Why can't MoCo be broken into smaller geographic snow zones?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously? Do you believe that the teachers, cafeteria staff, secretaries, building services staff and bus drivers all live within 2-/5 miles of the school/and have the same commute to the building as your child? No, many live much farther away, and they might have gotten more snow/ice than you and can't safely get to school.

That shouldn't be the reason. There are many essential workers who have long commutes that are required to report to work after it snows. MCPS is full of entitled whiners.

Now teachers and other school staff are essential workers? When the vaccines rolled out, DCUM swore they weren’t.

Most people thought they should have been, but MCEA didn't want to go to work.

Not wanting to work in person w/o vaccines is not the same as not wanting to go to work.

[Anonymous]

If the schools were based on geography walking might be a possibility

Some W tier ES are almost 4 miles (approximately) from homes zoned for them.

Also the staff lives so far out now (unless they bought long ago or are dual income)

[Anonymous]

If you are complaining schools are closed why did you have kids?

Shut up

It’s weather for gods sake as old as time school gets cancelled omg.

[Anonymous]

There are umpteen threads on this topic over the last decade as some genius brings it up as if it were brand new every time it snows. It's not going to change people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you are complaining schools are closed why did you have kids?

Shut up

It’s weather for gods sake as old as time school gets cancelled omg.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously? Do you believe that the teachers, cafeteria staff, secretaries, building services staff and bus drivers all live within 2-/5 miles of the school/and have the same commute to the building as your child? No, many live much farther away, and they might have gotten more snow/ice than you and can't safely get to school.

That shouldn't be the reason. There are many essential workers who have long commutes that are required to report to work after it snows. MCPS is full of entitled whiners.

Now teachers and other school staff are essential workers? When the vaccines rolled out, DCUM swore they weren’t.

Most people thought they should have been, but MCEA didn't want to go to work.

Not wanting to work in person w/o vaccines is not the same as not wanting to go to work.

It is. That's just the reason they gave for not wanting to go to work. Except that wasn't even it, because they still complained about going to work even after they were given priority access to the vaccine when Hogan called them out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously? Do you believe that the teachers, cafeteria staff, secretaries, building services staff and bus drivers all live within 2-/5 miles of the school/and have the same commute to the building as your child? No, many live much farther away, and they might have gotten more snow/ice than you and can't safely get to school.

That shouldn't be the reason. There are many essential workers who have long commutes that are required to report to work after it snows. MCPS is full of entitled whiners.

The schools system does not have the same policies or procedures in place as hospitals or emergency responders (firemen, police.. ). Teacher's and other school employees hours/shifts are not planned for in the same way as many other "essential workers". But, most importantly, the decision to close schools is predicated primarily on the safety of the students... getting them to/from school, proper supervision while they are there and ensuring the building is safe, additionally meals need to get there and be prepared. If people are unable to come to work, the conditions for safely running a building may not be met.

Another thing many are not considering is that there are not employees whose only responsibility is to remove snow- so when individuals are doing snow removal, there are other things that are necessary for the running of a school that are not being done.

Most of the trucks used for plowing also used for other purposes and it's not like every school, or even closer has a plow. (MCPS would have to own, have space to park, insure, maintain, and staff 22 plows to have one for each HS cluster-- that does not make fiscal sense in an area that may see this much snow once every 4 years).

People could get to work, though. Sure, Monday was a problem. You wouldn't have wanted many people to try. But yesterday was fine for most people. And that's how schools were able to get cleared. Things were ready to go today but MCPS didn't want to open.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are umpteen threads on this topic over the last decade as some genius brings it up as if it were brand new every time it snows. It's not going to change people.

+1. This is a regular discussion topic here on DCUM, but no one ever brings it up at the board meetings. It's not happening.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Years ago when I was a kid Baltimore County, the "Hereford Zone" in the Nothern part of the county had its snow delays/closings announced separately.

Often in the southern part of Baltimore County where I lived we'd be two hours late but the Hereford Zone would be closed.

Everybody was jealous of the kids in the Hereford Zone.

With all of the discussion about closures I’m surprised that this hasn’t come up more. I also grew up in Baltimore County and as an adult I can understand the logic for having them on different closures. The weather in Catonsville and the weather in Parkton were often quite different

Does the Hereford zone still exist?

Looks like it does: https://www.bcps.org/about_us/emergency_notifications_school_closings_and_delays

So if Baltimore County, can separate their country, why can MCPS?

[Anonymous]

Because teachers and kids don’t necessarily live in their school’s neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Years ago when I was a kid Baltimore County, the "Hereford Zone" in the Nothern part of the county had its snow delays/closings announced separately.

Often in the southern part of Baltimore County where I lived we'd be two hours late but the Hereford Zone would be closed.

Everybody was jealous of the kids in the Hereford Zone.

With all of the discussion about closures I’m surprised that this hasn’t come up more. I also grew up in Baltimore County and as an adult I can understand the logic for having them on different closures. The weather in Catonsville and the weather in Parkton were often quite different

Does the Hereford zone still exist?

Looks like it does: https://www.bcps.org/about_us/emergency_notifications_school_closings_and_delays

So if Baltimore County, can separate their country, why can MCPS?

Don’t know much about BCPS but I can tell you bout the tangled web of MCPS bus services. I live in a DCC neighborhood where 3 MS and 4 HS busses drop off and pick up everyday. In addition, there is one cohort of HS kids walking 2 miles to one of the DCC HS and another group of ES kids walking 1 mile to school. In addition to these consortiums there are kids getting busses to and from all sorts of immersion, magnet and gifted programs. It’s not as simple as drawing boundaries based on where a child goes to school or where the child lives.

Lastly, MCPS has to provide transportation for unhoused students that live outside of MCPS. Long story but if their school of origin is in McPS then we’re in the book for transportation according to state law.

[Anonymous]

Friggin entitled rich folk complaining because they have to spend time with their children. Can’t day drink huh

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Years ago when I was a kid Baltimore County, the "Hereford Zone" in the Nothern part of the county had its snow delays/closings announced separately.

Often in the southern part of Baltimore County where I lived we'd be two hours late but the Hereford Zone would be closed.

Everybody was jealous of the kids in the Hereford Zone.

With all of the discussion about closures I’m surprised that this hasn’t come up more. I also grew up in Baltimore County and as an adult I can understand the logic for having them on different closures. The weather in Catonsville and the weather in Parkton were often quite different

Does the Hereford zone still exist?

Looks like it does: https://www.bcps.org/about_us/emergency_notifications_school_closings_and_delays

So if Baltimore County, can separate their country, why can MCPS?

They could, but people would probably complain more. Keep in mind the parents sending their kids to magnet programs are likely to be some of the loudest complainers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Friggin entitled rich folk complaining because they have to spend time with their children. Can’t day drink huh

No, not when working. And the cops don't like it when you do that while driving home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously? Do you believe that the teachers, cafeteria staff, secretaries, building services staff and bus drivers all live within 2-/5 miles of the school/and have the same commute to the building as your child? No, many live much farther away, and they might have gotten more snow/ice than you and can't safely get to school.

That shouldn't be the reason. There are many essential workers who have long commutes that are required to report to work after it snows. MCPS is full of entitled whiners.

The schools system does not have the same policies or procedures in place as hospitals or emergency responders (firemen, police.. ). Teacher's and other school employees hours/shifts are not planned for in the same way as many other "essential workers". But, most importantly, the decision to close schools is predicated primarily on the safety of the students... getting them to/from school, proper supervision while they are there and ensuring the building is safe, additionally meals need to get there and be prepared. If people are unable to come to work, the conditions for safely running a building may not be met.

Another thing many are not considering is that there are not employees whose only responsibility is to remove snow- so when individuals are doing snow removal, there are other things that are necessary for the running of a school that are not being done.

Most of the trucks used for plowing also used for other purposes and it's not like every school, or even closer has a plow. (MCPS would have to own, have space to park, insure, maintain, and staff 22 plows to have one for each HS cluster-- that does not make fiscal sense in an area that may see this much snow once every 4 years).

People could get to work, though. Sure, Monday was a problem. You wouldn't have wanted many people to try. But yesterday was fine for most people. And that's how schools were able to get cleared. Things were ready to go today but MCPS didn't want to open.

My school wasn’t ready until 1 pm today.