Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

But it still does not make sense. Even a supermarket that caters to a 100% food stamp clientele is still moving a ton of product and making good money. Are there other reasons such as theft/shoplifting that make the area unattractive?

On the first of the month. How about the rest of the time?

PP, there's a lot of research on food deserts, if you're interested in learning about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

But it still does not make sense. Even a supermarket that caters to a 100% food stamp clientele is still moving a ton of product and making good money. Are there other reasons such as theft/shoplifting that make the area unattractive?

On the first of the month. How about the rest of the time?

PP, there's a lot of research on food deserts, if you're interested in learning about it.

yes, it's crime and loss prevention. Bowser would need to incentives the supermarket chain, as well station police at the markets. The police would need authority to apprehend thieves (apprehending shoplifters is tricky in itself for security guards, due to various laws about when you can 'hold' people)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In a surprise move that is shameless even by Bowser standards, the mayor this afternoon submitted her aggressive pro-developer Comp Plan amendments to the DC Council, claiming that it provides the blueprint for DC to recover from the coronavirus crisis! Because nothing says public health like and social distancing like pushing big increases in height and density to build high end condos in SFH residential neighborhoods. And the mayor said it is urgent that the Council pass this developer giveaway soon - at a time when the Council is meeting virtually with no provision for public hearings.

As was the case with the draft proposals the final proposal does not include a proposed upzoning of a single family home zone anywhere in the city.

Now maybe it should as much of the city is zoned for single family homes and that would be a way to increase the supply and the local suburban jurisdictions mostly upzoned the lane near their Metro stations while DC never did but in this case the Office of Planning proposed no such upzonings.

So no one is coming for your single family home and you can relax.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In a surprise move that is shameless even by Bowser standards, the mayor this afternoon submitted her aggressive pro-developer Comp Plan amendments to the DC Council, claiming that it provides the blueprint for DC to recover from the coronavirus crisis! Because nothing says public health like and social distancing like pushing big increases in height and density to build high end condos in SFH residential neighborhoods. And the mayor said it is urgent that the Council pass this developer giveaway soon - at a time when the Council is meeting virtually with no provision for public hearings.

As was the case with the draft proposals the final proposal does not include a proposed upzoning of a single family home zone anywhere in the city.

Now maybe it should as much of the city is zoned for single family homes and that would be a way to increase the supply and the local suburban jurisdictions mostly upzoned the lane near their Metro stations while DC never did but in this case the Office of Planning proposed no such upzonings.

So no one is coming for your single family home and you can relax.

Hmmm...so you are maintaining that none of the buildings along Wisconsin Ave will be razed and have multiple stories of apartments added on top of a new storefront?

I am looking to avoid the walking down a canyon of glass feel that cities seem to be going for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In a surprise move that is shameless even by Bowser standards, the mayor this afternoon submitted her aggressive pro-developer Comp Plan amendments to the DC Council, claiming that it provides the blueprint for DC to recover from the coronavirus crisis! Because nothing says public health like and social distancing like pushing big increases in height and density to build high end condos in SFH residential neighborhoods. And the mayor said it is urgent that the Council pass this developer giveaway soon - at a time when the Council is meeting virtually with no provision for public hearings.

As was the case with the draft proposals the final proposal does not include a proposed upzoning of a single family home zone anywhere in the city.

Now maybe it should as much of the city is zoned for single family homes and that would be a way to increase the supply and the local suburban jurisdictions mostly upzoned the lane near their Metro stations while DC never did but in this case the Office of Planning proposed no such upzonings.

So no one is coming for your single family home and you can relax.

Hmmm...so you are maintaining that none of the buildings along Wisconsin Ave will be razed and have multiple stories of apartments added on top of a new storefront?

I am looking to avoid the walking down a canyon of glass feel that cities seem to be going for.

Are there a lot of people living in single-family houses with yards on Wisconsin Avenue?

If Wisconsin Avenue isn't the right place for apartments on top of street-level commercial use, where is?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In a surprise move that is shameless even by Bowser standards, the mayor this afternoon submitted her aggressive pro-developer Comp Plan amendments to the DC Council, claiming that it provides the blueprint for DC to recover from the coronavirus crisis! Because nothing says public health like and social distancing like pushing big increases in height and density to build high end condos in SFH residential neighborhoods. And the mayor said it is urgent that the Council pass this developer giveaway soon - at a time when the Council is meeting virtually with no provision for public hearings.

As was the case with the draft proposals the final proposal does not include a proposed upzoning of a single family home zone anywhere in the city.

Now maybe it should as much of the city is zoned for single family homes and that would be a way to increase the supply and the local suburban jurisdictions mostly upzoned the lane near their Metro stations while DC never did but in this case the Office of Planning proposed no such upzonings.

So no one is coming for your single family home and you can relax.

Hmmm...so you are maintaining that none of the buildings along Wisconsin Ave will be razed and have multiple stories of apartments added on top of a new storefront?

I am looking to avoid the walking down a canyon of glass feel that cities seem to be going for.

Are there a lot of people living in single-family houses with yards on Wisconsin Avenue?

If Wisconsin Avenue isn't the right place for apartments on top of street-level commercial use, where is?

Yes. There are lots of single family and multi family homes immediately adjacent to Wisconsin Ave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In a surprise move that is shameless even by Bowser standards, the mayor this afternoon submitted her aggressive pro-developer Comp Plan amendments to the DC Council, claiming that it provides the blueprint for DC to recover from the coronavirus crisis! Because nothing says public health like and social distancing like pushing big increases in height and density to build high end condos in SFH residential neighborhoods. And the mayor said it is urgent that the Council pass this developer giveaway soon - at a time when the Council is meeting virtually with no provision for public hearings.

As was the case with the draft proposals the final proposal does not include a proposed upzoning of a single family home zone anywhere in the city.

Now maybe it should as much of the city is zoned for single family homes and that would be a way to increase the supply and the local suburban jurisdictions mostly upzoned the lane near their Metro stations while DC never did but in this case the Office of Planning proposed no such upzonings.

So no one is coming for your single family home and you can relax.

Hmmm...so you are maintaining that none of the buildings along Wisconsin Ave will be razed and have multiple stories of apartments added on top of a new storefront?

I am looking to avoid the walking down a canyon of glass feel that cities seem to be going for.

Are there a lot of people living in single-family houses with yards on Wisconsin Avenue?

If Wisconsin Avenue isn't the right place for apartments on top of street-level commercial use, where is?

Yes. There are lots of single family and multi family homes immediately adjacent to Wisconsin Ave.

Right so as stated earlier no single family homes are being upzoned.

Also Wisconsin Ave is 120 feet from building to building and no buildings that tall are likely to get built so there is not going to be any sense of walking in a canyon but maybe you've never been in a canyon?

In Ward 3 the commercial corridors (Mass, Wisconsin, Connecticut) are all many blocks apart so the number of people who will even be able to see any new buildings will be very few and we don't need to speculate about this as Connecticut is mostly built out with buildings as tall as you'll get in any other area and that corridor is still a very desirable and nice one to live on and near with zero "canyon" like feel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In a surprise move that is shameless even by Bowser standards, the mayor this afternoon submitted her aggressive pro-developer Comp Plan amendments to the DC Council, claiming that it provides the blueprint for DC to recover from the coronavirus crisis! Because nothing says public health like and social distancing like pushing big increases in height and density to build high end condos in SFH residential neighborhoods. And the mayor said it is urgent that the Council pass this developer giveaway soon - at a time when the Council is meeting virtually with no provision for public hearings.

As was the case with the draft proposals the final proposal does not include a proposed upzoning of a single family home zone anywhere in the city.

Now maybe it should as much of the city is zoned for single family homes and that would be a way to increase the supply and the local suburban jurisdictions mostly upzoned the lane near their Metro stations while DC never did but in this case the Office of Planning proposed no such upzonings.

So no one is coming for your single family home and you can relax.

Hmmm...so you are maintaining that none of the buildings along Wisconsin Ave will be razed and have multiple stories of apartments added on top of a new storefront?

I am looking to avoid the walking down a canyon of glass feel that cities seem to be going for.

Are there a lot of people living in single-family houses with yards on Wisconsin Avenue?

If Wisconsin Avenue isn't the right place for apartments on top of street-level commercial use, where is?

Yes. There are lots of single family and multi family homes immediately adjacent to Wisconsin Ave.

The question wasn't about streets next to Wisconsin Ave. It was about Wisconsin Ave.

Are there a lot of people living in single-family houses with yards on Wisconsin Avenue?

[Anonymous]

The question wasn't about streets next to Wisconsin Ave. It was about Wisconsin Ave.

Are there a lot of people living in single-family houses with yards on Wisconsin Avenue?

Somebody keeps trying to answer you nicely. The answer is yes.

Yes. Si. Da.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

The question wasn't about streets next to Wisconsin Ave. It was about Wisconsin Ave.

Are there a lot of people living in single-family houses with yards on Wisconsin Avenue?

Somebody keeps trying to answer you nicely. The answer is yes.

Yes. Si. Da.

Where?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The question wasn't about streets next to Wisconsin Ave. It was about Wisconsin Ave.

Are there a lot of people living in single-family houses with yards on Wisconsin Avenue?

Somebody keeps trying to answer you nicely. The answer is yes.

Yes. Si. Da.

Where?

Dude/Dudette do you live in DC?

Wisconsin between Newark and Porter. I would have listed south of those, but those have already been redeveloped (no issues, just mentioning it because there is a perception that Ward 3 has not built any multi family housing. This section has been slammed with new multi family housing. Heck they even spun a house around to create room for a high rise.)

Anyway, you can walk down Wisconsin and see the single family housing and multi family housing. I think the PP was just saying that they did not want it to be built taller than it already is. I agree with them. Limit construction to the current height restrictions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The question wasn't about streets next to Wisconsin Ave. It was about Wisconsin Ave.

Are there a lot of people living in single-family houses with yards on Wisconsin Avenue?

Somebody keeps trying to answer you nicely. The answer is yes.

Yes. Si. Da.

Where?

Dude/Dudette do you live in DC?

Wisconsin between Newark and Porter. I would have listed south of those, but those have already been redeveloped (no issues, just mentioning it because there is a perception that Ward 3 has not built any multi family housing. This section has been slammed with new multi family housing. Heck they even spun a house around to create room for a high rise.)

Anyway, you can walk down Wisconsin and see the single family housing and multi family housing. I think the PP was just saying that they did not want it to be built taller than it already is. I agree with them. Limit construction to the current height restrictions.

You can count those houses on two hands.

The current height restrictions are not being changed - all that is happening is the zoning is allowing buildings as tall as those that already exist on Connecticut, Mass and New Mexico to built on Wisconsin Ave and some parts of Connecticut where building density is one category lower.

The nutjobs (or in the case of DCUM singular nutjob) keep screaming as if this is something radical or new for DC or even Ward 3 but it is not - in fact this level of density is both common and dates back almost 100 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The question wasn't about streets next to Wisconsin Ave. It was about Wisconsin Ave.

Are there a lot of people living in single-family houses with yards on Wisconsin Avenue?

Somebody keeps trying to answer you nicely. The answer is yes.

Yes. Si. Da.

Where?

Dude/Dudette do you live in DC?

Wisconsin between Newark and Porter. I would have listed south of those, but those have already been redeveloped (no issues, just mentioning it because there is a perception that Ward 3 has not built any multi family housing. This section has been slammed with new multi family housing. Heck they even spun a house around to create room for a high rise.)

Anyway, you can walk down Wisconsin and see the single family housing and multi family housing. I think the PP was just saying that they did not want it to be built taller than it already is. I agree with them. Limit construction to the current height restrictions.

So, <10 multi-family-use rowhouses plus another 2 detached houses, on one side of Wisconsin Ave, with apartment buildings across the street and commercial/institutional uses on either end.

Now, what are you objecting to, exactly?

[Anonymous]

Increasing density is an excellent way of spreading coronavirus, which we're likely to be dealing with for several more years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The question wasn't about streets next to Wisconsin Ave. It was about Wisconsin Ave.

Are there a lot of people living in single-family houses with yards on Wisconsin Avenue?

Somebody keeps trying to answer you nicely. The answer is yes.

Yes. Si. Da.

Where?

Dude/Dudette do you live in DC?

Wisconsin between Newark and Porter. I would have listed south of those, but those have already been redeveloped (no issues, just mentioning it because there is a perception that Ward 3 has not built any multi family housing. This section has been slammed with new multi family housing. Heck they even spun a house around to create room for a high rise.)

Anyway, you can walk down Wisconsin and see the single family housing and multi family housing. I think the PP was just saying that they did not want it to be built taller than it already is. I agree with them. Limit construction to the current height restrictions.

You can count those houses on two hands.

The current height restrictions are not being changed - all that is happening is the zoning is allowing buildings as tall as those that already exist on Connecticut, Mass and New Mexico to built on Wisconsin Ave and some parts of Connecticut where building density is one category lower.

The nutjobs (or in the case of DCUM singular nutjob) keep screaming as if this is something radical or new for DC or even Ward 3 but it is not - in fact this level of density is both common and dates back almost 100 years.

Hey previous example giver. Never give an example of anything on DCUM because others will nitpick it to death. They asked for one example and then castigated you for giving ten. Just not worth it.

Besides look at the bolded. The DCUM expert here claims nothing is changing as far as height restrictions. So you have that going for you.

Interestingly those villafying your examples have not given an example of what they feel ideal density is. They just want more. Somebody earlier suggested that perhaps the goal should be Ward 1 or Ward 2 density.

Anyway, I think that with the COVID slow down we are all happy that we are living here and not NYC. Is that because of the metro or world class hospitals or better delivery food. No, it is because of less density and less competition for resources.