Prepping/Scamming the Cogat

[Anonymous]

No. I worked hard after that. But I know many people that "blossomed" after adolescence. And I know a lot of people that burned out after HS. I will bet that the people that prep for the cogat will result many (not all) kids burning out, and losing interest.

I say let 7 yo's be yo's. AAP and TJ will not define success. Quality of life matters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I am happy for your success. Yes, there are rare cases like yours. That does not change the fact that early success and opportunity builds future success and continued opportunity. I am sure there are many who blew off their lives before 18 like you, who would have much better lives and success now had they not. In fact, I bet there are more in that category than in yours. Siting an "outlier" is only confusing the the real facts that govern the expected majority of outcomes.

In the US is is completely BS. If you go to scientific conference, you will discover a significant portion of the leading scientists (~40%) had some issues early in life, and blossomed late.

The human brain develops at a certain rate. I am confident that my early years of exploration rather than study have allowed for my excellence today. Had I been forced to study and prep, I would not have had the time to explore, and expand my curiosity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I am happy for your success. Yes, there are rare cases like yours. That does not change the fact that early success and opportunity builds future success and continued opportunity. I am sure there are many who blew off their lives before 18 like you, who would have much better lives and success now had they not. In fact, I bet there are more in that category than in yours. Siting an "outlier" is only confusing the the real facts that govern the expected majority of outcomes.

In the US is is completely BS. If you go to scientific conference, you will discover a significant portion of the leading scientists (~40%) had some issues early in life, and blossomed late.

The human brain develops at a certain rate. I am confident that my early years of exploration rather than study have allowed for my excellence today. Had I been forced to study and prep, I would not have had the time to explore, and expand my curiosity.

^ what is your field, if I may ask?

[Anonymous]

Heavy prepping/burning out kids - I think this is mostly parents with AAP borderline kids. I'm more focused on creativity, critical thinking and good judgements, and enjoying life.

I have three kids in AAP.
As far as prepping for those tests...
- One got in with no prepping.
- One got great scores on NNAT/CogAT without prepping. Got lousy GBRS and rejected. I got pissed, got sample WISC. Had DC looked at it once a couple of days before. 140+ and in.
- One got great scores on NNAT/CogAt. No prep on NNAT, but for CogAT, got a sample CogAT and had DC looked at it once a couple of days before. Got lousy GBRS, but the scores were great all across the board. Got in first round. All three thriving in classes and happy. No help needed. I have strong doubts on GBRS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I am happy for your success. Yes, there are rare cases like yours. That does not change the fact that early success and opportunity builds future success and continued opportunity. I am sure there are many who blew off their lives before 18 like you, who would have much better lives and success now had they not. In fact, I bet there are more in that category than in yours. Siting an "outlier" is only confusing the the real facts that govern the expected majority of outcomes.

In the US is is completely BS. If you go to scientific conference, you will discover a significant portion of the leading scientists (~40%) had some issues early in life, and blossomed late.

The human brain develops at a certain rate. I am confident that my early years of exploration rather than study have allowed for my excellence today. Had I been forced to study and prep, I would not have had the time to explore, and expand my curiosity.

^ what is your field, if I may ask?

You may ask, I will not say, as I will lose my position in an anonymous forum. There are about 30 people in my field locally, and about 1000 globally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Heavy prepping/burning out kids - I think this is mostly parents with AAP borderline kids. I'm more focused on creativity, critical thinking and good judgements, and enjoying life.

I have three kids in AAP.
As far as prepping for those tests...
- One got in with no prepping.
- One got great scores on NNAT/CogAT without prepping. Got lousy GBRS and rejected. I got pissed, got sample WISC. Had DC looked at it once a couple of days before. 140+ and in.
- One got great scores on NNAT/CogAt. No prep on NNAT, but for CogAT, got a sample CogAT and had DC looked at it once a couple of days before. Got lousy GBRS, but the scores were great all across the board. Got in first round. All three thriving in classes and happy. No help needed. I have strong doubts on GBRS.

Is anybody in AAP not thriving? Geez.

[Anonymous]

~40%, so 50:50.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Is anybody in AAP not thriving? Geez.

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/288964.page

Someone says a kid is crying everyday for homework, quiz, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I am happy for your success. Yes, there are rare cases like yours. That does not change the fact that early success and opportunity builds future success and continued opportunity. I am sure there are many who blew off their lives before 18 like you, who would have much better lives and success now had they not. In fact, I bet there are more in that category than in yours. Siting an "outlier" is only confusing the the real facts that govern the expected majority of outcomes.

In the US is is completely BS. If you go to scientific conference, you will discover a significant portion of the leading scientists (~40%) had some issues early in life, and blossomed late.

The human brain develops at a certain rate. I am confident that my early years of exploration rather than study have allowed for my excellence today. Had I been forced to study and prep, I would not have had the time to explore, and expand my curiosity.

I will be sure to instill in my child that study, work, and achievement before the age of 18 is a waste of time. I will encourage him to dream and explore (whatever the hell that means). Thanks for the solid advice. He will appreciate the upcoming decade of vacation time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I will yield to your sheepish afterthought.

We are all immigrants - remote (centuries ago) or recent (within the last 50 years). Some of us (entitled) are offshoots of immigrant criminals and assorted misfits who wiped out 10 tens of millions of native Indians (a holocaust) by cheating, theft, rape and plunder. Other immigrants were forced and bound in chains, arranged like orderly sardines in the dungeons of boats traveling the high seas. The mission of this immigrant chattel was to do the dirty work for the entitled.

Today, the entitled are losing their grip on AAP and the like largely to children of recent immigrants. This is staggeringly pronounced in education.

This predicament fuels this rage. The entitled have forgotten what hard work is all about. And they are reluctant to make the sacrifices immigrants are accostomed to making.

The issue with form, format, real test or actual test questions, pretend or fake test questions is a diversion. It does not matter, the entitled are losing the education battle and they will continue to lose that battle regardless of any ruse or cover provided by FCPS.

Only preparation and hard work will start to close the gap.

You are as racist in your generalizations as anyone you accuse.

I grew up on welfare. We lived on government surplus food and slept in our winter coats to keep the heating bill down. Attending college on a full scholarship, I graduated summa cum laude. You better believe my children are growing up knowing the value of hard work.

If you have the luxury of Internet service and time to post this garbage, you are far more entitled than my lily-white, non-recent-immigrant family was. So stop the name-calling.

[Anonymous]

For those who think less highly of FCPS, but can't afford private school, homeschooling can be a great choice. In Virginia you need only fill out a simple form describing your plans to let the school system know that you will be educating at home. Numerous free and very low cost resources are available to home educators. And in the DC metro area, the field trip opportunities are endless, with many organizations offering programs specifically for homeschoolers.

Education can be tailored to the strengths and needs of the child. Do you have a budding scientist with a love for exploration? You can provide the time and the places for that child to explore and learn. Do you have one who loves to read and write? Center a unit around a book or series of books. Possibilities abound for giving your children the education you want them to have.

Even if you think a great education involves studying test questions and answers over and over again, you have the freedom to do that. But no need to scam a test, you can just teach your children the way that you believe to be best.

Choices do exist in Fairfax County.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For those who think less highly of FCPS, but can't afford private school, homeschooling can be a great choice. In Virginia you need only fill out a simple form describing your plans to let the school system know that you will be educating at home. Numerous free and very low cost resources are available to home educators. And in the DC metro area, the field trip opportunities are endless, with many organizations offering programs specifically for homeschoolers.

Education can be tailored to the strengths and needs of the child. Do you have a budding scientist with a love for exploration? You can provide the time and the places for that child to explore and learn. Do you have one who loves to read and write? Center a unit around a book or series of books. Possibilities abound for giving your children the education you want them to have.

Even if you think a great education involves studying test questions and answers over and over again, you have the freedom to do that. But no need to scam a test, you can just teach your children the way that you believe to be best.

Choices do exist in Fairfax County.

Most people work during days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those who think less highly of FCPS, but can't afford private school, homeschooling can be a great choice. In Virginia you need only fill out a simple form describing your plans to let the school system know that you will be educating at home. Numerous free and very low cost resources are available to home educators. And in the DC metro area, the field trip opportunities are endless, with many organizations offering programs specifically for homeschoolers.

Education can be tailored to the strengths and needs of the child. Do you have a budding scientist with a love for exploration? You can provide the time and the places for that child to explore and learn. Do you have one who loves to read and write? Center a unit around a book or series of books. Possibilities abound for giving your children the education you want them to have.

Even if you think a great education involves studying test questions and answers over and over again, you have the freedom to do that. But no need to scam a test, you can just teach your children the way that you believe to be best.

Choices do exist in Fairfax County.

Most people work during days.

my kid prefers the social aspect of the school; would never cooperate with being homeschooled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those who think less highly of FCPS, but can't afford private school, homeschooling can be a great choice. In Virginia you need only fill out a simple form describing your plans to let the school system know that you will be educating at home. Numerous free and very low cost resources are available to home educators. And in the DC metro area, the field trip opportunities are endless, with many organizations offering programs specifically for homeschoolers.

Education can be tailored to the strengths and needs of the child. Do you have a budding scientist with a love for exploration? You can provide the time and the places for that child to explore and learn. Do you have one who loves to read and write? Center a unit around a book or series of books. Possibilities abound for giving your children the education you want them to have.

Even if you think a great education involves studying test questions and answers over and over again, you have the freedom to do that. But no need to scam a test, you can just teach your children the way that you believe to be best.

Choices do exist in Fairfax County.

Most people work during days.

my kid prefers the social aspect of the school; would never cooperate with being homeschooled.

But there are still choices, made according to people's preferences. A family that places a high value on education is free to choose to educate their own children at home over making more and more money. Educating children at home is work, albeit work for which there is no pay.

[Anonymous]

Prepping for the NNAT and CoGAT takes all of what a few hours at the very most? Heck, it would take less time than that just to begin to figure out home schooling and why would we want to do that anyway since we like the FCPS AAP program and think that it is great opportunity for our kids. For all I know my prepped kid might even be sitting next to yours. They might even be friends.