are all in-boundary applicants really in-boundary?

Anonymous
we are on the w/l for pK although in-boudary -actually quite at a distance- and cannot help but thinking about this....is anyone applying as in-boudary hoping to move in-boundary if they get selected? are all in-boundary applicants really in-boundary? I had heard rumours before that people claim to live somewhere although they don't but now it feels very real!
Anonymous
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Anonymous
I have wondered this given some of the advice given on this board previously on how to get a spot at certain schools. On the other hand, to register as in-boundary, they have to show proof of residency prior to May 15 so I guess it will be sorted out as best they can. (Though I will have lost a private school deposit by then.) At this point I can't worry about it -- it will just cause me greater angst and I will never really know the answer.
Anonymous
I thought pre-K was not mandated, so in-boundary folks could get waitlisted if there was no space, but for K and above, schools had to accept all in-boundary folks. Is that your understanding? I'd confirm that.
Anonymous
Rent in boundary = LIVE in boundary.

Find an apartment (or better yet, a sublet!) and get the documentation for the next couple of months. Once you're in the school, you can move OOB and yet stay in.
Anonymous
It is ILLEGAL for the schools to discriminate between property owners (neighborhood home-owners) and renters.

Absolutely, 100% illegal. Civil rights case worthy. No school wants to fight this fight (they will lose anyway and the publicity fallout will be horrendous).

Rent inbounds. There's NOTHING the school can do.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It is ILLEGAL for the schools to discriminate between property owners (neighborhood home-owners) and renters.

Absolutely, 100% illegal. Civil rights case worthy. No school wants to fight this fight (they will lose anyway and the publicity fallout will be horrendous).

Rent inbounds. There's NOTHING the school can do.


Well, unless they find out you don't really live there. Then they can throw your DC out of the school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Well, unless they find out you don't really live there. Then they can throw your DC out of the school.


Wrong.

If the documentation (i.e. your lease) says you live there? Then you live there. Manage your paperwork appropriately. This is NOT complicated. DC RENTERS do it all the time - no reason DC RESIDENTS shouldn't either.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote: DC RENTERS do it all the time - no reason DC RESIDENTS shouldn't either.



I don't understand -- what's the difference between "DC renters" and "DC residents"?
Anonymous
That doesn't make sense to me, either. Renters are residents by definition. Public schooling is not a benefit limited to property owners!

Anyway, I think bills or drivers' licenses need to presented in addition to a lease, though I could be wrong and certainly don't feel like looking it up now!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I thought pre-K was not mandated, so in-boundary folks could get waitlisted if there was no space, but for K and above, schools had to accept all in-boundary folks. Is that your understanding? I'd confirm that.


OP here: Correct, but I still don't understand the high number of those in-boundary yet short-listed when considering a rather small area, moreover when I compare with statistics from last year, why such a high (25% at least) increase in number of in-boundary kids ready for PK. I understand schools cannot discriminate against renters but what if you don't live in your renting property? or what if you rent/sub-lease and then leave? are schools really enforcing the rules?
Anonymous
I have been wondering if more families entered the lottery this year because it was simply so much easier to enter than in years past because it was online. That may be responsible for the uptick in applications for pre-K in a given school. We are waitlisted at Janney, there were 64 in bound applications for pre-K and 40 slots, I think this is a big increase. In the past, there has been one class of 20 and they did not give away all the slots in the initial lottery because they held back slots to kindergarten overflow, I suspect there were a lot of families without sibling priority that simply did not bother with the lottery because the odds were so against getting a slot and taking all the paperwork into the school for the lottery was a pain in the neck. With the new online system, it is easy to apply and you do not have to deal with the paperwork unless you actually get a slot.

I think renters or owners need to actually live in the property they are relying on for in boundary status for it to count, but I do not know (and could not find) the rules.

I have seen posters mention that once you are in a school you can move out of boundary, is that in a rule somewhere? Does the student convert to the same status as a student that entered the school via OOB lottery?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought pre-K was not mandated, so in-boundary folks could get waitlisted if there was no space, but for K and above, schools had to accept all in-boundary folks. Is that your understanding? I'd confirm that.


OP here: Correct, but I still don't understand the high number of those in-boundary yet short-listed when considering a rather small area, moreover when I compare with statistics from last year, why such a high (25% at least) increase in number of in-boundary kids ready for PK. I understand schools cannot discriminate against renters but what if you don't live in your renting property? or what if you rent/sub-lease and then leave? are schools really enforcing the rules?


I agree with the previous poster -- more applications because of easier, centralized process. Also, the economy; lots of private-school parents are hedging their bets. I know of a family who got a Lafayette spot for their youngest child, while the two older are in private. Honestly, for all the DCUM talk of people gaming the system by renting apartments they don't live in, I find it hard to believe that large numbers of people are doing this. I'm sure there are a few, but really, how many people have the time and resources to do this?
Anonymous
Here is the link to the rules: http://os.dc.gov/os/cwp/view,a,1207,q,639915.asp

Chapter 21 is the relevant chapter, sections 2105 and 2106 and you also have to read the amendments. It appears that if you enter because you are in-boundary you have to remain in boundary to have a right to continue attending.
Anonymous
I was just thinking the same thing. Deposit, first month and last month rent along the Conn. Ave corridor (Murch, Lafayette, Eaton) would be about $3000 up front, probably more. And this assumes that no other rent is paid and the lease is broken (and credit rating lowered).

A parent savvy and ambitious enough to try this is not likely to want to tank her credit report by breaking a lease ASAP, so she will continue to pay the ~$1800 a month, rent plus that $3000. So now you're into it for literally thousands of dollars, by which point you could've just paid for parochial school closer to home.

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