Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I guess the reason I don't have the same opinion as others is that I do not think Lively is lying. I think there may be multiple perspectives on what happened, but I don't think she made it up. I think her complaint is an honest accounting if her experience.

I can see how, if you think she's lying, it all seems very unfair -- the Deadpool parody, the cast freezing him out, the lawsuit.

But since I don't think she's lying, none of that seems unfair to me.

This is probably the best summary of everything. It’s why we can argue until we’re blue in the face, and gain no ground.

I think she twisted things to get him in trouble because she doesn’t like him. I think that’s why she gets so many people fired from things. She gets offended and she goes for blood. Here, it wasn’t as easy to get him fired—so she took a bunch of things that happened and added little flourishes to make it sound as sinister as possible. (I won’t rehash those.)

And it wasn’t enough when she got her way and he agreed to the list. For those who defend her, why wasn’t it enough?

I had a bad work situation (not SH but bullying) and reported my boss to HR. She was spoken to and almost fired. But she wasn’t—she claimed she acted badly because she was grappling with a mental health issue. I still have trust issues there, but it’s been a year and she has not bothered me since. And I have not continued some sort of campaign against her. I have treated her with respect. But Blake and Ryan couldn’t let it go. Why? What is going on there? There is something different about these two.

What about Baldoni's campaign against her? Your boss seems to have left you alone. If she had waged a campaign to ruin your reputation after that, you might have been inclined to sue her for the original harassment and retaliation. Lively originally tried to go HR and Sony with her claims then had her famous meeting. It seems she tried to keep the alleged harassment private until he hired crisis PR against her.

I was asking about Lively’s behavior.

[Anonymous]

Just leave it to the courts to figure it out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess the reason I don't have the same opinion as others is that I do not think Lively is lying. I think there may be multiple perspectives on what happened, but I don't think she made it up. I think her complaint is an honest accounting if her experience.

I can see how, if you think she's lying, it all seems very unfair -- the Deadpool parody, the cast freezing him out, the lawsuit.

But since I don't think she's lying, none of that seems unfair to me.

This is probably the best summary of everything. It’s why we can argue until we’re blue in the face, and gain no ground.

I think she twisted things to get him in trouble because she doesn’t like him. I think that’s why she gets so many people fired from things. She gets offended and she goes for blood. Here, it wasn’t as easy to get him fired—so she took a bunch of things that happened and added little flourishes to make it sound as sinister as possible. (I won’t rehash those.)

And it wasn’t enough when she got her way and he agreed to the list. For those who defend her, why wasn’t it enough?

I had a bad work situation (not SH but bullying) and reported my boss to HR. She was spoken to and almost fired. But she wasn’t—she claimed she acted badly because she was grappling with a mental health issue. I still have trust issues there, but it’s been a year and she has not bothered me since. And I have not continued some sort of campaign against her. I have treated her with respect. But Blake and Ryan couldn’t let it go. Why? What is going on there? There is something different about these two.

What about Baldoni's campaign against her? Your boss seems to have left you alone. If she had waged a campaign to ruin your reputation after that, you might have been inclined to sue her for the original harassment and retaliation. Lively originally tried to go HR and Sony with her claims then had her famous meeting. It seems she tried to keep the alleged harassment private until he hired crisis PR against her.

I was asking about Lively’s behavior.

And my answer was her behavior was a reaction to his move.

[Anonymous]

PP who ranted about other more stylish mom actresses than BL.

Saw the SAG pics from last night. Brooke is almost 60, 6ft tall, 2 kids, actress/model/public eye since a kid and nails East Coast class. Just nails it. Look at her Instagram. Whether in jeans or out clamming, she and that hair and those eyebrows are what I consider Hollywood beautiful and classic. Blake has none of that —doesn’t come close to that level of sophistication. Did you see how sculpted she is! Pure grace and class.

And Keri Russell, that’s another mom of 3, actress, dancer, etc. She nailed it also. Not a big girl like Blake or Brooke, but so, so sophisticated and graceful. Married to an actor. Reese, Julia, Aniston and so many others, with kids and without, just look more polished and stylish than Blake. Even Sandra.

I know it may not seem super fair in comparison, but i think someone on here said that BL is a cultural icon or this great beauty. Nah. Too many other beauties in Hollywood that carry that mantle. But Blake is a little cute, like SoCal beach cute. But that’s where I would draw the line.

Just my opinion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess the reason I don't have the same opinion as others is that I do not think Lively is lying. I think there may be multiple perspectives on what happened, but I don't think she made it up. I think her complaint is an honest accounting if her experience.

I can see how, if you think she's lying, it all seems very unfair -- the Deadpool parody, the cast freezing him out, the lawsuit.

But since I don't think she's lying, none of that seems unfair to me.

This is probably the best summary of everything. It’s why we can argue until we’re blue in the face, and gain no ground.

I think she twisted things to get him in trouble because she doesn’t like him. I think that’s why she gets so many people fired from things. She gets offended and she goes for blood. Here, it wasn’t as easy to get him fired—so she took a bunch of things that happened and added little flourishes to make it sound as sinister as possible. (I won’t rehash those.)

And it wasn’t enough when she got her way and he agreed to the list. For those who defend her, why wasn’t it enough?

I had a bad work situation (not SH but bullying) and reported my boss to HR. She was spoken to and almost fired. But she wasn’t—she claimed she acted badly because she was grappling with a mental health issue. I still have trust issues there, but it’s been a year and she has not bothered me since. And I have not continued some sort of campaign against her. I have treated her with respect. But Blake and Ryan couldn’t let it go. Why? What is going on there? There is something different about these two.

What about Baldoni's campaign against her? Your boss seems to have left you alone. If she had waged a campaign to ruin your reputation after that, you might have been inclined to sue her for the original harassment and retaliation. Lively originally tried to go HR and Sony with her claims then had her famous meeting. It seems she tried to keep the alleged harassment private until he hired crisis PR against her.

Not the PP you are responding to, for me the point is that Blake had grievances against wayfarer, they addressed them, nothing seemed to have happened again, and they moved on. Then filming and editing and everything stopped. It was time for the promotion, but blake didn’t stop. She had him kicked off the premier, she had his name taken off the poster and his image taken off it. This is all stuff I’m rehashing. Then there started to be rumors about fat shaming and a difficult set that I can’t imagine came from his team.

At the same time, Justin was being professional, seeing some really nice things about Blake and the saying that Blake should even direct the next film. Not saying one bad word against her.

Do you not see the difference here? She wasn’t stopping. There is a text that Justin sent his team that was like I don’t think she’s going to stop and I’m concerned. It was then that they decided to hire the firm. If she had left well enough alone, he would never have needed to hire a PR crisis firm. But nice she went out of control sabotage mode, inexplicably, even after getting everyone of her demands met. There is some speculation that they actually wanted him kicked off the next film.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess the reason I don't have the same opinion as others is that I do not think Lively is lying. I think there may be multiple perspectives on what happened, but I don't think she made it up. I think her complaint is an honest accounting if her experience.

I can see how, if you think she's lying, it all seems very unfair -- the Deadpool parody, the cast freezing him out, the lawsuit.

But since I don't think she's lying, none of that seems unfair to me.

This is probably the best summary of everything. It’s why we can argue until we’re blue in the face, and gain no ground.

I think she twisted things to get him in trouble because she doesn’t like him. I think that’s why she gets so many people fired from things. She gets offended and she goes for blood. Here, it wasn’t as easy to get him fired—so she took a bunch of things that happened and added little flourishes to make it sound as sinister as possible. (I won’t rehash those.)

And it wasn’t enough when she got her way and he agreed to the list. For those who defend her, why wasn’t it enough?

I had a bad work situation (not SH but bullying) and reported my boss to HR. She was spoken to and almost fired. But she wasn’t—she claimed she acted badly because she was grappling with a mental health issue. I still have trust issues there, but it’s been a year and she has not bothered me since. And I have not continued some sort of campaign against her. I have treated her with respect. But Blake and Ryan couldn’t let it go. Why? What is going on there? There is something different about these two.

What about Baldoni's campaign against her? Your boss seems to have left you alone. If she had waged a campaign to ruin your reputation after that, you might have been inclined to sue her for the original harassment and retaliation. Lively originally tried to go HR and Sony with her claims then had her famous meeting. It seems she tried to keep the alleged harassment private until he hired crisis PR against her.

Not the PP you are responding to, for me the point is that Blake had grievances against wayfarer, they addressed them, nothing seemed to have happened again, and they moved on. Then filming and editing and everything stopped. It was time for the promotion, but blake didn’t stop. She had him kicked off the premier, she had his name taken off the poster and his image taken off it. This is all stuff I’m rehashing. Then there started to be rumors about fat shaming and a difficult set that I can’t imagine came from his team.

At the same time, Justin was being professional, seeing some really nice things about Blake and the saying that Blake should even direct the next film. Not saying one bad word against her.

Do you not see the difference here? She wasn’t stopping. There is a text that Justin sent his team that was like I don’t think she’s going to stop and I’m concerned. It was then that they decided to hire the firm. If she had left well enough alone, he would never have needed to hire a PR crisis firm. But nice she went out of control sabotage mode, inexplicably, even after getting everyone of her demands met. There is some speculation that they actually wanted him kicked off the next film.

PP. Yeah, I guess that’s fair. I don't think she has clean hands. I hope we'll get more discovery around that. I don't really understand why she did that, as it doesn't seem to have helped her at all either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess the reason I don't have the same opinion as others is that I do not think Lively is lying. I think there may be multiple perspectives on what happened, but I don't think she made it up. I think her complaint is an honest accounting if her experience.

I can see how, if you think she's lying, it all seems very unfair -- the Deadpool parody, the cast freezing him out, the lawsuit.

But since I don't think she's lying, none of that seems unfair to me.

This is probably the best summary of everything. It’s why we can argue until we’re blue in the face, and gain no ground.

I think she twisted things to get him in trouble because she doesn’t like him. I think that’s why she gets so many people fired from things. She gets offended and she goes for blood. Here, it wasn’t as easy to get him fired—so she took a bunch of things that happened and added little flourishes to make it sound as sinister as possible. (I won’t rehash those.)

And it wasn’t enough when she got her way and he agreed to the list. For those who defend her, why wasn’t it enough?

I had a bad work situation (not SH but bullying) and reported my boss to HR. She was spoken to and almost fired. But she wasn’t—she claimed she acted badly because she was grappling with a mental health issue. I still have trust issues there, but it’s been a year and she has not bothered me since. And I have not continued some sort of campaign against her. I have treated her with respect. But Blake and Ryan couldn’t let it go. Why? What is going on there? There is something different about these two.

What about Baldoni's campaign against her? Your boss seems to have left you alone. If she had waged a campaign to ruin your reputation after that, you might have been inclined to sue her for the original harassment and retaliation. Lively originally tried to go HR and Sony with her claims then had her famous meeting. It seems she tried to keep the alleged harassment private until he hired crisis PR against her.

Not the PP you are responding to, for me the point is that Blake had grievances against wayfarer, they addressed them, nothing seemed to have happened again, and they moved on. Then filming and editing and everything stopped. It was time for the promotion, but blake didn’t stop. She had him kicked off the premier, she had his name taken off the poster and his image taken off it. This is all stuff I’m rehashing. Then there started to be rumors about fat shaming and a difficult set that I can’t imagine came from his team.

At the same time, Justin was being professional, seeing some really nice things about Blake and the saying that Blake should even direct the next film. Not saying one bad word against her.

Do you not see the difference here? She wasn’t stopping. There is a text that Justin sent his team that was like I don’t think she’s going to stop and I’m concerned. It was then that they decided to hire the firm. If she had left well enough alone, he would never have needed to hire a PR crisis firm. But nice she went out of control sabotage mode, inexplicably, even after getting everyone of her demands met. There is some speculation that they actually wanted him kicked off the next film.

PP. Yeah, I guess that’s fair. I don't think she has clean hands. I hope we'll get more discovery around that. I don't really understand why she did that, as it doesn't seem to have helped her at all either.

There is speculation that she was unprepared for the bad press and wanted to blame something or someone. It must be a conspiracy! Why don’t people like what I’m saying? They love me and Ryan. I’m Lady Deadpool. My hair care products are great! My team tells me I’m amazing. Even though celebrity beauty brands fail all the time and are way more likely to fail than to succeed statistically.

[Anonymous]

Baldoni's lawyers are asking again for the subpoenas to be quashed https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.93.0.pdf

They say Lively's counsel has agreed to withdraw requests for “All Documents”; “data logs”; (c) “cell site location information" but that the request for all call and texts logs remains overbroad, as it would make it possible to reverse lookup everyone they've been in contact with, including physicians, lawyers, family, and friends. They want it limited to only certain phone numbers. I've made similar arguments in this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just leave it to the courts to figure it out.

obviously it's fun to discuss!

[Anonymous]

So it seems like she didn’t like the THR article that was released this weekend:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/justin-baldoni-bahai-blake-lively-legal-feud-1236142565/

[Anonymous]

Whoever did the artwork made her look like Goliath…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Whoever did the artwork made her look like Goliath…

But she's holding the sling?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So it seems like she didn’t like the THR article that was released this weekend:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/justin-baldoni-bahai-blake-lively-legal-feud-1236142565/

According to … your butt, apparently! We’re not even pretending to cite real sources or be fair anymore lol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whoever did the artwork made her look like Goliath…

But she's holding the sling?

From the comments I think everyone reads into it as ambiguous or that BL is really the bully and not JB, or that JB is the victim, else why would she be so mad?

They drew her rather curvy and Amazon like. Just sayin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it seems like she didn’t like the THR article that was released this weekend:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/justin-baldoni-bahai-blake-lively-legal-feud-1236142565/

According to … your butt, apparently! We’re not even pretending to cite real sources or be fair anymore lol.

Maybe it’s according to the Reddit posters that Jed Wallace is paying.