3 Cases of Coronavirus Confirmed in MD

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Anonymous wrote:Weird, half a dozen hospitals in MoCo, PG, NW DC all on red status for ambulance diversion. What's using up all the ICU/ED bed space?

Keep in mind that smaller hospitals don’t always have true critical patients taking up ICU beds. Some patients just require frequent nursing checks (diabetic in DKA requiring frequent glucose checks even though glucose is coming down nicely on an insulin drip, patient with a possible head bleed who requires 1-2 hour neuro checks until they can get a repeat scan to rule out a real bleed, etc).

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Anonymous wrote:Weird, half a dozen hospitals in MoCo, PG, NW DC all on red status for ambulance diversion. What's using up all the ICU/ED bed space?

Keep in mind that smaller hospitals don’t always have true critical patients taking up ICU beds. Some patients just require frequent nursing checks (diabetic in DKA requiring frequent glucose checks even though glucose is coming down nicely on an insulin drip, patient with a possible head bleed who requires 1-2 hour neuro checks until they can get a repeat scan to rule out a real bleed, etc).

Once I was in the ICU over the weekend because no doctors were around to discharge me (and my that I mean put me a regular hospital room, not discharge me entirely. I dont know the right word for this)

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Anonymous wrote:Weird, half a dozen hospitals in MoCo, PG, NW DC all on red status for ambulance diversion. What's using up all the ICU/ED bed space?

Keep in mind that smaller hospitals don’t always have true critical patients taking up ICU beds. Some patients just require frequent nursing checks (diabetic in DKA requiring frequent glucose checks even though glucose is coming down nicely on an insulin drip, patient with a possible head bleed who requires 1-2 hour neuro checks until they can get a repeat scan to rule out a real bleed, etc).

Once I was in the ICU over the weekend because no doctors were around to discharge me (and my that I mean put me a regular hospital room, not discharge me entirely. I dont know the right word for this)

You mean transfer you to a regular hospital floor.

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Anonymous wrote:Weird, half a dozen hospitals in MoCo, PG, NW DC all on red status for ambulance diversion. What's using up all the ICU/ED bed space?

these flip on and off over time..

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how is that we know so much information about the ny corona cases, down to the city this man lives in and which synagogue he attends, but MD officials won't tell us anything about these three people in Montgomery County. At least tell us which city they reside in. I suppose they want to avoid a flood of calls coming into their health dept from people who live in close proximity, but the lack of information is strange.

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Anonymous wrote:A passenger from the Mexico voyage, Judy Cadiz of Lodi said she and her husband became ill afterward but did not give it much thought until learning a fellow traveler had died of the virus. Now they cannot get a straight answer about how to get tested, she said.

With Mark Cadiz, 65, running a fever, the couple worries not only about themselves, but about the possibility that — if they contracted the infection — they could have passed it on to others.

“They’re telling us to stay home, but nobody told me until yesterday to stay home. We were in Sacramento, we were in Martinez, we were in Oakland. We took a train home from the cruise,” Judy Cadiz said Thursday. “I really hope that we’re negative so nobody got infected.

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Oh sweet Jesus

I mean, they didn't knowingly do anything wrong.... they were on vacation, likely not paying any attention to news. They came home, felt ill, NOT unusual following travel.

Not paying attention to the news. That is knowingly doing something wrong.

Agree. You went on an international cruise and you weren't watching the news and updates on coronavirus. Just dumb.

They went to Mexico, not Asia or Italy. They had no reason to think they had coronavirus - especially during flu season.

They were on a cruise with infected people. The second you get on airplanes, cruises, etc... you are at risk

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Anonymous wrote:how is that we know so much information about the ny corona cases, down to the city this man lives in and which synagogue he attends, but MD officials won't tell us anything about these three people in Montgomery County. At least tell us which city they reside in. I suppose they want to avoid a flood of calls coming into their health dept from people who live in close proximity, but the lack of information is strange.

Of course. Because they are covering something up for sure. That either the CDC, the cruise, MD state, the patients, - someone messed up and it will come to be.

How about their flight home from Cali to here? Are they being notified. Haven't they all been out and about for weeks too?

I am not panicked about death/sickness. I am panicked at how terrible the government and CDC has been handling this and how quickly it could spread. Especially with these 3 cases. Something doesn't add up here.

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Anonymous wrote:A passenger from the Mexico voyage, Judy Cadiz of Lodi said she and her husband became ill afterward but did not give it much thought until learning a fellow traveler had died of the virus. Now they cannot get a straight answer about how to get tested, she said.

With Mark Cadiz, 65, running a fever, the couple worries not only about themselves, but about the possibility that — if they contracted the infection — they could have passed it on to others.

“They’re telling us to stay home, but nobody told me until yesterday to stay home. We were in Sacramento, we were in Martinez, we were in Oakland. We took a train home from the cruise,” Judy Cadiz said Thursday. “I really hope that we’re negative so nobody got infected.

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Oh sweet Jesus

I mean, they didn't knowingly do anything wrong.... they were on vacation, likely not paying any attention to news. They came home, felt ill, NOT unusual following travel.

Not paying attention to the news. That is knowingly doing something wrong.

Agree. You went on an international cruise and you weren't watching the news and updates on coronavirus. Just dumb.

They went to Mexico, not Asia or Italy. They had no reason to think they had coronavirus - especially during flu season.

So, then what lead them to go to a hospital to be tested then?

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Very little excess hospital capacity: EMS blue alert declared.

We aren't ready for 20% "severe" cases.

https://wjla.com/news/local/maryland-hospitals-code-yellow

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I've been thinking a lot about how Americans are just so short-sighted, when it comes to history. My mom was an older mom when she had me, and her mom was older when she had her, so I grew up hearing a lot of what most people consider ancient history.
Before antibiotics and vaccines (so especially before WWII), quarantines and similar were very ordinary parts of American life. My mom always complained that her HS graduation trip to NYC was cancelled because some sailors brought in some disease (now I can't remember which), and all travel to NYC was cancelled. She was home-quarantined at least once herself with a contagious childhood illness, and another time her mom and sibling were quarantined and she had to go live with a neighbor for weeks so she could still go to school. (The neighbor was an awful cook and my grandmother, who was immune to whatever it was, used to sneak out and leave cookies for her outside the window.) So less than 100 years ago, this was a very ordinary and expected part of life. They would put a quarantine notice on your door and there were penalties for breaking it.

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Anonymous wrote:A passenger from the Mexico voyage, Judy Cadiz of Lodi said she and her husband became ill afterward but did not give it much thought until learning a fellow traveler had died of the virus. Now they cannot get a straight answer about how to get tested, she said.

With Mark Cadiz, 65, running a fever, the couple worries not only about themselves, but about the possibility that — if they contracted the infection — they could have passed it on to others.

“They’re telling us to stay home, but nobody told me until yesterday to stay home. We were in Sacramento, we were in Martinez, we were in Oakland. We took a train home from the cruise,” Judy Cadiz said Thursday. “I really hope that we’re negative so nobody got infected.

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Oh sweet Jesus

I mean, they didn't knowingly do anything wrong.... they were on vacation, likely not paying any attention to news. They came home, felt ill, NOT unusual following travel.

Not paying attention to the news. That is knowingly doing something wrong.

Agree. You went on an international cruise and you weren't watching the news and updates on coronavirus. Just dumb.

They went to Mexico, not Asia or Italy. They had no reason to think they had coronavirus - especially during flu season.

So, then what lead them to go to a hospital to be tested then?

Someone from their cruise was reported as having died due to Covid-19. That made them want testing.
This story is really not that hard to follow...I don't know why people keep asking these questions. Lots of people cruised from SF to Mexico during a time when there were no reported cases of covid-19 in either of those locations. They disembarked 2/21. Several days later, one of the passengers died. Because the SoCal hospitals had some experience with Covid from the evacuees, they got her tested (shortly before or after she died) and confirmed Covid. When that hit the news, passengers who had already disembarked started to ask for testing for themselves. The CDC also started doing contact tracing of all people on that cruise, which is how they diagnosed the three people in MoCo MD, who do not appear to be sick enough to have even sought medical care. I still don't think they've tested everyone from that ship, as there were thousands on it and CDC has not run that many tests in total, so they must only be testing passengers that said that the had some symptoms of something. Really, no one on that cruise did anything wrong (unless you consider cruising to be morally wrong in and of itself, or any recreational travel to be morally wrong when a new virus is spreading).

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Anonymous wrote:A passenger from the Mexico voyage, Judy Cadiz of Lodi said she and her husband became ill afterward but did not give it much thought until learning a fellow traveler had died of the virus. Now they cannot get a straight answer about how to get tested, she said.

With Mark Cadiz, 65, running a fever, the couple worries not only about themselves, but about the possibility that — if they contracted the infection — they could have passed it on to others.

“They’re telling us to stay home, but nobody told me until yesterday to stay home. We were in Sacramento, we were in Martinez, we were in Oakland. We took a train home from the cruise,” Judy Cadiz said Thursday. “I really hope that we’re negative so nobody got infected.

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Oh sweet Jesus

I mean, they didn't knowingly do anything wrong.... they were on vacation, likely not paying any attention to news. They came home, felt ill, NOT unusual following travel.

Not paying attention to the news. That is knowingly doing something wrong.

Agree. You went on an international cruise and you weren't watching the news and updates on coronavirus. Just dumb.

They went to Mexico, not Asia or Italy. They had no reason to think they had coronavirus - especially during flu season.

So, then what lead them to go to a hospital to be tested then?

Someone from their cruise was reported as having died due to Covid-19. That made them want testing.
This story is really not that hard to follow...I don't know why people keep asking these questions. Lots of people cruised from SF to Mexico during a time when there were no reported cases of covid-19 in either of those locations. They disembarked 2/21. Several days later, one of the passengers died. Because the SoCal hospitals had some experience with Covid from the evacuees, they got her tested (shortly before or after she died) and confirmed Covid. When that hit the news, passengers who had already disembarked started to ask for testing for themselves. The CDC also started doing contact tracing of all people on that cruise, which is how they diagnosed the three people in MoCo MD, who do not appear to be sick enough to have even sought medical care. I still don't think they've tested everyone from that ship, as there were thousands on it and CDC has not run that many tests in total, so they must only be testing passengers that said that the had some symptoms of something. Really, no one on that cruise did anything wrong (unless you consider cruising to be morally wrong in and of itself, or any recreational travel to be morally wrong when a new virus is spreading).

I don't want to know the names, but has this been corroborated? Link? That they were on the Mexico cruise? Because this was my theory and people said they didn't disembark until Feb 21?? If they were on the Grand Princess, I bet MoCo was asked to keep it quiet because of the the lack of testing and so many out there to follow up on. There has been so much conflicting information.

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Anonymous wrote:A passenger from the Mexico voyage, Judy Cadiz of Lodi said she and her husband became ill afterward but did not give it much thought until learning a fellow traveler had died of the virus. Now they cannot get a straight answer about how to get tested, she said.

With Mark Cadiz, 65, running a fever, the couple worries not only about themselves, but about the possibility that — if they contracted the infection — they could have passed it on to others.

“They’re telling us to stay home, but nobody told me until yesterday to stay home. We were in Sacramento, we were in Martinez, we were in Oakland. We took a train home from the cruise,” Judy Cadiz said Thursday. “I really hope that we’re negative so nobody got infected.

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Oh sweet Jesus

I mean, they didn't knowingly do anything wrong.... they were on vacation, likely not paying any attention to news. They came home, felt ill, NOT unusual following travel.

Not paying attention to the news. That is knowingly doing something wrong.

If you have the ability to book travel, traipse around on planes/trains/boats and ubers [see Mexico] then you have the sense to not traipse after a cruise or go onshore when you just don't know...what to Corona cruise? Then each ship should not b allowed to dock and all have to stay on it until 14 days plus and no negative tests.

Meanwhile MOCO has decided that if schools close it will have some sites available for regional eating/free food. https://patch.com/maryland/silverspring/mcps-coronavirus-plan-remote-teaching-food-accommodations

MCPS also said it would make accommodations for those who need food.

"Depending on the length of time schools are closed, we are prepared to provide meals at several schools as regional meal sites. Information on the sites will be shared with the community once it is finalized," MCPS wrote[b]

That is nonsensical and are other countries or jurisdictions planning that? Box of non perishables dropped off for each FARMS student - 1 week supply makes sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Very little excess hospital capacity: EMS blue alert declared.

We aren't ready for 20% "severe" cases.

https://wjla.com/news/local/maryland-hospitals-code-yellow

How often does blue alert happen? Once a day? week? a month? Year?

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Despite the confirmed cases in MD, DC says Cherry Blossom festival is still on. Bowser is as bad as Trump:

“D.C. at this stage has no confirmed cases,” Mayor Muriel Bowser (D) said at a press conference, according to The Washington Post. “We are open for business and we expect to welcome thousands of people to our city over the next few weeks. But just know this: We are a world-class city and we have world-class preparedness as well.”

World class my ass.

https://thehill.com/homenews/news/486223-we-are-open-for-business-dc-national-cherry-blossom-festival-still-on-as