Reputation of St. John's College HS and other "normal" privates

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Back to reality.

SJC is a great school, and it is well worth visiting and learning about its various programs (Benile and Scholars). As noted, it's larger many of the others, which is a plus to some and a negative to others. They recruit heavily for key sports so unless your child is truly exceptional keep that in mind. That said, they have lots of other sports and activities to consider, as well. Talk to some of the parents who have kids there (we know many), and they'll give it a big thumbs up. We know families whose kids got into GP, Gonzaga, Visi and SR and opted for SJC, so treating it like a second-class citizen is misguided.

And no, I don't have a child there (opted to go to a smaller school) or work there...

Does this mean if a kid isn't a stellar athlete, they're less likely to get in? Or are you saying that if kid is interested in sports but is just an average player, they may be disappointed to be left off varsity teams because so many spots will go to athletic recruits? Or do you mean that academics may be hindered because some kids are in the school just because of sports and may slow down other kids in the classroom?

It means a couple of things:

(i) for most sports, if you are not recruited, you likely won't make the team...and if you were to be one of the very few to make the team...you probably won't ever play in a Varsity game. Certain sports like crew, rugby and XCountry are minimal or no-cut sports; and

(ii) there are plenty of recruited athletes with less than stellar HPST scores...so, indirectly it does mean that it is harder for other non-athlete kids to get accepted. No different than how you would think about elite college admissions, although the overall acceptance rate of SJC is much higher.

There are plenty of honors and AP classes (you do have to do well in honors and get recommended for AP...you can't just register) for people of different academic abilities to be with their peers.

People overstate the number of "recruited" athletes at SJC. There are talented athletes. Most of them aren't "recruited." I don't really get your reasoning about HSPT scores. They are only one piece of the puzzle and not the most important one for admissions whether you are an athlete or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Back to reality.

SJC is a great school, and it is well worth visiting and learning about its various programs (Benile and Scholars). As noted, it's larger many of the others, which is a plus to some and a negative to others. They recruit heavily for key sports so unless your child is truly exceptional keep that in mind. That said, they have lots of other sports and activities to consider, as well. Talk to some of the parents who have kids there (we know many), and they'll give it a big thumbs up. We know families whose kids got into GP, Gonzaga, Visi and SR and opted for SJC, so treating it like a second-class citizen is misguided.

And no, I don't have a child there (opted to go to a smaller school) or work there...

Does this mean if a kid isn't a stellar athlete, they're less likely to get in? Or are you saying that if kid is interested in sports but is just an average player, they may be disappointed to be left off varsity teams because so many spots will go to athletic recruits? Or do you mean that academics may be hindered because some kids are in the school just because of sports and may slow down other kids in the classroom?

It means a couple of things:

(i) for most sports, if you are not recruited, you likely won't make the team...and if you were to be one of the very few to make the team...you probably won't ever play in a Varsity game. Certain sports like crew, rugby and XCountry are minimal or no-cut sports; and

(ii) there are plenty of recruited athletes with less than stellar HPST scores...so, indirectly it does mean that it is harder for other non-athlete kids to get accepted. No different than how you would think about elite college admissions, although the overall acceptance rate of SJC is much higher.

There are plenty of honors and AP classes (you do have to do well in honors and get recommended for AP...you can't just register) for people of different academic abilities to be with their peers.

People overstate the number of "recruited" athletes at SJC. There are talented athletes. Most of them aren't "recruited." I don't really get your reasoning about HSPT scores. They are only one piece of the puzzle and not the most important one for admissions whether you are an athlete or not.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Unnecessary to correct misstatements of fact?

You should know you’re not allowed to say anything about Sidwell that can remotely be perceived as a compliment. If you dare, someone will race to the post to put you “snobby Sidwell parents” in your place!

Please. The thread is expressly NOT about Sidwell. Second, it wasn't a misstatement. PP offered an average range among a group of schools for a broad comparison. So yes, unnecessary to point out this year's actual number for one of those schools. Nobody cares if it's 10, 11, or zero.

This thread may not be about Sidwell, but the OP mentioned Sidwell in his/her initial post. Since then, several other posters have invoked Sidwell’s name. In case you weren’t aware, conversations are allowed to organically evolve and include additional information.

Btw, Sidwell’s average number of NMSFs over the past 3 years is ~12 so the PP would still be wrong. You don’t have to care about the number of Sidwell’s NMSFs, but I care about accuracy. I will continue to correct the record where I see fit. You will deal.

NP. You’re either terribly insecure, anal, OCD or on the spectrum.

You don’t have to insult people with ASD or mental illness to get back at the PP.

Why do you think saying someone is on the spectrum is a good insult?

PP is clearly insecure.

The armchair psychologists on this thread are hilarious! Is it ASD, OCD, ABCD, or merely insecurity?!? 🤣

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Back to reality.

SJC is a great school, and it is well worth visiting and learning about its various programs (Benile and Scholars). As noted, it's larger many of the others, which is a plus to some and a negative to others. They recruit heavily for key sports so unless your child is truly exceptional keep that in mind. That said, they have lots of other sports and activities to consider, as well. Talk to some of the parents who have kids there (we know many), and they'll give it a big thumbs up. We know families whose kids got into GP, Gonzaga, Visi and SR and opted for SJC, so treating it like a second-class citizen is misguided.

And no, I don't have a child there (opted to go to a smaller school) or work there...

Does this mean if a kid isn't a stellar athlete, they're less likely to get in? Or are you saying that if kid is interested in sports but is just an average player, they may be disappointed to be left off varsity teams because so many spots will go to athletic recruits? Or do you mean that academics may be hindered because some kids are in the school just because of sports and may slow down other kids in the classroom?

It means a couple of things:

(i) for most sports, if you are not recruited, you likely won't make the team...and if you were to be one of the very few to make the team...you probably won't ever play in a Varsity game. Certain sports like crew, rugby and XCountry are minimal or no-cut sports; and

(ii) there are plenty of recruited athletes with less than stellar HPST scores...so, indirectly it does mean that it is harder for other non-athlete kids to get accepted. No different than how you would think about elite college admissions, although the overall acceptance rate of SJC is much higher.

There are plenty of honors and AP classes (you do have to do well in honors and get recommended for AP...you can't just register) for people of different academic abilities to be with their peers.

People overstate the number of "recruited" athletes at SJC. There are talented athletes. Most of them aren't "recruited." I don't really get your reasoning about HSPT scores. They are only one piece of the puzzle and not the most important one for admissions whether you are an athlete or not.

What's overstated? The entire baseball team in all years was essentially recruited...save for maybe 5 players total. So, that's 75 kids right there. I can't speak much for other sports, but I assume the coaches recruit many athletes in a similar fashion.

I don't understand how you are differentiating between a recruited athlete and a talented athlete. Recruited is the coach actually attended their middle school travel team games, gave them a private tour of the school, invited the kid to watch Wednesday intersquads (again, this is baseball), etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SJC is mentioned quite a bit, so not sure what you are talking about.

I assume you know it and other WCAC schools are considered sports powerhouses, so don't think your kid can just show up and play many sports if not recruited.

Solid academically, but not crazy amounts of homework. Produced 2 NMSFs this year vs. anywhere from 6-10 at GDS, Sidwell, STA just to give you some benchmark.

Good size...1200 kids total vs. 300 at STA, 600ish at Sidwell/GDS.

I’m chiming in to provide accurate information about Sidwell. Sidwell produced 11 NMSFs this year (the highest # I’ve seen at Sidwell, in recent memory, was 16). Sidwell has ~500 students in the US.

Sidwell has about 125 in the senior class with 11 NMSF for 2024-2025. That is 8%.

BIM has 24 in the senior class with 3 NMSF for 2024-2025. That is 12.5%

If you are looking for a great private school in the DMV, consider BIM. The school has been rated as the #1 private school in the DMV (Sidwell is #2).

https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-private-high-schools/m/washington-dc-metro-area/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SJC is mentioned quite a bit, so not sure what you are talking about.

I assume you know it and other WCAC schools are considered sports powerhouses, so don't think your kid can just show up and play many sports if not recruited.

Solid academically, but not crazy amounts of homework. Produced 2 NMSFs this year vs. anywhere from 6-10 at GDS, Sidwell, STA just to give you some benchmark.

Good size...1200 kids total vs. 300 at STA, 600ish at Sidwell/GDS.

Wait, wait. St Albans HS only have 300 boys?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SJC is mentioned quite a bit, so not sure what you are talking about.

I assume you know it and other WCAC schools are considered sports powerhouses, so don't think your kid can just show up and play many sports if not recruited.

Solid academically, but not crazy amounts of homework. Produced 2 NMSFs this year vs. anywhere from 6-10 at GDS, Sidwell, STA just to give you some benchmark.

Good size...1200 kids total vs. 300 at STA, 600ish at Sidwell/GDS.

I’m chiming in to provide accurate information about Sidwell. Sidwell produced 11 NMSFs this year (the highest # I’ve seen at Sidwell, in recent memory, was 16). Sidwell has ~500 students in the US.

Sidwell has about 125 in the senior class with 11 NMSF for 2024-2025. That is 8%.

BIM has 24 in the senior class with 3 NMSF for 2024-2025. That is 12.5%

If you are looking for a great private school in the DMV, consider BIM. The school has been rated as the #1 private school in the DMV (Sidwell is #2).

https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-private-high-schools/m/washington-dc-metro-area/

I don’t put much stock in Niche rankings (for obvious reasons). However, out of curiosity, what was BIM ranked in 2023? 2022 and earlier?

If you want to send your child to a bargain basement for-profit school (with a public charter pedigree), I’ll leave you to it. It appears that only about 25 families/year are interested in that…interesting experiment.
I wonder why? Actually, I don’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SJC is mentioned quite a bit, so not sure what you are talking about.

I assume you know it and other WCAC schools are considered sports powerhouses, so don't think your kid can just show up and play many sports if not recruited.

Solid academically, but not crazy amounts of homework. Produced 2 NMSFs this year vs. anywhere from 6-10 at GDS, Sidwell, STA just to give you some benchmark.

Good size...1200 kids total vs. 300 at STA, 600ish at Sidwell/GDS.

I’m chiming in to provide accurate information about Sidwell. Sidwell produced 11 NMSFs this year (the highest # I’ve seen at Sidwell, in recent memory, was 16). Sidwell has ~500 students in the US.

Sidwell has about 125 in the senior class with 11 NMSF for 2024-2025. That is 8%.

BIM has 24 in the senior class with 3 NMSF for 2024-2025. That is 12.5%

If you are looking for a great private school in the DMV, consider BIM. The school has been rated as the #1 private school in the DMV (Sidwell is #2).

https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-private-high-schools/m/washington-dc-metro-area/

Wow—impressive!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SJC is mentioned quite a bit, so not sure what you are talking about.

I assume you know it and other WCAC schools are considered sports powerhouses, so don't think your kid can just show up and play many sports if not recruited.

Solid academically, but not crazy amounts of homework. Produced 2 NMSFs this year vs. anywhere from 6-10 at GDS, Sidwell, STA just to give you some benchmark.

Good size...1200 kids total vs. 300 at STA, 600ish at Sidwell/GDS.

Wait, wait. St Albans HS only have 300 boys?

St Albans has less than 80 boys in each class. So about 300 is right for grades 9-12. (Why the surprise? What do you imagine it would be?)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SJC is mentioned quite a bit, so not sure what you are talking about.

I assume you know it and other WCAC schools are considered sports powerhouses, so don't think your kid can just show up and play many sports if not recruited.

Solid academically, but not crazy amounts of homework. Produced 2 NMSFs this year vs. anywhere from 6-10 at GDS, Sidwell, STA just to give you some benchmark.

Good size...1200 kids total vs. 300 at STA, 600ish at Sidwell/GDS.

I’m chiming in to provide accurate information about Sidwell. Sidwell produced 11 NMSFs this year (the highest # I’ve seen at Sidwell, in recent memory, was 16). Sidwell has ~500 students in the US.

Sidwell has about 125 in the senior class with 11 NMSF for 2024-2025. That is 8%.

BIM has 24 in the senior class with 3 NMSF for 2024-2025. That is 12.5%

If you are looking for a great private school in the DMV, consider BIM. The school has been rated as the #1 private school in the DMV (Sidwell is #2).

https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-private-high-schools/m/washington-dc-metro-area/

And BIM and SFS parents have the highest number of irrelevant posts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SJC is mentioned quite a bit, so not sure what you are talking about.

I assume you know it and other WCAC schools are considered sports powerhouses, so don't think your kid can just show up and play many sports if not recruited.

Solid academically, but not crazy amounts of homework. Produced 2 NMSFs this year vs. anywhere from 6-10 at GDS, Sidwell, STA just to give you some benchmark.

Good size...1200 kids total vs. 300 at STA, 600ish at Sidwell/GDS.

I’m chiming in to provide accurate information about Sidwell. Sidwell produced 11 NMSFs this year (the highest # I’ve seen at Sidwell, in recent memory, was 16). Sidwell has ~500 students in the US.

Sidwell has about 125 in the senior class with 11 NMSF for 2024-2025. That is 8%.

BIM has 24 in the senior class with 3 NMSF for 2024-2025. That is 12.5%

If you are looking for a great private school in the DMV, consider BIM. The school has been rated as the #1 private school in the DMV (Sidwell is #2).

https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-private-high-schools/m/washington-dc-metro-area/

I don’t put much stock in Niche rankings (for obvious reasons). However, out of curiosity, what was BIM ranked in 2023? 2022 and earlier?

If you want to send your child to a bargain basement for-profit school (with a public charter pedigree), I’ll leave you to it. It appears that only about 25 families/year are interested in that…interesting experiment.
I wonder why? Actually, I don’t.

That BIM booster manages to get a rise out of Sidwell parents every time. Well done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SJC is mentioned quite a bit, so not sure what you are talking about.

I assume you know it and other WCAC schools are considered sports powerhouses, so don't think your kid can just show up and play many sports if not recruited.

Solid academically, but not crazy amounts of homework. Produced 2 NMSFs this year vs. anywhere from 6-10 at GDS, Sidwell, STA just to give you some benchmark.

Good size...1200 kids total vs. 300 at STA, 600ish at Sidwell/GDS.

I’m chiming in to provide accurate information about Sidwell. Sidwell produced 11 NMSFs this year (the highest # I’ve seen at Sidwell, in recent memory, was 16). Sidwell has ~500 students in the US.

Sidwell has about 125 in the senior class with 11 NMSF for 2024-2025. That is 8%.

BIM has 24 in the senior class with 3 NMSF for 2024-2025. That is 12.5%

If you are looking for a great private school in the DMV, consider BIM. The school has been rated as the #1 private school in the DMV (Sidwell is #2).

https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-private-high-schools/m/washington-dc-metro-area/

I don’t put much stock in Niche rankings (for obvious reasons). However, out of curiosity, what was BIM ranked in 2023? 2022 and earlier?

If you want to send your child to a bargain basement for-profit school (with a public charter pedigree), I’ll leave you to it. It appears that only about 25 families/year are interested in that…interesting experiment.
I wonder why? Actually, I don’t.

That BIM booster manages to get a rise out of Sidwell parents every time. Well done.

It’s a funny battle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SJC is mentioned quite a bit, so not sure what you are talking about.

I assume you know it and other WCAC schools are considered sports powerhouses, so don't think your kid can just show up and play many sports if not recruited.

Solid academically, but not crazy amounts of homework. Produced 2 NMSFs this year vs. anywhere from 6-10 at GDS, Sidwell, STA just to give you some benchmark.

Good size...1200 kids total vs. 300 at STA, 600ish at Sidwell/GDS.

I’m chiming in to provide accurate information about Sidwell. Sidwell produced 11 NMSFs this year (the highest # I’ve seen at Sidwell, in recent memory, was 16). Sidwell has ~500 students in the US.

Sidwell has about 125 in the senior class with 11 NMSF for 2024-2025. That is 8%.

BIM has 24 in the senior class with 3 NMSF for 2024-2025. That is 12.5%

If you are looking for a great private school in the DMV, consider BIM. The school has been rated as the #1 private school in the DMV (Sidwell is #2).

https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-private-high-schools/m/washington-dc-metro-area/

I don’t put much stock in Niche rankings (for obvious reasons). However, out of curiosity, what was BIM ranked in 2023? 2022 and earlier?

If you want to send your child to a bargain basement for-profit school (with a public charter pedigree), I’ll leave you to it. It appears that only about 25 families/year are interested in that…interesting experiment.
I wonder why? Actually, I don’t.

That BIM booster manages to get a rise out of Sidwell parents every time. Well done.

It’s a funny battle.

That’s like saying Harvard is “battling” Northeastern. Only Northeastern would call it a competition/battle. Harvard would merely be annoyed that yet another inferior institution that tried to game irrelevant “rankings” (Northeastern) keeps mentioning its name to appear marginally relevant.
Stop riding superior schools’ coattails.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SJC is mentioned quite a bit, so not sure what you are talking about.

I assume you know it and other WCAC schools are considered sports powerhouses, so don't think your kid can just show up and play many sports if not recruited.

Solid academically, but not crazy amounts of homework. Produced 2 NMSFs this year vs. anywhere from 6-10 at GDS, Sidwell, STA just to give you some benchmark.

Good size...1200 kids total vs. 300 at STA, 600ish at Sidwell/GDS.

I’m chiming in to provide accurate information about Sidwell. Sidwell produced 11 NMSFs this year (the highest # I’ve seen at Sidwell, in recent memory, was 16). Sidwell has ~500 students in the US.

Sidwell has about 125 in the senior class with 11 NMSF for 2024-2025. That is 8%.

BIM has 24 in the senior class with 3 NMSF for 2024-2025. That is 12.5%

If you are looking for a great private school in the DMV, consider BIM. The school has been rated as the #1 private school in the DMV (Sidwell is #2).

https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-private-high-schools/m/washington-dc-metro-area/

I don’t put much stock in Niche rankings (for obvious reasons). However, out of curiosity, what was BIM ranked in 2023? 2022 and earlier?

If you want to send your child to a bargain basement for-profit school (with a public charter pedigree), I’ll leave you to it. It appears that only about 25 families/year are interested in that…interesting experiment.
I wonder why? Actually, I don’t.

That BIM booster manages to get a rise out of Sidwell parents every time. Well done.

It’s a funny battle.

That’s like saying Harvard is “battling” Northeastern. Only Northeastern would call it a competition/battle. Harvard would merely be annoyed that yet another inferior institution that tried to game irrelevant “rankings” (Northeastern) keeps mentioning its name to appear marginally relevant.
Stop riding superior schools’ coattails.

BIM poster, where are u? You keep getting a rise out of this person and it’s hysterical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SJC is mentioned quite a bit, so not sure what you are talking about.

I assume you know it and other WCAC schools are considered sports powerhouses, so don't think your kid can just show up and play many sports if not recruited.

Solid academically, but not crazy amounts of homework. Produced 2 NMSFs this year vs. anywhere from 6-10 at GDS, Sidwell, STA just to give you some benchmark.

Good size...1200 kids total vs. 300 at STA, 600ish at Sidwell/GDS.

I’m chiming in to provide accurate information about Sidwell. Sidwell produced 11 NMSFs this year (the highest # I’ve seen at Sidwell, in recent memory, was 16). Sidwell has ~500 students in the US.

Sidwell has about 125 in the senior class with 11 NMSF for 2024-2025. That is 8%.

BIM has 24 in the senior class with 3 NMSF for 2024-2025. That is 12.5%

If you are looking for a great private school in the DMV, consider BIM. The school has been rated as the #1 private school in the DMV (Sidwell is #2).

https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-private-high-schools/m/washington-dc-metro-area/

I don’t put much stock in Niche rankings (for obvious reasons). However, out of curiosity, what was BIM ranked in 2023? 2022 and earlier?

If you want to send your child to a bargain basement for-profit school (with a public charter pedigree), I’ll leave you to it. It appears that only about 25 families/year are interested in that…interesting experiment.
I wonder why? Actually, I don’t.

That BIM booster manages to get a rise out of Sidwell parents every time. Well done.

It’s a funny battle.

That’s like saying Harvard is “battling” Northeastern. Only Northeastern would call it a competition/battle. Harvard would merely be annoyed that yet another inferior institution that tried to game irrelevant “rankings” (Northeastern) keeps mentioning its name to appear marginally relevant.
Stop riding superior schools’ coattails.

The BIM poster’s work here is done. For today. We look forward to the next time the Sidwell parents just cannot help themselves. Again.