| We have two family members (one young and one old) who had zero side effects with Keppra. So not everyone gets the "rage". |
An EEG is a snapshot. Not unusual for it to not show seizure activity. |
OP, this is called "kindling." Abnormal pathways being excited (even if not tipping over to a full seizure) makes them more prone to the same behavior in the future. It's kind of like the electrical version of wearing ruts deeper in a mushy rod every time you fall into the same grooves The most patient friendly cite I can find is Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kindling_model_of_epilepsy |
| ""muddy road, not mushy rod |
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My kid has ESES. He did brain MRI scan, no damage and he has not had one seizure. He has nonstop brain activities all night long, and he has done 1 hour EEG & 12 hours EEG showing same abormal nonstop activities. He has diagnosis of anxiety, autism level 1 and adhd, unmedicated for anything yet. I always wonder if those are ESES triggered behavior. He had neuropsych evaluation showing 130 IQ with lack of attention. He does well in public school mainstream academically, does okay in rec. sports (poor in sports), and he has a few casual random friends.
We got ESES diagnosis, and got 2nd opinion confirming ESES. Because there have been "considered not much impact or delay or regression" on him, we have been holding off on trying medication for few years. We fpund out he had abnormal EEG when he was 2/3, covid hit, and he is 7 now still doing okay. We consider to put him on medication. Some pp mentions keppra, what is the side effects? We were recommended low dose steroid over 2-3 months including weaning time to kill the ESES in one strike (from children hospital). What do you think of steroid? We were told that we should expect to see great improvement or much differences if he is trying medication in his case. Any suggestion? |
Pp here. He sleeps through night for 10 hours. He is smart, active and happy. We found out he has ESES by luck because he grind his teeth at age 2, so went thru sleep study. |
OP here - I appreciate your reply. That is basically what the neurologist said about the pathways. Just hoping that the medicine prescribed will be effective for us 🤞🏼🤞🏼 |
OP here - Sounds similar to our story, although we haven't gotten a formal diagnosis of an epileptic condition, just focal seizures. Given the people who have commented here, and others I have seen elsewhere, it sounds like it's not a matter of "if" someone with abnormal brain activity will have a seizure, it's "when." That is why we decided to go with the medicine because I wouldn't ever forgive myself about something happening before beginning medicine, especially under the auspices that the medicine could mitigate further activity. |
OP, I am a longtime mom of a child with a seizure disorder. I understand this is all more than a little overwhelming. I STRONGLY echo the other posters who are telling you to follow the doctor's advice and put your child on medication, as recommended. Then you can seek a second opinion later WHILE your child is already on medication. There are so many reasons why you do not want to go against medical advice with this serious of a condition. For the second opinion, look for a pediatric neurologist who specializes in seizure disorders. I'm not sure what you mean by EEGs more often than not come back showing normal. Of course they do for the majority of people. But your child has had two EEGs and they were both abnormal. Also it's not at all unusual for a child with a seizure disorder not to have a seizure during the EEG. The EEGs are snapshots in time.They just show that your child did not have a seizure during the EEG, it does not definitively show that your child has not had a seizure at another time. What did the neurologist say about your child's reports of what they saw/how they feel? Are those consistent with seizure activity? Has the neurologist provided you with a specific diagnosis based on the EEG activity? As to whether the EEG would be normal if the patient is medicated for it - well, that depends. My child has been medicated for YEARS, and has had periodic EEGs over the years what were abnormal, and them more recently normal EEGs while on meds (but still abnormal when we trialed off of meds). You can achieve seizure control without a fully normal EEG. In addition to medication, there are other precautions you should take for a child with epilepsy. No unsupervised baths or swimming, no sleeping on top bunk, alert anyone who watches him as to plan of care if he has a seizure, have a health plan for school, maybe no bike riding. It's a lot to get your head around. epilepsy.com is a good resource. If you post your location, maybe others can suggest local groups. |
| Dear OP, just sending you good wishes as you sort through so many stressful decisions. I was diagnosed with epilepsy when I was 16 and was on meds for about 8 years. Then the Dr said I could go off the meds and I’ve been fine since (now 50+!). Just sharing this to reassure you that things can work out fine. I didn’t really like taking the meds but it was worth it bc, as others have mentioned, it trains your brain to not have a seizure. |
OP here - I really appreciate your thoughtful and thorough message! The EEGs coming back more often than not as normal was in response to someone else saying that, and it was just me saying "oh I didn't know that." No official diagnosis of an epileptic condition, just that kiddo is probably having focal seizures to some extent. We are on day 3 of Trileptal but are supposed to incrementally increase the dose over time. Kiddo just had a 30 minute meltdown with crying which has never happened before (well, not nearly that long, I should say). I had to tell myself a few times that it could be the medicine given it is literally supposed to change the way your brain behaves. Hopefully emotional incidents will be limited 😬 You aren't the first person to mention how your child has had normal EEGs but yet still has epilepsy, and the fact that my kid has had two and they've both come back as abnormal. I've been trying not to stress, even though it's hard. We've moved around a lot in the last few years and have homeschooled. We are planning to enter school in the Fall for the first time, and now I'm worried that this may all derail it. It's already going to be a huge adjustment and change to the usual, so my mind is just wandering with the "what ifs." I appreciate your reply!! |
OP here - I really appreciate your kind words! This has all been most unexpected by me so it's been a bit tough to wrap my head around. I initially went to the neurologist for motor tics and now have come out of the visits with probable seizures. I mean, in a way, I guess I'm glad I did anyways, because I'm really hoping that this is a situation where "we caught it early" and hope that the medicine can mitigate any future damage. I'm glad you have found peace with your brain! Wishing you all the best! |
You should keep track of the side effects and discuss them with your doctor. We did have s/e at first (emotional outburst) while taking a different med (Keppra) that were controlled with adding vitamin B6. And then later just went away without taking b6. Many many children with epilepsy go to school. You do need to alert the school and put a plan in place. The school nurse should be able to help with that. |
OP here - Yes, we will be starting at a new school on the Fall so I plan to meet with the administration beforehand and will definitely be asking about their epilepsy protocols and procedures. Thanks for your response! |