ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

It’s truly unbelievable how US Soccer seemingly made all of this somehow worse

[Anonymous]

We know where ECNL stands and we know where MLSN stands. I hope that US Club, US Youth Soccer and AYSO don’t wait until the spring to confirm they’ll be switching to SY in F26.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How does everyone STILL not understand how this works? The change to SY has been telegraphed for MONTHS now. You don't thank all your constituents for their hard work over the past few months and put out a questionnaire with two options for the change only to say oops sorry we're not gonna change. Remember, this is also all about $$$ for US soccer - and finances drive decision-making. The hit on finances since the change to BY are very clear. And NOW, they're release statistics showing a clear majority being against BY (59% are against BY) ... again, you don't do that only to say actually wait screw the majority we're gonna leave it as BY. This *is* happening, but just not overnight as some SY supporters had wished for. As a previous poster said ~100 pages ago, what you're seeing play out right now is change management by US soccer. Hell, they even use those words ("change management") in the official-looking PDF. Tell them what you're gonna tell them, tell them, then tell them what you told them. I get that US Soccer may not make decisions in a way that YOU'D make them if you were running a massive national enterprise, but what they're doing is VERY consistent with how large scale organizations make large scale changes: telegraphed, gradual, and (my guess) with finer and finer guidance as the months go along. In the end, to US Soccer's credit, the way they're playing this is going to look less like a directive from the enterprise and more-and-more like a decision that member organizations "came to on their own" given US Soccer putting their finger on the scale in the background. That, my friends, is change management at its best - when you want the change but you make constituents believe they decided on their own will to change.

Honestly I want to stop reading this damn thread but also secretly look forward to hitting 350 by Thanksgiving. This post gets us one comment closer!

I’m going to +1 you to get us even closer to 350!

Plus, I agree with what you wrote.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does everyone STILL not understand how this works? The change to SY has been telegraphed for MONTHS now. You don't thank all your constituents for their hard work over the past few months and put out a questionnaire with two options for the change only to say oops sorry we're not gonna change. Remember, this is also all about $$$ for US soccer - and finances drive decision-making. The hit on finances since the change to BY are very clear. And NOW, they're release statistics showing a clear majority being against BY (59% are against BY) ... again, you don't do that only to say actually wait screw the majority we're gonna leave it as BY. This *is* happening, but just not overnight as some SY supporters had wished for. As a previous poster said ~100 pages ago, what you're seeing play out right now is change management by US soccer. Hell, they even use those words ("change management") in the official-looking PDF. Tell them what you're gonna tell them, tell them, then tell them what you told them. I get that US Soccer may not make decisions in a way that YOU'D make them if you were running a massive national enterprise, but what they're doing is VERY consistent with how large scale organizations make large scale changes: telegraphed, gradual, and (my guess) with finer and finer guidance as the months go along. In the end, to US Soccer's credit, the way they're playing this is going to look less like a directive from the enterprise and more-and-more like a decision that member organizations "came to on their own" given US Soccer putting their finger on the scale in the background. That, my friends, is change management at its best - when you want the change but you make constituents believe they decided on their own will to change.

Honestly I want to stop reading this damn thread but also secretly look forward to hitting 350 by Thanksgiving. This post gets us one comment closer!

I’m going to +1 you to get us even closer to 350!

Plus, I agree with what you wrote.

+1 more. I agree its happening. I disagree with waiting until 26 to implement but anything sooner would apparently break the world order in US Soccer's view. Something else to consider is that US Soccer doesn't care about what's best for your household next year, they care about what's best for millions of households for the next 20 years. Waiting from Nov 2024 (now) to Spring 2026 (for when Fall 2026 tryouts and rostering typically occurs) is only 16 months which is not that long as a precursor to change that's anticipated to last for the next 20 years. They are thinking long term viability of the entire system, not whether a trapped player this year gets fixed for next year.

[Anonymous]

Over/under of 350 by Thanksgiving is a solid line. If it's a classic -110/+110 payout I would take the under. However if the Over is paying like +240 or more, I'm going with the Over. Recommend we create a parlay of the Over/Under with a real vs not-real determination of the US Soccer PDF. Under + NotReal probably like +130; Over + Real has to be like +290.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Honestly I want to stop reading this damn thread but also secretly look forward to hitting 350 by Thanksgiving. This post gets us one comment closer!

Thank you for your service.

[Anonymous]

350 by Thanksgiving!
350 by Thanksgiving!
350 by Thanksgiving!

It’s my new chant around the house.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Over/under of 350 by Thanksgiving is a solid line.

Don't tempt me. I'll drop another 'leak' and we'll have 400 by lunchtime. Every fake email is like chum in the water. So fun!

[Anonymous]

The roll out was absurd, but for us, it works out really well, assuming ECNL changes in 2026.

[Anonymous]

I just wish GA and ECNL would do something to get rid of the trapped season for next year. Waivers for 8th graders for 3 months!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We're definitely getting 400 now folks!! Told ya it was better to let BY'ers gloat for a bit before dropping the obvious hammer, lol!

Haha! Roll out the five stages of grief for the BY folks. No loss staying BY. My daughter is a beast and has played a grade up her whole life. Its weird but she figures it out.

When they go SY your 2012 Q1 kid is going to need a new team. It's a bit cruel but I don't feel bad because she was going to take your scholarship eventually. The sooner we stop lying to some of these kids the better.

Trash talking never ends well 😂

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s truly unbelievable how US Soccer seemingly made all of this somehow worse

No it isn't. It is run very poorly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s truly unbelievable how US Soccer seemingly made all of this somehow worse

How so?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The roll out was absurd, but for us, it works out really well, assuming ECNL changes in 2026.

Same here - my 2013 (5th grade) daughter is currently playing the pre-ECNL league and will get stick with her current team for the first year ECNL & 11 v 11. Then in fall 2026 she goes from the youngest to the oldest on the team with a year of 11 v 11 under her belt and still avoids the 8th grade trapped year in the future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s truly unbelievable how US Soccer seemingly made all of this somehow worse

How so?

Where’s the clarity? We have to now wait another 5 months and they’ve confirmed it will be different across all leagues. I am for SY, but at least under the BY structure there was consistency everywhere.