lax culture from an insider

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To the poster who suggested I should sack up. One of my concerns about the team is that my son ends up in a household like yours because of a team friendship. Thanks but I'll keep my distance and maybe you can work on your dignity. If you don't see the ugliness of your words then I can only imagine the values with which you raise your children.

I can't decide if "sack up" or "put on your big boy pants" is more annoying. Both have the winning misogynistic ring to them, of course. "Sack up" may win at the wire based on its reference to genitalia.

[Anonymous]

Well for what it is worth you wanna be parents-- going to a so called 'big 3' as you call it doesn't guarantee you admittance to any college much less an Ivy. Good luck as your children enter high school have to be straight A kids, play sports, be a leader and have a true fine arts. BTW-- if you are 100% white u won't be going to an IVY unless you have that makes u unique. -- maybe a sport. Being a white boy or girl isn't a good thing these days. Wait and see how well those schools help you when u are paying $100k per year. Maybe you will finally get your turn and being told to 'shut up' about things you and your non athletic kid know nothing about. Good nite.. You big 3 helicopter parents need to get a life

[Anonymous]

Are most of the boys who are recruited to play college lacrosse in the DC area really from private schools?

[Anonymous]

Not only do almost all come from private schools, almost all cone from a handful of schools. STA for example has had just one high school all American in its history. Landon won it's inference for 20 straight years. Then Prep became a power. Now Gonzaga is a power. SSSA is even more dominant in girls LAX

Public high schools didn't even have teams until recently, but everything is changing and the future won't be lie the past.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not only do almost all come from private schools, almost all cone from a handful of schools. STA for example has had just one high school all American in its history. Landon won it's inference for 20 straight years. Then Prep became a power. Now Gonzaga is a power. SSSA is even more dominant in girls LAX

Public high schools didn't even have teams until recently, but everything is changing and the future won't be lie the past.

If big public high schools go in for lacrosse in a big way and youth leagues continue to spread over the next decade(s), the balance will shift -- it's a bell curve/numbers thing. However, it's a tough climate for public schools so they may not be adding sports, and if the local high school doesn't have it even the youth league growth might be stunted.

For now, the recruiting from private schools is still good, and broader based than the above poster suggests. Even St. Alban's, at the bottom of the IAC for a few years, has three Division I commits in the senior class (including one Yale commit), and two more Ivy commits in the current junior class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not only do almost all come from private schools, almost all cone from a handful of schools. STA for example has had just one high school all American in its history. Landon won it's inference for 20 straight years. Then Prep became a power. Now Gonzaga is a power. SSSA is even more dominant in girls LAX

Public high schools didn't even have teams until recently, but everything is changing and the future won't be lie the past.

This post is almost as misguided as it is poorly written. Lacrosse is more about being seen by college coaches at summer and fall recruiting events, where you play either with your team or as an individual. Schools like Landon and Prep continue to have a lot of kids who commit to college lacrosse programs. Part of it is where they go to school, but a bigger reason is they have good players who are seen and consequently recruited by college coaches.

More and more public school kids are going D1, D2 and D3. The talent pool is bigger in Northern Virginia vis a vis Montgomery County, but the trend continues. You also see more and more kids being recruited from Florida, California, Texas, Colorado, etc.

So your post is woefully ignorant. Among privates, kids are committing to college lacrosse programs from a wide range of private schools in this area. Further, there are a ton of public school kids who have committed as well to college lacrosse programs.

Stick to writing about something you know.

[Anonymous]

The first PP is correct though on his facts, even if you don't like the way he writes. Public schools in the Washington area do not have as well developed or as talented lacrosse teams as the privates. Some only recently gained lacrosse programs. That is not true further north. New York and New Jersey have lots of power house public lacrosse schools. The Washington area does not, yet.

The other states you named, Florida, Texas, Colorado, are coming along but have no where as near developed lacrosse programs either, whether pubic or private. We were out in Vail last year for the big tournament and saw teams from all over. The best teams, with the best stick skills, are still coming from the mid Atlantic and Northeast and, more typically, from prep schools.

Many of the teams from Texas, Florida, Colorado and other States where the sport is still new, play a much rougher, more physical, football-style of lax. Or at least that was the constantly heard refrain in Vail from numerous coaches, players, refs and parents from all over the country. In addition, those same comments contained references to the more sophisticated play and higher level of stick skills of the teams from NE and Mid Atlantic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not only do almost all come from private schools, almost all cone from a handful of schools. STA for example has had just one high school all American in its history. Landon won it's inference for 20 straight years. Then Prep became a power. Now Gonzaga is a power. SSSA is even more dominant in girls LAX

Public high schools didn't even have teams until recently, but everything is changing and the future won't be lie the past.

This post is almost as misguided as it is poorly written. Lacrosse is more about being seen by college coaches at summer and fall recruiting events, where you play either with your team or as an individual. Schools like Landon and Prep continue to have a lot of kids who commit to college lacrosse programs. Part of it is where they go to school, but a bigger reason is they have good players who are seen and consequently recruited by college coaches.

More and more public school kids are going D1, D2 and D3. The talent pool is bigger in Northern Virginia vis a vis Montgomery County, but the trend continues. You also see more and more kids being recruited from Florida, California, Texas, Colorado, etc.

So your post is woefully ignorant. Among privates, kids are committing to college lacrosse programs from a wide range of private schools in this area. Further, there are a ton of public school kids who have committed as well to college lacrosse programs
Stick to writing about something you know.

You need to do a little more research. Very few if any public school's in MoCo have D1 recruits. Churchill has 1. Landon has 16. The one D1 recruit has everything to do with the club that player played for and almost nothing to do with the public team.

Yes maybe in a 5 -10 years more public schools will have D1 recruits as more players start playing on good club teams that attend the high profile recruiting events. That is where the recruiting is happening, not at the HS games.

[Anonymous]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/highschools/all-met/recruit-watch/boys/Lacrosse/index.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The first PP is correct though on his facts, even if you don't like the way he writes. Public schools in the Washington area do not have as well developed or as talented lacrosse teams as the privates. Some only recently gained lacrosse programs. That is not true further north. New York and New Jersey have lots of power house public lacrosse schools. The Washington area does not, yet.

The other states you named, Florida, Texas, Colorado, are coming along but have no where as near developed lacrosse programs either, whether pubic or private. We were out in Vail last year for the big tournament and saw teams from all over. The best teams, with the best stick skills, are still coming from the mid Atlantic and Northeast and, more typically, from prep schools.

Many of the teams from Texas, Florida, Colorado and other States where the sport is still new, play a much rougher, more physical, football-style of lax. Or at least that was the constantly heard refrain in Vail from numerous coaches, players, refs and parents from all over the country. In addition, those same comments contained references to the more sophisticated play and higher level of stick skills of the teams from NE and Mid Atlantic.

That is not what the poster said. He/she said, "Not only do almost all come from private schools, almost all cone [sic] from a handful of schools."

That is simply not true. There are a lot of college commitments coming from public schools kids (moreso from Northern VA than Montgomery County). That is a testament to the clubs they play for and/or their performances at certain events. Of course the HS has a part in it and there are a lot of advantages to playing for a private school. I never said the public school lacrosse programs in this area were as developed as the private ones. I merely responded to the quote above.

Nor did I say non-hot beds like Texas compare to Baltimore/Long Island, etc. You mentioned Vail, so obviously your son played for the Next Level U15 team that was out there. Vail is a great tournament to visit, but not a competitive one. Very few of the top teams from the Mid-Atlantic go there any more because of the cost and the level of competition out there is marginal. There was really no need for Next Level to bring Club Blue and some Madlax kids with them - they would have rolled the competition out there even with their normal summer team. That is not a top tournament anymore.

To recap, lacrosse is stronger in Baltimore/Long Island than out west. Lacrosse is better here than in the West. Many private school kids end up committing to college lacrosse programs. Increasingly, more public school kids in this area are being recruited and committing as well. Where you go to HS can be important, but so is the club you play for and where you are seen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not only do almost all come from private schools, almost all cone from a handful of schools. STA for example has had just one high school all American in its history. Landon won it's inference for 20 straight years. Then Prep became a power. Now Gonzaga is a power. SSSA is even more dominant in girls LAX

Public high schools didn't even have teams until recently, but everything is changing and the future won't be lie the past.

This post is almost as misguided as it is poorly written. Lacrosse is more about being seen by college coaches at summer and fall recruiting events, where you play either with your team or as an individual. Schools like Landon and Prep continue to have a lot of kids who commit to college lacrosse programs. Part of it is where they go to school, but a bigger reason is they have good players who are seen and consequently recruited by college coaches.

More and more public school kids are going D1, D2 and D3. The talent pool is bigger in Northern Virginia vis a vis Montgomery County, but the trend continues. You also see more and more kids being recruited from Florida, California, Texas, Colorado, etc.

So your post is woefully ignorant. Among privates, kids are committing to college lacrosse programs from a wide range of private schools in this area. Further, there are a ton of public school kids who have committed as well to college lacrosse programs
Stick to writing about something you know.

You need to do a little more research. Very few if any public school's in MoCo have D1 recruits. Churchill has 1. Landon has 16. The one D1 recruit has everything to do with the club that player played for and almost nothing to do with the public team.

Yes maybe in a 5 -10 years more public schools will have D1 recruits as more players start playing on good club teams that attend the high profile recruiting events. That is where the recruiting is happening, not at the HS games.

And you need lessons in reading comprehension. I never said a lot of Montgomery County schools have kids who have gone D1. I rebutted the PP's assertion that "almost all come from private schools, almost all cone [sic] from a handful of schools". You also make the point that I ALREADY MADE - that it is more about the club you play for than the school you attend.

I never said public schools in Montgomery County have tons of D1 recruits. I will note, however, that your post is myopic. There have been a number of kids over the past few years that have attended schools like Wootton, etc. that have gone D1. But as I already note, public school lacrosse in Montgomery County is nowhere near as big as private school lacrosse in this are (or public school lacrosse in NoVA).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not only do almost all come from private schools, almost all cone from a handful of schools. STA for example has had just one high school all American in its history. Landon won it's inference for 20 straight years. Then Prep became a power. Now Gonzaga is a power. SSSA is even more dominant in girls LAX

Public high schools didn't even have teams until recently, but everything is changing and the future won't be lie the past.

This post is almost as misguided as it is poorly written. Lacrosse is more about being seen by college coaches at summer and fall recruiting events, where you play either with your team or as an individual. Schools like Landon and Prep continue to have a lot of kids who commit to college lacrosse programs. Part of it is where they go to school, but a bigger reason is they have good players who are seen and consequently recruited by college coaches.

More and more public school kids are going D1, D2 and D3. The talent pool is bigger in Northern Virginia vis a vis Montgomery County, but the trend continues. You also see more and more kids being recruited from Florida, California, Texas, Colorado, etc.

So your post is woefully ignorant. Among privates, kids are committing to college lacrosse programs from a wide range of private schools in this area. Further, there are a ton of public school kids who have committed as well to college lacrosse programs
Stick to writing about something you know.

You need to do a little more research. Very few if any public school's in MoCo have D1 recruits. Churchill has 1. Landon has 16. The one D1 recruit has everything to do with the club that player played for and almost nothing to do with the public team.

Yes maybe in a 5 -10 years more public schools will have D1 recruits as more players start playing on good club teams that attend the high profile recruiting events. That is where the recruiting is happening, not at the HS games.

And you need lessons in reading comprehension. I never said a lot of Montgomery County schools have kids who have gone D1. I rebutted the PP's assertion that "almost all come from private schools, almost all cone [sic] from a handful of schools". You also make the point that I ALREADY MADE - that it is more about the club you play for than the school you attend.

I never said public schools in Montgomery County have tons of D1 recruits. I will note, however, that your post is myopic. There have been a number of kids over the past few years that have attended schools like Wootton, etc. that have gone D1. But as I already note, public school lacrosse in Montgomery County is nowhere near as big as private school lacrosse in this are (or public school lacrosse in NoVA).

Please, PP, do tell us which NOVA public schools are hotbeds of lax? And, while you are at it, which NOVA privates, besides SSSA are laX D1 recruiting hotbeds? I am unaware of any great VA lax teams beyond SSSA, and there its te girls rather than the boys, correct?

By the way, I am poster from above re Vail. My son did not play on the Next Level U15 team. There were other area teams out there. I think I now know who you are though. CM?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not only do almost all come from private schools, almost all cone from a handful of schools. STA for example has had just one high school all American in its history. Landon won it's inference for 20 straight years. Then Prep became a power. Now Gonzaga is a power. SSSA is even more dominant in girls LAX

Public high schools didn't even have teams until recently, but everything is changing and the future won't be lie the past.

This post is almost as misguided as it is poorly written. Lacrosse is more about being seen by college coaches at summer and fall recruiting events, where you play either with your team or as an individual. Schools like Landon and Prep continue to have a lot of kids who commit to college lacrosse programs. Part of it is where they go to school, but a bigger reason is they have good players who are seen and consequently recruited by college coaches.

More and more public school kids are going D1, D2 and D3. The talent pool is bigger in Northern Virginia vis a vis Montgomery County, but the trend continues. You also see more and more kids being recruited from Florida, California, Texas, Colorado, etc.

So your post is woefully ignorant. Among privates, kids are committing to college lacrosse programs from a wide range of private schools in this area. Further, there are a ton of public school kids who have committed as well to college lacrosse programs
Stick to writing about something you know.

You need to do a little more research. Very few if any public school's in MoCo have D1 recruits. Churchill has 1. Landon has 16. The one D1 recruit has everything to do with the club that player played for and almost nothing to do with the public team.

Yes maybe in a 5 -10 years more public schools will have D1 recruits as more players start playing on good club teams that attend the high profile recruiting events. That is where the recruiting is happening, not at the HS games.

And you need lessons in reading comprehension. I never said a lot of Montgomery County schools have kids who have gone D1. I rebutted the PP's assertion that "almost all come from private schools, almost all cone [sic] from a handful of schools". You also make the point that I ALREADY MADE - that it is more about the club you play for than the school you attend.

I never said public schools in Montgomery County have tons of D1 recruits. I will note, however, that your post is myopic. There have been a number of kids over the past few years that have attended schools like Wootton, etc. that have gone D1. But as I already note, public school lacrosse in Montgomery County is nowhere near as big as private school lacrosse in this are (or public school lacrosse in NoVA).

Please, PP, do tell us which NOVA public schools are hotbeds of lax? And, while you are at it, which NOVA privates, besides SSSA are laX D1 recruiting hotbeds? I am unaware of any great VA lax teams beyond SSSA, and there its te girls rather than the boys, correct?

By the way, I am poster from above re Vail. My son did not play on the Next Level U15 team. There were other area teams out there. I think I now know who you are though. CM?

Good Lord. Learn how to read. I never said public NOVA schools are "hotbeds" of lax. Some idiot said that nearly all the college lacrosse recruits in this area come from private schools, and among that group, most come from a "handful". That is not true. Got it? Hotbeds refer to an area (e.g. Long Island, Baltimore, etc.), not a set of schools. There are lots of public and private schools all over this region sending kids to college programs.

Your other statements show that you have know nothing about lacrosse in this area. PVI, for example, has 11 kids in their senior class who will be playing college lacrosse next year. They have two sophomore who will be playing at UNC and UVA. As far as St. Stephen's, they have five kids in their senior class playing college lacrosse next year, and two kids in their junior class will be going to UNC and Cornell.

No Northern Virginia team can rivals those numbers, but you have schools like Langley that have a defenseman going to Bucknell, and Stone Bridge has Maltz, who is as a good of a recruit as anyone in the country.

As for Vail, it is beautiful and a great family vacation, but a crappy tournament. I have no idea what CM refers to, so you have no idea who I am.

[Anonymous]

Aren't most kids recruited F or S year - so really the good ones may flock to certain private schools, but clearly they became good lacrosse players somewhere else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Aren't most kids recruited F or S year - so really the good ones may flock to certain private schools, but clearly they became good lacrosse players somewhere else.

Yes, no one becomes a great lax player through a school's program. They start through clinics or rec teams, younger and youger these days, and then usually look for a highschool with a strong team, coach, and record. Still, they have to play on a club/travel team to be really good enough to be recruited.