DCPS Improving -- Let's Ignore Charters

[Anonymous]

Good news for all of our DC politicians who go a tiny bit out of their way to say, "oh, yeah, I support charters too."

http://jaypgreene.com/2014/01/23/dc-district-schools-are-improving-fast-but-not-fast-enough-to-catch-dc-charters/

[Anonymous]

This is from 2014, what's your point?

[Anonymous]

I think DCPS is doing a great job making progress considering that, unlike charters, they can't IN ANY way "cherry pick" students. Or "counsel them out".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think DCPS is doing a great job making progress considering that, unlike charters, they can't IN ANY way "cherry pick" students. Or "counsel them out".

Or impose barriers to entry, such as only taking kids at certain entry times, or require parents to be savvy about a lottery months ahead of the start of school, or have enormous transportation hurdles.

Many DCPS schools in the poorest neighborhoods have kids from the most dysfunctional families, because any families that are savvy enough to leave, do so. Then the DCPS schools have an even harder time because their students have so many barriers to entry that the cycle continues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think DCPS is doing a great job making progress considering that, unlike charters, they can't IN ANY way "cherry pick" students. Or "counsel them out".

I agree progress is good in neighborhoods with money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think DCPS is doing a great job making progress considering that, unlike charters, they can't IN ANY way "cherry pick" students. Or "counsel them out".

Or impose barriers to entry, such as only taking kids at certain entry times, or require parents to be savvy about a lottery months ahead of the start of school, or have enormous transportation hurdles.
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Or paying people to stand in line overnight to get a good waitlist spot. Unbelievable that was ever allowed but I guess that's what made parents think they were getting a private school education for free.

[Anonymous]

Hi Kaya!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think DCPS is doing a great job making progress considering that, unlike charters, they can't IN ANY way "cherry pick" students. Or "counsel them out".

Out-of-boundary students can be sent back to their in-boundary school at the principal's discretion. Some principals use that power to "cherry pick" and "counsel out" students.

[Anonymous]

Or refuse to accept new students even if spots open up after count day thus avoiding the churn that most public non-charter schools deal with throughout the school year as students move into and out of the system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think DCPS is doing a great job making progress considering that, unlike charters, they can't IN ANY way "cherry pick" students. Or "counsel them out".

Or impose barriers to entry, such as only taking kids at certain entry times, or require parents to be savvy about a lottery months ahead of the start of school, or have enormous transportation hurdles.
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Or paying people to stand in line overnight to get a good waitlist spot. Unbelievable that was ever allowed but I guess that's what made parents think they were getting a private school education for free.

This happened at DCPS long before there were even charter schools. It is how my friends from Capitol Hill got their children into Oyster about 16-17 years ago (kid now a sophomore in college).

[Anonymous]

DCPS does a horrible job making kids safe in the classroom. The anti-bullying law is form without substance, no doubt due to influence from DCPS. DC would do best to give everyone a voucher to send their kids where they want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think DCPS is doing a great job making progress considering that, unlike charters, they can't IN ANY way "cherry pick" students. Or "counsel them out".

Out-of-boundary students can be sent back to their in-boundary school at the principal's discretion. Some principals use that power to "cherry pick" and "counsel out" students.

Technically, yes but at the elementary level this is rarely, if ever, done. Ive heard of it at Wilson in really egregious cases.

Dcps schools cannot cherry pick like the charters, not at all, especially with the new lottery system, its all very tightly controlled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think DCPS is doing a great job making progress considering that, unlike charters, they can't IN ANY way "cherry pick" students. Or "counsel them out".

Out-of-boundary students can be sent back to their in-boundary school at the principal's discretion. Some principals use that power to "cherry pick" and "counsel out" students.

Technically, yes but at the elementary level this is rarely, if ever, done. Ive heard of it at Wilson in really egregious cases.

Dcps schools cannot cherry pick like the charters, not at all, especially with the new lottery system, its all very tightly controlled.

Charters use the exact same lottery as DCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think DCPS is doing a great job making progress considering that, unlike charters, they can't IN ANY way "cherry pick" students. Or "counsel them out".

Out-of-boundary students can be sent back to their in-boundary school at the principal's discretion. Some principals use that power to "cherry pick" and "counsel out" students.

Technically, yes but at the elementary level this is rarely, if ever, done. Ive heard of it at Wilson in really egregious cases.

Dcps schools cannot cherry pick like the charters, not at all, especially with the new lottery system, its all very tightly controlled.

Charters use the exact same lottery as DCPS.

True. These folks are using national, not DC, attack lines on charters ("cherry picking" and "counseling out").

For DC critics, it's usually "parking in my neighborhood" and "kids from Maryland."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCPS does a horrible job making kids safe in the classroom. The anti-bullying law is form without substance, no doubt due to influence from DCPS. DC would do best to give everyone a voucher to send their kids where they want.

This is not restricted to DCPS. A kid in my child's HRCs (one of the ones where people stood outside overnight before they joined the common lottery) pulled out in the middle of the year because she was the target of assessing bullying. The charter school was not equipped or did not equip itself to handle the bullying. The kid will attend a new school for the 2015-16 school year.