Is FET better than fresh?

[Anonymous]

Just had my negative results from my first fresh cycle and have one frozen embryo.
Should I wait this cycle? Should I go for it? I haven't spoken to my re yet so I don't know his opinion on this.
Thanks

[Anonymous]

My fresh cycle was also a bust and now I'm 4 weeks pregnant with a FET. I decided not to wait due to age. Also, there is some built in "wait time" with an FET because you have to wait for your period, start birth control, then start meds. It took about 5 weeks total once I got my period - Fresh cycle was July 5th and FET was Aug 24th. An FYI, Shady Grove has a study for those using FET and if you are enrolled they cover the cost of the meds and you get 300 dollars. It's a study looking to see the effects of vaginal inserts versus progesterone oil.

[Anonymous]

PP, do I have to be a SG patient to participate?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP, do I have to be a SG patient to participate?

I believe so since it is a clinical trial that is sponsored by them. It's called the Sustain Research study.

[Anonymous]

It will depend on your age and what program you are doing. Are you paying per cycle, have any insurance coverage, or in the shared risk? If shared risk I think you have to do FET. In other cases, they may recommend doing another fresh. I think the stats for fresh cycles used to be slightly better than frozen (at least when I was cycling 3 years ago), but they may have changed recently. I got my BFP from a frozen.

[Anonymous]

I went straight to fet from a negative fresh cycle and am now 13 weeks along.

[Anonymous]

I had two failed fresh and got a positive from my first FET. I waited a cycle in between.

[Anonymous]

First fresh cycle failed for me. Had one frozen from that leftover. Did a second fresh cycle to see if we could get more embryos and got 6 frozen from that cycle (decided not to do a fresh transfer). Transferred one of those embryos in an FET and now 21 weeks. My doctor (Frankfurter) insists that FET's are more successful now.

[Anonymous]

Firm believer in FET versus fresh ET after 2 failures with fresh we did a natural cycle FET and it hit. I didn't have to do birth control or anything until HCG then prog support, it was so much easier and less stressful that the stim IVF.

[Anonymous]

NP but do you know why FET is better than fresh? We're just starting, should I ask about only doing a FET instead of fresh first?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP but do you know why FET is better than fresh? We're just starting, should I ask about only doing a FET instead of fresh first?

IVF (induced superovulation) is an unnatural thing for your body created by levels of hormones that would never occur naturally. In a nutshell, the system is shocked and irritated which could be suboptimal for embryo implantation. FET involves lower levels of meds, no superovulation and creates better conditions for implantation. HOWEVER, if you read clinical policy bulletins for insurance companies, this course of action is still considered experimental, so the current medical thinking is not 100% on board with it due to the lack of large scale double blind controlled randomized studies on this.

[Anonymous]

PP you said it best, and with FET you can do a medicated cycle so you can control date of ET or a natural cycle without all the hormones prior to ET. I think people get hung up on the fact that their future offspring is frozen, but stats prove that if they can survive all that manipulation they are healthy babies.

[Anonymous]

Just because they survive freeze and thaw doesn't mean normal embryos....I just miscarried after fet with great thaw rate and highest rating. It was chromosomally abnormal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP but do you know why FET is better than fresh? We're just starting, should I ask about only doing a FET instead of fresh first?

IVF (induced superovulation) is an unnatural thing for your body created by levels of hormones that would never occur naturally. In a nutshell, the system is shocked and irritated which could be suboptimal for embryo implantation. FET involves lower levels of meds, no superovulation and creates better conditions for implantation. HOWEVER, if you read clinical policy bulletins for insurance companies, this course of action is still considered experimental, so the current medical thinking is not 100% on board with it due to the lack of large scale double blind controlled randomized studies on this.

That should no longer be true as egg freezing is it is no longer considered experimental: https://www.fertilityauthority.com/articles/asrm-egg-freezing-no-longer-experimental ...that is, unless the insurance companies can get away with not following official word from the ASRM?

[Anonymous]

I guess it is once again hard to say. Everyone has a different experience and different issues going on that effect success with one or the other, I personally had success twice with fresh (1 live birth) and none with frozen, so there you go....