2028 Girls Lacrosse

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Anonymous wrote:No comments on here for 5 days. That has to be a record!

Everyone was out drinking heavily at the 2028's dismal showings this past weekend....

No doubt there was some bad lacrosse played at AS by a couple of the DC/VA/MD 2028 teams, but this post from another thread is on target as far as I am concerned:

"It's become pretty obvious the past couple of years, is that other regions take American Select much more seriously. At the rising Junior age group, especially, it makes sense to bring a team together, practice, and try to get into the playoffs and get additional looks from college coaches, etc. But other regions are doing this all the way down to the 8th Graders.

DC-VA, and even Maryland, don't seem to really invest in American Select. No practices until the week or two before. The difference in intensity and effort around this event is noticeable, and honestly, seems like this area could put a better foot forward--regional pride or something."

2025's DC/VA won America Select. Maybe people on this board should stop comparing their daughters' class year to the 25's. That was an exceptional class. They also won School Girls and just lost in Highlight Division Championship at New Balance.

No. In 2021 when the 2025s were rising 9th graders they went 1-4, only winning their consolation game, which is exactly what the 2028s did over the weekend.

Are you really comparing one of the worst classes ever (2028s) to one of the best classes (2025s)? Stop using the 2025s as a future indicator for the success of the 27 and 28s.

What are we talking about here? 2028 is worst ever coast to coast? Midatlantic? DC/MD/VA? Just NoVa? American Select team only?

DC and the MD and VA counties around DC plus Loudon are the worst ever 2928 class. Huge drop off in talent from prior years (e.g., the 2025s).

Zero chance you can predict what's going to happen 900 years from now. None.

I think they were trying to say the 2025's were the greatest of all time. Even 900 years from now, people will read about them in ancient history books....

Yes, it will be the golden age of lacrosse in the DMV. The bad stepsister of the 2028s will not be remembered fondly in those same books!

What the current capital parents refuse to acknowledge is that the 2028 DMV class lost a lot of talent to Maryland teams. Capital needs to change its approach, because more than ever people are willing to drive to Maryland for a better option. The former pride/now capital parents are clinging to the over inflated #7 ranking like they are Jack clinging to the door on the titanic. This is not a class you can compare to other capital classes, because they lost more talent than any other year to Maryland early on.

2028 was a down year across the board and the reason why a handful of players went to MD. Still, enough players stayed and made Pride a highly competitive team, and history shows players who go on to Capital Blue will get recruited to great schools. As for the rankings, I didn't know math was inflatable - thought math was math. If we are to believe Pride doesn't deserve a #7 spot, it means the entire ranking system is fraudulent and unreliable. Can't question the math used for one without questioning the math used for all. Separately - all three major DMV clubs (Stars, Pride, BLC) at the 2029 level are top 25 and two at the 2030 level (BLC and YJMA) are top 20. Top players from these teams haven't moved to MD (and won't) because the 2029 year is clearly a stronger talent year. Capital will continue to thrive based on the strong talent pool in the DMV.

I am not convinced 2028 is a down year across the board. I feel confident that if the ~10 players who left for MD teams were instead on Next Level this year, for example, that would be a very good team - probably in the top 25. Similarly, if those ~10 were now playing for Capital you would be looking at a future top 5 team easily. The pool of talent is more spread out at 2028 for sure, but is it a down year across the board? Maybe that is indeed true, but I have not read any good arguments in favor. It's just a talking point as far as I am concerned - conventional wisdom.

There are maybe five DMV players on MD teams who are needle-movers. The others wouldn’t make Capital Blue.

Looking at who made the 28 Capital blue team, there’s maybe 1 or 2 players that would make a top Maryland team. All of the players that left for Maryland teams are better than who was chosen for the 28 blue team.

Except for the two or three exceptional players within a hundred miles of here, the players in this area are bunch of unremarkable interchangeable parts in the machines. Get off your high horses, many of you.

Don’t you belong watching film from your DD’s bottom bracket this summer?

They don’t even allow us to take video at the games in the dumpster brackets. Video is only allowed in the ELITE brackets, which as we all know, by the transitive property, are 100% stocked with ELITE players.

Careful. Sounds like you might be inferring this guy's daughter isn't elite. He's been assured that she is.

Cool story bro

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Anonymous wrote:No comments on here for 5 days. That has to be a record!

Everyone was out drinking heavily at the 2028's dismal showings this past weekend....

No doubt there was some bad lacrosse played at AS by a couple of the DC/VA/MD 2028 teams, but this post from another thread is on target as far as I am concerned:

"It's become pretty obvious the past couple of years, is that other regions take American Select much more seriously. At the rising Junior age group, especially, it makes sense to bring a team together, practice, and try to get into the playoffs and get additional looks from college coaches, etc. But other regions are doing this all the way down to the 8th Graders.

DC-VA, and even Maryland, don't seem to really invest in American Select. No practices until the week or two before. The difference in intensity and effort around this event is noticeable, and honestly, seems like this area could put a better foot forward--regional pride or something."

2025's DC/VA won America Select. Maybe people on this board should stop comparing their daughters' class year to the 25's. That was an exceptional class. They also won School Girls and just lost in Highlight Division Championship at New Balance.

No. In 2021 when the 2025s were rising 9th graders they went 1-4, only winning their consolation game, which is exactly what the 2028s did over the weekend.

Are you really comparing one of the worst classes ever (2028s) to one of the best classes (2025s)? Stop using the 2025s as a future indicator for the success of the 27 and 28s.

What are we talking about here? 2028 is worst ever coast to coast? Midatlantic? DC/MD/VA? Just NoVa? American Select team only?

DC and the MD and VA counties around DC plus Loudon are the worst ever 2928 class. Huge drop off in talent from prior years (e.g., the 2025s).

Zero chance you can predict what's going to happen 900 years from now. None.

I think they were trying to say the 2025's were the greatest of all time. Even 900 years from now, people will read about them in ancient history books....

Yes, it will be the golden age of lacrosse in the DMV. The bad stepsister of the 2028s will not be remembered fondly in those same books!

What the current capital parents refuse to acknowledge is that the 2028 DMV class lost a lot of talent to Maryland teams. Capital needs to change its approach, because more than ever people are willing to drive to Maryland for a better option. The former pride/now capital parents are clinging to the over inflated #7 ranking like they are Jack clinging to the door on the titanic. This is not a class you can compare to other capital classes, because they lost more talent than any other year to Maryland early on.

2028 was a down year across the board and the reason why a handful of players went to MD. Still, enough players stayed and made Pride a highly competitive team, and history shows players who go on to Capital Blue will get recruited to great schools. As for the rankings, I didn't know math was inflatable - thought math was math. If we are to believe Pride doesn't deserve a #7 spot, it means the entire ranking system is fraudulent and unreliable. Can't question the math used for one without questioning the math used for all. Separately - all three major DMV clubs (Stars, Pride, BLC) at the 2029 level are top 25 and two at the 2030 level (BLC and YJMA) are top 20. Top players from these teams haven't moved to MD (and won't) because the 2029 year is clearly a stronger talent year. Capital will continue to thrive based on the strong talent pool in the DMV.

I am not convinced 2028 is a down year across the board. I feel confident that if the ~10 players who left for MD teams were instead on Next Level this year, for example, that would be a very good team - probably in the top 25. Similarly, if those ~10 were now playing for Capital you would be looking at a future top 5 team easily. The pool of talent is more spread out at 2028 for sure, but is it a down year across the board? Maybe that is indeed true, but I have not read any good arguments in favor. It's just a talking point as far as I am concerned - conventional wisdom.

There are maybe five DMV players on MD teams who are needle-movers. The others wouldn’t make Capital Blue.

You are the obviously one who didn’t want the MD girls to come back because your daughter would have been on orange instead of blue. All of the starters on MD teams would have made blue

You proved the point: not all DMV players on MD teams are starters. Roughly half are. Non starters
would have a hard time making Capital Blue. We’re saying the same thing.

Way more than half are starters. But you probably don’t know that because you didn’t play in those brackets this summer

Then break it down for us since you’re so in the know.

We’re waiting

All at MnD and most at hero’s.

Not all are starters.

The village idiot is wrong again…

You get an A for staying on message but no matter how many times you say it, the facts don’t change.

Let’s hear the facts. We are waiting

Cool story bro

[Anonymous]

So did anyone ever come up with a club breakdown for the 28 Cap blue team?

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Anonymous wrote:So did anyone ever come up with a club breakdown for the 28 Cap blue team?

It does not seem there would be any upside in doing this.

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Anonymous wrote:So did anyone ever come up with a club breakdown for the 28 Cap blue team?

It does not seem there would be any upside in doing this.

What's the downside?

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Anonymous wrote:Honest question: is there a club, MD or otherwise, with a better recruiting record than Capital? I get that the other teams may be ranked higher depending on year, but strictly speaking about recruiting, I don’t know if there is a club that does better than Capital.

In the DC / MD / VA region, over the past three years:

* Capital Blue has sent 25 players to top 20 programs and 8 to ivies

* M&D Black has sent 18 players to top 20 programs and 2 to ivies

* Hero’s Green has sent 13 players to top 20 programs and 4 to ivies

* Coppermine has sent 0 players to top 20 programs and 0 players to ivies

Some players overlap both categories. Stats above and raw data (below) taken from what's available on Inside Lacrosse. Commits to ivies and top 20 programs were highlighted since players either choose strong academics or strong lacrosse schools. (Obviously there are many great academics represented; to avoid subjective interpretation of a strong academic school I differentiated top 20 v ivies only.)

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Capital Blue 2025s

Hopkins (2)
Stanford
Duke (2)
Dartmouth
VA Tech
UNC
Michigan
ND
Gettysburg
Marquette
FL
Cinci
Holy Cross

Top 20: 7
Ivies: 1

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Capital Blue 2024s

ND
Syracuse
Yale
Virginia
Princeton
Cornell
Louisville
Fairfield
Villanova
Colorado
Vanderbilt
Penn
JMU (2)
Butler
Denver
Stony Brook
UMass
UConn
PItt
St. Joe’s

Top 20 = 11
Ivies = 4

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Capital Blue 2023s

Northwestern
Michigan (2)
Virginia (2)
Georgetown
Hopkins
Richmond
Navy
Pitt
Colgate
Columbia
Brown
Princeton
Harvard
East Carolina
St. Joe’s (2)
Cinci
VCU

Top 20 = 7
Ivies = 4

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Hero’s Green 2025

Charlotte
ND
Vanderbilt
Maryland
Stony Brook
Mount St. Mary’s
Denver
American
Syracuse
S. Florida
Georgetown
VA Tech
Bryant
Manhattan

Top 20 = 5
Ivies = 0

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Hero’s Green 2024

Penn
Hofstra
VA Tech
Kent State
Harvard
VCU
Pitt
S. Florida
Monmouth
Delaware (2)
Loyola
Stanford
S. Florida
Clemson
VA Tech

Top 20 = 3
Ivies = 2

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Hero’s Green 2023

USC
S. Florida (2)
Fl Southern (2)
Yale
Rutgers
Florida (2)
High Point (2)
Princeton
San Diego State
ND
Clemson (2)
Queens
Jacksonville
Duke
New Hampshire
Towson

Top 20 = 5
Ivies = 2

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M&D Black 2025

Loyola
Clemson (3)
Yale
St. Joe’s
Stanford (2)
USC
FL Tech
UNC
ND
Pitt
Penn State
Stetson

Top 20 = 6
Ivies = 1

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M&D Black 2024

UNC (2)
Syracuse
Vanderbilt
ND
Mercer
Navy
AZ State
Louisville
Charlotte
Michigan
Loyola
Georgetown (2)
Florida
Duke
FL Southern

Top 20 = 7
Ivies = 0

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M&D Black 2023

Clemson (2)
Maryland (3)
Mt St Mary’s
VA Tech (2)
East Carolina
St. Joe’s (2)
Villanova
Denison
Boston University
Brown
Davidson
Hopkins (2)
URI
Frostburg State
Le Moyne

Top 20 = 5
Ivies = 1

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Coppermine Black 2025

Salisbury (2)
VCU

Top 20 = 0
Ivies = 0

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Coppermine Black 2024

Old Dominion
CNU
Wagner

Top 20 = 0
Ivies = 0

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Coppermine (only Blue info available) 2023

Longwood

Top 20 = 0
Ivies = 0

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Anonymous wrote:No comments on here for 5 days. That has to be a record!

Everyone was out drinking heavily at the 2028's dismal showings this past weekend....

No doubt there was some bad lacrosse played at AS by a couple of the DC/VA/MD 2028 teams, but this post from another thread is on target as far as I am concerned:

"It's become pretty obvious the past couple of years, is that other regions take American Select much more seriously. At the rising Junior age group, especially, it makes sense to bring a team together, practice, and try to get into the playoffs and get additional looks from college coaches, etc. But other regions are doing this all the way down to the 8th Graders.

DC-VA, and even Maryland, don't seem to really invest in American Select. No practices until the week or two before. The difference in intensity and effort around this event is noticeable, and honestly, seems like this area could put a better foot forward--regional pride or something."

2025's DC/VA won America Select. Maybe people on this board should stop comparing their daughters' class year to the 25's. That was an exceptional class. They also won School Girls and just lost in Highlight Division Championship at New Balance.

No. In 2021 when the 2025s were rising 9th graders they went 1-4, only winning their consolation game, which is exactly what the 2028s did over the weekend.

Are you really comparing one of the worst classes ever (2028s) to one of the best classes (2025s)? Stop using the 2025s as a future indicator for the success of the 27 and 28s.

What are we talking about here? 2028 is worst ever coast to coast? Midatlantic? DC/MD/VA? Just NoVa? American Select team only?

DC and the MD and VA counties around DC plus Loudon are the worst ever 2928 class. Huge drop off in talent from prior years (e.g., the 2025s).

Zero chance you can predict what's going to happen 900 years from now. None.

I think they were trying to say the 2025's were the greatest of all time. Even 900 years from now, people will read about them in ancient history books....

Yes, it will be the golden age of lacrosse in the DMV. The bad stepsister of the 2028s will not be remembered fondly in those same books!

What the current capital parents refuse to acknowledge is that the 2028 DMV class lost a lot of talent to Maryland teams. Capital needs to change its approach, because more than ever people are willing to drive to Maryland for a better option. The former pride/now capital parents are clinging to the over inflated #7 ranking like they are Jack clinging to the door on the titanic. This is not a class you can compare to other capital classes, because they lost more talent than any other year to Maryland early on.

2028 was a down year across the board and the reason why a handful of players went to MD. Still, enough players stayed and made Pride a highly competitive team, and history shows players who go on to Capital Blue will get recruited to great schools. As for the rankings, I didn't know math was inflatable - thought math was math. If we are to believe Pride doesn't deserve a #7 spot, it means the entire ranking system is fraudulent and unreliable. Can't question the math used for one without questioning the math used for all. Separately - all three major DMV clubs (Stars, Pride, BLC) at the 2029 level are top 25 and two at the 2030 level (BLC and YJMA) are top 20. Top players from these teams haven't moved to MD (and won't) because the 2029 year is clearly a stronger talent year. Capital will continue to thrive based on the strong talent pool in the DMV.

I am not convinced 2028 is a down year across the board. I feel confident that if the ~10 players who left for MD teams were instead on Next Level this year, for example, that would be a very good team - probably in the top 25. Similarly, if those ~10 were now playing for Capital you would be looking at a future top 5 team easily. The pool of talent is more spread out at 2028 for sure, but is it a down year across the board? Maybe that is indeed true, but I have not read any good arguments in favor. It's just a talking point as far as I am concerned - conventional wisdom.

There are maybe five DMV players on MD teams who are needle-movers. The others wouldn’t make Capital Blue.

Looking at who made the 28 Capital blue team, there’s maybe 1 or 2 players that would make a top Maryland team. All of the players that left for Maryland teams are better than who was chosen for the 28 blue team.

Except for the two or three exceptional players within a hundred miles of here, the players in this area are bunch of unremarkable interchangeable parts in the machines. Get off your high horses, many of you.

Don’t you belong watching film from your DD’s bottom bracket this summer?

They don’t even allow us to take video at the games in the dumpster brackets. Video is only allowed in the ELITE brackets, which as we all know, by the transitive property, are 100% stocked with ELITE players.

Careful. Sounds like you might be inferring this guy's daughter isn't elite. He's been assured that she is.

Cool story bro

Probably a website violation. You're at least 15-20 years too old to be using this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honest question: is there a club, MD or otherwise, with a better recruiting record than Capital? I get that the other teams may be ranked higher depending on year, but strictly speaking about recruiting, I don’t know if there is a club that does better than Capital.

In the DC / MD / VA region, over the past three years:

* Capital Blue has sent 25 players to top 20 programs and 8 to ivies

* M&D Black has sent 18 players to top 20 programs and 2 to ivies

* Hero’s Green has sent 13 players to top 20 programs and 4 to ivies

* Coppermine has sent 0 players to top 20 programs and 0 players to ivies

Some players overlap both categories. Stats above and raw data (below) taken from what's available on Inside Lacrosse. Commits to ivies and top 20 programs were highlighted since players either choose strong academics or strong lacrosse schools. (Obviously there are many great academics represented; to avoid subjective interpretation of a strong academic school I differentiated top 20 v ivies only.)

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Capital Blue 2025s

Hopkins (2)
Stanford
Duke (2)
Dartmouth
VA Tech
UNC
Michigan
ND
Gettysburg
Marquette
FL
Cinci
Holy Cross

Top 20: 7
Ivies: 1

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Capital Blue 2024s

ND
Syracuse
Yale
Virginia
Princeton
Cornell
Louisville
Fairfield
Villanova
Colorado
Vanderbilt
Penn
JMU (2)
Butler
Denver
Stony Brook
UMass
UConn
PItt
St. Joe’s

Top 20 = 11
Ivies = 4

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Capital Blue 2023s

Northwestern
Michigan (2)
Virginia (2)
Georgetown
Hopkins
Richmond
Navy
Pitt
Colgate
Columbia
Brown
Princeton
Harvard
East Carolina
St. Joe’s (2)
Cinci
VCU

Top 20 = 7
Ivies = 4

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Hero’s Green 2025

Charlotte
ND
Vanderbilt
Maryland
Stony Brook
Mount St. Mary’s
Denver
American
Syracuse
S. Florida
Georgetown
VA Tech
Bryant
Manhattan

Top 20 = 5
Ivies = 0

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Hero’s Green 2024

Penn
Hofstra
VA Tech
Kent State
Harvard
VCU
Pitt
S. Florida
Monmouth
Delaware (2)
Loyola
Stanford
S. Florida
Clemson
VA Tech

Top 20 = 3
Ivies = 2

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Hero’s Green 2023

USC
S. Florida (2)
Fl Southern (2)
Yale
Rutgers
Florida (2)
High Point (2)
Princeton
San Diego State
ND
Clemson (2)
Queens
Jacksonville
Duke
New Hampshire
Towson

Top 20 = 5
Ivies = 2

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M&D Black 2025

Loyola
Clemson (3)
Yale
St. Joe’s
Stanford (2)
USC
FL Tech
UNC
ND
Pitt
Penn State
Stetson

Top 20 = 6
Ivies = 1

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M&D Black 2024

UNC (2)
Syracuse
Vanderbilt
ND
Mercer
Navy
AZ State
Louisville
Charlotte
Michigan
Loyola
Georgetown (2)
Florida
Duke
FL Southern

Top 20 = 7
Ivies = 0

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M&D Black 2023

Clemson (2)
Maryland (3)
Mt St Mary’s
VA Tech (2)
East Carolina
St. Joe’s (2)
Villanova
Denison
Boston University
Brown
Davidson
Hopkins (2)
URI
Frostburg State
Le Moyne

Top 20 = 5
Ivies = 1

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Coppermine Black 2025

Salisbury (2)
VCU

Top 20 = 0
Ivies = 0

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Coppermine Black 2024

Old Dominion
CNU
Wagner

Top 20 = 0
Ivies = 0

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Coppermine (only Blue info available) 2023

Longwood

Top 20 = 0
Ivies = 0

This is some good work. Could DG be making a comeback? Have not seen anyone else put this much effort into a post.

[Anonymous]

Are the rankings based on last season or the year the player was recruited?

[Anonymous]

Last season (don’t have the strength to match year for year) but not sure it matters. Using most current ranking data shows the strength of the programs these players are either playing for now (or will soon join).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honest question: is there a club, MD or otherwise, with a better recruiting record than Capital? I get that the other teams may be ranked higher depending on year, but strictly speaking about recruiting, I don’t know if there is a club that does better than Capital.

In the DC / MD / VA region, over the past three years:

* Capital Blue has sent 25 players to top 20 programs and 8 to ivies

* M&D Black has sent 18 players to top 20 programs and 2 to ivies

* Hero’s Green has sent 13 players to top 20 programs and 4 to ivies

* Coppermine has sent 0 players to top 20 programs and 0 players to ivies

Some players overlap both categories. Stats above and raw data (below) taken from what's available on Inside Lacrosse. Commits to ivies and top 20 programs were highlighted since players either choose strong academics or strong lacrosse schools. (Obviously there are many great academics represented; to avoid subjective interpretation of a strong academic school I differentiated top 20 v ivies only.)

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Capital Blue 2025s

Hopkins (2)
Stanford
Duke (2)
Dartmouth
VA Tech
UNC
Michigan
ND
Gettysburg
Marquette
FL
Cinci
Holy Cross

Top 20: 7
Ivies: 1

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Capital Blue 2024s

ND
Syracuse
Yale
Virginia
Princeton
Cornell
Louisville
Fairfield
Villanova
Colorado
Vanderbilt
Penn
JMU (2)
Butler
Denver
Stony Brook
UMass
UConn
PItt
St. Joe’s

Top 20 = 11
Ivies = 4

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Capital Blue 2023s

Northwestern
Michigan (2)
Virginia (2)
Georgetown
Hopkins
Richmond
Navy
Pitt
Colgate
Columbia
Brown
Princeton
Harvard
East Carolina
St. Joe’s (2)
Cinci
VCU

Top 20 = 7
Ivies = 4

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Hero’s Green 2025

Charlotte
ND
Vanderbilt
Maryland
Stony Brook
Mount St. Mary’s
Denver
American
Syracuse
S. Florida
Georgetown
VA Tech
Bryant
Manhattan

Top 20 = 5
Ivies = 0

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Hero’s Green 2024

Penn
Hofstra
VA Tech
Kent State
Harvard
VCU
Pitt
S. Florida
Monmouth
Delaware (2)
Loyola
Stanford
S. Florida
Clemson
VA Tech

Top 20 = 3
Ivies = 2

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Hero’s Green 2023

USC
S. Florida (2)
Fl Southern (2)
Yale
Rutgers
Florida (2)
High Point (2)
Princeton
San Diego State
ND
Clemson (2)
Queens
Jacksonville
Duke
New Hampshire
Towson

Top 20 = 5
Ivies = 2

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M&D Black 2025

Loyola
Clemson (3)
Yale
St. Joe’s
Stanford (2)
USC
FL Tech
UNC
ND
Pitt
Penn State
Stetson

Top 20 = 6
Ivies = 1

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M&D Black 2024

UNC (2)
Syracuse
Vanderbilt
ND
Mercer
Navy
AZ State
Louisville
Charlotte
Michigan
Loyola
Georgetown (2)
Florida
Duke
FL Southern

Top 20 = 7
Ivies = 0

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M&D Black 2023

Clemson (2)
Maryland (3)
Mt St Mary’s
VA Tech (2)
East Carolina
St. Joe’s (2)
Villanova
Denison
Boston University
Brown
Davidson
Hopkins (2)
URI
Frostburg State
Le Moyne

Top 20 = 5
Ivies = 1

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Coppermine Black 2025

Salisbury (2)
VCU

Top 20 = 0
Ivies = 0

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Coppermine Black 2024

Old Dominion
CNU
Wagner

Top 20 = 0
Ivies = 0

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Coppermine (only Blue info available) 2023

Longwood

Top 20 = 0
Ivies = 0

Missed Capital 25 Blue:
Florida (2)
Naval Academy
Vanderbilt

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Honest question: is there a club, MD or otherwise, with a better recruiting record than Capital? I get that the other teams may be ranked higher depending on year, but strictly speaking about recruiting, I don’t know if there is a club that does better than Capital.

In the DC / MD / VA region, over the past three years:

* Capital Blue has sent 25 players to top 20 programs and 8 to ivies

* M&D Black has sent 18 players to top 20 programs and 2 to ivies

* Hero’s Green has sent 13 players to top 20 programs and 4 to ivies

* Coppermine has sent 0 players to top 20 programs and 0 players to ivies

Some players overlap both categories. Stats above and raw data (below) taken from what's available on Inside Lacrosse. Commits to ivies and top 20 programs were highlighted since players either choose strong academics or strong lacrosse schools. (Obviously there are many great academics represented; to avoid subjective interpretation of a strong academic school I differentiated top 20 v ivies only.)

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Capital Blue 2025s

Hopkins (2)
Stanford
Duke (2)
Dartmouth
VA Tech
UNC
Michigan
ND
Gettysburg
Marquette
FL
Cinci
Holy Cross

Top 20: 7
Ivies: 1

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Capital Blue 2024s

ND
Syracuse
Yale
Virginia
Princeton
Cornell
Louisville
Fairfield
Villanova
Colorado
Vanderbilt
Penn
JMU (2)
Butler
Denver
Stony Brook
UMass
UConn
PItt
St. Joe’s

Top 20 = 11
Ivies = 4

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Capital Blue 2023s

Northwestern
Michigan (2)
Virginia (2)
Georgetown
Hopkins
Richmond
Navy
Pitt
Colgate
Columbia
Brown
Princeton
Harvard
East Carolina
St. Joe’s (2)
Cinci
VCU

Top 20 = 7
Ivies = 4

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Hero’s Green 2025

Charlotte
ND
Vanderbilt
Maryland
Stony Brook
Mount St. Mary’s
Denver
American
Syracuse
S. Florida
Georgetown
VA Tech
Bryant
Manhattan

Top 20 = 5
Ivies = 0

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Hero’s Green 2024

Penn
Hofstra
VA Tech
Kent State
Harvard
VCU
Pitt
S. Florida
Monmouth
Delaware (2)
Loyola
Stanford
S. Florida
Clemson
VA Tech

Top 20 = 3
Ivies = 2

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Hero’s Green 2023

USC
S. Florida (2)
Fl Southern (2)
Yale
Rutgers
Florida (2)
High Point (2)
Princeton
San Diego State
ND
Clemson (2)
Queens
Jacksonville
Duke
New Hampshire
Towson

Top 20 = 5
Ivies = 2

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M&D Black 2025

Loyola
Clemson (3)
Yale
St. Joe’s
Stanford (2)
USC
FL Tech
UNC
ND
Pitt
Penn State
Stetson

Top 20 = 6
Ivies = 1

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M&D Black 2024

UNC (2)
Syracuse
Vanderbilt
ND
Mercer
Navy
AZ State
Louisville
Charlotte
Michigan
Loyola
Georgetown (2)
Florida
Duke
FL Southern

Top 20 = 7
Ivies = 0

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M&D Black 2023

Clemson (2)
Maryland (3)
Mt St Mary’s
VA Tech (2)
East Carolina
St. Joe’s (2)
Villanova
Denison
Boston University
Brown
Davidson
Hopkins (2)
URI
Frostburg State
Le Moyne

Top 20 = 5
Ivies = 1

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Coppermine Black 2025

Salisbury (2)
VCU

Top 20 = 0
Ivies = 0

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Coppermine Black 2024

Old Dominion
CNU
Wagner

Top 20 = 0
Ivies = 0

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Coppermine (only Blue info available) 2023

Longwood

Top 20 = 0
Ivies = 0

Missed Capital 25 Blue:
Florida (2)
Naval Academy
Vanderbilt

And Arizona State
And Colorado

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Anonymous wrote:No comments on here for 5 days. That has to be a record!

Everyone was out drinking heavily at the 2028's dismal showings this past weekend....

No doubt there was some bad lacrosse played at AS by a couple of the DC/VA/MD 2028 teams, but this post from another thread is on target as far as I am concerned:

"It's become pretty obvious the past couple of years, is that other regions take American Select much more seriously. At the rising Junior age group, especially, it makes sense to bring a team together, practice, and try to get into the playoffs and get additional looks from college coaches, etc. But other regions are doing this all the way down to the 8th Graders.

DC-VA, and even Maryland, don't seem to really invest in American Select. No practices until the week or two before. The difference in intensity and effort around this event is noticeable, and honestly, seems like this area could put a better foot forward--regional pride or something."

2025's DC/VA won America Select. Maybe people on this board should stop comparing their daughters' class year to the 25's. That was an exceptional class. They also won School Girls and just lost in Highlight Division Championship at New Balance.

No. In 2021 when the 2025s were rising 9th graders they went 1-4, only winning their consolation game, which is exactly what the 2028s did over the weekend.

Are you really comparing one of the worst classes ever (2028s) to one of the best classes (2025s)? Stop using the 2025s as a future indicator for the success of the 27 and 28s.

What are we talking about here? 2028 is worst ever coast to coast? Midatlantic? DC/MD/VA? Just NoVa? American Select team only?

DC and the MD and VA counties around DC plus Loudon are the worst ever 2928 class. Huge drop off in talent from prior years (e.g., the 2025s).

Zero chance you can predict what's going to happen 900 years from now. None.

I think they were trying to say the 2025's were the greatest of all time. Even 900 years from now, people will read about them in ancient history books....

Yes, it will be the golden age of lacrosse in the DMV. The bad stepsister of the 2028s will not be remembered fondly in those same books!

What the current capital parents refuse to acknowledge is that the 2028 DMV class lost a lot of talent to Maryland teams. Capital needs to change its approach, because more than ever people are willing to drive to Maryland for a better option. The former pride/now capital parents are clinging to the over inflated #7 ranking like they are Jack clinging to the door on the titanic. This is not a class you can compare to other capital classes, because they lost more talent than any other year to Maryland early on.

2028 was a down year across the board and the reason why a handful of players went to MD. Still, enough players stayed and made Pride a highly competitive team, and history shows players who go on to Capital Blue will get recruited to great schools. As for the rankings, I didn't know math was inflatable - thought math was math. If we are to believe Pride doesn't deserve a #7 spot, it means the entire ranking system is fraudulent and unreliable. Can't question the math used for one without questioning the math used for all. Separately - all three major DMV clubs (Stars, Pride, BLC) at the 2029 level are top 25 and two at the 2030 level (BLC and YJMA) are top 20. Top players from these teams haven't moved to MD (and won't) because the 2029 year is clearly a stronger talent year. Capital will continue to thrive based on the strong talent pool in the DMV.

I am not convinced 2028 is a down year across the board. I feel confident that if the ~10 players who left for MD teams were instead on Next Level this year, for example, that would be a very good team - probably in the top 25. Similarly, if those ~10 were now playing for Capital you would be looking at a future top 5 team easily. The pool of talent is more spread out at 2028 for sure, but is it a down year across the board? Maybe that is indeed true, but I have not read any good arguments in favor. It's just a talking point as far as I am concerned - conventional wisdom.

There are maybe five DMV players on MD teams who are needle-movers. The others wouldn’t make Capital Blue.

You are the obviously one who didn’t want the MD girls to come back because your daughter would have been on orange instead of blue. All of the starters on MD teams would have made blue

You proved the point: not all DMV players on MD teams are starters. Roughly half are. Non starters
would have a hard time making Capital Blue. We’re saying the same thing.

Way more than half are starters. But you probably don’t know that because you didn’t play in those brackets this summer

Then break it down for us since you’re so in the know.

We’re waiting

All at MnD and most at hero’s.

Also a player who just went to coppermine was a potential capital player who would have made blue

She only made CM because they are desperate for players. And she was not a definite for Blue at all.

Was this player formerly on another MD team?

I suggest a best practice for this forum would be to not talk about a specific kid in a negative way. Say nice things all you want. I appreciate the original post may have been a parent looking for recognition, but this is going nowhere good. Leave the kids out of this silliness, pretty please.

+1000.

Could not agree more re any specific player. Would also suggest that all of the recent comments on a specific team not being good are way too specific as well. A number of the girls read this forum, and while these negative posters are demonstrably wrong to date, likely way off for future performance, and plain mean-spirited--it doesn't mean that it doesn't have the potential to hurt feelings.

The folks making these posts need to look in the mirror.

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Anonymous wrote:Honest question: is there a club, MD or otherwise, with a better recruiting record than Capital? I get that the other teams may be ranked higher depending on year, but strictly speaking about recruiting, I don’t know if there is a club that does better than Capital.

In the DC / MD / VA region, over the past three years:

* Capital Blue has sent 25 players to top 20 programs and 8 to ivies

* M&D Black has sent 18 players to top 20 programs and 2 to ivies

* Hero’s Green has sent 13 players to top 20 programs and 4 to ivies

* Coppermine has sent 0 players to top 20 programs and 0 players to ivies

Some players overlap both categories. Stats above and raw data (below) taken from what's available on Inside Lacrosse. Commits to ivies and top 20 programs were highlighted since players either choose strong academics or strong lacrosse schools. (Obviously there are many great academics represented; to avoid subjective interpretation of a strong academic school I differentiated top 20 v ivies only.)

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Capital Blue 2025s

Hopkins (2)
Stanford
Duke (2)
Dartmouth
VA Tech
UNC
Michigan
ND
Gettysburg
Marquette
FL
Cinci
Holy Cross

Top 20: 7
Ivies: 1

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Capital Blue 2024s

ND
Syracuse
Yale
Virginia
Princeton
Cornell
Louisville
Fairfield
Villanova
Colorado
Vanderbilt
Penn
JMU (2)
Butler
Denver
Stony Brook
UMass
UConn
PItt
St. Joe’s

Top 20 = 11
Ivies = 4

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Capital Blue 2023s

Northwestern
Michigan (2)
Virginia (2)
Georgetown
Hopkins
Richmond
Navy
Pitt
Colgate
Columbia
Brown
Princeton
Harvard
East Carolina
St. Joe’s (2)
Cinci
VCU

Top 20 = 7
Ivies = 4

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Hero’s Green 2025

Charlotte
ND
Vanderbilt
Maryland
Stony Brook
Mount St. Mary’s
Denver
American
Syracuse
S. Florida
Georgetown
VA Tech
Bryant
Manhattan

Top 20 = 5
Ivies = 0

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Hero’s Green 2024

Penn
Hofstra
VA Tech
Kent State
Harvard
VCU
Pitt
S. Florida
Monmouth
Delaware (2)
Loyola
Stanford
S. Florida
Clemson
VA Tech

Top 20 = 3
Ivies = 2

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Hero’s Green 2023

USC
S. Florida (2)
Fl Southern (2)
Yale
Rutgers
Florida (2)
High Point (2)
Princeton
San Diego State
ND
Clemson (2)
Queens
Jacksonville
Duke
New Hampshire
Towson

Top 20 = 5
Ivies = 2

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M&D Black 2025

Loyola
Clemson (3)
Yale
St. Joe’s
Stanford (2)
USC
FL Tech
UNC
ND
Pitt
Penn State
Stetson

Top 20 = 6
Ivies = 1

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M&D Black 2024

UNC (2)
Syracuse
Vanderbilt
ND
Mercer
Navy
AZ State
Louisville
Charlotte
Michigan
Loyola
Georgetown (2)
Florida
Duke
FL Southern

Top 20 = 7
Ivies = 0

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M&D Black 2023

Clemson (2)
Maryland (3)
Mt St Mary’s
VA Tech (2)
East Carolina
St. Joe’s (2)
Villanova
Denison
Boston University
Brown
Davidson
Hopkins (2)
URI
Frostburg State
Le Moyne

Top 20 = 5
Ivies = 1

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Coppermine Black 2025

Salisbury (2)
VCU

Top 20 = 0
Ivies = 0

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Coppermine Black 2024

Old Dominion
CNU
Wagner

Top 20 = 0
Ivies = 0

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Coppermine (only Blue info available) 2023

Longwood

Top 20 = 0
Ivies = 0

Missed Capital 25 Blue:
Florida (2)
Naval Academy
Vanderbilt

And Arizona State
And Colorado

They won't have another class like that in 900 years.

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Anonymous wrote:Honest question: is there a club, MD or otherwise, with a better recruiting record than Capital? I get that the other teams may be ranked higher depending on year, but strictly speaking about recruiting, I don’t know if there is a club that does better than Capital.

In the DC / MD / VA region, over the past three years:

* Capital Blue has sent 25 players to top 20 programs and 8 to ivies

* M&D Black has sent 18 players to top 20 programs and 2 to ivies

* Hero’s Green has sent 13 players to top 20 programs and 4 to ivies

* Coppermine has sent 0 players to top 20 programs and 0 players to ivies

Some players overlap both categories. Stats above and raw data (below) taken from what's available on Inside Lacrosse. Commits to ivies and top 20 programs were highlighted since players either choose strong academics or strong lacrosse schools. (Obviously there are many great academics represented; to avoid subjective interpretation of a strong academic school I differentiated top 20 v ivies only.)

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Capital Blue 2025s

Hopkins (2)
Stanford
Duke (2)
Dartmouth
VA Tech
UNC
Michigan
ND
Gettysburg
Marquette
FL
Cinci
Holy Cross

Top 20: 7
Ivies: 1

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Capital Blue 2024s

ND
Syracuse
Yale
Virginia
Princeton
Cornell
Louisville
Fairfield
Villanova
Colorado
Vanderbilt
Penn
JMU (2)
Butler
Denver
Stony Brook
UMass
UConn
PItt
St. Joe’s

Top 20 = 11
Ivies = 4

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Capital Blue 2023s

Northwestern
Michigan (2)
Virginia (2)
Georgetown
Hopkins
Richmond
Navy
Pitt
Colgate
Columbia
Brown
Princeton
Harvard
East Carolina
St. Joe’s (2)
Cinci
VCU

Top 20 = 7
Ivies = 4

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Hero’s Green 2025

Charlotte
ND
Vanderbilt
Maryland
Stony Brook
Mount St. Mary’s
Denver
American
Syracuse
S. Florida
Georgetown
VA Tech
Bryant
Manhattan

Top 20 = 5
Ivies = 0

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Hero’s Green 2024

Penn
Hofstra
VA Tech
Kent State
Harvard
VCU
Pitt
S. Florida
Monmouth
Delaware (2)
Loyola
Stanford
S. Florida
Clemson
VA Tech

Top 20 = 3
Ivies = 2

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Hero’s Green 2023

USC
S. Florida (2)
Fl Southern (2)
Yale
Rutgers
Florida (2)
High Point (2)
Princeton
San Diego State
ND
Clemson (2)
Queens
Jacksonville
Duke
New Hampshire
Towson

Top 20 = 5
Ivies = 2

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M&D Black 2025

Loyola
Clemson (3)
Yale
St. Joe’s
Stanford (2)
USC
FL Tech
UNC
ND
Pitt
Penn State
Stetson

Top 20 = 6
Ivies = 1

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M&D Black 2024

UNC (2)
Syracuse
Vanderbilt
ND
Mercer
Navy
AZ State
Louisville
Charlotte
Michigan
Loyola
Georgetown (2)
Florida
Duke
FL Southern

Top 20 = 7
Ivies = 0

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M&D Black 2023

Clemson (2)
Maryland (3)
Mt St Mary’s
VA Tech (2)
East Carolina
St. Joe’s (2)
Villanova
Denison
Boston University
Brown
Davidson
Hopkins (2)
URI
Frostburg State
Le Moyne

Top 20 = 5
Ivies = 1

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Coppermine Black 2025

Salisbury (2)
VCU

Top 20 = 0
Ivies = 0

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Coppermine Black 2024

Old Dominion
CNU
Wagner

Top 20 = 0
Ivies = 0

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Coppermine (only Blue info available) 2023

Longwood

Top 20 = 0
Ivies = 0

Missed Capital 25 Blue:
Florida (2)
Naval Academy
Vanderbilt

And Arizona State
And Colorado

They won't have another class like that in 900 years.

They won’t have to (and will still dominate recruiting). Cap Blue 24 (ranked 15) will send +2 to top 20s and + 3 to ivies compared to Cap Blue 25 (ranked 2) — accounting for the two additional recruits to FL.