes.
They will be turned over to you.
filial responsibility law.
You pay or you take them into your home.


No, that’s not how it works. They cannot force you to pay.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I predict a lot more euthanasia.


YOU do not get to make the decision about when and how you die. THEY make that decision for you. It’s the ultimate expression of freedom, really.

/s


That’s not how it works and not allowed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just curious what will happen to elderly 71 year old disabled parent who is medicaid in a nursing home. We pay nothing. Would she lose her spot in a nursing home?

71 is very young to be in a nursing home. She is not elderly. I am assuming she is otherwise disabled, as opposed to being elderly, so that is likely what will impact her status.


Elderly is a medical concept in this context and 65 is the age one is considered by medical professionals to be sadly elderly. If you make it to 75+ that’s late elderly. Many Americans have serious health conditions by the time they are early to mid 60s which is why mid 70s is the average age life expectancy for Americans. The better educated and wealthier tend to live much longer because they didn’t do a lifetime of body crushing work and they had easier access to preventive health care and high quality diet etc.



Not sadly elderly, EARLY elderly

Hate the autocorrect 🤬
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I predict a lot more euthanasia.


YOU do not get to make the decision about when and how you die. THEY make that decision for you. It’s the ultimate expression of freedom, really.

/s


In theory yes. I’ve had two family members die in hospice and my experience is that it’s a hair breadth away from euthanasia. Basically the ER doctors will suggest a discharge to hospice rather than any sort of aggresssjvr care. Hospice will then take them off all the medications that keep them gojng. Hospice will then recommend the HAM sandwich — haldol, morphine and Ativan — to keep the patient calm. They will gtadually increase the dosage on that. What elderly person is going to survive that combination? I’m not complaining, I’m just saying that there is more room for euthanasia than most people think.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No one really knows OP, and it may depend on the state and how they allocate the money.



+100

Each state is free to handle the cuts to Medicaid funding how they see fit. So, no one can say what each state will do yet.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just curious what will happen to elderly 71 year old disabled parent who is medicaid in a nursing home. We pay nothing. Would she lose her spot in a nursing home?

71 is very young to be in a nursing home. She is not elderly. I am assuming she is otherwise disabled, as opposed to being elderly, so that is likely what will impact her status.


Elderly is a medical concept in this context and 65 is the age one is considered by medical professionals to be sadly elderly. If you make it to 75+ that’s late elderly. Many Americans have serious health conditions by the time they are early to mid 60s which is why mid 70s is the average age life expectancy for Americans. The better educated and wealthier tend to live much longer because they didn’t do a lifetime of body crushing work and they had easier access to preventive health care and high quality diet etc.



It is very rare to see a lot of people in their 60s and early 70s in a nursing home. It is an anomaly if there are some, a problem that likely has been around long term or has a specific situation. I don't care what or how cultural labels came to be, but 71 is not elderly in the sense if requiring a nursing home.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just curious what will happen to elderly 71 year old disabled parent who is medicaid in a nursing home. We pay nothing. Would she lose her spot in a nursing home?

71 is very young to be in a nursing home. She is not elderly. I am assuming she is otherwise disabled, as opposed to being elderly, so that is likely what will impact her status.


Elderly is a medical concept in this context and 65 is the age one is considered by medical professionals to be sadly elderly. If you make it to 75+ that’s late elderly. Many Americans have serious health conditions by the time they are early to mid 60s which is why mid 70s is the average age life expectancy for Americans. The better educated and wealthier tend to live much longer because they didn’t do a lifetime of body crushing work and they had easier access to preventive health care and high quality diet etc.



Not sadly elderly, EARLY elderly

Hate the autocorrect 🤬

A 40 year old would call that elderly, but it isn't accurate.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Im not sure I understand your question? If she’s there, and Medicaid is paying, what makes you think they’d stop? Your relative, at their age, also has Medicare

Medicare doesn’t pay for nursing homes.


So how do people pay for nursing homes? It's very expensive
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Im not sure I understand your question? If she’s there, and Medicaid is paying, what makes you think they’d stop? Your relative, at their age, also has Medicare

Medicare doesn’t pay for nursing homes.


So how do people pay for nursing homes? It's very expensive


Private pay, family, long term care Medicaid.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Stay tuned. Overspending by the GOP will trigger automatic cuts in Medicare.

Government has been overspending for over a century.
Government will continue to overspend until it all crashes. Fiat currency be like it be.


Government hasn’t been overspending. It has been under taxing the rich.


The top 1% of earners paid 46% of federal income taxes in 2021, despite earning 15% of total income, according to the National Taxpayers Union.

The top 10% paid 75%, while the bottom 50% paid 2%.

The Joint Committee on Taxation confirms millionaires pay an average effective tax rate 3.5 times higher than most Americans.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Stay tuned. Overspending by the GOP will trigger automatic cuts in Medicare.

Government has been overspending for over a century.
Government will continue to overspend until it all crashes. Fiat currency be like it be.


Government hasn’t been overspending. It has been under taxing the rich.


Because that's and endless fountain of money for anything and everything - just keep raising taxes, and we can have everything! No need for fiscal discipline, or to make choices, just take it from those who earned it. That'll work out well over the long run.


Well the really rich got their tax cut. The rest of us, not so much. Why carry water for a billionaire who could give a rat's @ss about you? Same color != same wallet.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I predict a lot more euthanasia.


YOU do not get to make the decision about when and how you die. THEY make that decision for you. It’s the ultimate expression of freedom, really.

/s


In theory yes. I’ve had two family members die in hospice and my experience is that it’s a hair breadth away from euthanasia. Basically the ER doctors will suggest a discharge to hospice rather than any sort of aggresssjvr care. Hospice will then take them off all the medications that keep them gojng. Hospice will then recommend the HAM sandwich — haldol, morphine and Ativan — to keep the patient calm. They will gtadually increase the dosage on that. What elderly person is going to survive that combination? I’m not complaining, I’m just saying that there is more room for euthanasia than most people think.


This is a little off-topic, but yes, this is basically what happens and not only to the elderly. My 40-year-old sister was dying of cancer and when he just couldn't stand it anymore, her live-in boyfriend called the hospice nurse one morning to administer the "emergency pack," which is exactly what the PP described above. My parents were planning to come to see her the next day, but hospice and boyfriend made the decision to end her life without any other family members. Fortunately, I arrived to be with her for her last breath while the boyfriend was vaccuuming the apartment and hospice nurse had gone home.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Stay tuned. Overspending by the GOP will trigger automatic cuts in Medicare.

Government has been overspending for over a century.
Government will continue to overspend until it all crashes. Fiat currency be like it be.


Government hasn’t been overspending. It has been under taxing the rich.


yeah, oh, look, it’s the usual DCUM fallback. do you have any understanding of basic economics?
https://www.pgpf.org/article/taxing-the-rich-could-raise-trillions-but-that-alone-wont-fix-our-fiscal-crisis/

please remember all those loopholes in the tax code exist for a reason. why aren’t you demanding reform from your congressional reps?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Stay tuned. Overspending by the GOP will trigger automatic cuts in Medicare.

Government has been overspending for over a century.
Government will continue to overspend until it all crashes. Fiat currency be like it be.


Government hasn’t been overspending. It has been under taxing the rich.


Because that's and endless fountain of money for anything and everything - just keep raising taxes, and we can have everything! No need for fiscal discipline, or to make choices, just take it from those who earned it. That'll work out well over the long run.


Well the really rich got their tax cut. The rest of us, not so much. Why carry water for a billionaire who could give a rat's @ss about you? Same color != same wallet.


Equally, why should someone who earned money transfer it to you through taxes? Pay your own way.
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