Succession - Season 4

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is Greg on the paper?

What pills were Roman taking off Logan’s desk towards the end in the meeting with Hugo and Karolina?

Why would Connor want his father’s apartment? This intrigues me that even though he was probably very neglected or loves by Logan he would want to buy Logan’s apartment.

Why is Willa’s mother still following Willa and Connor around?

Why did they include that Logan does soduku? Is there some deeper meaning to that?

Just that the kids didn’t really know him.

Or that there are always little things you don’t know about someone close to you that come to light when they die.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is Greg on the paper?

What pills were Roman taking off Logan’s desk towards the end in the meeting with Hugo and Karolina?

Why would Connor want his father’s apartment? This intrigues me that even though he was probably very neglected or loves by Logan he would want to buy Logan’s apartment.

Why is Willa’s mother still following Willa and Connor around?

Did Roman pop a few of those pills? I thought I saw that but I didn't rewind to make sure.

Yes. So whatever they were, it was something another person might want to take casually. He also “crunched” them rather than swallow whole, which I noticed because I’m on a lot of meds and they’re always terrible and I can’t imagine chewing one. That may or may not be a hint to the type of meds — it’s also possible the director had him chew to help make it more obvious that he was taking one.

Logan had that UTI last season and vitamin c is often recommended to prevent recurrent infection – and vitamin c is often chewable…

But I didn’t get a good look at the bottle to see if it was Rx or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is Greg on the paper?

What pills were Roman taking off Logan’s desk towards the end in the meeting with Hugo and Karolina?

Why would Connor want his father’s apartment? This intrigues me that even though he was probably very neglected or loves by Logan he would want to buy Logan’s apartment.

Why is Willa’s mother still following Willa and Connor around?

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Because they just got married yesterday- she was in town for the wedding- remember each episode is only one day. So the wedding was yesterday afternoon and now it’s the following morning. Makes total sense for the mother of the bride to still be there! There was probably supposed to be some sort of post- wedding brunch.

The mother of the bride would tag along to a meeting about his dead father/arrangements? I cannot imagine my mother doing that. Its a weird quirk they threw in there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m pretty rich and I don’t know anyone who got an amnio unless something came up on the earlier tests. Extra scans? Sure! But amnio has serious risks.

Yeah she was hoping it would lead to aborting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh snap! PPs bet wrong- both Kerri and Marcia back!

That was brutal, not that I minded. But for a twist of fate, the $63 million apartment could have been Kerri's in a matter of months. I would also Marcia would have an ironclad prenup in place, will be interesting to see how that pans out.

They showed her negotiating her post-nup after Logan's affair with the Holly Hunter character. We know it was very generous to Marcia.

Do you think she was honest when she said that her and Logan talked every day?

At first she said they talked every morning and afternoon... then to someone else she say they spoke intimately every night. She's full of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is Greg on the paper?

What pills were Roman taking off Logan’s desk towards the end in the meeting with Hugo and Karolina?

Why would Connor want his father’s apartment? This intrigues me that even though he was probably very neglected or loves by Logan he would want to buy Logan’s apartment.

Why is Willa’s mother still following Willa and Connor around?

m

Because they just got married yesterday- she was in town for the wedding- remember each episode is only one day. So the wedding was yesterday afternoon and now it’s the following morning. Makes total sense for the mother of the bride to still be there! There was probably supposed to be some sort of post- wedding brunch.

The mother of the bride would tag along to a meeting about his dead father/arrangements? I cannot imagine my mother doing that. Its a weird quirk they threw in there.

She wasn't there for the meeting, she was there for the wake. There were a lot of other people there that weren't going to the board meeting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is Greg on the paper?

What pills were Roman taking off Logan’s desk towards the end in the meeting with Hugo and Karolina?

Why would Connor want his father’s apartment? This intrigues me that even though he was probably very neglected or loves by Logan he would want to buy Logan’s apartment.

Why is Willa’s mother still following Willa and Connor around?

Why did they include that Logan does soduku? Is there some deeper meaning to that?

Just that the kids didn’t really know him.

It's exactly what Marcia was manipulating "I spoke to him twice and day" and "intimately." You could see Kendall was taken off guard by that "I was iced out," and made everyone question who is in the will, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m pretty rich and I don’t know anyone who got an amnio unless something came up on the earlier tests. Extra scans? Sure! But amnio has serious risks.

Wealth doesn't matter. If you're over 35 or have a problematic genetic history, amnio is recommended as a matter of course.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh snap! PPs bet wrong- both Kerri and Marcia back!

That was brutal, not that I minded. But for a twist of fate, the $63 million apartment could have been Kerri's in a matter of months. I would also Marcia would have an ironclad prenup in place, will be interesting to see how that pans out.

Say more. How was the apartment almost Kerri's?

NP but Logan was going to marry her in a few months - according to lies/truths he told Kerri.

I thought Logan and Marcia were still married?

He could have bought Marcia out of the marriage at any point, handled in a matter of days if the price were right. It's unclear how serious he really was about Kerri.

In the episode they mention they hadn’t seen each other in seven weeks. I had the impression a lot of time had passed but maybe I was wrong, or maybe they had been on/off for a while?

I hated the Kerri scene. They should have let her say farewell with the plane scene, which was amazing.

I think they wanted to show the family/Marcia humiliating her. "This is what happens to gold diggers, folks!"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh snap! PPs bet wrong- both Kerri and Marcia back!

That was brutal, not that I minded. But for a twist of fate, the $63 million apartment could have been Kerri's in a matter of months. I would also Marcia would have an ironclad prenup in place, will be interesting to see how that pans out.

They showed her negotiating her post-nup after Logan's affair with the Holly Hunter character. We know it was very generous to Marcia.

Do you think she was honest when she said that her and Logan talked every day?

Seriously? I are you this naïve or being sarcastic? This is all of them jockeying for $$ and importance. And Roman astutely made a joke about it. They all know she and Logan were living completely separate lives.

+100

Roman said “oh you were?” In a very sarcastic tone. They all know what she’s up to.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m pretty rich and I don’t know anyone who got an amnio unless something came up on the earlier tests. Extra scans? Sure! But amnio has serious risks.

Wealth doesn't matter. If you're over 35 or have a problematic genetic history, amnio is recommended as a matter of course.

Is this based on personal experience? I had my first at 37 and the doctor was very much of the opinion that it was up to me. There are less invasive tests with less definitive results, most people do those first and will only do amnio if something comes up, because amnio carries a risk of miscarriage. It's as high as 1 in 100 amnios result in miscarriage -- that's extremely high! So I did not get one after earlier tests were clear (and with no history of genetic abnormalities and no flags raised on my early ultrasounds).

However, I do think wealth plays a role. There is a difference between "pretty rich" and Shiv Roy. We're talking about the richest people in the world. As I mentioned earlier, Shiv is not just going to a regular OB. She's going to doctors who only service the ultra rich, probably do a lot via house call, likely sign NDAs before working with them, etc. Shiv can afford to pay for the doctor whose done 3000 amnios and never had a bad result, so if she wants to get an amnio and be assured of the most limited risk possible, she can. She's not a Big Law attorney, she's a billionaire.

These people are not like us, any of us. And that extends to healthcare, pregnancy, risk assessment, etc. They make decisions differently than we do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is Greg on the paper?

What pills were Roman taking off Logan’s desk towards the end in the meeting with Hugo and Karolina?

Why would Connor want his father’s apartment? This intrigues me that even though he was probably very neglected or loves by Logan he would want to buy Logan’s apartment.

Why is Willa’s mother still following Willa and Connor around?

Why did they include that Logan does soduku? Is there some deeper meaning to that?

Just that the kids didn’t really know him.

It's exactly what Marcia was manipulating "I spoke to him twice and day" and "intimately." You could see Kendall was taken off guard by that "I was iced out," and made everyone question who is in the will, etc.

Agree that's what Marcia is up to, but I think the real kicker her is that no one knew Logan. Not the kids, not Marcia, not Kerry, not any of the ex-wives. Remember he said Collin was his best friend? Collin didn't really know him either. He was an emotionally bankrupt person, possibly a psychopath -- he was ruthless, manipulative, greedy, unsympathetic and unempathetic in a way that not even his very terrible children are. He was probably an unknowable person and now they will all try to claim they know what he wanted or what he believed, but probably none of them really does. And there might not have been anything to know. A truly cold-hearted person like that... maybe there is no there there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m pretty rich and I don’t know anyone who got an amnio unless something came up on the earlier tests. Extra scans? Sure! But amnio has serious risks.

Wealth doesn't matter. If you're over 35 or have a problematic genetic history, amnio is recommended as a matter of course.

Is this based on personal experience? I had my first at 37 and the doctor was very much of the opinion that it was up to me. There are less invasive tests with less definitive results, most people do those first and will only do amnio if something comes up, because amnio carries a risk of miscarriage. It's as high as 1 in 100 amnios result in miscarriage -- that's extremely high! So I did not get one after earlier tests were clear (and with no history of genetic abnormalities and no flags raised on my early ultrasounds).

However, I do think wealth plays a role. There is a difference between "pretty rich" and Shiv Roy. We're talking about the richest people in the world. As I mentioned earlier, Shiv is not just going to a regular OB. She's going to doctors who only service the ultra rich, probably do a lot via house call, likely sign NDAs before working with them, etc. Shiv can afford to pay for the doctor whose done 3000 amnios and never had a bad result, so if she wants to get an amnio and be assured of the most limited risk possible, she can. She's not a Big Law attorney, she's a billionaire.

These people are not like us, any of us. And that extends to healthcare, pregnancy, risk assessment, etc. They make decisions differently than we do.

Yes, it's based on personal experience. I had my first at 33 and no amnio. I had my second at 35 and amnio was recommended.

But yes, extreme wealth can buy you docs who service the ultra rich. Or so I'm told.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m pretty rich and I don’t know anyone who got an amnio unless something came up on the earlier tests. Extra scans? Sure! But amnio has serious risks.

Wealth doesn't matter. If you're over 35 or have a problematic genetic history, amnio is recommended as a matter of course.

Is this based on personal experience? I had my first at 37 and the doctor was very much of the opinion that it was up to me. There are less invasive tests with less definitive results, most people do those first and will only do amnio if something comes up, because amnio carries a risk of miscarriage. It's as high as 1 in 100 amnios result in miscarriage -- that's extremely high! So I did not get one after earlier tests were clear (and with no history of genetic abnormalities and no flags raised on my early ultrasounds).

However, I do think wealth plays a role. There is a difference between "pretty rich" and Shiv Roy. We're talking about the richest people in the world. As I mentioned earlier, Shiv is not just going to a regular OB. She's going to doctors who only service the ultra rich, probably do a lot via house call, likely sign NDAs before working with them, etc. Shiv can afford to pay for the doctor whose done 3000 amnios and never had a bad result, so if she wants to get an amnio and be assured of the most limited risk possible, she can. She's not a Big Law attorney, she's a billionaire.

These people are not like us, any of us. And that extends to healthcare, pregnancy, risk assessment, etc. They make decisions differently than we do.

Yes, it's based on personal experience. I had my first at 33 and no amnio. I had my second at 35 and amnio was recommended.

But yes, extreme wealth can buy you docs who service the ultra rich. Or so I'm told.

PS, how old do we think the kids are? Assuming they were spaced pretty evenly apart, and the pictures tend to confirm that, I'd put Kendall in his early 40s. Which makes Roman in his late 40s (he doesn't look like it) and Shiv easily 35+.

[Anonymous]

Without making this into some sort of greys anatomy subplot, I listened to the Kara Swisher podcast with Sarah Snook on this episode. It’s more like the weirdest convo with your dr ever to convey that probably it wouldn’t be the worst thing in Shiv’s mind to have a medical reason to consider abortion but now that the amino has cleared up the prior test’s red flag(s) and indicated a healthy fetus, that -for lack of a better term - excuse to terminate is not there and so she continues with the pregnancy at a tough time in her life, as well as being someone who was mothered poorly herself and has no clue that she might be able to be a decent mother.