What do you expect from APS staff (option/neighborhood) on 4/30?

[Anonymous]

I want immersion and walkability. I am of Spanish background and I speak Spanish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I want immersion and walkability. I am of Spanish background and I speak Spanish.

All of us want walkability and easily accessible choice programs. Unfortunately those two things tend to directly conflict with each other, so we have to set priorities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Look at the other map they published from the census. Lots of Spanish Speakers around Nottingham.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Language_ACS16_5Year_Count_Census.pdf

Are you planning to put teenagers into an elementary immersion program? That map looks at children 5-17, so roughly elementary through high school. The APS map pp shared reflects only the elementary-aged Spanish-speaking population in the area, which is the relevant consideration for this analysis.

Then why did APS decide to make it an appendix?

They are both relevant. Its about where spanish speaking families are. Right now the only kids impacted by this are maybe 2nd grade and below- more likely 1st grade and below.

I see that the Key parents who live near Key have switched to advocating for no changes whatsoever-
https://www.change.org/p/arlington-school-board-leave-all-elementary-schools-in-their-current-locations-and-change-boundaries?recruiter=279815821&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_message

That's such a dick move. We can debate which moves make the most sense, but the status quo is just terrible and something needs to change (even if that ends up being my school, which is on the table).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want immersion and walkability. I am of Spanish background and I speak Spanish.

All of us want walkability and easily accessible choice programs. Unfortunately those two things tend to directly conflict with each other, so we have to set priorities.

I hihhhly doubt all of us want choice programs, let alone easily accessible choice programs. Most people, I submit, want good neighborhood schools and walkability. As usual, in general, one has to live north and live rich to get it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want immersion and walkability. I am of Spanish background and I speak Spanish.

All of us want walkability and easily accessible choice programs. Unfortunately those two things tend to directly conflict with each other, so we have to set priorities.

I hihhhly doubt all of us want choice programs, let alone easily accessible choice programs. Most people, I submit, want good neighborhood schools and walkability. As usual, in general, one has to live north and live rich to get it.

^ highly

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

That's such a dick move. We can debate which moves make the most sense, but the status quo is just terrible and something needs to change (even if that ends up being my school, which is on the table).

I agree- it cries of desperation. Its also very unclear what they mean by status quo-- does that include ASFS and Key sharing a boundary, and ASFS being physically located outside the boundary??? What does that mean for the two new schools coming on line?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look at the other map they published from the census. Lots of Spanish Speakers around Nottingham.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Language_ACS16_5Year_Count_Census.pdf

Are you planning to put teenagers into an elementary immersion program? That map looks at children 5-17, so roughly elementary through high school. The APS map pp shared reflects only the elementary-aged Spanish-speaking population in the area, which is the relevant consideration for this analysis.

Then why did APS decide to make it an appendix?

They are both relevant. Its about where spanish speaking families are. Right now the only kids impacted by this are maybe 2nd grade and below- more likely 1st grade and below.

I see that the Key parents who live near Key have switched to advocating for no changes whatsoever-
https://www.change.org/p/arlington-school-board-leave-all-elementary-schools-in-their-current-locations-and-change-boundaries?recruiter=279815821&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_message

That's such a dick move. We can debate which moves make the most sense, but the status quo is just terrible and something needs to change (even if that ends up being my school, which is on the table).

One option is to leave things “as is.” Makes sense to me. There’s no compelling reason for the other option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:


That's such a dick move. We can debate which moves make the most sense, but the status quo is just terrible and something needs to change (even if that ends up being my school, which is on the table).

I agree- it cries of desperation. Its also very unclear what they mean by status quo-- does that include ASFS and Key sharing a boundary, and ASFS being physically located outside the boundary??? What does that mean for the two new schools coming on line?

I believe it means "Leave us unchanged while our neighbors get split between ASFS and Taylor, even though they don't have cars, because... uh... poor kids who don't have cars or neighborhood preference."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That's such a dick move. We can debate which moves make the most sense, but the status quo is just terrible and something needs to change (even if that ends up being my school, which is on the table).

I agree- it cries of desperation. Its also very unclear what they mean by status quo-- does that include ASFS and Key sharing a boundary, and ASFS being physically located outside the boundary??? What does that mean for the two new schools coming on line?

Not sure how it could mean that because Key is an option school next year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:


That's such a dick move. We can debate which moves make the most sense, but the status quo is just terrible and something needs to change (even if that ends up being my school, which is on the table).

I agree- it cries of desperation. Its also very unclear what they mean by status quo-- does that include ASFS and Key sharing a boundary, and ASFS being physically located outside the boundary??? What does that mean for the two new schools coming on line?

I believe it means "Leave us unchanged while our neighbors get split between ASFS and Taylor, even though they don't have cars, because... uh... poor kids who don't have cars or neighborhood preference."

So what are you doing for poor people who don’t have cars?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:


That's such a dick move. We can debate which moves make the most sense, but the status quo is just terrible and something needs to change (even if that ends up being my school, which is on the table).

I agree- it cries of desperation. Its also very unclear what they mean by status quo-- does that include ASFS and Key sharing a boundary, and ASFS being physically located outside the boundary??? What does that mean for the two new schools coming on line?

I believe it means "Leave us unchanged while our neighbors get split between ASFS and Taylor, even though they don't have cars, because... uh... poor kids who don't have cars or neighborhood preference."

So what are you doing for poor people who don’t have cars?

Neighborhood school at Key. Everybody gets to go!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That's such a dick move. We can debate which moves make the most sense, but the status quo is just terrible and something needs to change (even if that ends up being my school, which is on the table).

I agree- it cries of desperation. Its also very unclear what they mean by status quo-- does that include ASFS and Key sharing a boundary, and ASFS being physically located outside the boundary??? What does that mean for the two new schools coming on line?

What it would mean is that all of the option programs would stay in their current locations and then as Fleet and Reed open the neighborhood boundaries would be moved to accommodate them. It doesn't mean the boundaries around the current neighborhood schools will stay the same, those necessarily would have to change and would be a mess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look at the other map they published from the census. Lots of Spanish Speakers around Nottingham.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Language_ACS16_5Year_Count_Census.pdf

Are you planning to put teenagers into an elementary immersion program? That map looks at children 5-17, so roughly elementary through high school. The APS map pp shared reflects only the elementary-aged Spanish-speaking population in the area, which is the relevant consideration for this analysis.

Then why did APS decide to make it an appendix?

They are both relevant. Its about where spanish speaking families are. Right now the only kids impacted by this are maybe 2nd grade and below- more likely 1st grade and below.

I see that the Key parents who live near Key have switched to advocating for no changes whatsoever-
https://www.change.org/p/arlington-school-board-leave-all-elementary-schools-in-their-current-locations-and-change-boundaries?recruiter=279815821&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_message

That's such a dick move. We can debate which moves make the most sense, but the status quo is just terrible and something needs to change (even if that ends up being my school, which is on the table).

Good for them. No one on this board who isn’t a Key parent has the slightest clue how Key works, the families and students who make Key what it is, or anything else about Key. Key parents are advocating for Key the same as other parents are advocating for their schools and their children. If you think that’s a “dick move,” go suck an egg.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look at the other map they published from the census. Lots of Spanish Speakers around Nottingham.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Language_ACS16_5Year_Count_Census.pdf

Are you planning to put teenagers into an elementary immersion program? That map looks at children 5-17, so roughly elementary through high school. The APS map pp shared reflects only the elementary-aged Spanish-speaking population in the area, which is the relevant consideration for this analysis.

Then why did APS decide to make it an appendix?

They are both relevant. Its about where spanish speaking families are. Right now the only kids impacted by this are maybe 2nd grade and below- more likely 1st grade and below.

I see that the Key parents who live near Key have switched to advocating for no changes whatsoever-
https://www.change.org/p/arlington-school-board-leave-all-elementary-schools-in-their-current-locations-and-change-boundaries?recruiter=279815821&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_message

That's such a dick move. We can debate which moves make the most sense, but the status quo is just terrible and something needs to change (even if that ends up being my school, which is on the table).

Good for them. No one on this board who isn’t a Key parent has the slightest clue how Key works, the families and students who make Key what it is, or anything else about Key. Key parents are advocating for Key the same as other parents are advocating for their schools and their children. If you think that’s a “dick move,” go suck an egg.

That is such bullshit. Key had a perfectly fine petition going already advocating for Key to stay where it is. They could have stuck with that and simply advocated for themselves in the staff's process rather than throwing every other community that needs changes under the bus by advocating for nothing to change. This petition is is basically a big middle finger to the rest of Arlington, an overt statement that Key families that no one matters but them. Even Nottingham didn't go there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:


That's such a dick move. We can debate which moves make the most sense, but the status quo is just terrible and something needs to change (even if that ends up being my school, which is on the table).

I agree- it cries of desperation. Its also very unclear what they mean by status quo-- does that include ASFS and Key sharing a boundary, and ASFS being physically located outside the boundary??? What does that mean for the two new schools coming on line?

I believe it means "Leave us unchanged while our neighbors get split between ASFS and Taylor, even though they don't have cars, because... uh... poor kids who don't have cars or neighborhood preference."

So what are you doing for poor people who don’t have cars?

A lot of Key families would be very happy to see them move elsewhere. If keeping Key where it is encourages that, it's one more reason to fight for it.