VA MD DC Girls soccer - thoughts, opinions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any ECNL families, including Loudoun or VDA families care to comment on the proposed path for identifying players for their 2018-2019 teams?

VDA already held ID sessions according to their social media/website. Are they opening more general sessions for players to come out who didn't want or achieve selection at DA last year?

Is Loudoun doing anything different to recruit outside players?

Is BRYC going to hold open tryouts?

What about MYS? They hold open tryouts, right?

BRYC training sessions are open to new players now, only restriction is current ECNL players not allowed until May 1 per those rules. The day a player comes to train depends on the age group (it's not always Mondays). Info is on website.

The BRYC website says the ECNL ID is open for players born 2007-2000. Is this for an actual 2007 team or only players that would be capable of playing up on the ECNL 2006 team ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any ECNL families, including Loudoun or VDA families care to comment on the proposed path for identifying players for their 2018-2019 teams?

VDA already held ID sessions according to their social media/website. Are they opening more general sessions for players to come out who didn't want or achieve selection at DA last year?

Is Loudoun doing anything different to recruit outside players?

Is BRYC going to hold open tryouts?

What about MYS? They hold open tryouts, right?

BRYC training sessions are open to new players now, only restriction is current ECNL players not allowed until May 1 per those rules. The day a player comes to train depends on the age group (it's not always Mondays). Info is on website.

The BRYC website says the ECNL ID is open for players born 2007-2000. Is this for an actual 2007 team or only players that would be capable of playing up on the ECNL 2006 team ?

2007 would be pre-ECNL next year (U12) so those players are trying out for that team or could potentially play up if that was the right place for them developmentally

[Anonymous]

Anyone hear from GDA?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone hear from GDA?

Based on the info in this thread WS has already started recruiting.. I'd guess FCV is already moving out also.

[Anonymous]

What club around here actually develops its own players

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What club around here actually develops its own players

No club does. The club and team are just one piece of the important puzzle. Focus on the good aspects of the club, and try to avoid the bad aspects. Don't be bitter and bail and say all clubs are evil. Don't be a lemming and do everything your club says. Lay low, don't get heavily involved with the politics. Stay on the periphery, because that is where the rest of the puzzle will come from. Training on your own, in other clubs winter programs, in a summer camp or totally unrelated environment, etc., etc. The more you focus on that part of the puzzle, the more you will see development. Even a great team or great coach (something that if you find is of course a HUGE plus) will only take your player so far. The club even less, it is just there as a necessary, sometimes fun, often unfun, pre-requisite to developing with other good players (that often are friends of your player which makes it more "fun") in a lot of cases, but not all cases. I am talking mainly about the development from U8 to maybe U13-14 here. I think other variables come into play when older. But at the younger developing age just try to get as many challenges and experiences from as many different sources as possible. No one club gives you that, and don't buy the hype from the club. It helps if someone in your family understands or played soccer. You will meet a LOT of parents though that do the Buy-In, so as I said just stay on the fringes and don't get all wrapped up with them. Less time with the club's agenda and programming means more time to train, get touches, etc.

I think you will get a lot of different opinions on this from the personalities on this board though. People tend to go to extremes on this subject.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What club around here actually develops its own players

No club does. The club and team are just one piece of the important puzzle. Focus on the good aspects of the club, and try to avoid the bad aspects. Don't be bitter and bail and say all clubs are evil. Don't be a lemming and do everything your club says. Lay low, don't get heavily involved with the politics. Stay on the periphery, because that is where the rest of the puzzle will come from. Training on your own, in other clubs winter programs, in a summer camp or totally unrelated environment, etc., etc. The more you focus on that part of the puzzle, the more you will see development. Even a great team or great coach (something that if you find is of course a HUGE plus) will only take your player so far. The club even less, it is just there as a necessary, sometimes fun, often unfun, pre-requisite to developing with other good players (that often are friends of your player which makes it more "fun") in a lot of cases, but not all cases. I am talking mainly about the development from U8 to maybe U13-14 here. I think other variables come into play when older. But at the younger developing age just try to get as many challenges and experiences from as many different sources as possible. No one club gives you that, and don't buy the hype from the club. It helps if someone in your family understands or played soccer. You will meet a LOT of parents though that do the Buy-In, so as I said just stay on the fringes and don't get all wrapped up with them. Less time with the club's agenda and programming means more time to train, get touches, etc.

I think you will get a lot of different opinions on this from the personalities on this board though. People tend to go to extremes on this subject.

+1

Talk about rats following the club pied piper, we see parents signing their 9 year old Mia or Messi up for superY, indoor, winter training, speed & agility program (for elementary kids?), odp, summer camp, spring break camp - it's absolutely nuts spending over $6K a year on soccer at this age. They should be embarrassed, but instead act like it is some badge of honor and compare who is doing what. I never see them at pick up at the couple drop in fields near us. Their players seem the same even after all this. They never leave the club for anything and just act like they are loyal and doing what they are supposed to do.

Without this culture, I guess people wouldn't be focusing so much on which club is best.
There is no best club, why is that so hard?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What club around here actually develops its own players

Depends on the coach and the age of the players. Some coaches are not good with younger players and the other way around. At different ages you are teaching different things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What club around here actually develops its own players

No club does. The club and team are just one piece of the important puzzle. Focus on the good aspects of the club, and try to avoid the bad aspects. Don't be bitter and bail and say all clubs are evil. Don't be a lemming and do everything your club says. Lay low, don't get heavily involved with the politics. Stay on the periphery, because that is where the rest of the puzzle will come from. Training on your own, in other clubs winter programs, in a summer camp or totally unrelated environment, etc., etc. The more you focus on that part of the puzzle, the more you will see development. Even a great team or great coach (something that if you find is of course a HUGE plus) will only take your player so far. The club even less, it is just there as a necessary, sometimes fun, often unfun, pre-requisite to developing with other good players (that often are friends of your player which makes it more "fun") in a lot of cases, but not all cases. I am talking mainly about the development from U8 to maybe U13-14 here. I think other variables come into play when older. But at the younger developing age just try to get as many challenges and experiences from as many different sources as possible. No one club gives you that, and don't buy the hype from the club. It helps if someone in your family understands or played soccer. You will meet a LOT of parents though that do the Buy-In, so as I said just stay on the fringes and don't get all wrapped up with them. Less time with the club's agenda and programming means more time to train, get touches, etc.

I think you will get a lot of different opinions on this from the personalities on this board though. People tend to go to extremes on this subject.

+1

Talk about rats following the club pied piper, we see parents signing their 9 year old Mia or Messi up for superY, indoor, winter training, speed & agility program (for elementary kids?), odp, summer camp, spring break camp - it's absolutely nuts spending over $6K a year on soccer at this age. They should be embarrassed, but instead act like it is some badge of honor and compare who is doing what. I never see them at pick up at the couple drop in fields near us. Their players seem the same even after all this. They never leave the club for anything and just act like they are loyal and doing what they are supposed to do.

Without this culture, I guess people wouldn't be focusing so much on which club is best.
There is no best club, why is that so hard?

+1

There are too many lemmings in this area. All people can talk about is DA. It might as well be the latest Apple gadget.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What club around here actually develops its own players

No club does. The club and team are just one piece of the important puzzle. Focus on the good aspects of the club, and try to avoid the bad aspects. Don't be bitter and bail and say all clubs are evil. Don't be a lemming and do everything your club says. Lay low, don't get heavily involved with the politics. Stay on the periphery, because that is where the rest of the puzzle will come from. Training on your own, in other clubs winter programs, in a summer camp or totally unrelated environment, etc., etc. The more you focus on that part of the puzzle, the more you will see development. Even a great team or great coach (something that if you find is of course a HUGE plus) will only take your player so far. The club even less, it is just there as a necessary, sometimes fun, often unfun, pre-requisite to developing with other good players (that often are friends of your player which makes it more "fun") in a lot of cases, but not all cases. I am talking mainly about the development from U8 to maybe U13-14 here. I think other variables come into play when older. But at the younger developing age just try to get as many challenges and experiences from as many different sources as possible. No one club gives you that, and don't buy the hype from the club. It helps if someone in your family understands or played soccer. You will meet a LOT of parents though that do the Buy-In, so as I said just stay on the fringes and don't get all wrapped up with them. Less time with the club's agenda and programming means more time to train, get touches, etc.

I think you will get a lot of different opinions on this from the personalities on this board though. People tend to go to extremes on this subject.

This has always been our approach.

Not caring about Club politics or team placements or the other horseshit is so freeing. My kids (in that age range U10-U13) get their needs met from a VERY varied amount of things. We purposely do not sign up for all the Club has to offer. I find it doesn't vary much from regular season training anyways. And it is doldrums for the kids without a break from 'the same'. They need lots of different things and no one place can fill all of those needs. Variety in training, variety in coaching, variety of different players, being put in unfamiliar settings, learning to be the 'new' one, time off once in awhile, watching FIFA soccer on TV, etc. are all very important for a player.

[Anonymous]

I think Fcv develops its own players. Most of the weak spots on their DA teams come from the outside players that they took. The club is very tough evaluating their own players for sure. Then they regret it once the season starts because those players don’t play the ‘FcV way’. As a parent from the club for 7 years I’ve watched the games and within minutes been able to pick out players and ask ‘where did they come from’. It’s the decision making, holding the ball for more than 1 touch, large first touches. Things fcv players are taught from the beginning they should or shouldn’t do. Loudoun players and the style hasn’t been a great fit for them... thus Loudoun desire to do their own thing. The Loudoun style of soccer, while very successful, just isn’t the same style.

[Anonymous]

I watched FCV. Wasn't impressed. They are very low nationally. None of them getting call ups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I watched FCV. Wasn't impressed. They are very low nationally. None of them getting call ups.

They just had a U16 called up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I watched FCV. Wasn't impressed. They are very low nationally. None of them getting call ups.

Sounds like you're grading based the club based on the numbers of call-ups. By team standards they have qualified for playoffs in all 3 age groups, U-15, 16/17, 18/19.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I watched FCV. Wasn't impressed. They are very low nationally. None of them getting call ups.

Wups.
Sounds like you're grading the club based on the numbers of call-ups. By team standards they have qualified for playoffs in all 3 age groups, U-15, 16/17, 18/19.